Glitch in the Matrix EditionPrevious Thread: >>8300546>LOCAL UIA1111: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webuiForge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge | Alternative version (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForgeComfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI>LOCAL MODELSPony: https://civitai.com/models/404802 | https://civitai.com/models/288584 | https://civitai.com/models/257749Illustrious: https://civitai.com/models/795765Noob: https://civitai.com/models/833294>PAIDNovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api>RESOURCESWiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples | https://openart.ai/workflows/templatesTraining: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerTags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tagControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070 | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-loraIOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://www.iopaint.com/installUpscalers: https://openmodeldb.infoBooru: https://aibooru.online4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcbPony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jfIllustrious-related: https://rentry.org/illustrious_loras_n_stuffUseful Nodes/Extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgnew/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif>Related>>>/aco/sdg>>>/g/sdg>>>/g/ldg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/u/udg>>>/vt/vtai>>>/vg/aids>>>/b/degen>>>/trash/sdg
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>>8304236kill yourself>>8304237based, keep it up
>>8304236Aren't three sets of highlights kind of overdoing it? We used to have one and then it went up to two and you had one for spooky monthly themed gens for October but now you just have three. It's almost half the thread at this rate which kind of diminishes how much of a highlight it is.If we have this many should we start voting for some type of ranking where one set is more of a highlight than the other set? Almost like S+ rank highlights vs A rank highlights or something?Thoughts?
>>8304242>Thoughts?umamusume futa horse cock where?
>>8304242The previous ones were three because it also included posts from the nuked threads, including the oines in this thread. Previous thread was on fire with good stuff all around but can keep it under two.
>>8304245u gay nigga
>>8304246kill yourself
>>8304242we've been telling the highlighter ever since the start that picking a quarter of the thread as highlights is excessive and devalues it but that hasn't seemed to make an impact. i think they're still compositing the images in paint (lol)
>>8304242>Thoughts?Remove shitlights altogether
>>8304246The reason I say is because Christmas is coming up so unless you want to increase it yet again to four sets to include potential holiday themed gens, it just starts to get out of hand.
>>8304236>literal pedo gen with ugly bastardBased?
>>8304236aw didn't make it this time
>>8304236kill yours->made it in 5 timeslive
>>8304251>holiday themed gensoh boy
>>8304252what's wrong with pedo gens?
>>8304256nothing, the issue lies with the ugly bastard
>>8304256Nothing. A little unexpected in highlights.
Single autist's shit taste is not considered "highlights". They are just their own shit opinion.If you want fair highlights you should have a voting system where each poster gets to vote on each image and the top 10 or 5 or whatever wins. Then it would be more or less fair and interesting.Otherwise it's not anything but attentionwhoring by a single retard
>>8304242The entire thing is dumb af, at least he doesn't post the images so I don't have to look at it, haven't opened one since.
>>8304260looks like you didn't make it in
>>8304262shit "u mad" argument. kys
>>8304258Lolis/hebes with fat bastards are peak though.
>>8304237>made it in 3 timesI'm on a roll baby. Based
>>8304260>If you want fair highlights you should have a voting system where each poster gets to vote on each imageWe already have that system though, it's called (You)'s. Those are 4chan's versions of upvotes
>>8304260so reddit?
>>8304264nah, generic muscular bald male is better
>>8304258lolis and ugly bastards are the perfect match tho?
Baking a new thread at bump limit. Thoughts?
>>8304270based
>>8304270we will fill the board in a few days and that also be a waste of potential image posts
>>8304149Sure, here's Yang that I was messing around with. Best part is since it's Pony you can use anime character loras, and even some styles.https://litter.catbox.moe/al1iz8.pngRaw gen with Zonkey, then middle is switched to bigLust at 20/30 steps, and the last one is low denoise adetailer with Zonkey again. I suck at natural language so there's probably better ways to do it.
>Thread up for 20 minutes>Only two imagesYou need 3 to start a thread, fucks.
>>8304281i think that man's arm is on backwards
>>8304237Hell yeah purple glasses Undertale fan-made game guyGlad to see my boy make it
pony status ??
>>8304289still the king anointed by the Lord himself
>>8304283Hes reaching over he's one-armed.
>>8304289futa horse cock
>>8304287Nice Cetusmix prompt
>>8304287god pony is so good
>>8304287how can anything else compete with pony
How do I fucking train a vpred LoRA with onetrainer? https://files.catbox.moe/sz2hhy.jsonI've been trying for a day straight and no matter what I do I keep getting mosaics or NaNs. I'm going fucking insane because training on non-vpred models was easy and gave great results with barely and work.
>>8304289jinshi is not a slut!!!
>>8304237kind of off topic, no? these must've been generated with fluffyrock or some other furry model. try checking out some of the models in the OP if you want anime stuff
post your shitmix of choice
>>8304304it's noob
>>8304289very nice close-upjinhsibox?
>>8304304you mean pony v6 or autismmix? yeah, those are pretty nice
>>8304305why you retards keep asking this? use whatever you want
pretty hot in here...
>>8304310/h/?
>>8304310The mix...please...I'm on my hands and knees
>>8304305https://civitai.com/models/14305?modelVersionId=16836
>>8304309because one gen takes me 1 minute and 30 seconds to do, so doing xy plots of multiple models isn't really a feasible thing for me to do
>>8304305its noob1.0
>>8304311if it's hot, it's /h/>>8304310box?
Can we get an actual assessment on the state of Anime local as of today? The best model so far is an unfinished bake followed by another unfinished bake that has a SaaS counterpart.
>>8304310budding
>>8304319a huge leap from naiv1 circa october 2022
>>8304312>>8304318https://files.catbox.moe/zqo4r3.pngyou niggers never post boxes when I ask for shit
>>8304319pretty decent. we might catch up to nai3 by 2028 at this rate!
>>8304305https://civitai.com/models/820208?modelVersionId=1033430
>>8304325i only post boxxed cunnies so those have meta by default
>>8304325Actually I upload all images with stealth png info but you probably just aren't a fan of my stuff. Thank you regardless.
Is it possible to change shape of boobas in NAI? Not just the size. Only ones i found is sagging breasts and perky breasts.
>>8304330prompt raita for good breast shape anon
>>8304325Never asked me for a box then feels bad man
>>8304330I just prompt sagging breasts and pointy breasts together for that delicious swoop
>>8304325if it was a gr*id, yeah I didn't
>>8304319realistically hitting the limits of SDXL the vpred copium is proving to be a complete pain and it would be better to unironically train on flux schnell or sd3.5.
>>8304325there is lots of shitposting with box requests, so that's why maybei'm asking about artists used for that reason usually (and to avoid spaghetti too)
i feel like we're due for a wife post
https://civitai.com/images/38683306>guy tries to show off how much better his shitmix is compared to base>all it does is show how much 0.5 mogs everything elseHow the FUCK did they fuck it up so much?
>>8304338don't, I think shitposters didn't clock you yet, just leave it be
>>8304339we've been through this for a few dozen times. get new material
>>8304340Catbox?
>>8304335We need to start upping requirements. People coping with their 12GB vram shit boxes need to be left in the dust.
>>8304339>guy tries to show off how much better his shitmix is compared to base>"I would classify it as a general sidegrade" on model pageanon, your reading comprehension?
What's wrong with euler ancestral?
>>8304349the fact that (you) are using it
>>8304345i wouldnt mind this if gen times remained relatively stable. 12+ seconds for 1024x on a 4090 that still looks worse than fucking dalle is a bit much. wish there was a good 4b param model.
>>8304349It's good for inpaint
>>8304349it's blurry and lacks detailsotherwise it's great
>>8304349nothing? its generally agreed to be the best sampler and it's not even close
>>8304346regardless, everything is somehow worse than 0.5
>>8304347she pulled out the biggest magic wand for this shit
>>8304357Eh, if we disregard colors I like the 075 images in that comparison the most. Has the most interesting compositions and poses.t. it's my model
euler a automatic my beloved
>>8304335what make you think sd3.5 wont have the same issue?
>>8304339stop with this shit already, just pick your favorite shitmix or whatever while we wait for a good vpred version.
>>8304356>best samplerdoubt
>>8304365its true because i use it
>>8304347wait sex toys work now?
>>8304368hot egg
>>8304368fattymake a belly grab version
>>8304368>no belly grab
wan-wanhttps://files.catbox.moe/o793tb.png
>>8304236kill yourself
>>8304374i hate animal hands, they look stupid
>>8304377that's the point
>>8304377you look stupid
>>8304377silly looking girls are hot
i just upgraded to an oled monitori'm ready for vpred
>>8304378i am aware
>>8304374breasts look weird
>>8304364>Wait for vpredSo wait for SD35/flux
>>8304374didn't knew that negging nipples will make cute puffies without fucking tire valvesmodel bias toward thick nipples is really annoying
>>8304344I'm just testing different artists on the vpred 5k steps of noob, might not be reliable.https://files.catbox.moe/ofu2nj.png
loli ban on /h/ and /trash/ absolutely fucking nonsensicalif it was a legal liability it would be banned on /b/ as well, but it's clearly not, they even post borderline 3dpd shit there and it's not banned unless it's like photorealistici just don't get it. anime and hentai is very obviously a loli-heavy medium and there have always been loli posters on /h/. this rule does nothing but annoy people, cause trolling, force jannies to do useless work and make anons avoid this bullshit by using catboxes. it's not like coca-cola is going to put their ads on 4chan porn boards either way,and there's a lot of unreported loli shit that stays.it's so fucking retarded and it's never going to change
>>8304374nice
>>8304393it's shit and should stay on the shittiest board only
>>8304395how is it shit?
>>8304393>legal liability it's about advertisers
>>8304372>>8304371I can't believe I let you guys down like that
>>8304398nice, perfect
>>8304395>on the shittiest board onlyso you agree?
>>8304401well it's already on /b/ so yeah, it should stay there
>>8304395shut the fuck up NIGGER
>>8304393fuck off to /b/ pedo
>>8304404she would NEVER say bad words delete this
>>8304393I think the loli ban is initially for borderline toddler shit, and that's the stuff that most people seriously don't want to see.It's the lack of clear definitions that makes it very annoying. Flat teen character, clearly not loli? Still a subject for a ban because janny felt like it. Hebe with a young face? Sorry buddy, 3 day for ya. Lately it calmed down kinda, but there was a period when it felt like you literally could only post fat miqo'te, the bans very absolutely crazy. The rule is too vague and gives a lot of wiggle room for malicious moderation.
>>8304406it's not a bad word when used correctly
uppity status?
I'm so glad I can finally just get all the porn I could ever want of any character without having to commission someone or hoping some fag on the internet hits my exact taste.
>>8304405>>>/trash/sdg
Pedos will NEVER be welcome. Keep posting your cuckboxes, never have opened one anyway
>>8304397I wonder who are the serious advertisers on /trash/ who'd care about loli but not about diaper scat dogs.
>>8304412>of any characteri've got bad news buddy
>>8304418he's not on pony
>>8304413>>>/b/
>>8304418https://civitai.com/images/38683306>guy tries to show off how much better his shitmix is compared to base>all it does is show how much 0.5 mogs everything elseHow the FUCK did they fuck it up so much?
>>8304420>>8304415>>8304410>>8304405>>8304403>>8304395oh look, cattroon is back
>>8304419irrelevant, new slut comes out every day
>>83044221.0 is objectively superior with 0.5's TE, and this is a unet-only model anyways
>>8304407>for borderline toddler shitand large part of boxxed shit is like that herenot some flat Kuro or Shinobu, but oppossum, healthyman or blueborsht shit>>8304416i've seen ads here while phoneposting, it's shitcoin scam, sexy "hentai" games and deepfake nudes sites
>>8304424training a character lora takes like 15 minutes, 20 at worst
>>8304418It's pretty much true tho, if you really REALLY want to make porn of a character, all you need is ~4-10 images of her. It's not gonna be great but it's infinitely better than getting nothing at all for years.
>>8304429then why is the guy making the cat girl from xenoblade lora still at it after 4 month?
>>8304423>1 (You)whatever helps you sleep at night
>>8304426i'm mad about the chinks fumbling their compute and making a failbake worse than pony
>>8304432>whatever helps you sleep at nightknowing that you dilate at the mention of loli
>>8304430padoruu?
>>8304433No. Lax said that they never planned so. It's on discord.
>>8304430yeah with some effort I guess every girl is available but I wasnt taking lora into account
>>8304423rent free status?
It really does feel like NAI in a way. So many styles to play with but their strengths are all over the place, and I can't predict how they're going to mix either. So I'm just flailing around trying random stuff.
>>8304428>i've seen ads here while phoneposting, it's shitcoin scam, sexy "hentai" games and deepfake nudes sitesI am pretty sure those scammers also advertise on /b/ with no issues. It's mostly the case of some extremely outdated rule that moderation doesn't care enough to change, so it's just laid upon jannies to deal with. "Racism outside of /b/" is an even more hilarious rule that is mostly used to troll and get people you dislike banned. It's not like it actually stops racism on 4chan though, lmao.
>>8304441>when they can get the same quality for free on locali fucking wish man. all i want is to train loras on an actually good anime model
>>8304426Is it really? How can I ditch the atrocity that is 1.0 TE?
>>8304441the fact that there are literally zero NAI gens here anymore shows that local really did win
>>8304436No, I didn't even know they existed lol.>>8304438Exactly, it's incredibly liberating. I no longer go "I wish there was porn of her" and just make the porn myself.
>>8304445Just use style transfer on the NovelAI platform, it's vastly superior to outdated local loras
>>8304427amazing
I was hoping some tard would wrestle with the weights and figure something out with 1.0 after the initial shit posting. I gave up after a day of fucking around with it.
>>8304412soi fon is very rapeable
>>8304448there was my nai gen in previous thread but i think its the only one kek
EasyNegative for noob works incredibly wellhttps://civitai.com/models/923983/noobaixleasynegative?modelVersionId=1034251
THIS JUST IN: A CONFIRMED TO BE ANGEL SCHIZO ANON WAS RIGHT WTFF CHECK THE COORD
>>8304455lol
>>8304456catbox the screenshot faggot
>>8304456What the hell, I thought this was a troll. I can't believe he messed up like that, hilarious.
>>8304455>just remove all the contrast from every image bro
>>8303892catteboxe?
>>8304456WOW thats actually insane he got outted out like that
are you guys pretending to be retarded or whatif i'm going to listen to an incoherent braindead schizo theory it'd at least prefer it to be about something more interesting than trooncord personalities
>>8304456qrd?
OMFG WHO IS THIS NEW USER "C"??? IM THINKING ITS CURUMUZ
>>8304456i post this tomorrow ok?
>>8304457>>8304458>>8304459>>8304460>>8304461>>8304462>>8304464>>8304465samekek status?
>>8304455isnt negative embedding just the equivalent of writing the negatives anyways?
>>8304455another snakeoil, just make it stop please
>>8304470yes
>>8304456NTA but what theory? Someone @',d angel and a replied as if it was him (talking in angels unique brand of gookesl). Sort of funny. I guess it makes sense he'd need an alias to talk on other projects unfiltered since he probably has a non compete and NDA contract or whatever
>>8304469you got me
>>8304470ok technically no because it takes up less token count but yes
>>8304449box?
all me btw
>>8304473The implications this would have are way too far fetched to be plausible. It would mean that Angel has been part of HDG for a while, and that Angel has been experimenting with flow matching and minor finetunes on civitai and on 4chan. Not to mention that Angel very clearly likes cunny and vtubers, whereas a never showed any indication of this.
>>8304472Thats what I thought>>8304475Yeah but who cares about token count, I would rather type things and have more control over them
>>8304478not him but didn't angel join noobcoord directly after b- posted the link here?and a said to EPIC his favorite artist was some generic booru guy who I'm 98% sure draws at the very least, funny adjacent prepubescent hebes.I hate that I'm defending this
>>8304426Why hasn't anyone made a shitmix that's simply this?
this <insert shitmix> is the best shitmix for noob
>>8304481Not sure about the timing at which b- linked the cord invite, but going by how Angel said nothing in the arti code and was working on converting illustrious to v-pred, I think the idea that Angel was looking for code to reference for that conversion is pretty plausible. If a and Angel were one in the same, then Angel would've had that code without having needed to join Eugecord.Also artists and what they draw isn't much evidence either, especially when it's just a sample size of 1
>>8304481>I hate that I'm defending thisthen why are you posting about it every thread you dumb nigger
Hey schizos are back, missed ya guys
I still use illu
when's the new hll version coming?
>>8304481>prepubescent hebesactually hebes are early pubescence
2026 local leaks:>I think I fixed the reverse debiased snr z-pred x0 loss encoding, sending euge the fix right away! this time it will work for sure
>>8304485Original schizo theory was that, that was intentional to cover tracks because a had been worshipping angel as God's gift to the earth who everyone should listen to too much. Or something, I'm not reading back. I don't even care, why do I know all this useless crap
can you guys just shut the fuck up?
>>8304481>funny adjacent prepubescent hebes.>kantokuretard
>>8304493and even in that case all a said about angel was that if they were going to finetune illustrious then they should at least fucking read the paper angel wrote about it, which should be obvious to anybody
>>8304494why is it so status
>>8304496He's gone on like 3 sperg outs about how smart Angel is or some shit now across the two servers. I don't really buy the 'theory' but a is an insufferable Angel assucker. I need to stop reading so much of this gay stuff holy shit
hey what's on the TV?
no one will know the actual reason angel joined except me which is hilarious as it's all going according to plan.
>>8304476https://files.catbox.moe/qbmp29.png
>>8304498you made me waste 30 seconds of my time looking up a's posts about angel on both servers and all he said was what i just wrote so fuck you for that
Deja vu?
>>8304502I've been unironically reading both discords since the start, every message (I hate myself). He has gone off multiple times now spazzing about it, beyond what you said. Likely he didn't directly use the name "angel" when referring to him hence why you don't see it. I really do not care enough about this to do anything but correct basic information, but I swear it's there and happened. I've actually come to find him one of the more annoying characters because he's so whiny and cocksucky like that
>(a)ngel is in the room with us right now trying to convince everyone this is just schizo nonsense suss you're so quick to try to refute it vs ignore, I'm converting to team SCHIZO!
>>8304429guide for complete retards?
>>8304473what? a is clearly a native english speaker and uses much more colloquial english than angel does. take your meds, holy shit.
>>8304431because it has tiny details that a 4ch vae simply cannot handle
>>8304511A is definitely ESL. Not even saying I agree with this schizo shit but there is no way in hell that guy's first language is English. I'd at best consider he uses a translator, he misunderstands and misreplies to a lot of things, as well as some phrase mix ups that are very clearly ESL
LAX is uploading the first viable v-prediction epochs of 1.0 to HF right now btw.Will be up here shortly: https://huggingface.co/Laxhar/noob_sdxl_v_pred/tree/main
>>8304517>shortly>right now>>checks what was said>todayok
>>8304483that's not what a shitmix is. the shitposters here have really completely fucked with new people's understanding of the terminology
>>8304519it's an anon that goes to old threads and copies posts verbatim, just report and ignore
>>8304509>get 30-120 pics various pics of chara >quality > variety > quantity >yoink someone's .toml or json and use kohya or ez-scripts>wait x amount of timeIt's just that shrimple
>>8304519...he posted a screenshot of the model files being uploaded, which is a hell of a lot more reliable than anything he actually says since it's all passed through MTL.
>>8304523>no 'shot
>>8304483You can just do it on the fly with Comfy
>Watching b -chama's heart break in real time Mfw thinking about you hurtin'.
Jordach is uploading the first viable cascade partial epochs to spectrometer right now btw.Will be up here shortly: https://cdn.spectrometer.art/unfinished/
>>8304517>Viable v-prediction>On a fucked model Ok
is the whole selling point of this vpred thing the ability to make images dark? why do people want that?isnt it better to see whats going on in your image, if its all black and shit then you cant see all the details. am i missing something here??
>>8304521that's actual mental illness
Thinking about EasyFluff is making me wonder if Vpred just works better for merge fodder
>>8304530so true!
>>8304530what happened is people spammed black backgrounds as an example of something traditional eps couldn't do right. localkeks misinterpreted this as 'vpred is like a normal model but with darker colors!' and now we have noob vpred which throws in random dark backgrounds regardless of context
>>8304533yeah? merge with what exactly?
>>8304236kill yourself nigger
>>8304530but how else am I supposed to gen the blackest vantablack niggas for my interracial gens??
>>8304535meds
>>8304536EasyFluff was pretty incestuous, it was basically 99% fluffyrock merged into itself until it became stable. The only issue was it became piss colored but HLL 7-9 somehow removed that issue.
>>8304530Dude what the fuck you can't just reuse my bait without crediting me
>>8304540>it became piss colored it's e621
>>8304431because he's retarded or wants granular control over details the dataset doesn't permit
>>8304542Fluffyrock wasn't as piss colored as EasyFluff
uhhh sirs does this mean they didnt use ztsnr
>>8304533Am I having deja vu or did you post this yesterday?
>>8304547it's all one schizo reposting things from yesterday and everyone is fucking getting baited
>>8304546>I didn't enable the ztsnr checkbox because it seems that reforge has issues with this feature. I enable it during training. From LAXcord
>>8304530Local just wants to copy NAI but, well, you can see that local can't do that even with NAI's help
>>8304542it was definitely a merge fuckup, base was barely yellow (which is a known issue of SD models' color space including ztsnr), easyfluff fucked it up especially v10 though v11 used a better recipe that mostly unfucked it
inbound sudoku related post
adetailer and img2img are frying my gens with the vpred model on reforge, any ideas? they're all using the same model, same cfg, same samplers and everything
Honestly, we should give Jordach some credit for what he accomplished. Cascade's knowledge-per-epoch ratio is actually way higher than noob's despite being trained on less scammy hardware. It's really quite amazing what I was able to accomplish with only a few 4060s and I hope he continues to prove that size isn't everything.
qrd on copypaste schizo? do you think it's a bot or is it some third worlder doing it by hand?
>>8304553Same here with edetailer, hires fix seems to work fine on the other hand. Img2img I haven't tried though. My guess is that advanced model sampling and znsr aren't enabled on adetailer by default for some reason (using reforge dev)
>>8304549>ForgecucksAnother victory for Comfy
There's something funny about Euge and the rest of the team failing to train vpred and refusing help with it from only people who succeed while also giving compute to a random chinese dude to train controlnets.
>>8304557Shotgun approach to (you) farming, seems to be extremely succesful
>>8304550>local can't do that even with NAI's helpwhat about the nyalia lora?
>>8304561>a random chinese dudeDo you mean bdsqlsz? Are you retarded? Why do some of you even attempt to have an opinion when you know so little
There's something funny about Lodestone and the rest of the team failing to train flux and refusing help with it from only guys who knows how to fucking bake while also giving compute to drhead to train a safety filter
>>8304561So uh... EPs pred is unfinished and te is out of synch, GPUs are dwindling rapidly, vpred is being half assed over top of the fucked up 1.0 model, and they're training a CN that won't even work with the vpred model?Someone is absolutely taking this project hostage on the inside and forcing bad choices/rushed releases wtf
can someone point me to an up to date lora guide? everything ive been finding online is either for flux, or over a year old
>>8304567>Someone is absolutely taking this project hostage on the inside and forcing bad choices/rushed releases wtfanon, those people were always this way
>>8304561the thing that irks me the most is that they should have done the vpred conversion at the beginning and they have overkill hardware that would have let them run 4 concurrent a/b tests to suss out the correct settings. i think controlnet will also have issues with the vpred model if they train it on eps.
>>8304566kek
So uh... Cascade1b is unfinished and te is out of synch, funds are dwindling rapidly, 3.6b is being half assed over top of the fucked up 1b model, and they're training a resonance base model that won't even work with the 3.6b model?
Why didn't NAI train controlnets after all this time btw? Is it due to controlnets' licensing or something?Like there is an explanation why they can't add loras; they trained this director tools so it's not like they are not doing anything. What could be the issue with canny/openpose controlnets for them?
>it's actually working Schizos I kneel
>>8304574bro stop... don't do that
Angel sent a decree in the Eugecord, is local saved?
>>8304565>bdsqlszshouldve given the compute to someone useful like 2vXpSwA7
>>8304521/h always innovating new way to be a schizo
>>8304576No? He literally said that he also can't train vpred model. Either they start training cosxl or contact public enemy of hdg to help them. But they will most likely just give up.
angel just posted his bussy in the eugecord. he's actually kinda cute, bros... am I gay?
i hope this retarded general gets nuked off this fucking board for good
Why didn't Jordach train 3.6b after all this time btw? Is it due to 3.6b param count or something?Like there is an explanation why they can't train Flux; they trained this 1b so it's not like they are not doing anything. What could be the issue with 3.6b for them?
>>8304547indians are just getting home from work please understand
>>8304583why is it so angry
>>8304583so true sister
>>8304581>public enemy of hdg to help themWho would that be?Kurumuz would show them the finger obviously and Astrashart didn't train vpred so why would they even consider xhem
>>8304588anonie you're responding to a copypasted post from yesterday...
>>8304583this, but ironically--i miss the old days
>>8304583You can close the the thread on your own you dummy dumb dumb
Civitai users are the most retarded kind of human i've ever seen
>>8304581I told euge who to ask for v-pred help already. Can't help it if he'd rather listen to discordtroons
>>8304584>Is it due to 3.6b param count or something?For some reason, they still use batch_size=8 on their H100 cluster. As it is used by other teams, probably.
>public hero of hdg to help themWho would that be?Jordach is too busy working on the greatest bake of all time and... nope there's nobody else, he's the only one deserving of such an honored title
>>8304592lmao there's no fucking way this isn't some guy trolling right?
>>8304592what the fuck is gigabyte even saying
reading this vpred stuff, it kind of sounds like a mess. why didnt they just start with cosxl or something instead? didnt nai even say how much of a pain in the ass trying to wrangle XL was? now euge's already telling people to shitmix vpred back into 1.0.why the fuck are they even trying this 'conversion' shit anyway? does it even make sense? yeah hold up as i 'convert' my 30 epoch model into an entirely different method as if that won't just cause the model to fuck itself in such a way that nobody can tell what's wrong. now they're all grasping at air as 1.0 itself wasn't any good and vpred is just broken with no way to tell if it will ever fix itself as the settings they were using since the start were already shit to begin with. "give it time to sort itself out" as if continuing training 1.0 EPS wouldn't just continue to fuck it up more. they're taking already shit settings and compounding them with the uncharted area of vpred.with their compute there is zero reason to use undertrained illust 0.1 as a base instead of training from xl/cosxl. all they are doing is introducing even more unknowns where it's no longer possible to determine where the fuckup occured.
>>8304592almost as if there's more than one person on Civita
>>8304557i wouldn't be surprised if ia faggot is schizo enough to start spamming like this
>>8304600>t. civitai tourist lurking herego back
copypasteschizoGOD
>>8304599>does it even make sense?that was the point of the successful test model, yes
>>8304589The post you replied to is also a repost kek
>>8304557In most cases, it's a very sad mental faggot doing it manually.
>>8304605test model? They never planned on baking their own model anon
reading this cascade stuff, it kind of sounds like a mess. why didnt they just start with 3.6 instead? didnt the cascade team even say how much of a pain in the ass trying to wrangle 1b was? now jordach's already telling people to inpaint and train a lora.why the fuck are they even trying this 1b shit anyway? does it even make sense? yeah hold up as i train a model worse than 1.5 as if that won't just cause the model to fuck itself in such a way that nobody can tell what's wrong. now they're all grasping at air as 1b proto itself wasn't any good and the 47th epoch is just broken with no way to tell if it will ever fix itself as the settings they were using since the start were already shit to begin with. "give it time to lock in" as if continuing training partial epochs wouldn't just continue to fuck it up more. they're taking already shit settings and compounding them with the uncharted area of 3.6bwith their compute there is zero reason to fucking train anything at all. all they are doing is wasting time as the entire thing is the worst fuckup that has ever occurred
>>8304599>>8304610genuinely end yourself
>my bait got picked for the highlight spammerholy shit bros i made it
reposting sisters we are so back
>>8304501Holy shit man you think you can fit a few more artists in there?
>>8304611why is it so angry?
>>8304616why does it think i'm angry?
Why are the 1.0 vpred models not on Civit? Are they heavy WIP or something?
>306/31Gennies we're getting mogged...
>>8304621sir go repost your downloaded catboxes and maybe you'll make it in the highlights
Is IT a good movie?
>>8304620There's no 1.0 vpred
Why is angel so fucking stupid? Using noise offset with vpred and no ztsnr. The whole point is to use ztsnr. Local really is doomed, I'm going to kill myself and call it.
>>8304625>Using noise offset with vpred and no ztsnr.please cite your source for this. and if you won't, then please follow what you said> I'm going to kill myself and call it.
>>8304625I think it's hilarious he's finally chiming in on vpred training after seething, shitting and pissing himself and posting racist remarks against the chinese. Saas vulture and a troon, Angel is a clown
>>8304625>literal angel descended from the heavens to assist local>GRR ITS STUPID I HATE LOCALwhy is it so pessimistic?
>>8304625It's all just overblown expectations. We hit diminishing returns with SDXL months ago, better color balance won't make the model significantly better than what you could already achieve with Vectorscope. Retraining on different datasets won't do much other than change the baked-in style bias. Even a NAIv3 leak wouldn't be massive at this point. We need a paradigm shift, either a new UNET arch, new TE or a more efficient way to finetune Flux.
>>8304628>Angel is a clown this desu >>8304630I'm pretty sure people aren't expecting miracles, were comparing to Nai which uses -- this will shock you - SDXL!
>shitposters make completely bogus claims>retards engage with themit's all so tiresome
>>8304630Vpred ztsnr isn't just about better color balance.
>>8304615You getting smart with me, smartass?
>>8304632Not even shitposting, but repost shitposting
in a lora training set do i want pictures of the back of the characters head?
>>830462190% of my gens are Sakura's cunny getting wreckedcant exactly post it here
>>8304630nah vpred is pretty big for gen quality. I don't get what the fuck are the issues now though? The vpred test model euge made few weeks ago was pretty good for what it is (proof of concept). what's different with vpred now?
>>8304622I got too much shit to bother with reposts.
>>8304325lucky you, i never get asked for boxes of my gens...
>>8304635the history of this board from the start to now is quite an interesting case study of poe's law in action
>>8304638>what's different with vpred now?I don't get this either, it seems like they're forcing him to use some suboptimal set up. he implied he trained with frozen out layers on his test but can't do that with the Nai tuner the noob team is using?There's literally no hope if they can't fix this because they ruined their eps model training the TE
>>8304630NAI3 is the best current SDXL model.So no, we actually do need that leak
>>8304634How can you tell what each artist even does when you have like around 20 of them in the mix?
>>8304637catbox for this though? nice style>>8304645you add one artist. then you add another. rinse and repeat
can someone go on IRC and tell the mods about the schizo please
retvrn to sd 1.5>IT... YOU CAN'T...!lora. next.
>>8304643NAI3 fails to do even half of the artist tags that Illustrious or Noob can do
>>8304643Sorry, frozen IN layers*
>>8304647seconded
why don't they ask lodestone for help considering he did his vpred+ztsnr conversion of 1.5 like 100 epochs in lmao. are they just unaware?
>>8304647*bans and kicks you from the channel*nothing personell, kid
>>8304427box? i like the nipples
>>8304652Every time they've asked lodestone for help lodestone goes off on some retarded tangent about whatever irrelevant project he's now or once worked on, he's useless. I'm not even sure why he's in that discord because it seems like he just wants to blog, not offer any meaningful information or advice.
how do you balance small datasets? more repeats or more epochs? or just run standard 16epoch/2k iters?
>>8304646https://files.catbox.moe/w1p7fh.pngbretty sure its 1=2 that gives this look
>>8304658I feed Claude or Chatgpt my settings and tell it what the dataset size is then ask it what it thinks. It usually turns out good.
>>8304647you understand the reason he does this is specifically because the trannitors stopped giving a shit, right?
>saw my own post form like 4 threads agokek
>>8304661But what's the general advice here? Do more steps? Or just pad the data with repeats to standard ~500 images per epoch and run old settings?
>>8304665ask claude
>>8304665There is very little difference between more repeats and more steps. And at batch size 1 there is in fact no difference at all.
Kyon-kun, denwa!
i never stopped using illustriouswhich kind of sucks because i'm having a much more difficult time getting good results out of it than pony wrt character training. not really sure why
>>8304637Why does she sit like that?
>>8304669the thread is savedsasuga, aco-senpai
Give me a good shit mix to use.>just use...-ACK!No, I said GOOD shit mix.
>>8304670have you looked at the version number?
if i want to train a Noob 0.5 Lora should i train it on illustrious or just noob?
>>8304680noob is a finetune. train it on noob. but an illus lora still works fine with noob
>>8304671why dont (you) sit like that, anon?
>>8304660>Steps: 1, Sampler: Euler, Schedule type: Normal, CFG scale: 1, Seed: 3831784921, Size: 128x128wtf?
>>8304685Sir...
>>8304685inpaint to destroy metadata
>>8304655https://files.catbox.moe/2fezhx.png
>>8304687yeah i'm just wondering why lol
>>8304690You will never sell my prompts.
>>8304685adetailer with skip img2img setting
>>8304249Love your stuff man, do you have a pixiv or a twitter handle?
>>8304699no, i don't use pixiv because censoring my stuff feels wrong and twitter causes brainrot even worse than staying on 4chan all day so i dont do that eitherthanks though
information wants to be free, like boobs
>>8304702true
What?
>>8304701>censoring my stuff feels wrongdon't understand why so many people here are bothered by this, like didn't you consume jap porn before aislopping? would be better if it wasn't censored but its whatever
noob slowly losing compute only makes them stronger. keep in mind the best models were trained on 4060s. limitation fosters creativity
>>8304660jitome has a pretty big impact on the style believe it or not lol
>>8304706principles
should i use regularisation data in my lora training or?
>>8304708lockin in
>>8304709Why is it so......lifeless?
>>8304713its latent space
>>8304383>ireadingBased>>8304430>armpit lickingBased
>>8304713because its pony
>>8304713it's ai
>>8304711no unless you are trying to train a lora that you don't want to always be active when it's used in the prompt. otherwise also no because DOP is better and less computationally expensive
I did it
Pony euphoria and active posting lasted for at least 2-3 months. With noob/illu it feels like it was like... 2 weeks at best. What went wrong?
>>8304720DOP? sorry new to training lora's
>>8304689Nice, thank you
New thread>>8304721>>8304721>>8304721
>>8304735Illustrious ruined everything.Pony haters took the first and only chance to utterly shit on pony and it was a nothingburger in the end.
>>8304736https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/pull/1710
>>8304740ty!
>it's ponyslopper>again
/h/?
pony status?
What is this insane meltdown I'm seeing? 50 copy-pasted posts from several threads ago, new thread, and now the fried image spam.I don't get it.
>>8304749FINALLY SO GOOD FUCKING FOOD
>>8304756owning the hentai chuds
>>8304756it's illustrious
>>8304749innovative
>>8304756>fried image spam.Unironically where?
>>8304756with the kemono importer down there's no more access to new blacked patreon sets so the spammer has moved to text only... sad...
>>8304756>insane meltdownNot even close, it's just one retard manually copy-pasting shit. Wait for it to learn how to code and run a multi-threaded spammer.
can someone post lora training guides for noob im too stupid to figure it out
>h is getting spammed and swarmed by schizos>slop dead>'cord deadaisisters...
>>8304310phew...https://files.catbox.moe/gjic1i.png
>>8304768shouldn't we train on illu instead?
>>8304772no, especially not with newer version of noob
>>8304772i have no idea and do not honestly know the difference
>>8304649because their dataset is older and probably smaller by a huge margin, nai3 is a really old model in the world of ai
toe hoes?
>>8304772if you're using a version of noob you should be training on the version you're using(and you should be using 0.5).if you're using illustrious you train on illustrious.noob is a finetune, not a shitmix. It's going to work better with a lora trained on it than one trained on illustrious.
can someone explain what a toml is and how i apply it to lora training?
>>8304777What if the shitmix I'm using is a shtimix of Illu and noob?
>>8304660How is 1=2 an actual artist name, japan is actually fucking retarded
can someone point me to a good LORA rentry or a basic guide?
>>8304778Tom's Obvious, Minimal Languageconfig file format used by derrian's lora training gui. you save/load training settings into them
>>8304780So true bbc-chan
>>8304776sorry, all the reddit trannies have hung themselvesso, no more touhou here
>>8304766so thats why it wasnt updatingman patreon grifter must be farming during that time
I was away. Is 1.0 better than 0.75, a continued step down, or too early to tell still?
>>83047861.0 itself is kind of a mess, 1.0 shitmixes are solid
>>8304786is betterTE was destabilized someyou can just load in 0.5's text encoderthey hope that further training on vpred conversion will let the unet catch back up
>>8304787based
>>8304786you asked this yesterday
flux... is... forgotten
>>8304793pony v7 will save flux
>>8304790how can you load a different text encoder in reforge (if you can)?
>>8304756schizo mad that people didn't want to take the knot and don't care about v7
Illust is temporaryPony is eternal
>>8304738when we will start recursively making new threads just to make sure the new thread is the first post.
>>8304790so that's how vpred dies
I'm new to this, what do I need to get images like this that look like anime screenshots? I have Pony Diffusion and ComfyUI.
>>8304802>I have Pony Diffusion and ComfyUI.Bait used to be believable
>I have Pony Diffusion and ComfyUI.too obvious
>some retarded fag is copy/pasting text posts and spamming the thread for some reasonfucking weirdhave a mutsuki in these trying timeshttps://files.catbox.moe/rck7ew.pngalso some nonredrawn raw upscales I'm not going to do anything with since they were mostly for testing purposes.https://files.catbox.moe/h9r5ox.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/fy38cd.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/127at1.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/vtsukx.png
i want to say, NAI is great, but ive spent so much time using it that now switching to local i feel like a complete noob, an unseen consequence of using paid services
>>8304803>>8304804Not bait, I saw someone mention that what I posted was made with Pony Diffusion and ComfyUI is what I've been recommended.
>>8304805>aged down kurisubased
>>8304802switch with autismmix next time for better comedic value
>>8304805no more kufufu...
The more I gen the more I realize I don't actually like any artist ever, and mixing styles to hopefully combined the features I want doesn't really work eitherIs the way forward to become an artist and train a lora of my ideal style?
>>8304812I feel kind of the same, there is some artist that I appreciate more than other and sometime a piece look amazing no matter the artstyle but I dont think there is a single artist where I would want to copy 1:1
>>8304805>gestartwhat artist is this? i've asked this from you before regarding a different artist lol
>>8304805Keep catboxing every single pic, little cuck ;)
>>8304812same exactlyi just like certain aspects of the artstyle, never any as a whole
>>8304812I've been doing this. Around last year I felt that no artist could really capture the style I pictured in my head so I took a few months of drawing courses and made a twitter account to post my stuff. Once I hit 10k followers then I knew my style was high quality, so I fed them all into a LORA so I could gen reliably in my style. Think it turned out great.https://files.catbox.moe/8eht3v.jpg
>>8304816Keep crying big cuck
>>8304818low hanging fruit, but still laughed
>>8304808the fun part is that wasn't actually intended. the lora just has such an in inherent bias with the flat chest tag that it's unavoidable.>>8304814https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=gestart333https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pa5cfv0u2t0fz/gestart
>>8304819hotis this a character or OC?
remember when everyone was coming together to support noob? forge was updated for vpred, and someone even sent a pull to auto. the whole community came together like the heckin avengers on christmas.and now what?
>>8304806I felt the same way after trying local again after a while, but if you used it before you'll be ok, just don't bother with 150 snake oil extensions right away, the gains are minimal, if any.
>>8304831Pretty much catering to furries and dumping in E621 without curating it is probably what did it. I still don't understand why people cannot understand that anime models and furry models need to be separate thing because they have different goals. Fucking NAI understood that.
>>8304831it sucked
>>8304833EPIC understood... but you all laughed at him...
>>8304834>>8304833stop responding to the reposting bot
>the amount of people continuing to fall for copy pasted repostsis this whole thread bots at this point
>troongel joins artiwaifu discord to look for scraps of how to make vpred work after having a public racist melty against the chinese >it's literally laid out for xim multiple times in multiple channels>xe still can't figure it out why are we tonguing xers anal dilator exactly? because xe gave a shitty base model to hype up xes saas then claimed to be a local hero?
>>8304840I feel like Im stuck in a time loop
>>8304840not everyone spends here every waking minute anon, and checking every fucking post for copypasta is tiringvery insidious schizo/bot desu
>>8304841People who shill this retard now would be equally as quick to dump him if he released another model and were faced with first hand experience of his incompetence. The only, and I mean only reason base illustrious is ok is because it's primarily danbooru. Almost everything else he could've fucked up with it, he did. Absolute unwarranted ego that he's already having spergouts about his superiority over anyone.
>>8304771I'm diamonds
>>8304847why dont (you) make your own base model then and show everyone how its done?
please sirs.... a lora guide that isnt 1 year old..... help me........
>>8304853done fund my compute out of your pocket
>>8304771damn I like noob's atte nanakusa more than nai'snai's is way to soft
>>8304854Literaly just do the same but with Illu 0.1Now shut up.
>>8304825cool. arako o and gestart are neat artists. do you know any other artists that are lesser known or with smaller datasets similar to them?
>>8304854just do it bro... end the suffering
>>8304854year old ones still work fine you know
>>8304855maybe get off your ass and find a way to fund it yourself, like everybody else has
>>8304831Back to pony we go
>>8304863ah yes, everybody else... let's see:>a troon producing saas hired by a company that will force SFW censorship amazing! resourceful!!maybe I should spend months locking on with my dual 1060s next??
>>>/trash/70635170thoughts? maybe e621 training was a good thing after all?
>>8304805loli kurisu is so cute and funny. what is that upscale tech you're using btw?
>>8304867how young entitled do you have to be to expect someone to just provide you, a retard with no skills or experience, anything you want without compromise?
>crosslinking your own post
is cattroonie really melting down this hard his picture got deleted? maybe he'll unalive ximself next if we're lucky
>>8304871you're the one asking for it. you the same vein of self fellating dumbass that thinks a person can't criticise a movie for being shit if they don't go record their own feature film, too? actual brain dead deep throating of angeltroons cock must be cutting off the last bit of oxygen to your brain
>>8304868hope plapfag stays there
>$25/mo bros, how are we feeling?
>>8304875oh boy, you've got me riled up. let's get a few things straight: i'm not even the original anon who called you out. i don't have a retarded childish allegiance to any model or baker, i don't even give two shits about your discordtroon drama. i'm just making it clear you're a retard who's all talk and no action that pretends like he can do better without providing the evidence to back it up. you're a skill less idiot with no knowledge or ability. you can't bake a model. you can't bake a lora. you probably can't even write a basic fucking python script. and you're going to sit here and pretend that if someone handed your entitled ass compute on a silver platter for free, you'd do something better with it? no.no one said you couldn't criticize bakers, no one said you couldn't critique a model. the difference comes when you make claims that yours would be better. you go around saying this shit, and throw your hands up in shock with a pikachu face when someone expects you to deliver? you cry and bitch about local being shit, and then when someone gives you a model free of charge with no strings attached that's better than anything we've had in the past year, you say it's shit and to do better? why don't fucking you? "oh if only someone gave me the compute, oh if only someone did the work for me." always a fucking excuse for why you couldn't do it when others actually have done it, actually did jump through the hoops, and actually did slave away in trenches. you dismiss the effort and time involved in coming up with the opportunity, the compute, to even bake something like that because you're an entitled shitbag who has never done anything in your life that you could be proud of. capital doesn't grow on trees, and no one is going to freely fund your ventures and ideas you silver spooned prick. you're a fucking useless, talentless entitled leech that hasn't worked a day in his fucking life and i'm tired of hearing you bitch about it. rant over, copypasta made.
>>8304876who is plapfag
>>8304878tldr status?
>>8304868uma delicia
>>8304881tldr: anons are retarded and can't say anything outside of 4chan
>>8304868I dont like his content but I respect his commitment.
>my text contribution of the day my running theory is that "a" on the 'coord is angel frequently trying to gas himself up. angel's recent troubles with vpred might also explain why "a" rapidly switched to poopooing vpred yesterday after promoting it in Eugecoord. his motivation was, initially, to get noob to experiment with it so if it worked he could copy their methods. this actually makes it hilarious when you see "a" go on a rant about how amazing and capable "angel" is. the reason angel still rejoined the coords' on his bottomless account was for the attention of it, in typical tranny fashion, because he already had access to the info therein via his "a" account. "a" is also very clearly ESL.you can't prove me wrong. think about it.
>>8304887i thought that was the guy who tried to make the pony vpred conversion thing? angel didnt have a link to the euge cord and didnt know it existed until he asked for more info on noob's training method
>>8304888>i thought that was the guy who tried to make the pony vpred conversion thing?unlikely since he gets bluvoll to do everything for himthe 2nd part doesn't actually mean much since angel could've been feigning ignorance
Million shitmixes must die
>thread is nothing but discordtroon gossipwhat a fucking shithole
Mods.....pls.....fix /hdg/ and purge the shitposter for good.
>>8304879I assume he meant >>8299770seems it's very easy to become a fag these days
>>8304893yeah? post a gen then, you filthy fucking faggot
How is there still not a single fucking deleted post? Do they just not give a shit anymore or what?
>>8304896i've already posted several troon. why don't you post yours?
>>8304901i'm sure you have, cattroonie
>>8304894>>8304899This type of shitposting is probably very hard for mods to detect and they just don't care enough to deal with it. From outsider janny perspective it just looks like your regular hdg text-only thread, who's gonna bother looking into duplicate posts?
>>8304903>no genthat's what i thought. shut the fuck up
>>8304899What rule is being broken? Tech talk is allowed in the AI general
>>8304899lol they never did, remember the constant groid spam?
>Epic awake and active >replies as himself in thread >jword now nets you a ban I'm not feeling so good bros
>>8304904They should be able to see the fucking IPs of whoever is shitting up the thread and see that they're posting botted garbage exactly 1 minute apart? It's not hard for anyone who has fucking eyes and even easier for anyone who has even the most basic of mod tools
>They should be able to see the fucking IPs Should we tell him? >>8304911
so it's safe to say this is now a saas waiting room? seems like local fumbled their chance and now we're all just waiting for kurumuz to burn down the diaper factory
>>8304904SURELY jannies can see IPsBut then again, the retarded site mods removed the IP counter so maybe this is what they wanted
This guy seriously mass reported the frog hag gen? Wtf so it wasn't people being schizo this entire time, there's actually a fucker reporting shit on multiple connections
>>8304869just high denoise accompanied with a median-low weight, early end step controlnet tile.https://huggingface.co/xinsir/controlnet-tile-sdxl-1.0/tree/mainit's listed as diffusion_pytorch_model.safetensors. Also I guess the specific upscaler I use is lollypop.https://openmodeldb.info/models/4x-Lollypop>>8304858there aren't a whole lot. Since, well, low dataset=low discoverability, and all that(arako got RT'd by other artists I follow on twitter and a random anon requested a gestart lora months ago).have someone that does digital oil pastels though, I guesshttps://x.com/NeoRu18436/media
>>8304285>>8304430>>8304634>>8304412Boxes?
>>8304915>wasn't people being schizo this entire time, there's actually a fucker reporting shit on multiple connectionsIt's both. They're being schizo and the troon from SDG mass reports. Normally he gets bored and cycles through the other AI generals, but he's taken a long term residence here (must think he's in good company). He's been doing this for well over a year now, it's really cringey. Thats the kind of person you can just tell has frequent thoughts of suicide if he's not distracting himself with any form of validation from others, very lonely and pathetic existence
>>8304911>>8304914>IPsIf the shitposter's got a dynamic IP it's extremely easy to avoid this. I doubt he's shitting up the thread from a single IP address.And no, jannies can't see IPs, only mods can.
>>8304918nice projection
>>8304919that's retarded
>>8304734Really impressive that it got the star right for the Sapporo beer
Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysFxrPNjvNA
>>8304920you always respond to people with this but yet can someone never describe how what they're saying is projection
It's kind of weird that this supposed cat poster only posts like 1-2 images per thread yet somehow has turned into the single boogeyman that ruins the threads and whenever challenged for proof, no one can provide it. Is this just some insane level of cope done by people in these threads or is there something that I'm missing? I see this in other threads on 4chan where it's easier to state that every bad poster is a single poster but I feel it ends up making your arguments look a bit psychotic and hard to take seriously when you act like this.
horses?
it seems like falseflagging but you can never be sure with a self important troon
me on the lefthttps://files.catbox.moe/vrl5iw.png
Yeah I'm filtering all textposts. Sorry not sorry catbox friends
>>8304921I can see 2 things the shitposter could be currently achieving:1) aiming for 3k text posts2) making any nogen posts practically disappear in flood of schizo reposts which *could* (?) motivate gen posting? and there's always an option where it's just an irrational schizo meltie, of course
>>8304929LOL
So now that noobai project is 32 incredibly expensive gpus training a furshit generator, what is there to look forward to for anime enjoyers? Animagine v4? Euge going solo again? Angel having mercy on our souls and open-sourcing v0.2? Kohaku training one more epoch?Why is it so grim?
>>8304929american schools if kamel wonned
>>8304927I am calling the yakuza
>>8304934sis your jordach donations?
>>83049322) making any nogen posts practically disappear in flood of schizo reposts which *could* (?) motivate gen posting?But what about my le heckin catboxerinos?
>>8304917It's the same as this >>8304501 just with different actions like penis on face, licking armpit etc.
>>8304938nta but >>>/b/
>>8304932Don't think 2 is working. I am just waiting till he finishes his tantrum
sdxl can work at a higher base resolution, twice the size actually. 512 vs 1024. These are base resolutions before upscaling/hiresfix.Do not worry about BREAK unless your prompt is excessively long, 50+ tags. "foot focus" should be your base tag, see what you get out of it then add others one by one. The more you add the stiffer your composition becomes.Do not add negatives preemptively, beyond the base quality ones. Once you start getting gens with a specific thing you don't want, then add a negative for it. Remember to get rid of it once you go to a different prompt.Just like with hands, there's plenty of snake oil that's supposed to improve anatomy. "extra toes", "bad anatomy" etc negatives, embeddings, loras and more. I've never seen them make a difference beyond just random noise. Trust the model to get it right and when it doesn't, inpaint.
>>8304943but they don't share on /b/
Pony XL seems to be completely incapable of doing gore, it even has a hard time making some superficial blood. And I also haven't found any example on civitai.Is there any model, checkpoint or lora that can do any sort of anime violence? I'm thinking some berserk (Wyald) type shit.
>>8304236Love yourself non-furfagjn
https://files.catbox.moe/lbu980.png
Discord is still trying to cope that furry data good. ffs, we don't have a single model to prove that this is the case but alas the voice in their heads have yielded them to the truth
>>8304951does euge realize this general exists?
>>8304909>1girl, clitoris looking at viewer
>>8304947Non-sharing is the least of their problems. The actual quality of their gens is just abysmal. Threads are also prone to extreme meltdowns and wipes with actual scat. It's just complete garbage all around. I unironically tried "going to /b/" just to post pictures without thinking about getting a random retarded 3-day ban for small tits, but it's just not worth it at all. It's garbage.
>>8304953Prying open my third eye
it shouldn't surprise me how butthurt /hdg/ is about noob considering how mentally ill and retarded you all are
Potentially the worst AI related general
>>8304957>it's noob: the post
>>8304946fun fact the latest vpred test can do even higher base res for some reason
predictions for vpred:>colors fucked, generating random monochrome all over the place>default 1girls look like abstract abominations>artists look worse than they do on eps>still looks worse than 0.5 in general>cordtroons will cope and say it simply needs more training>yoinked mentions wdv 5+ times like anyone still cares>nobody mentions the furry dataand with that, i sleepthis will be... something
>>8304950based
>>8304962I generally don't like to doom but yeah, I can't see the vpred being any good if 1.0 is what they are going with and troon is full of yes men or more training copers, ah well.
>>8304963based on what?
you had your chance to move to altchans. you knew this was coming. now reap the rewards of your laziness. get fucked groidchan. keep up the good work schizoGOD
>>8304965based on my fucking cock
>>8304957It's called having standards. Diaperfag wouldn't understand...
>>8304965>Model: illustriousXL_v01on anime dataset
>>8304968all this complaining about noob has me worried about the next release, need an emergency update on>diapers>comic strips>fecal bulging>artist pruning>TE frying>fart cloud inflation>cock vore>prey-shaped bulgesdid they at least make it in? i'm concerned that without it, it won't be enough to surpass pony. has anyone contacted euge to make sure the datasets are still secure and ready to go? colors are already primed for popping, just need that enhanced anatomical knowledge to lock in.
if i want to train strictly a visual style for a lora, do i need to tag my images?
>>8304749holy shit this is so fucking perfect , can I have the catbox so I can make high quality stuff like you?
>just move to treechso it was furfag psyop all along
>>8304964it's already better than v1, the only problem I had with it was random seeds going blue
>>8304974you're the first to mention treech tho
>>8304976Why is it so blurry?
Anyone tried this?https://civitai.com/models/915893/complex-noobai-epsilon-10His previous mixes seem to have been pretty good and reasonably-baked.
>>8304976kek the artist tag just reminded me I needed to try them out, thanks
>>8304964could be worse, you could be responding to the repost bot uh?
>>8304936They can't unfuck the uma
>>8304978it was the only chan shilled here so yeah
>>8304971short answer, yes
>>8304940nta but thank you
>>8304980the best mix is by a guy that makes doghsit prodigy loras using the civit trainer
you realize angel's 'saas' is never coming and it's just a giant vaporware project to siphon research money from the korean gov, right? no saas release, no local releases.
>another jeetmixFuck this general
>>8304950>that saliva dripfuck...
>>8304420I don't like /b/, they're very weird overall and threads gets trolled often by some bored anon with free time. Also, it's all avatarfags and I also don't like that. /slop/ is slightly better than that place but still I don't know why am I still posting, my pics don't get any good (You)'s, only the bad ones. My conclusion is that I should just look up for a new hobby instead.Oh, and the reason why my pics doesn't have any metadata it's because I use Krita and I don't know how to stop it from erasing the metadata. I tried some settings that supposedly fixes that problem but doesn't seems to work anyways. Still, it's not like my pics visually are of any worth, it seems.
>>8304991"Go to /b/" advices are just trolling to make you seethe. Everyone knows /b/ threads are unusable.>/slop/ is slightly better than that place but still I don't know why am I still posting, my pics don't get any good (You)'s, only the bad ones"Bad" ones being "your gens are shit"? Usually people there don't seem to melt down about anything except for black dicks.
>>8304980>This resource has been removed by its owner. . .
>>8304979didnt bother upscaling>>8304981yup, gens of him and typo on noobv1 look nice
>>8304993>"Go to /b/" advices are just trolling to make you seethe. Everyone knows /b/ threads are unusable.No, they are not trolling. It's a way of saying your bullshit doesn't belong here you stupid faggot
Cunny genners are the greatest posters of this general.
>>8304994it was shit, man, shit
>>8304988Korea has a huge market for automated anime art with their webtoons and gachas. I'm surprised it's the govt funding it and not companies kakao.
angel will become increasingly desperate for SRS funds and come here to post, act like a snarky faggot and become astrakike 2.0, claiming he could give us the uncensored, unhashed local version of his not working model, but we don't deserve itcalling it now, screenshot this, quote it from archives when the time comes
>>8304998>Calls out /b/>Doesn't call out /aco/
>>8304991>my pics don't get any good (You)Well you do sabotage them by focusing on children.
In my experience BREAK really isn't that good except for giving the same amount of emphasize to two sections of a prompt. For example:Prompt 1: <extremely long character description>, <action>Prompt 2: <very short character description>, <action>This has a problem in that the actions will have an uneven amount of emphasize, and so the weight of the actions needs to be manually adjusted.BUT you don't have to adjust the weight of the actions if you do this:Prompt 1: <extremely long character description>, BREAK, <action>Prompt 2: <very short character description>, BREAK, <action>which is convenient.
>>8304756hes been doing it for 2 years now
cummieshttps://files.catbox.moe/u58sbc.png>>8304996post chikanbox
>>8304991Why don't you post this stuff in /b/?I don't get it.Can anybody post whatever just because it is in a catbox?I understand if someone does it once or two as exception, but soon all the pedo from /b/ will come here to post.
>>8305010when did this site get filled with such whiny fucking faggots who shart their pants when they see a character who might be underage?
>>8304909
>>8305010Don't click the catbox link you fucking baby it's that simple.
>>8305011They've been trickling in since the 2016 election.
>>8303782>>8303628>>8303727boxes?>>8304805Please my king... Mutsuki metadata
My images get fried... help
>LoRA for something like fruit bowls>All the user images are photo realistic sex with no fruit in sightDo people bot that shit or do they think people want to know if SFW concepts make photoreal porn look good?
>>8305016hm... nyo
>>8305016>no gen or catboxLet me guess, you are also using cumragUI
>>8304991Do you post jpgs by any chance? I filter .jpg filename because jpg posters are usually garbageAlso you can add metadata back by doing a quick 1 pixel inpaint
>>8304959box? nice hole
abandon vpred, return to (ai-generated:1.4)
Use old thread>>8300546>>8300546>>8300546Still 1 image slot left
>>8305015wasn't much of anything complicatedhttps://files.catbox.moe/5af43r.png
if i am training a LORA, should i crop the imagines of the girl i want the model focused on? as in, if there are multiple people in the scene around her, is it better to crop it onto the girl or just train off the full screenshot
if anyone interested, i created a csv that contains all artists and how many images they have on danbooru.donmai.us. Assuming the ones with most images have the most likeness on noob.https://files.catbox.moe/xou5lp.zipList is sorted by image count:name,post_countbanned_artist,84478ebifurya,5843hammer_(sunset_beach),5385haruyama_kazunori,5229itomugi-kun,4512mizuki_hitoshi,4292kouji_(campus_life),4268kanon_(kurogane_knights),3886ruu_(tksymkw),3804yaegashi_nan,3787naga_u,3529tani_takeshi,3411kou_hiyoyo,3367bkub,3248tony_taka,3129...>>8305009the one from previous thread?https://files.catbox.moe/i1h00t.jpgndyxv
>>8305035based, thanks
>>8305035fuck off to /aco/, nigger
>>8305035someone had done it already a few weeks ago, I was using it with ranbooru to remove artist tags
none of this would be happening if ia schizo killed xerself
>>8305033read nigga readhttps://civitai.com/articles/138
>>8305035hang on what's this lora you're using?<lora:vltest_illustriousXL01_v001a:0.5>
>>8304849sovl>>8304950Where did you get the nekoshoko lora? I don't see one for Illust>>8304959nun box?
Stop lewding Sakura
>>8305051it's kinda friedhttps://mega.nz/folder/OEIEjaxI#uq7_gxi4HX9gFd9ziaVOvw
>>8305053why? she is so cute and funny, its hard to resist the urge
Why so many pedos ITT?
>>8305053Which Sakura?
>>8305063Every anime fan is a pedo. We normal people should just head to /aco/
>>8305047lora trained on photos of big titty bitches (yulia, yulia nova, danni ashe, etc). using it at low strength when images get too cartoony to get more realistic anatomy, see >>8305035
>>8305059>illustogrebased
>>8304812just be like shutenanon and randomly schizo prompt artist mixes together until something clicks
>/hdg/ goes to shit at the same time as the /aids/ schizo goes full scorched earthi'm noooticing
>>8305069v2 is a mess, will try a proper fine-tune extract with new settings later.
>>8305070nta but yeah, this is the wayexcept nobody else likes my mixes
Noticer status?
Just don't interact with any post that's not a reply or doesn't have an image attached.
>>8305075if it make you feel better i hate the mix of the shutenguy
>>8305077
>>8305078I mean, I don't particularly like it but, hate? why
>Not even e621 has a tag for pubic hair that is scalesIs that not a thing or something?
>>8305082(pubic hair, scales:1.6)
>>8305082sorry all the tag knowledge were used on different type of fart and shit, gotta be really descriptive for those y'know
>>8305082>pubic hair that is scalesany example of this?
>>8305053its not my fault that brat is so damn sexy>>8305068i dun get it...
>>8305084I am kind of surprised they have 500 terms for feces and when I looked at the body tags list for pubes it was smaller than danbooru's.I thought they would have something for even different types of scale patterns or something.
Is it possible to use NoobAI to generate anything other than flat, fried trash? Other than loading it up with style loras trained on it?
>>8305089skill issue
>>8305089nope. i spent over 100 hours trying to get anything even seemingly related to anime and decided to just re-up my opus level subscription with Novel AI
>>8305089use artist mixes
>>8304980Fried to shit. It was the first mix I tried too. Look into noobaicybermix. Smooth prompt transition if you've been sitting on noob 0.50. I prefer 1.0 over 2.0 personally.
>>8305094>cyberfix>merging a realistic slop model trained on a non-anime dataset into an anime modelthat does nothing let alone "fix" it
>>8305053is this a thinly veiled request or somethinghttps://files.catbox.moe/tqqcak.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/wxjgsl.png
>>8305095you new here?know what aom or basedmix is?
>>8305095it gives it the 2.5 looks that j**ts love
>>8305098>know what aom or basedmix is?Slop?
>>8305099>j**tswhat?
>>8305101jeets
>>8305071>/aids/ schizo goes full scorched earthI'm not seeing anything there, although I'm not really a regular at aids. I wouldn't be surprised if it's fillyfucker though.
>>8305105>fillyfuckerwat
>>8304522>>8304509You forgot the msot important part: caption de images appropietly, you need to caption for the things you DON'T want the Lora to learn.
>>8305112Yep, that's why I don't tag character features other than the name and outfit.
>>8305012
>>8305111fillyfucker is /aicg/'s name for the /aids/ NAI schizoposter. he posts here sometimes too.
>>8305115
>>8305096Absolutely not, stop lewding her.
Keep lewding Sakura
How big were her cans at this age again?
>>8305119look I'm already doing simple test shit, you just needed to ask.https://files.catbox.moe/s1zrm3.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/gdwhla.png
>>8305124i don't get why girls peeing are so cute
What is the difference between the "classic" samplers and the ones labeled as Comfy in reForge? Obviously the comfy ones have been ported / added to reForge, but if they are based in the same math principle, why do they produce different results?
>>8305128added vulnerability.
>>8305096u sonovabitchnice muji lorawhere can I get it
>>8305129help
>>8305124naked, guided penetration, male pov
>>8305129schizo samplers are a meme
https://files.catbox.moe/e6k862.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/s0mfrc.png>>8305131not uploaded anywhere yet. I need to rerun it at higher LR's since while this one works pretty well while tagging the artist it definitely does not work very well when you do not(and I don't have it in the captions so it's not an activation tag).After I crank LR's and see how that goes I'll upload whichever seems to work better.
>>8305140why is it so based64?
>>8305141cute anywayalso I didn't know you had a twitterhope you don't get nuked
>>8305138i forgot to add: cowgirl
tiny Sakura hands stroking an adult penis
>>8305142It's IllustriousXL
>>8304545>>8304555thanks, my pc is ass so i dont usually upscale
>>8305122yessirhttps://files.catbox.moe/2idlhn.png
>>8305142nice bait but good luck finding a based64 gen that looks that dogshit.
The fuck, thius is nothing like yomu_(sgt_epper), what is vpred model doing.>captcha 4ksht
>>8305150>pussy with an actual good urethraPONYGGERS BTFO
>>8305154>insert a dot>call it a urethraPONYCHADS BTFO
>>8305153>why is the severely undertrained architectural conversion of the model released as a test for technical advice jankygee dude I dunno
when kohya is tagging my images, are the tags then linked in the images meta data or is it just the text document attatched with the same name? im asking because i want to replace some of my data set with new upscaled images but keep the same tag txt files
>>8305157illustriousbros, our response?
>>8305015>8303782>boxes?stealthmeta's there but yeah surehttps://files.catbox.moe/lqtbvx.png
>>8305157well some others do better
>>8305150isn't she too young to get v-preg?
>>8305161some skillchads are getting mileage out of it in spite of its flaws rather than despite them, imo. it needs more time in the oven to stabilize.
>>8305162only one way to find out!
>>8305168umm... that's a little girl buster
>>8305155if its so simple then why can't pony do it without inpainting or using any loras?
>>8305172just paint?
>>8305171...out of ten!
smartest pony user
>>8305153which vpred version of noob is this? the newest release or the original test
Stop...not Sakura...
retarded inpaintlet
>>8304509>>8304689boxe? >>8305077>>8305079love your gens nonco anon
>>8305160niiiiiiiiice
https://files.catbox.moe/zs16xb.png>>8305143I don't post all that much to it(twitter is too much effort to try and 'build' anything on anymore). and iirc twitter is actually fairly "safe" as long as you keep solidly to 2d.not that it matters much anyway. Pretty sure I have access to another twitter account that's just as or nearly as old that I can use if it gets nuked for whatever reason. And, really, if misskey wasn't dumb with its region lock I probably wouldn't bother with twitter at all anymore.
>>8305160can i get meta for the reverse nursing? it always makes the girl giving a blowjob instead of licking the nipple
>>8305181super cute style, look forward to the lora if you post it.
>>8305176newest 5k steps
>>8305183the stealthmeta's there too but sure https://files.catbox.moe/38cxnd.pngits nai and I inpainted this pichttps://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/3550907?q=licking_nipple+povhttps://files.catbox.moe/ycw62e.pngim not sure if this sort of pov is possible to get from prompt alone, with local you probably can just controlnet the pic
>>8305188boxo? cute tohru
>>8305191ah thanks i didnt notice that
>>8305192>>8305179Why does my aqua has a body of a 45 year old woman?
>>8305194Because the body of a woman is arousing while the body of a small child (aka a young boy) is unattractive and gay?
>>8305194she started eating a bit too much
>>8305194check the artist he used
Why does ComfyUI get a lot of shit when it uses the latest stable torch and cuda support, has way more extension and works with newer models? I notice a ton of modifiable parts for upscaling.
>>8305199that too, and i cant neg the plump out, its already there in neg. maybe i can try putting fat or mature female in neg
>>8305200because it's autistic spaghetti wrangling
>>8305033you want to crop the image yeah but you also don't want to crop the image to the point where the character is touching the outside borders. you wanna leave a degree of empty space around them so that the ai does not learn to associate specific parts of your character with the edge of the imageyou can also just erase whatever you don't want the ai to learn and leave it transparent and have sd-scripts create an attention mask for you
>>8305200Because it's ugly and has spaghetti noodles everywhere
Thread was a little too schizo and is kinda stale at the moment.Name me your fav waifu (and optionally an artist mix) and I will gen them in a centrifuge cockpit enduring many G-forces at incredible speeds :)))
>>8305194is this better or nah
Finally some content I can REALLY self-insert to!
>>8305200because it's anything but comfy to use
>>8305209>fapping to tvboomer-sama I kneel
>>8305207oshino shinobu
>>8305209where is the eck?
>>8305200made by an immensely cringe /g/ avatarfag. i can not use it in good conscience
>>8305213Please no, I can't even stomach the thought of putting her into a centrifuge, she looks too innocent and cute :c
>>8305207(you) anon
>>8305207i might regret this... but granny from totoro
>>8305200>ComfyUI get a lot of shitdoes it really? It's just frustrating to use and autistic but plenty of anons using. there used to be actual butthurt here about comfy more than a year ago but now nobody really cares unless they have to read through schizonoodle metadata to get the fucking prompt>>8305218i don't think he even posts there anymore, who cares. plenty of software you're using was made by cringy troons
>>8305218that did some annoying shit fueled by a jealousy of voldy i might add>>8305223>i don't think he even posts there anymore, who cares. plenty of software you're using was made by cringy troonsok but i have an alternative that works, so i'll just keep using (re)forge
>>8305219lol then what about hachikuji mayoi?
>>8305082It feels weird to see someone repost what I said last thread>>8305085I have also seen but not saved stuff where it's a small patch of scales but there isn't a tag so I can't really track down anything.https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/7101201
>>8304305The choice is clear. It either has Chadmix in the title or I don't gen. Simple as.
>>8305223Comfy is arguably the better application to use. Who cares about the spaghetti if it can generate an output.>muh uigradio is dogshit
last sakurahttps://files.catbox.moe/d56wiy.png>>8305184I'll probably have one uploaded in a few hours. There's a pretty decent chance it'll be the one I've been posting with but I still want to check higher LR's to see how that goes.
>>8305226maybe convenient censoring tag could work?
>>8305223anon was talking about another UI being in the works and it's in c++
>>8305153it's nice with a lora but undoubtedly needs more time
>755 / 853ktextgensisters.. I'm cashing out. THIS is the thread.
>>8305231Honestly been just doing stuff like [maebari:scales:.5] or [strappless bottom:scales:.5]Only reason I said it last thread was because I expected e621 to be really hyper specific about shit like that but their pubic hair tags are actually lacking compared to danbooru.
>>8305236doesn't even count when it's one schizo copy/pasting an entire other thread
>>8305238Don't jinx me, anon. I cashed out my <2girls, loli, twins> college funds. I'm all in.
>>8305207Ranamon (the aquatic one)
>>8305238yeah there isn't any real momentum to it this time. wait until nai4 gets stealth dropped next week
is this good advice? i should remove tags, like name tags from my data set? or am i reading this wrong?
>>8305250>wait until nai4 gets stealth dropped next weekyeah i feel like it might not release in november
>>8305252no, this is old info from when people were experimenting with loras. there is almost no benefit to this
nai v4 is literally going to be like a fucking nuke on imagegen
>>8305258>tfw i spent hours reading this guide and prepping my dataset in accordance to guide...do you have a link to a more up to date one? some anon from here linked me to this earlier
>>8305252I would do this only for tags the model doesn't already recognize. It made sense back in 1.5 when the model didn't know most characters.
>>8305262i didn't say all info from the guide was useless, just that you don't need to prune tags. best thing to do is look at other loras people have posted recently, train one yourself, and troubleshoot from there
>>8305257They should do at least some sort of 3.5 for their own sake then. A whole fucking year without character updates is not looking great for patreon grifters.
>>8304325>>8304950> cfg++How do I use cfg++ on Forge?
>>8305213I did it anyway :))) Given that she is a vampire she must be strong enough to handle many G's without prior training!>>8305222Does she have a character tag on the booru, or do you have any reference image?>>8305242I dunno, I can try see if I can get close to your mentioned waifu, but there aren't many entries on danbooru for her. :(((
>>8305273>but there aren't many entries on danbooru for her.It's okay anon I understand if she doesn't work
>>8305274Actually it seems that with NoobAI it has little trouble recognizing her, or at least can come to an approximation of what she looks like! So I don't think it will be a big issue after all.>>8305242>>8305222>>8305274Also if i may ask, why are you turned on by the centrifuge/g force stuff, or rather why would you want to see your waifu in these situations?
how do i load a toml into kohya?
>>8305278Just seems interesting I actually don't really get turned on by anything though so for me pornographic images are artful.
>>8305273looooool ty anon
https://x.com/eyeai_how do ai pages like this become popular? it's just extremely basic 1girl standing pics, am i missing something?
>>8305284You buy enough bots to spam your content all over xitter until you get an audience.
>>8305284catbox for that style?
>>8305284>>8305289lol i remember this dude from /g/this is literally based64
>>8305293If so his secret is just doing it for a year straight
>>8305242Sorry I'm too tired right now to finish the inpaint job, so I'm just uploading the raw gens of your request to catbox if you don't mind:https://files.catbox.moe/2qav64.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/z6puv9.png
>>8305294>1 year of 1girl standingIt is really that easy?
>>8305296Thank you anon they look really good!
>>8305288i unironically just don't understand how the fuck do people get those thousands of followers on twitter without botting if you start from nowhere
>>8305293why do anons on /g/ become famous and we just get shit on?
>>8305301Pray to the machine god algorithm
>>8305232qrd?
>>8305304they have the actual talent and communitywe only have schizos
>>8305306animanon is making a c++ gui with stable-diffusion.cpp and wraps around comfyui. unironically a great idea but a lot of work
moar g-force gens
>>8305307what is this /sdg/ falseflag? go back to your dead general that was so overridden with avatarfags the non-trannies decided to make /ldg/, which is the new de facto /g/ thread for stable diffusion
sex with sakura
blacked2hoe.png
can someone gen my mom getting BLACKED?
>>8305319dataset of your mom?
>>8305214nice
>>8305298sexbox?
>yet another /g/ anon that became rich and famous
>>8305323https://files.catbox.moe/r5z1iy.png
>>8305324who are (you) quoting
>>8305324who is blud talking to
>literal who /hdg/ faggot replied to methe ickiest ick
>>8305330gotta be more subtle champ
sex
im trying to take the settings from a lora, and their rates are set to 1, is it actually set to 1 or does 0.0001 just show as 1? sorry for the dumb question
>>8305338pic rel
>>8305334Mika my beloved, nice iridescent clothes
>>8305338Its probably trained using Prodigy which uses those numbers by default and nothing else iirc
>>8305338>>8305340if it is prodigy or dadaptation yes it is
>>8305342>>8305343thanks guys, it is prodigy actually, should i manually set the LR's to 1 then? or will it automatically do that? it also comes with this attatched arg { "decouple": "True", "weight_decay": "0.5", "betas": "(0.9, 0.99)", "use_bias_correction": "False"} do i just throw this into Optimizer extra arguments ?
>>8305338they're using prodigy or dadaption as the other anon said, which are learning rate schedulers that change the LR dynamically. i wouldn't recommend using them desu
>>83053441 should work, and those settings seem reasonable, but not sure about weight decay, maybe it is too much?
>>8305345yea im just running a test bake on my new data set as im trying to create the same style, the lora im taking the metadata is for pony and im baking one for noob 0.5, and im a complete noob so just kinda trying things
>>8305348you can stick with prodigy and dadapt but i would recommend finding a lora that uses adamw
>>8305348prodigy works fine if you want to test and such, and not have to tinker with some lrs etc.some loras will be always bad with prodigy so adamw can be a solution for those
>>8305350>>8305351okay thanks guys, is adamw the best for noob?would you recommend i go through civit, download some lora's for noob and test their settings?
>>8305354there's no relationship between lr scheduler and model, but adamw is good ol' reliable. i would be careful because there is a lot of trash on civitai, but yeah
Well, ring her up.
fight the slop menace in illustrious checkpoints, just say no to generic tunes with no clear aesthetic direction, or any merge which mixes other merges
>>8305358do you actually gen or do you solely exist to be a slight annoyance
>>8305360i regularly snag 2+ spots in highlight-kun's collage
>>8305301Im on my way to overtake the retarded truck-kun, already mogged in somewhere else more important
>>8305355ty for the answers! do experienced anons ever post their lora's here or is there an repository of them i could check out by chance?
>>8305366i found most success with locon extraction w/ adafactor
>>8305346im sorry where do i put these arguements? i have them set in "Optimizer extra arguments"and im getting this error00:45:37-968516 INFO '{ "decouple": "True", "weight_decay": "0.5", "betas": "(0.9, 0.99)", "use_bias_correction": "False" }' is not a valid settings string. 00:45:37-992195 INFO A valid settings string must consist of one or more key/value pairs formatted as key=value, with no spaces around the equals sign or within the value. Multiple pairs should be separated by a space.
>>8305370you need to format it how it's telling you
>>8305372i think i got it now, sorry
>>8305376sex with idols
>>8305376I'm in love with YD's depiction of her with a braid and a white sweater top
Is there a discord
>train style lora>too lazy to even use iti've reached the final stage of ai training
hdg discord?
>>8305388PERFECTION
>>8305368what is locon?
>>8305388Great pic, but>nyalia beermade me kek
>>8305391hits more layers than loraand locon extraction specifically is doing full finetunes and distilling the difference between the trained result and the base checkpoint
>>8305097very cute, pyrabox?
>>8305380yeah, she cute
>>8304805sanae cnny changed my lifewhere can i find the lora for these?
>>8305381We only post about non hdg discords here, champ
is there a new sampler meta? I've been using Euler A Normal the whole time
>>8305184>>8305131I guess I was right that the one I was using earlier was the one I was probably going to upload but hey, nothing ventured nothing gained.https://www.mediafire.com/folder/gbr0y4hllw09l/muji>>8305400https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pa5cfv0u2t0fz/gestart
https://files.catbox.moe/g3ska8.png
i alternate between euler a normal, dpm++ 2m karras and euler smea dy (local knockoff)
>>8305404No CFG++? No Dy? SMEA Du?
everything feels dead and quiet because everyones waiting to see if noob vpred will be fixed or if we need to do a full cope with pre-TE trained versions. I'm literally bored as fuck gathering obscure dataset material I don't even know if I'll train just to bide time until I know what model I'll go all in training on.
>>8305404euler a cfg++ aysdpm++ 3m sde cfg++ ays
>>8305410>train, train, traincan't you gen with what we have?
>>8305410do you actually need to train? I trained like 300+ chars on sd1.5 times, with noob i need to train like 5 chars
>>8305404ignore schizo samplersEuler A and most of it most popular schedulers are fine.
>>8305412I prefer training to genning, you wouldn't understand
>>8305326thx bro
>>8305413:>>8305415
>>8305410literally same...i almost feel weird for not training something every night but i don't want to do it until i know if the vpred model is going to be shit or not
>>8305415no, i was in your position when we had dogshit models that didn't know any artists or charactersbut now... i mean if they're someones OC or obscure style it's aight
>>8305418it's an abstract kind of purgatory
>>8305419you're just a casual, it's okay
>>8305418you should be spending this time developing schizophrenic approaches to training
>>8305419genning is just boring to me, I genuinely enjoy training, figuring out datasets, minmaxing settings, etc. it never had to do with the model not knowing what I wanted for me desu
>>8305421i just pity you that you don't enjoy genning anymore and stuck in that dreadful training loop
>>8305423you're not wrong about thatit's just that most of the schizo tests i'd run would be on the vpred test models and they're so jank that it's hard to extrapolate much from them
>>8305427big same. I've even run a bunch of retarded tests on the test model, but for all I know the finished version reacts to params and datasets completely differently so I know it's mostly pointless. I feel empty senpai
noob vpred status?
>>83054302 more weeks
>>8305430extra crispy
>>8305430the latest partial epoch is finally locking in!
Why is yoinked blogging status updates to his obscure irrelevant finetune in the noob discord? The crayon eaters interacting with him are confused and think he's baking something related to noob, top kek!
>>8305437Are you guys fat ugly brownoids irl or do you unironically get off to the idea of watching one have sex with your waifu? I don't get it, it seems kind of homo to be into having a man unlike yourself or at least your ideal self in your gens
>>8305444>Are you guys fat ugly brownoids irlYes.
>>8305445I want off this ride...
>>8305444Not him but retardanon have you ever considered that 1girl isn't anon's waifu?If it isn't my waifu then I can do WHATEVER I want with her, you heard me, W-H-A-T-E-V-E-R I want,
>>8305444>Are you guys fat ugly brownoids irlDo you think everyone on the internet is white or something? lol
>>8305447But why would you want to watch any girl being fucked by a fat, ugly brownoid?>>8305448They were when I started posting here
>>8305450>why would you want to watch any girl being fucked by a fatI never said I wanted nor liked that, retardanon.
>>8305444
>>8305452Then your response made no sense in the context of the conversation
>>8305454Not really
>>8305453Father and son bonding time as God intended >>8305455Maybe reading comprehension just isn't your strong suit, then. No big deal
>>8305450>why would you want to watch any girl being fucked by a fati like humiliation
>>8305458And you can keep seething like a retard all you want at other people tastes.
>>8305459cringe
>>8305459>>8305456
>>8305459?
>>8305450>They were when I started posting hereI'm pretty sure that in 2016 that wasn't the case
>>8305459It's okay to be gay, fat, ugly or brown, anon. No need to sperg out
>>8305464I wasn't guessing your birth year
i'm a fucking shapeshifter, i can be any shape, form, race, color i want
>>8305465>It's okay>but I reply to 1fat anywaybased retard
>>8305467of all the shapes and you chose poo...
i need...a vpred training config...
>>8305474It's fried
>illustriousXLPersonalMerge_v30Noob10basedwhats this?
It messes up things but makes some funky art piece.
>>8305470That's beauty of the internet we can be whatever we want, me brown, you a retard, it's great.
>illustriousXLPersonalMerge_v30Noob10basedbest model atm
for me, it's chadmix
>NTR mixStill the best.
>>8305474just use one of these: https://rentry.org/vpredzsnr-poc-lora-testsI'd wait for them to upload the fixed version though and see if it's actually fixed yet
For me, it's ObsessionNextNoobCyberfix0.6
Who knew that posting generic hentai fat ojisans would cause some guy to act up this badly over browns on /h/.
neggles status?
>>8305487how broken is her left arm to have her forearm/wrist in that position Jesus Christ
for me, it's the DPM SDE No Brown sampler
>>830548842%'d
>>8305411how do you get cfg++ and ays? or do you mean either because from my test I also noticed those 2 were the best
>>8305488he started begging on the street for compute but got run over by some mysterious guy that didnt even notice him while yelling racist insult at the chinese and furry (kinda based)
>>8305495It looks like his dick got disproportionately long and thick and made a dick bulge where her left side ribcage is, just under her boob kek
>>8305499kek
chadmixers living large rn fr
>>8305444I think it's partly because if the man were a light-skinned hunk, a picture of masculine beauty, the audience (insecure men) would feel threatened. You should try visiting the yumejoshi thread on this board. It's pretty much "hentai but if it wasn't targeted towards incels."
>look at noob Civit user gens >unique and interesting style mixes >look here >all the same generic ugly look that looks like they're longing for autismmix .wtf did pony do you guys
>>8305444Yeah maybe youd fit better on the girls thread bro like >>8305506 said
>>8305508>unique and interesting style mixes proof?
>Civit users>unique and interesting style mixespftthahahhaha
>>83055089+/10 mixes on civitai are pure sloppa, link the ones you liked
>>8305506>would feel threatened.This is even weirder to me. If you're already imagining some fantasy scenario with a smoking hot hentai babe, why wouldn't you also want to imagine yourself as not a pile of trash? Its really bleak
BLOODY BITCH BASTARD GEN THE EXPRESSIVEH, 17 YEAR OLD TEENAGER, DISNEY-PRINCESS LORA
>>8305514We get it dude you want to get fucked by a stud, please go come out of the closet to your parents don't get us involved.
>>8305511>>8305512Don't get me wrong there's still a bunch of nasty looking furry aco trash and so on, but if you scroll through there is a lot more variety and aesthetically interesting styles. Vs here where everything currently looks like it was gen by the same anon with the same base prompt and a couple half assed wildcards. Hdg used to have more style variety before autism mix made everything extremely uniform too
>>8305522why do you type like a retarded zoomer?
>>8305519By that logic you want to get fucked by a fat, ugly bastard. Feel like I came out on top if I had to chose one
>>8305522Is this your first day here or something?
>>8305524Don't know what you mean, I'm in my 30s and have been here since the early 2000s
>>8305522yeah man this >>8305461looks the same as this >>8305453looks the same as this >>8305406looks the same as this >>8305356RETARD
>>8305526No idea dude, not me complaining why the dude isn't hotter kek
>>8305527Yes, my post referencing hdg days of old and hdg pony Stockholm days obviously shows that. Retard-kun...
>>8305531I don't like looking at ugly people, don't know why you do.
>>8305529They're all the same kind of milktoast, bland look, yeah? You couldn't have picked worse examples
>>8305535well then too bad faggot, maybe /y/ is more your speed huh.
>>8305536oh I see you're one of those retards impressed by detail enhancer loras and fried (ultra high detail, very detailed:1.8) gens
>>8304795Use comfy or try a shitmix like this onehttps://civitai.com/models/895531/konanmix-noobai-xl-illustriousxl
where are the asura asuraser images
>>8305539I can scroll my mouse wheel once or twice on https://civitai.com/models/833294/noobai-xl-nai-xland get more interesting style variety, no weird detail loras or extra noise required. Shitvit bar is incredibly low, you're being disingenuous if you genuinely feel hdg is taking advantage of the large artist list in any capacity recently
>>8304795maybe merge one?
>>8305545still haven't seen you post a single one of those images you like so much
>>8304437
>>8305542we don't post those here.
>>8305545If you've been in these thread in the past month you'd seen all kinds of styles. Some of those people post here as well.
>>8305547Why would I repost images from the Civit page? Or are you trying to negate legitimate criticism with the good ol' >no gen?It's ok if I think your image is bland, you don't need to go on the attack over it
>>8305551just link some images are you legitimately fucking retarded or something?
>>8305545don't bother bro /hdg/ is pure slop these dayseveryone here thinks he's an art critic meanwhile they jerk off to endless variations of "1girl, vaginal, pov, simple background" gens.
>>8304426it's a slight fidelity boost for normal gensbut i also dabble in more /d/ gens and appreciated being able to prompt for ovipositor tentacles specifically w/ 1.0's TEyou can hotswap them at inference time pretty trivially
>>8305550I've sadly and unironically read every thread here since around the time pony started picking up in popularity (only occasionally lurked before that). But ok, if you say so, I'll just magically believe it over my own eyes!
>>8305548cute
>>8305552Are you so brain damaged you can't look at the page at a glance and recognize the difference? I'm not asking for images that fit a specific niche, I'm pointing towards a general concept of variety which should be easily recognizable
>>8304483because you can easily do it yourself if you have 1.0 and 0.5 downloaded?
>>8305556I've scrolled through noob gallery images and there's nothing spectacular there compared to what's posted here. Post some example links to make your case.
>>8305554Guess I'm nostalgic for times past...
I agree everything ITT is the same flavor of slop
Did Nana ever release these lora? Couldn't find them on the huggingface.https://x.com/nana_tsukisuwa/status/1827310858311233768
>>8305548dragon wife outsells again
>>8305548HOLYbox?
this lora is taking so long to bake bros.....
>>8305570what settings?
>>8305570worth
>>8305570>12s/itare you on batch 64 or something?it looks like obvious ram offloading
>>8305570>4 hours for 1.6k steps are you sure it's not a locon or dora...
>>8305571i think upping the repeats to 25 is what increased the time by so much, i did identical parameters yesterday and it was done in like 30 mins>>8305572i hope so i have no idea what im doing desu>>8305573not sure, im using runpod and my gpu memory is maxed so i think thats impacting the generation time, i should probably switch to a different gpu but ive already waited this long that i feel committed
>>8305575I'm gonna be honest, there is no chance in hell you need 25 repeats
>>8305575yea i just put it at that to try it out but now im regretting it, whats a good repeat amount? i have a dataset of about 150 images
>>8305580meant for>>8305577
>>8305567https://files.catbox.moe/r8wrhk.png
>>8305580Like, 1? I only ever used repeats when I had 20 images.
hag
>>8305387
https://files.catbox.moe/p9ieba.png
>>8305580150 images shouldn't need any repeats at all, unless they're separated into different concepts and you need to give specific concepts a repeat to even them out with the other concepts try this config next time you attempt, with no repeats on your dataset: https://files.catbox.moe/2exw0n.tomlmay need to adjust some settings depending on the results but should be a much better starting point (that toml is for derrian distro's easy scripts, I recommend it over the other kohya GUIs but if you have to use a different one open the toml in notepad and copy the settings)
>>8305575>im using runpodwhat's your VRAM? you should be able to train sdxl Loras even on 8gb with a bit of elbow grease
Didn't feel like forking session organizer but I made an edit to give it saved paths/ability to put it in quick settings.I just kept forgetting to actually input anything in it without the constant reminder at the top of the screen.https://litter.catbox.moe/r1oic3.py
>>8305590ty! but im sorry im not sure how to use a toml? where do i input this inside of kohya?>>8305592im using a 4090, issue is im using a package that runs forge, kohya, comfy ect, so it eats up a decent chunk of my vram, i just started using runpod and sd so im just trying to figure things out atp
>>8305600>where do i input this inside of kohya?you can only use the toml with https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts which is a front end for kohya scripts if you want to use it with regular kohya sd scripts or bmaltais gui you need to open the toml in notepad or some other text editor and manually re-enter the settings
>>8305602honestly someone should just get Claude or Chatgpt to write a quick conversion script between the kohya GUIs for cross toml compatibility..
>>8305602okay ty! im still a bit confused tho, do i use the easy training scripts as a replacement for kohya?
https://files.catbox.moe/dnzgjy.pngalso friendly reminder to watch llenn's showhttps://files.catbox.moe/nxpta9.png
>>8304462https://files.catbox.moe/njx405.png
>>8305631pretty rad ngl
>>8305602>>8305609sorry i think i get it now its just im using runpod and im not sure how i would implement it, typically i deploy a pod which is prebuilt and has a imagen gui and kohya, but idk how to add this on aghhh
>>8305633It sucks at cum inside a slime girl unfortunately but I don't feel like making t he effort to try and fix it right now
Are you guys fat ugly brownoids irl or do you unironically get off to the idea of watching one have sex with your waifu? I don't get it, it seems kind of homo to be into having a man unlike yourself or at least your ideal self in your gens
>>8305638I'm actually green, thanks for asking
>>8305638you've already made that question
just fuckin around with illustrious, pretty fun
Been a good minute since I've fooled with loras. Should we still feed it 1:1 images or can we wing it now?
>>8305634Ngl it'll probably be easier to get Chatgpt to guide you (it will understand if you give it the link to easy scripts and ask it how to git pull it on runpod/set it up). It lists all the settings in plain text if you open the toml up in notepad, so although it's a bit tedious it shouldn't be hard to copy them over to whatever you're currently using
>>8305631https://youtu.be/4iwHb189X84
>>8305646basedhot af
>>8305631>>8305646>>8304532And yet, despite all the trolling, /hdg/ outdoes /ddg/ in but a couple of posts.
>>8305648If you mean size then just enable bucketing on kohya
>>8305657yeah, as in image size. Will do.
This is more in line with spider girls
>>8305659of note it still can't be smaller than the sdxl base training sizes or it'll look like pixelated shit with the automatic upscale attemptalso if the image is like retardedly huge reso it's sometimes safer to downscale yourself before hand, sometimes (rarely) I get unclean lines from bucketing those. on average though you're safe to throw your dataset in, bucket and only give a fuck about either of those things if there's something horribly wrong with your results that can't be explained by any settings choices
lol
>>8305664>disinterested stare
>>8305655Wow its all dickgirls
>>8305641>>8305643Are you guys fat ugly brownoids irl or do you unironically get off to the idea of watching one have sex with your waifu? I don't get it, it seems kind of homo to be into having a man unlike yourself or at least your ideal self in your gens
>>8305664this pure prompt?
>>8305583Nice, thank u
>>8305683https://files.catbox.moe/1rb2lv.pngyeah but the third person not participating was just gatcha. although now i'm in the process of replicating it
>>8305655Isn't /d/ still on pony for dicks or something? Even though tagging "glistening penis, itto /(mentaiko/)" is all it takes to make them detailed.
>>8305685wow, amazing work
>>8305646based spiderfucker, is there a tag for that spider ass behind her?sometimes spooky https://files.catbox.moe/laixnn.png
>>8305685Are you guys fat ugly brownoids irl or do you unironically get off to the idea of watching one have sex with your waifu? I don't get it, it seems kind of homo to be into having a man unlike yourself or at least your ideal self in your gens
>>8305688Arachnae was getting it everytime for me, may be model dependent. Try adding carapace, abdomen maybe
>>8305691cute ichika
been out of this for a few weeks, guessing noob fried after 0.5?
>>8305693This is great
>>8305697they started training e621 into it and anons feel like they messed it up, but yes.
>>8305692womp womp
>>8305693Can anyone explain what's with the attraction to odd shit like robots, monsters, zombies here? What's wrong with normal women? Logically, wouldn't you want to procreate with a beautiful woman?
>>8305697Yeah they fucked the TE because lax wanted to train an LLM instead. Euge is still trying to salvage a vpred conversion but if it's base is the fried 1.0 then we have no idea how it'll go. There were some training issues so the botched beta tests were released on hf of vpred, ignore them. Lax said he might be uploading a newer vpred training checkpoint tomorrow but most of us are waiting to see what the finished product ends up like before we commit to what level of cope were in
>>8305708>beautiful womanlike Tifa?
>>8305708by that logic why do you prefer hentai to 3dpg, anon?
>>8305714why are you responding to a blatant shitposter
>>8305704that's not true, e621 has been in the dataset since the beginning of noob. the difference is they began training the TE as of 0.5. accurate information matters
>>8305708severe porn addiction
>>8305693old noob vpred test probably just can't make it properly, but still on 1.0 this one is the best I could get with pov, from side shots way more easier
MUUUUUH LLMs that-will-soon-get-easily-outperformed-by-another-corpo, and you cant do nothing about it, chuds!
>>8305721(you)
>>8305708not who you're quoting but I self insert as them and it's way cooler to imagine being a monster girl (inb4 faggotry, I'm female (female))sometimes I also prefer the mental stimulation of interesting designs vs pure smut too, if that makes sense..?
>>8305704>>8305710ripI never had faith in the chinks in the first place but I wanted to be proven wrong
b-chama...
>>8305721no bro you dont understand, better to attempt to compete in the extremely oversaturated and expensive field instead of the one that has literally 0 actual competition
>>8305725IS A FUCKING WORTHLESS WHORE
>>8305559I'm not seeing an easy way in reForge and I'm not downloading c*mfy.
>>8305724there's some sliver of hope the extra training of vpred realigns the TE and unet. they're still going to be the best local models we have, it just sucks ass it could've been better when that amount of compute is unlikely to grace us plebs ever again
>>8305723do you like to insert yourself as lolis too?
>>8305728rude, I'll have you know there are many anons who'd pay a solid $3.50 for me
>>8305732nta, only if it's a loli mind controlling/blackmailing an older guy
>>8305732no, I'm too old for that>being six armed oni: ok, no problem >being the little girl: unrealistic, fantasy ruined
>>8305732if you don't self insert as a cute little girl then you're clearly a fag.
Help I can't stop genning full nelson
>>8305741was moot the most hetero 4chan poster all along
>>8305743you dont need help thats normal
>>8305745Oh ok thanks.
>>8305708>beautiful womanYeah that's why I pick the monster girls/boys. I would scissor a dragon-half any day.
>>8305747>scissor Troon detected.
>>8305749pretty sure they say "peg"
>>8305651still struggling with this but i think just running the training locally and then manually porting toml ports over to my kohya instance on runpod is the solution
>>8305710Is this actually LAX's decision? I feel like he was just being lent the company's compute and is now being kicked to the curb when the company actually started doing work. Similar to how troongles claimed WDV had access to so much compute since he worked for Flux only for him to get tossed out after trying to waste their resources on his shitbake. At least noob managed to put together a half decent model.
>>8305750nice
>>8305750reminds me of that one z-ton girl
This? Peak hentai.
ok, guys, wrap it up, the tranny is back
>>8305757iirc they said they're using their cluster for LLM training now so it's not gone, just not being used towards noob anymore. some alternate GPU (still large but not the amount of the prior cluster) was given towards doing the vpred conversion. lax said his background/their focus is LLM. so I assume that's why they think he decided that. I might be misquoting or misremembering, I glaze over half the stuff said in discord. would make sense to me if that's the real reason they decided to blast the TE, but as far as I know they've not claimed that out right or anything
>>8305763do you like to insert yourself as female pedophile?
>>8305769he scissors groid shotas
>>8305767why even bother with llm bullshitthere's so many more bigger fish in the game that are completely open. what the fuck do they even think they can accomplish
>>8305767Well I'm mostly just talking about>because lax wanted to train an LLM insteadI know noob is a bit slopped, but I don't think LAX is trying to rush it for the sake of moving on to an LLM project. It just seems like something outside of his control. I don't think he's actually in charge of very much or else he would've been using all the GPUs from the start and wouldn't have to 'apply' for them.
hora hora take that you shitty brathttps://files.catbox.moe/wrem35.png>>8305272its reforge
man, the model just fails to get her details in a way that's annoying (missing earpiece, sidelock on wrong side, eye symbols fried, wrong bowtie design) nevermind that I can't seem to get her with white skinGuess robot fucking just isn't in the cards for me unless I bake a lorahttps://files.catbox.moe/lb7yse.png
>>8305773because llm has way more applications than image gen. why do you think all the big players (facebook, google nvidia, etc.) are all in llm with insane parameter count models that image gen can barely compare to? we're not even close to how good image gen could be; flux is only a drop in the bucket
almost done bros>inb4 its complete shit
>>8305777That's good and nice but can it into erp though?
>>8305779i mean unironically yes? you already have plenty of erp models for llm, and i'm sure the uncucked versions that the big corps have would be god tier at it
>>8305778>loss 0.1It shit
>>8305773now that elections are over, we're going to see the releases of video gen models (no decent local, of course). Hold on to your papers
>>8305777sure cool whateverthe fuck does it matter when facebook will just release full weights for another better model in a month or two that completely fucking dwarfs whatever homegrown garbage they try to do something with.the only reason to do llm shit at this point is if you're freelancing and doing a hyper bespoke training for some corp and if you're doing that they're paying for everything flat out to begin with.
>>8305776based, probably my favorite girl from BA (by look, because i don't play gacha)what artists/lora are you using?
>>8305774He doesn't "own" the GPUs, but it's the company he owns that is using them/training the LLM on that cluster, so it's not like the company that owns the GPUs took them away. He's literally just using them for something else.
>>8305784>doing a hyper bespoke training for some corp and if you're doing that they're paying for everything flat out to begin with.who's to say this isn't what they're doing? i don't think they're training an llm from the ground up for shits and giggles. i wouldn't be surprised if they're finetuning llama to begin with
>>8305786mostly ohisashiburi, as109, and a bunch of random low weight loras for style normalization (I'm just too lazy clean up the workflow)I do wish as109 was stronger but I'll need a lora for that toooh I also slapped in deadnooodles, modare, eonsang, huhi_\(huhi_1211\) for the gook magic, does kinda flatten out nipple textures but makes the eyes a little better since ohisashiburi can cause them to get a little melty
>>8305777truthnuke. really image gen barely gets any research in comparison, our techniques are still quite antiquated and blunt (text goes in, image comes out) with the same issues since day 1. datasets even at the foundation model scale are still completely slopped. local even more so as we get the sloppiest of scraps. even disregarding the theoreticals, we're still at only a fraction of where we could be with current tech. bigger models like flux remain untuned. compare base SDXL to Noob and you couldn't even guess they're the same architecture. i asked lax before and he said he was interested in exploring other models after sdxl, but this was back when he was still bringing up the 512x compute
>>8305755>>8305778good luck in your lora ventures fren
>>8304426holy snakeoil
>>8305797and c*mfy workflow
>>8305791unless they scammed the corp they're training for for significantly more GPU time than they needed and used that for image gen they'd have to actually be retarded to give up GPU time to do specifically that(or they're grifting from whoever they managed to get the GPU time from).the corp should be providing the cluster themselves for whatever bespoke training they're trying to get done. If they aren't and they aren't paying for the GPU time they're getting a wicked fucking sick deal that you'd have to be braindead to even offer.
>>8305797>>8305798very funny mate
>>8305798can you just not merge the TE and take it fully from .5
>>8305801Is that not how you do it? https://civitai.com/models/895531/konanmix-noobai-xl-illustriousxl did it like this with 0.75 - take the model, replace its CLIP with 0.5's in CLIPMergeSimple, save.>>8305802You mean like that? But that's not what the mix above did, and it was recommended here a while ago.
>>8305803oh yeah fuck, you're good, I'm blind lol
>>8305792thanks
>>8305803>Is that not how you do it?That's not the problem, your example is a character that was added with 0.75 so it's no wonder 0.5 looks way worse.Most IL checkpoints don't know her.
>>8305797can you do an example on a character that was more prolific pre 2024
>>8305800nta but it's confusing because Euge mentioned that Lax had to fulfill certain requirements as the "grantee". he follows up by saying >lax initiated the project and the GPUs are his but I'd assume he means the GPUs are granted to lax, since lax attributes some other company as the sponsor for their compute and the obvious temporary time lease on their use. someone could probably just DM the guy and ask, truly
So you're saying Pony is still the undisputed king.
>>8305810yeah that kind of sounds like they were given the cluster primarily for the LLM shit and they just happened to divert an amount of the GPU time to image gen training. Also means it's not unlikely that they tried to do stupid shit to get image gen stuff done faster so they could handle the actual task they were given.The whole thing seems really fucking weird and badly prioritized.
>>8305807Really? I thought the booru dataset remained the same throughout, just that e621 was added starting in 0.75.>>8305808Sure. Still looks like snake oil, the hands are mangled where they were fine on 1.0.
>>8305814e621 was added from the getgo I'm pretty sure? Or at least after .1it's present in .5they just didn't enable the TE training until after .5
>>8305814NTA E621 was always there from the start. They just started training TE cause they wanted it to learn faster. Unet only training is very slow as far as I understand.
>>8305775sakura is built for sexual harassementhttps://files.catbox.moe/thprdt.png
>>8305179nonco's anatomy and eyes are peak imo
>>8305814Also my reForge keeps OOMing when I try to make a comparison of 3 models at once so here's proof that the two Comfy merges are exactly the same, as expected.>>8305815>>8305816Still, that doesn't quite explain why the early models don't know Mavuika if they didn't update the booru dataset halfway through.
>>8305819They did as far as I know. The new vpred will also have a few new characters. I think he said the data was up till august now
>>8305818
>>8305814now lora extract 1.0 and subtract it from .5 for shits and giggles
>>8305824Nigga I just downloaded Comfy for the first time half an hour ago, I haven't got a clue how to do something that complicated.
>>8305823That catbox link lol
>>8305823>>8305831>it's real
>>8305814I dunno how it works in detail but any IL merge not based on noob0.75 or higher won't know her as far as I've seen.
>>8305810basically sounds like they're doing what jordach should've done when tree managed to get him amazon compute. just scam the offer and bake what you want. kind of based honestly, i hope they manage to secure it even longer
>>8305408candybox?I want to stick my lollipop in there if you catch my drift
>>8305831>>8305832
>>8305823witnessed
>>8305837nevermind I stopped phoneposting and saw the metadata, thanks
>>8305842sorry anon you gotta go, no witnesses and all
>>8305449Box?
>>8305790Box?
no
>>8304706You can get uncensored hentai, even before AI was really a thing, you know? Not everyone who lives in Japan uses pixiv or follow the laws.Either way, censorship is fucking retarded, it ruins everything.
this just in: they added NL to vpred noob (booru tags still intact) and it actually works on mobile so can't give a good screenshot but Lax is posting examples on noobcord
>>8305860>and it actually worksI mean yeah? Illu used tags + NL captions for 1.0+ models and it worked too.
so is it over or are we back
>>8305858>You can get uncensored hentai, even before AI was really a thing, you know?You can, but majority of the medium is still censored. I can't imagine enjoying hentai and jav if censoring is a major deal breaker for you. And yeah of course the practice is completely pointless and retarded, I don't think anyone is disputing this.
>NLwho the FUCK cares, boomerproompting is so much worse than using tags
>>8305862don't look at the hands...
>>8305861there was a lot of groaning and moaning from people and anons that it wouldn't work well with clip g when they were originally talking about implementing it
>>8305862>ignored 90% of the boomer promptit's over
>>8305862>doesn't really follow the NL prompt and generates an actual camera because of "looking at the camera"yep perfect
>>8305862Wat? How is that a good example at all? Half of prompt is ignored, and another half could easily be just tags working. You could probably stick this prompt into Illu 0.1 or NAI and it' work in a similar fashion.
>>8305862>inherently harder to prompt>somehow also barely follows the prompt at all>worse qualitywhat's the point?
>>8305862that one was fucked but the one after had fine hands, I want to believe it was whatever artist wildcard he used kek.. I must cope it.. at least he's giving honest samples >>8305864its extremely useful for unique interactions, poses and multi char pics/features. no one uses only NL, but it solves a lot of the issues only tags brings>gen nail polish on girl >guy is wearing glittery nail polish not anymore >gen girl with long hair wearing a skirt >guy has the long hair and skirt NOT ANYMOREregional prompting is ass and shouldn't count as a solution btw
>>8305871>>gen nail polish on girl >>guy is wearing glittery nail polishJust use BREAK? Never had such an issue.
>>8304417>>8304585>>8304976elfbox?
>>8305872that's not what break is actually for nor does it actually fix this. if you've never encountered this kind of shit you don't gen enough
>>8305862If that's just an a random experiment bake, it's fine.>>8305871I see the power of NL when using Flux but it has an entirely new encoder for it. It's just not worth it with clip alone.
>>8305871But doesn't NL require LONG-ass walls of text to be any decent? Can you really use it sparingly to specify the small things that are outside the capabilities of tags? Because if the NL captions were made for images as a whole, there's almost no doubt they skimmed on such little details in favor of describing the image in general.
>>8305863There are still a lot of pieces I enjoy despite being censored, but if they were uncensored, they would be 100x better.I've archived 3.4TB of Pixiv after all lol.
>>8305866the clip token limit could easily cut a sentence midway before concattingand unless they expanded it many training scripts either hard limit it to the clip 75 or to 225 even with the extra expansion and just silently discard most of your captioning, and i really doubt thats enough for NL
>>8305871i think that sort of complexity is better addressed with controlnet scribbles than trying to stir in extra ingredients after the sauce is already done cooking
Every time they deviate from the simplest plan (start v-pred from 0.5, don't train TE, throw away furshit, train using booru tags) the final v-pred bake is losing more and more chance to be any good.Really all this crap piled on top should be a separate experimental version. Make local NAI first, then do whatever the fuck you want. How is this not obvious to them?
>>8305862>no horns>no peace sign>no ok gesture>random camera>only 3 starsthis is purely placebo, NL is definitely not working
>>8305882LAX is the predator. NovelAI is the prey.
>>8305883>>random cameraHe did ask for camera though
>>8305885yeah and she was supposed to be looking at it, and she isn't even doing that
you guys just dont understandusing WD tagger to help all the under and untagged images? NO WAY THAT SHIT IS TOO INACCURATEjoycaption NL captions with the gorillion problems it brings? HELL YEAH BROTHER
>>8305888this but unironicallyt. totally not lax
>>8305884LAX is the greatest online predator of all time.
>>8305883I think the example before that showed more promise, that being said I agree it's just placebo, you can get "NL" to work on any XL model even illus and noob but it's not really doing NL
>>8305882They’re losing their compute slowly and want to pack more experimental shit while they can.
>>8305883after trying some of his prompts I think it's actually working a little
>>8305810been following lax for quite a while, he is from an LLM training team, this is kind of a side project of those guys.they have dedicated 32 h100 to llm training for now and noob vpred is being trained on 8/16 a100 (16 if they managed to fix the issue)
Getting back to this: What's everyone using these days? It looks like Pony is no longer favored and the hot new base checkpoint is Illustrious!?Why the change?
>>8305882Don't even bother disputing furshit in the dataset at this point. It's not going away. Our best hope is that they stop being retarded and continue unet-only training 0.5 with vpred conversion the way Euge did it for the test run (that's possible, right?). From what I understand, H100s are not gone for good, they're gonna get them back at some point.
>>8305876>But doesn't NL require LONG-ass walls of text to be any decent?it shouldn't, no, unless they really fucked up training it in. having the booru tags too helps a lot, NL is more useful like glue to hold concepts together that would otherwise be left at the mercy of random associations >>8305875based on the examples he's posted I think it will work fine to help. no one with two brain cells to rub together is going to prompt clip g in full NL like the examples, it'll shine by adding smaller context to tag based prompts
>>8305897>It looks like Pony is no longer favored and the hot new base checkpoint is Illustrious!?>Why the change?i have no idea, this all is so fucking surreal. what was wrong with pony diffusion v6???
>>8305854https://files.catbox.moe/rldh1i.png
>>8305897noobai (0.5 or 1.0) or illustrious
>>8305903>nexon copyrightsabayo
>>8305897>>8305900imo, people mainly use it because artists were part of the training dataset (pony was hasing them afaik). also, pony has the distinct pony look, and the illustrious/noobai ones are a bit more varied
>>8305899I think you and me are looking at different examples. All his examples are barely following the prompt and is just picking up tags like arms stretched/rain or holding pillow which are all tags.
>>8305862If you go back and look at Euge's NLP caption examples, you can see exactly why it fails to get anything right. The VLM they are using is complete garbage and hallucinates practically 50% of the image. Even worse when they try using it on images with named characters.They really are overstacking XL with this shit when not even their EPS bake was stable. Too many changes stacked on during the final stretch way too late as they're losing the compute needed to thoroughly test this stuff. Should've done vpred from day 1 and this stuff around the ~0.75 time.
>>8305906what this anon is trying to say is that pony is fucking garbage with immediatly recognizable ugly ass AI slop look and stiff poses
>>8305909yeah, you can put it that way. I definitely prefer noob 0.5
>>8305899> NL is more useful like glue to hold concepts together that would otherwise be left at the mercy of random associationsNo, it really fucking doesn't.You don't need that bullshit for most interactions. You'd only kind of """"want"""" it for extremely niche situations.All that really needs to be done is expand *booru tagging to up specificity. Drop shit like "arm up" and adopt things like "left arm up" or "right arm up"Most of the retarded shit you try and cite as something NL "solves" is shit that isn't actually much of a problem or is something so inanely simple to solve with inpainting that I can't even begin to understand how you can try and defend it. Those problems also only mostly existed on older 1.5 models and, lmao, fucking pony. Illustrious/noob0.5 unironically have extremely solid implied inference where it actually assigns secondary characteristics pretty appropriately.
guys where do i find this optimizer, i searched but cant find it
>>8305912https://github.com/yangluo7/CAMEhttps://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_scripts_Backend/blob/main/custom_scheduler/LoraEasyCustomOptimizer/came.py
i can't even imagine what their nl caption model hallucinated up for all the e621 images
>>8305914https://e621.net/posts/4044643Describe this picture without sounding mad.
>>8305911ok, we'll patiently wait for you to fix and expand all the booru tags and provide the fixed datasets to the noob team. thanks for your great contribution anon
>>8305911I do agree NL is mostly useless. It might help the model learn in the early stages, if starting from base SDXL and it's never seen tags before.But stuff like "left arm up" wouldn't work, you'd have to continually rework booru tag names as people discover al the possible CLIP leaks. Like how "one mechanical arm" gives you two more than half the time, even on named characters who only have one. Or weird shit like "wall-mounted dildo" leaking into "head-mounted display".
>>8305917Is there even a good solution for these leaks aside from just changing the wording? I know originally, it was envisioned as a good thing, i.e. prompting "red hat" inherently using knowledge of the adjacent "blue hat", "white hat" and just "hat", but it feels like it's been creating just as many problems as it solves.
>>8305913ty! i am the guy using runpod and i had no luck trying to get lora easy training running in runpod, can i just install this optimizer into kohya? if so do you happen to know where optimizers are placed in the directory?
>>8305920If you use venvs - activate your kohya venv and dopip install came-pytorchAnd then use `came_pytorch.CAME` as your optimizer_type
>>8305920But I'd recommend to check your settings first, 12s/it doesn't look good. Even on my 4080 it takes about 8s/it at batch 4 AND grad accum 4.
>>8305916it wouldn't actually be super difficult for most non specific tags by using the exact same method they're using to get garbage grade NL captions.To further the specific example just pull all images in the dataset with "arm up" and then ask then automate asking the vision model "hey bro which arm is raised in this image?" and running another script to only pull out "left arm" and "right arm" and wow bang zoom straight to the moon. >>8305917>Like how "one mechanical arm" gives you two more than half the timethis could probably be fixed by, again, adopting specificity."left mechanical arm" and "right mechanical arm"wow amazing it might actually work. Worst case it shouldn't actually be any worse than it already is. And realistically with all of the 'leaking' it'll associate "left" and "right" really heavily to quadrant on output and could even sort itself on concepts that didn't get their specificity upped in training.>>8305919there "is" a way to mostly do it but it's a way that no one wants to do and would require massive autism.Key out every tag and replace them in datasets with unique strings. So shit like "blue hat" would be "b113" and "red hat" would be "r113" and use those to train on. And then you use a translation layer on the frontend to auto-replace tags in prompt with their associated string.It would be incredibly stupid and a royal pain in the ass but it should technically work.
>>8305921do i need to be within a directory to pip install it or can i just punch it into picrel? >>8305922yea i think fucked something with that gpu trying to install so many different things, so i started a new volume (cloud storage) and my first test iterations have been much better, not sure what i did to make it iterate so slowly on the last volume
>>8305923>Key out every tag and replace them in datasets with unique strings.We call this the astrakike method
>>8305919I don't know if there's a way to change only the tokenizer without messing with the TE itself.Come up with a special syntax telling it to treat the tag as a whole. So you'd prompt something like "red #eyepatch bikini#". Of course you'd have to do the same for your dataset, and do another finetune from scratch.And it still wouldn't solve issues of the dataset itself, like double peace sign "double V" being always tagged with single "V" as well.
I actually think NL would be beneficial, but only if they used short, concise captions mixed in with the tags. Based on lax still using things like "whimsical" in his examples, I am guessing they didn't do that
>>8305926Would have to be not just unique strings but unique tokens, otherwise you'll get the same leaking but totally unpredictable.
>>8305925>sd-webuiDo you use it? If so, go to the root directory, do source venv/bin/activateand then do pip install
>>8305926no because he did it in an extremely retarded way, didn't do it globally for _all_ tags and most importantly did not publish shit about it.You want to minimize token overlap and have the strings be as short as possible. His dumb ass used long as fuck strings covering multiple tokens that bleed all over the fucking place. I also don't think he did this at all knowingly or intentionally with any sort of plan in mind other than being a brainless faget.
>>8305923heres your 113 bleed instead bro
>>8305923Astralite was a true visionary...
>>8305931this may have gone over your head, but I was making fun of him for hashing anything at all. obviously he didn't do it with some genius plan in mind, the guy has an IQ level where it's a miracle he doesn't drown in a pool of his own saliva
man i love ai
>>8305936she should be expressionless
>>8305938why? she loves anal
i also love ai
>>8305936analbox?
How long til they get to point of failure where they agree to convert .50 to vpred? I think we need to accelerate this. How do we get them to add even more gpo and ces from e621 until the model collapses and we start fresh
>>8305941txt2image: https://files.catbox.moe/zm5b6m.pngimg2img: https://files.catbox.moe/1vhkux.png
>>8305935I know you're taking the piss with it, it's just also not a fully fair comparison since this idea, while pretty dumb, isn't anywhere near as stupid as what he did.
>horse skull
>>8305947picrel i genned "horse skull"
>>8305945that's fair, he remains the king of retardation, even as every local baker tries to give him a run for his money
how do i isolate plap plap text without getting other sound effects or other bleed
>>8305952just inpaint in post
>>8304727Awesome style. Box?
>>8305956is that the flim13 gyaru mom?
>>8305959why is it so blurry?
>>8305958huh?
>>8305961I fucking clicked the wrong file man I'm just gonna go to bed
>>8305944thanks bro
>>8305962masterpiece, best quality, very aesthetic, absurdres, depth of field, gloss, bedroom, indoors, BREAK(galko), long hair, solo, completely nude, after sex, lying, on back, on bed, breasts apart, sweat, cum in pussy, after sex, spread pussy, BREAKlooking at viewer, grin, teeth,<lora:GalkoXL:1>
>>8305963You promised a sexually harassed schoolgirl, anon
>>8305967its gone beyond sexual harassment at this point to be fairhttps://files.catbox.moe/xeq0tc.png
>>8305930>sd-webui>Do you use it?i believe so yea? isnt that picrel or whatever webui i boot up? sorry im retarded
>>8305960yes!
how normal is it for a man to film himself using sex toys with anime girl pictures attached to them, glaze them with cum and post it to a twitter with a non-insignificant audience? turns out one of the thread regulars is doing this and I don't know how to process this information
>>8305973sounds pretty normal for me
>>8305973and how exactly did you find this shit?
>>8305973I do this
>>8305970is that the hecken utsuho?based, love the style
>>8305973it's AYAKON
>>8305973How did you find me out, anon?
>>8305973explain further
>>8305978it's pony
>>8305973Bro .. are you meaning to tell me you've never charged your JO crystal with your buds...
>>8305973let me guess, it includes blacked shota?
>>8305984>blacked shotaBlacked as the shota is black... right?
>>8305973you can't just out to the jannys like this, they do it for free!
>>8305984no, touhou girls
>>8305985anon...
>>8305987this was to be expected desu
>>8305973Sounds nice, links?
>>8305987Based dinoart anon.
>>8305973>how normal is it for a manIncredibly transphobic to call neggles that.
i remember seeing some sort of fetish japanese girl on twitter who would walk around streets/trains in her full body modified latex bodysuit with catheter on and peeing in the bag in publicshame i forgot who that was
>>8305994gross.
>>8305992Awww geez Rick, I can't read his prompt. It's all fucked up and everywhere
>>8305996it's cum
>>8305992cumrag niggas really be like>let me set up a spaghetti chart for the whole of Shenzen's port logistics so I can make a 1girl, pov, on bed deep fried picture::skull::
>>8305976i stalk links and social accounts occasionally, look who's following who, links in bio etcbad habit but what can you do, cant help myself sometimeshe was following one of the other thread regulars on twitter and i recognized him
>>8306000just say mkbin anonie
>>8306001faggot
>>8306001holy kek, it's real
>>8305693wow amazing job anon
>>8305411I need reforge anon to add in 3m sde. I'm crying
post some touhous
>>8305492As soon as I found out No Brown didn't work on the vpred model I knew it was going to be terrible. No Brown NEVER lets you down on good models
>>8306001those toys look pretty good, i want to fuck reimu's tits too.
>>8305996i guess i might as well test my metadata export node on catbox script while i roll inpainting an anger veinhttps://files.catbox.moe/prrsbh.webp
>>8305960obviously...
>>8305994sounds sexy
>>8306011maybe webp's the problemhttps://files.catbox.moe/m2ykq9.jpeg
>>8306001holy based
>>8306013very, kinda sad it's lost media
>>8306014oh nvm, the webp works now but hung the first time i clicked it
>>8306001what a chad
>>8306001I don't see anything related, qrd?
>>8306001>cut cockamerica was a mistake
>>8306023He's the master of 2hu titties on twitter
>>8306025I blame jews
>>8306025>immediately focuses on his cock...anon?
>>8306019touhou community and its strongest soldier
>>8305973are you 15?no it's not normal, posting on 4chan or generating japanese cartoon porn isn't normal either, who fucking cares
>>8306030Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.The best minds discuss waifu smut.
>>8306028im gay
>>8306031best minds discuss which noob shitmix is the best
>>8306028Based (large penis, veiny penis, sagging testicles, twitching penis, erection, excessive pubic hair, steaming body:1.8) prompter
>>8306030>false equivalence
>>8306033Best minds do train shitmixes themselves
greatest minds stay on pony
>>8306033but which one is it JUST TELL ME ALREADY AHHHHHHHH
>>8306040based
>>8306040I-I-I'm nooooooodling outttGod thighstraps are hot
>>8306040>2hupumping
what is the name of this function in photoshop to morph body?don't have installed and can't find it in google
>>8306047liquify
>>8306001hot asf
>>8306049managed to find it, it was puppet warp
>>8306032Based, I browse /h/ for all the hot dudes and cum. If I was straight I'd go to /e/
>>8306061chopped off pinky...
>>8305848https://files.catbox.moe/n9pgl2.png
>>8304660need more of that over at kdg
>>8306061you should use a lower denoising strength in the hi-res>>8306068> chopped pinky> bellybutton of the dude> half of the abdoment of the girldenoising stregth to high indeed
>>8306068>>8306071My bad, I should have given it another look before posting such slop.
>>8305992
>>8306069pretty based aru
>>8306074angy shoulder
>>8306074pow di you put an anger vein on the shoulder?
Comfy seems neat for the first 10 minutes and then it just gets annoying because without looking it up you practically have to invent everything that's a simple checkbox/dropbox/canvas in WebUI/reForge. Can't imagine how complicated in-UI mask drawing for Inpaint would be, let alone Inpaint Sketch.t. day 1 WebUI, then forge, then reForge user
>>8306083mask inpaint is easy with impactpack, and there's a krita plugin but i havent used it
>>8306083>Comfy seems neat for the first 10 minuteswrong
I'm not interested in fully generating slop but is there some guide for making edits with free software?I'm a bit lost.
>>8306005I don't know what tf reforge anon has done, but it is widely more unstable than old forge and eats insane amounts of RAM. Old forge is uses like 10GB RAM, with reforge going up to 16GB for no fucking reason
>>8306087current local options are definitely not nearly as effortless as nai for editing, you're gonna have a really hard time as a noob considering you're trying to use sd3.5 checkpointwait 1-2 months there might be new good shit released for local though
>>8306074and oh fuck, great shame forgot the tail entirely
>>8305994>>8306016Something as extreme as that surely has been archived by at least one degenerate in this thread
>>8306099
>>8306087don't use SD 3.5 for one
>>8306087>using a cucked sfw model for nsfwwow someone's new
>>8305629thanks bwo, glad you noticed the post
>>8306102>degeneratehuh? this is /h/, not /d/. we just like girls having sex here, we're not freaks
>>8306115>this post was generated by pony
>>8305727analbox?
What are some of your favorite artists to use for a softer look?
>>8306122yd and modare as alwayshttps://mega.nz/folder/Vd8yTCTL#FEpX0epT6cAcMZQI-QuBAA/folder/wA9h2QwZ
>>8306122>for a softer lookShiny skin in negatives
>>8306122norzaalkemanubisbigrbearcrumblessweetonedollar
>>8306123>>8306124>>8306129ty anons
>>8305179https://files.catbox.moe/i8s9xs.png
>>8305661Knew i was forgetting a bug. You tried mantis girl?
any lolifag artists (besides as109 or alphonse) with big enough image count for brick shaped cunnies yet not borderline todcon?i'm trying to find something to offset too wide hips for other styles, but using as109 just overwhelm styles completely
>>8306134pumpkinspicelatte?
>>8306134null, Б
>>8305708>banging a normal girl>prone boning a dragon girls as her thick tail squirms as you start to cling tight to it to stop it from breaking your nose in horny thrashing as it starts to curl around your waist to keep you pinned in place No contest man
>>8306134Wagashi (dagashiya)
thanks>>8306141>>8306136>>8306135forgot about pumpkin, tested it earlier but probably because it was underbaked, but will try again
>>8306134ponsuke (pon00000), airandou, yukiu con
>>8306146nicethe one missing a tail should have a butt plug tail
>>8306146boggs?
>>8306146yum
so uhh, did anybody try to merge noob 1.0 (or it's shitmixes) with cosxl?
>>8306148ty, completely forgot about yukiu conbut really, prompting for anything other than basic anime girl is pain, all the lolifags have inconsistent datasets in comparison to gacha pinups
>>8306134Neg: kereno, anime801, opossumachine, teruki kumaShould get rid of the worst of it
>>8306123 newfag here, how do i use this?
>>8306151https://files.catbox.moe/8padvy.pngsame settings/tags for the raw gen
>>8306165open, look at the pics, see which artist you like, use them
what's with the infighting among lolifags? >children you're fapping to are 1 year younger which makes you a pedo! >it's called hebephilia bro, it's different!lmao shut up
Does Comfy have an extension like https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api/ ?
>>8306169Hebe enjoyers are fake lolicons, if they are not pre-pubescent, it's not a real loli
>>8306169trueall pedophilia is basedno discrimination allowed
>>8306162i even put loli in the negs altogether to get rid of too big head, but it does surprisingly not too much
>>8306169It's true thoughHebes are a different area altogether and have different appeal to loli
>>8305873https://files.catbox.moe/wu6hvg.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/79eip8.png>>8304727https://files.catbox.moe/z285i1.png
>>8306169What infighting? Bro is just asking for loli artists to offset illustrious/noobAI hag bias.
>>8306177its a bait
>>8306177>illustrious hag bias Skill issue
>>8306183It was a skill issue with pony. This time it's an issue of taste.
have you guys noticed all across different models there's this diagonal line of light and shadow over the imagedoes it have something to do with masterpiece tag perhaps?
>>8306190you mean like...perspective? uhh.....
>>8306191nah i mean like thisquick random example
>>8306169>>8306172>>8306175
>>8306195>Aliconhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZbWHIPMjqM
>>8306194you mean...the angle of the sun????? hello? do you fucking go outside??????????????
>>8306183yes, you can prompt loli on itcustomizing it to your own preferences is the problem>>8306195in, this case is about shitty tagging, not about "it is not lolicon, it is hebe"
>>8306199look at the background niggado you see those light patterns on anime art?this shit reeks of (ai-generated:1.8)
>>8306203if you don't want sunbeams neg it away
>>8306203did you think ai invented diagonal shadows or something?
over status?
>>8306203based retard
>>8306176thanks
>>8306083Just treat comfy like it's glorified diffusers with a crappy ui backend. >>8306086Retard.
>>8306203>do you see those light patterns on anime art?>https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=5700580>https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10784016>https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1404625>https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10918959>https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10873847>https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10858474>https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10846341>https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10890654i found these all in 5-10 minutes of browsing gelbooru for new artists to train a lora on
samefag status?
>>8306221good morning sar
>>8306222im indian
I like Indians. I think they are amazing people
>euge randomly deciding to play with natural language captions partway into the already precarious vpred conversioni'm going to fucking kill myself
>>8306229Yeah, they are great people
>>8306230great, just do it, fucking whiner
The copy paste schizo is back
>>8306230>lose 70% of compute power>start doing retarded experiments instead of playing it safeWhy?
>>8306230the best part is that they're going to keep training the TE because of it!
>>8306234Where?
turns out that the prey was everybody who wanted a good local vpred model
the problem with slopmixes i think is either zero or too much data in their training set. they're either not bothering with training, or they have too much data to caption properly (ie each image gets some manual attention) or shape the model's output too far beyond the mean value of slop. especially if they're using synthetic data which just creates a positive slopback loop
>>8306239Someone needs to bite the bullet and finally implement reinforcement learning from human feedback (RLHF) for captioning models.Since it's not possible to properly label millions of images, and we KNOW the "ground truth" booru tags are mediocre at best, the only way to improve on the current datasets is to make a captioning model isn't satisfied with the booru labels being the gold standard for accuracy.Honestly, when I found out that the "best" auto-caption models use the scraped booru tags as the ground truth I was amazed no one bothered to question any accuracy metrics.
>>8306238vpredator farts on freetard prey
Looking at the Touhou AI discord, why can't we just have Angel spearhead Noob training holy fuck, he's getting all the knowledge he needs and actually fucking processing it
Question, is CFG value really a real sensitive value to change image composition? I was testing on noob 0.75 some things and I could see how one seed that was giving me multiple views stopped generating multiple views as soon as I raised CFG 5 to 6I ask this because I don't remember pony being like this, not at all. I remember it doing whatever it wanted despite the CFG I was using, tbqh.
uh oh copypasta schizo meltie
>>8306241be the change you want to see
>>8306235jordach syndrome
Why can't someone (who isn't me) do all the hard work in preparing a dataset/training strategy in a very specific way for the next time there's a project with available compute who could make use of them?
Why did LAX's team decide to use months worth of H100 time (tens of thousands of dollars in compute) on a dropout strategy that Euge pulled out of his ass?
MUUUUHHH LLMs, don't ever forget that, chuddies!
>>8306251Because Euge is cute and it's hard to turn him down.
>>8306251Qrd on the strategy?
why can't they just
>>8306254it looks nothing like the dropout strategy angel recommended in the illustrious paper and they decided to drop all artist tags from images before 2019 for some reason
>>8306252Who is even interested in amateur shitbake LLMs when there's like thousand different corpo llms out there? What is the fucking purpose?
Meh. I tested Noob with a simple Miku and personally prefer the output from PrefectPonyXL. It feels like the model isn't ready for the big stage yet. Maybe a future version will convince me otherwise
I have cooked
>>8306255Nice, box?
>>8306257It's real fucking insane how dogshit decisions like this get fast tracked while stuff like V-Pred is gonna just be a conversion of the final model.
>>8306259stop using your braincells and asking questions
>>8306202boxo? i dig the style
>>8306263>>>/trash/
>>8306266>>8306270retard
>>8306263More of the handsome guy on the right?
>>8306271trashslopper
>>8306132creampiebox plz
It's okay guys, when vpred is finished and everything has calmed down a bit, LAX will announce the ExpertAI modelThat's why they're doing all the retarded shit now so they know what to avoid in the future, surely
We should probably comment on how artist tags are getting removed for works older than 2019 on Civitai, they need the backlash and bad publicity to actually listen to the community as it has been proven previously.
>>8306280pretty sure civitieets doesn't know about artist tags at all
>>8306257Didn't he revise the strategy for artist with a rank system a while back?
>>8306263Are you guys fat ugly greenoids irl?
>>8306286yes
>>8306286You're not?
>>8306280It was explained by multiple people to Euge directly how it might not necessarily be a good idea. LAX seems to consider 1.0 to actually be their 1.0, so I don't really see them going back and retraining with a better strategy. It is what it is.
>>8306273
>>8306291they're such a happy couple... thank you, anonie.
>train for 3000+ steps at batch size 6>still only one spot on each thigh in 90% of gens instead of one spot on each thigh and one spot on each hippain
>>8306291box?
>>8306297???
>>8306301https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/7377110
>>8306262it's nai
>>8306286whatz it to ya humie? dis iz da orky board
Reading the noob discord, what the fuck are they doing?Why are they wasting their time on natural language for the vpred version
>>8306311they are not very smart
>>8306261The eyes being puffier then the vagene is throwing me
https://civitai.com/models/929685>NoobAI-XL ControlNetEuge just released
>>8306311They are going to lose the GPUs very soon and are panicking about not getting to try and of their fun experimental ideas. Instead of sucking it up, and realize this is their final shot, they are throwing all of their stupid ideas on the wall to see if anything sticks.
>>8306311They want to pack as much shit (literally) as possible before they run out of compute.
>>8306269https://files.catbox.moe/yryzxh.png>>8306276https://files.catbox.moe/4lsmbw.png
>>8306300https://files.catbox.moe/hw36z9.png
>>8306261too much fkey
>>8306315do yourself a favour and use mistoLine_fp16.safetensors (2.5GB), with lineart preprocessor at 0.6-1.0 strength.I'll test this too, because why the fuck not
>>8306329it doesn't look like it at all
>>8306325Based
>>8306315So many questions...Why is Euge releasing it, he said the other team is working on controlnets and not him.Why is it for eps pred 0.5 if they love that stupid 1.0 so much? But vpred is of course converted from the worst slop ever.
>>8306332the shading does
>>8306336trust the plan 0.5 bros
>>8306314hot
>>8305647catbox?
>>8305116Hi, Momoura.
only momoura posts at aicg btw
>>8306315>>8306331update: works a treat, you can save as fp16 to halve the filesize:https://pastebin.com/yWEcVtL2
>>8306340Was surprised minigirl worked but it was hella inconsistent I wanted like pixie body job or holding the girl in one hand.
his name is CF-fag
>>8306329Its just a lora for an artist named Au_(D_Elete) i'm going to be posting it soon. I'm really happy with how it came out.catboxing cause not hentai.https://files.catbox.moe/ovhxf2.png
>>8306351kinda surprising since it worked pretty much the same on pony so I would have expected improvementguess there is not enough pictures of this
>>8306359I dont like this artist but thats really close to his artstyle so nice job anon
>>8306370Yeah the prompt for it is like koonagi or something and it's only got 300 or so on danbooru iirc
> Spend time and effort on fixing any obvious anatomical/composition mistakes in my centrifuge and g-force related images I've posted here and in and previous threads> Decide to upload to aibooru with all correct tags, (characters, copyrights, clothing, composition, meta tags etc.), sources, together with most of the metadata for generating the image.> Instantly downvoted within minutes> Pic relatedWhy are aibooru users like this? They call me weird, yet they are the ones posting bestiality, forced feeding images and underage girls getting plapped. I even got an earlier one removed because of a barely visible sixth finger, while they allow a post containing conjoined siamese twins. I'm starting to think they are conspiring against me.
>>8306377Your images are kind of gross. They're funny, but they're gross. How are you surprised by this?
>>8306359that looks real close, care to share your config anon?
>>8306377aibooru is shit fundamentally, basically no trafficfor how much work goes into upload -> tagging -> approval etc. it's just not worthpixiv and twitter are better for fetish stuff like thatthe highest voted stuff on aibooru is 1girl sloppa
>>8306377>underage girls getting plapped>posts shota x futaevery single time
>>8306380kekseethe retarded promptlet
>>8306377>make an image literally nobody finds hot except yourself>wooooooooooooooooow why was i downvotedgee boss, i dunno
With the news that noob vpred is using shitty joycaption NL and probably training the TE I think it's officially over. Noob 0.5 will remain the best version of noob unfortunately
>>8306378>>8306385My post was mostly meant as satire, I'm happy as long as they are approved and not deleted like last time. Best case is someone scrapes the booru in the future with my weird low score posts, which can be used as part of of a low quality/worst quality negative in a future fine-tune/model. >>8306380I do have a pixiv I post my stuff on, but I'm waiting till I get around 200 followers with my more "sane" and normal images before I drop my collection of G-force related imagery :)
>>8306379This is what I used, I edited one i got from another anon.https://files.catbox.moe/8jun0o.toml
>>8306389>https://files.catbox.moe/8jun0o.tomlthanks anon, by any chance do you know what these do? down_lr_weight = [ 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0,]mid_lr_weight = 1.0up_lr_weight = [ 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0,]block_dims = [ 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8,]block_alphas = [ 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625, 0.0625,]
>>8306398you are on a streak with those monster girls
>>8306398Why can't you be like normal guys? christjust fap to womenkys
>>8306397nta, but its a pretty old config,some anons made it a few days after pony came out. The theory is that the blocks/alpha config should make the lora learn as if it was a 128/128 dim/alpha one while only being 8/8, it worked as best as you possible can with ponys sepia and its a decent config for illustrious too
>>8306403> assuming most who post here are "normal"nothing wrong with being a little wacky and quirky :3also> nogen
>>8306034>erectgayfor me it's (flaccid, foreskin:1.3)
>>8306387holy cope post
>>8306405wow that's interesting, thanks for the explanation anon.
>>8306398I was with you til that head vagina or whatever. Absolutely concerning
>>8306411i think its supposed to be a venus flytrap
>>8306405it's so that it learns as if it was a 128/1 dim/alpha lora. it's not like that for a specific pony related setting, 128/1 was just the ratio that i used for SD 1.5 loras and then used for lower dim pony ones before deciding that it's actually bad and switching to 32:32. no clue if it's any good for illustrious
>>8306415why is it so furry
I still don't understand cfg
>>8306414NTA but I always used dim=alpha since sd1.5 times and never has failed me on sdxl.I tried some lower alphas in the past but it learnt like a lot slower if I remember correctly.
>>8306421Why is this post so blurry?
>>8306422your glasses, anon?
>>8306426They are made by NovelAI
>>8306421small dim is just retarded cope from retarded armchair theorists
>>8306413I get the intent it came out yabai instead of hot.
>>8306433small alpha too
For me, it's civitai's lora trainer with default parameters.
>>8306421>it learnt like a lot slower if I remember correctlyyeah you had to scale the LR if you used it. the only reason it existed was because sd-scripts had an issue with floating point precision early on so the dim/alpha multiplier was added in order to make the numbers bigger. i stuck with using it just because i figured out a good LR during that point in time but there hasn't been any actual reason to use anything other than 1:1 for almost two years now
>>8306411Nearly as concerning as having a huge veiny cock with enormous testicles in the middle of your genIf that's what you like though then I'm not going to stop you
Is there a depth map extension that works with forge and produces good results with anime style?
>>8306448I like to self insert
>>8306398More plant girl pics and plantbox? Love 'em.
>>8306397glad someone else explained it cause I have no clue, I just used the toml I was given.
>>8306452nta but it has stealth metadata, use scripts from the op
>>8306448You too.
>>8306460sorry i'm too lazy to manually check them and too scared to use something that only has 30 stars on github
>>8306463why is he abusing his cat like that
>>8306448nothing wrong with being a /h/omo
>>8306465cats enjoy being squeezed they are just very tsundere about it
>>8306465I would too if my cat looked like that.
>>8306433true that's why I train 4096 dim loras
>>8306470Based ahurahhack19
>>8306471just fine-tune?
>>8306471overkill, silly
>>8306463squeezebox?
>>8306470nice rod, would squeeze too
>>8306472what style is this? can I get a box?
>>8306479it's NAI
>>8306470unironically what would you do if cats did look like catgirls but it was still considered bestiality would you be able to contain yourself /hdg/
>>8306473The worst are the tangobat ones. My datasets are so lazy but they work, I need to clean the watermarks, patreon logos and other shit out and remake them.>>8306476https://files.catbox.moe/b8vqiu.png
>>8306448fyi he does like huge veiny cock with enormous testicles because he mainly posts on /d/ and /slop/ a lot so yeah it seems to be intended
I make sure to mix up lots of different penis lengths, looks, and various pubic hair arrangements into my images just to ensure that no one thinks I'm gay.
>>8306488I always get a smirk when I see aurahack watermark considering the meltdown he had about ai 2 year ago
>>8306490Still trying to balance out public hair on noob, excessive almost looks too gnarly with some artists and just pubic hair isn't enough
>>8306170https://github.com/bedovyy/ComfyUI_NAIDGenerator
/hdg/ -> /mgg/
>>8306376Assuming you're the same anon that made the Scylla tentacle girl genConsistent kino
>>8306417Box?CFG is just the guidance scale. Higher values mean the model will "try" to follow the prompt more closely. There is often a tradeoff with image quality the higher you go.
>>8306504Very noice, thanks.
>my hentai posts get deleted>all this aco slop staysI am being conspired against.
>>83065xxwhy is it so blurry
any anti long torso and anti long neck loras for noob?
I wonder why...
>>8306532stop using noob
where are you literal retards getting the idea noob is training TE again? they never claimed this, the only person who even brought it up was EPIC. they also said Euge's planned drop out strategy wasn't used, I'm pretty sure that was just a theory on his part and he needed the warnings people gave him. LASTLY, Euge just acknowledged noise offset is fucked in their 1.0 version, so there's a hopeful chance they are working on fixing things or, if we're truly blessed, returning to prior checkpoints
>>8306536>needed the warnings heeded*
Since I am a genner now, I am allowed to have an opinion.My first opinion being: butt.
My second opinion:Imminent anal sexo.
>>8306536The control-net seems to have been trained on 0.5 so fingers crossed they went back maybe. I am probably coping kek
>>8306536they did use that dropout strategy before and only stopped because of the meltdown over it. as for the TE being trained that's a natural extrapolation from LAX's comments, but if you don't believe it (just like some people didn't believe that they didn't freeze the TE after 0.75) you'll know soon enough
>>8306536This is one of several definite confirmations that this general is being relentlessly spammed by EPIC and his friends.Whatever retarded idea that comes to his head is gonna get reposted, samefagged and confirmed by several "anons".It's unironically over. Whatever hopes you had for independent conversations on /hdg/ are gone now. Everything is gonna be under his supervision one way or another. Time to let it go bros
>>8306536where can I find this discord? I wanna keep up with the drama, but I only found laxhar one
>>8306545how true is this
>>8306536>>8306544the TE was not frozen from 0.75 to 1.0 but it was frozen for v-pred
why is it so fried
My third opinion:Merging the Itercomp checkpoint: (https://huggingface.co/advokat/IterComp_safetensors/tree/main)Into the NoobAI 1.0 vpred test checkpoint + using spo lora + enabling CFG rescale gives some nice results.You can use this comfyui workflow to do the merge between itercomp and noob (just drop and drag into comfy):https://files.catbox.moe/444wdi.jsonI hope my opinion wasn't too wild.
>>8306554classic anime art was fried
>>8306556I hecking love merging 3dpd checkpoints into my anime
dozo
>>8306554it's not fried, the colors just pop
>>8306560jeet pipeline never stops
>>8306544how is it a natural extrapolation? sdxl TE already knows NL, it doesn't need to be taught it twice
1.0 is a lost cause, so they might as well be throwing whatever at it since anything will be an improvement
>>8306556cfg rescale rapes colors compared to apg, imo
>>8306560Do you have any better checkpoints you would recommend over Itercomp? (Genuinely curious). Itercomp in my understanding is just a slightly better SDXL in my opinion.But also I'm not allowed to opinions rn because now I'm a nogen.
>>8306566It all flows into the Ganges
illu is all you need
>NovelAI>isn't actually that novel, just an SDXL finetune>Pony>no one actually uses it for ponyshit>Illustrious>relatively few people actually use it>Noob>isn't actually that noob-friendly
>>8306546it's the artiwaifu discord but it's really only used for autistic discussions about training and euge occasionally chiming in after being harassed with several @s
>>8306514https://files.catbox.moe/lo1yx3.png
>>8306571>cfg rescale rapes colors compared to apg, imoI noticed the same thing happening when I enabled it - what are some settings you would recommend over the default ones in reForge for using APG? I never could find any that made any sense.
>>83065780.5 was noob friendly and then they raped it with furshit
>>8306579oh man I was blind. I looked there a few times, but didn't see it in the description. turns out it's not in the descriptions
>>8306584Default settings for everything except scale, which you should set to 6-7. The default 9 is overkill.
I'm just numb now, don't care anymore. Local will never have a good model. By the time local catches up to NovelAI, paid services will be utilizing better and updated architectures.
+15 anals
>>8306407Imagine not liking monster girls. Dude's on fucking /h/ AND /hdg/ of all places telling people that this anime girl in practically cosplay is somehow not a woman while implying that "normal" anime girls that still look like alien caricatures of humans are real women.
>>8306589Yeah colors seem to be much more saturated (in a good way) compared to before where I was using rescale (pic related). Thank you anon.Also my fourth opinion, now that I'm gennin' again and I'm allowed to have one: pineapple belongs on pizza.
>>8306595we get it, you fuck dogs. keep it to /trash/ please.
>>8306545I've genuinely noooticed that whatever EPIC gets worked up about on discord starts getting spammed here
>>8306598the causality runs in the other direction. EPIC isn't even capable of doing anything besides parroting the first opinion he sees
>>8306599that's almost all of /h/
>>8306599a good point honestly
Guys putting only pineapple pizza in the positive prompt gives me this:https://files.catbox.moe/cot66z.pngWhat gives? Is there an artist that is named similarly?
what if they did 1.0 to appease the retards and casuals and Euge will continue to release based 0.5 assets for those truly in the know? how deep is my cope, how over is it for me?
>>8306606you have a terminal copium overdose, i'm sorry
>>8306553>but it was frozen for v-predi thought 1.0 or any subsequent models would be convereted to v-pred. are they training a separate vpred model from 0.5 or something?
>>8306606They're losing compute and are fucking around with experiments while doing their last ditch effort for vpred (on the 1.0 version).It's over.
>>8306601you jest but if this was actually the case this place would be guzzling furry cock the moment noob 1.0 released like civitai did (and as much as shitposters want to falseflag otherwise it didn't)
>>8306612but then why did they make CN for 0.5 and not 1.0...
>>8306613>the moment noob 1.0 released0.75 and 1.0*
>>8306604Why did you fry your pizza
>>8306611No, vpred conversion is continued from 1.0. It seems they started from an eps checkpoint that was trained slightly further than 1.0.
>>8306621ok so it's as i thought. that anon's wording made it seem like as if they decided unfreezing the TE was a mistake and continued off an earlier version training with vpred. what a shame, hopefully it turns out better than 0.75 and 1.0 at least
>>8306623it's using joycaption captions now so don't count on it
>>8306625source? that's a pretty big claim and i couldn't find any proof in the thread and nobody has posted a screenshot from discord with anyone from the teaming saying this
>>8306626>>8305862
https://files.catbox.moe/t51ssa.png
>>8306628surely it's just experimental.right? surely
>>8306622rare gen
>>8306630haha...
>>8306629terrible perspective/anatomy
>>8306627
>>8306629multidiffusion does nothing with cfg++ samplers btw
>>8306633I'm mad at the penis not being invisible
>>8306635thank you for the information
Is there any way to train SDXL LoRAs without using GPU?
>>8305862it's literally over how the fuck are they incapable of just staying course instead of introducing more experimental jank"we only have one shot so we have to stick with what works" my ass
>>8306640purchase that delicious buzzzzzzz
>>8306642I unironically would if their trainer wasn't locked into prodishit
>>8306640colab workbook
>>8306646Do I need to pay for their premium or whatever? I used to train a 1.5 SD LoRA there for free, but that was already a year ago
>>8306647No, but you'll probably need to interrupt and resume your training since you'll hit the cap rather early.
>>8306652OkI would appreciate it if anyone could send me latest good SDXL training guide or settings
>>8306633its raita
>>8306661that explains but does not excuse
>>8306553Wait wtf? That's actually a big deal. There may be hope for a 1.5 to be good if they kept training with it properly frozen and kept NL tags out
>>8306661I wish there was a way to get his shading/faces without nuking your anatomy.
>>8305862>>8306628>>8306630>>8306632
>>8306631Another rare gen
>>8306553this was before they started training with the NL captions
>>8306665train a lora then edit the block weights
get in the cumbath anon with your waifu while you're both enjoying your vacation
>>8306663faggot
>>8306665just train a lora that only trains the last timesteps
>>8306673cope
>>8305862when this doesn't go well the discord troon that was posting on here about how we should let the experts bake and to not question these decisions is gonna be real silent
>>8306672who's cum is it
>>8306680all mine
>>8306669>>8306676I'd love to if>I had a GPU with more than 8GB VRAM>I knew how to train a lora >all the guides about training loras weren't outdated, written by civitards or hidden in some random github commit discussion
>>8306681I'm not getting into that bath then
>>8306684i started training loras when there wasn't a guide to do so and ended up teaching myself python, git, and then some. chatgpt is a powerful aide; i'm sure you can figure it out. lack of compute sucks though, i agree
>>8306678that was unburdened and he probably killed himself
>>8306680¯\_(ツ)_/¯It's a pepperoni secret.
anons... what would you like to see?
>>8306696blacked 2hus
>>83066960.5 vpred conversion
>>8306684you can train SDXL loras with 8gb vram, you'll just have to be conservative in your settings (ie. batch 1, lower dim/alpha)
>>8306696the best model from 50 years in the future traveling back in time into my computer
>>8306698If b-chama said she wants it, then I do too.
>>8306696A printed photo album of the top 100 Illustrious artist mixes that cater specifically to my tastes
>>8306703your wish is granted, but your computer can't run it due to mechanical upgrades from the future the model relied on
>>8306667strangely erotic, maybe feet are growing on me
>>8306707I was expecting that but I couldnt be bothered to type that I wanted the working environment it come with it
ok but what DON'T you want to see anons?
>>8306708I blame ai for turning me into a footfag
>>8306696sexy titties and cute girls
>>8306709your wish is granted, but the advanced technology can't be run without energy/fuel advancements from the future
>>8306708my man, remember it's not all about the feet, but also who the feet belongs to. ;)
>>8306710I don't want to see people being mean to each other anymore
>>8306715this, every body part of an anime girl is erotic
>>8306720kino
>>8306714well shit cant believe we stopped using electricity
>>8306562box? i like the mix
>>8306734https://files.catbox.moe/9pfkev.png
>>8306697which one?
>>8306742appreciated
>>8306488>>8306720box?
>>8306711box? almost perfect, ashame about the guy's entire upper body being in the sand and probably in rigor mortis
is it possible to install CAME optimizer to kohya or do i have to use Lora easy training scripts in order to use it?
>>8306744Ran and Yukari
>>8306749someone already made a pull request to have it added (probably works fine but only one way to find out for sure) so just checkout that pr
>>8306746https://files.catbox.moe/rwpx8x.png>>8306711lolhttps://files.catbox.moe/gu0g8h.png
>>8306720this position is so hot in art but i can't even begin to imagine how awkward it would be in real life. most dudes don't have 8' dicks to get good leverage, and the pubic area is too narrow to go balls deep.
>>8306758every standing up position I have ever tried has been disappointing
can someone pass me a good toml for making a noob lora, (not using CAME)
>>8305410Same here, too much I want to train. Hoping the thread will return to some normalcy when it's out though.>>8305973I'm sorry.
>>8306753ngl both are kinda ugly but i'll cook
>>8306758I've seen quite a few porn scenes with this position, I think it's reverse piledriver, but yeah doesn't look comfy lol
are your steps aligned?
>>8306766They are but only at 32
>>8306757>>8306747oops meant for you
>>8306758>>8306765at least for porn this seems gayer than just standard piledriver. i don't want to look at a dude's asshole>>8306768thanks chief
>>8306766my uniform is sgmmy steps are alignedmy automatic1111 is locked and loaded
anos I love finally to gen artists I want (99% of them) by just using prompts, instead of using lora for every onewondering what is the cutout of artist posts on noob where they don't work anymore. 50 posts?
>>8306787It depends entirely on the artist, some artists are also pretty badly represented due to danbooru shenanigans
>go to try and upload a lora to civit>noob still hasn't been listed as an option under the "suggested resources" menu>decide to not bother trying to upload a lora to civit anymoreit technically isn't a problem for me but I'd rather not share it there at all than have retards misusing a lora trained on a specific version of a specific finetune.also to be clear I'm not even talking about the "base checkpoint" thing - I'm talking about the secondary "resource" which will create a link out to the preferred model under the model description, as seen herehttps://files.catbox.moe/oujyn2.png
>>8306787being able to prompt an artist doesnt mean its goodalso I was trying to do the "whispering_for_nothing" artist, well you can guess how hard the bleed is for him
>>8306793hyper goes to /d/
>>8306793I see 2 huge futa ball, do they get clapped by the guy ball?Nice
>>8306795He's not that fat anon...
>>8306791>noob still hasn't been listed as an option under the "suggested resources" menuIt shows up for me.https://litter.catbox.moe/88x2bp.png
>>8306797fat mons played some tricks. >>8306746https://files.catbox.moe/fdyivb.png
>>8306203Uh.. schizo-kun? Your response? >>8306220
>>8306799>it shows up on the SECONDARY "add resources" option, that only exists after you've uploaded and submitted the lorathat is actually retarded.It's also worthless since you can't specify a model version like you can on the one you get presented with before uploading.Whoever the fuck is doing backend on civit should honestly be fired and they should just burn the building and restart this shit from scratch.https://files.catbox.moe/e8rs1m.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/g7c493.pngbecause this shit is fucking dumb.
>>83067532hoes delivery
>>8306812box sar?
>>8306805I wish that was the biggest issue with civitai's backend, I'm sure that this summer it was out of commission more often than it was usable, at least for me. But it's not like ranjeet12497441 complaining about your NoobAI lora not working on the SDXL shitmix he uses for Indian celebrities deepfakes should impact you.
>>8306813its the tianamen bing ding guy
>>8306817>no boxfuck you bloody mothar bitch
>>8306812nice eyes
>>8306812>no armpit hair>breasts not sagging down to her belly button>no hard brown nipplesThat's not Yukari
How's that modern/recent/newest thing work?
>>8306821That sounds more like Yuckari to me!
pleeeease pass me a good TOML for noob lora's that doesnt use CAME
>>8306824so true
>>8306812Fellow black bruddas.. our thoughts on /hdg/'s fair representation of us?
>>8306816kek
>>8306825prodigy is all you need
>>8306816This says a lot about our society.
>>8306845can you provide the rest of the settings? im retarded
>>8306815oh yeah the site is really fucked. But something like that means they've got a lot of things that are really mismanaged which increases overhead by a lot. Both of those "add resource" functions should be calling to the same database and, ideally, have the same exact UI options/implementation. That there's a query mismatch means that they aren't hooked up to the same database, that one of the databases is lagging behind severely. If I were to guess further I would guess the one on the model page where it does show up is just hooked up directly to the "regular" database you query through when you use the standard search bar and that the one you get pre-upload was intended to be more feature rich and probably has a manual approval(or, worse, a manual addition) requirement and they haven't bothered touching it for a while.it's all to the point that burning it all down and rebuilding from scratch may very well be more efficient and better use of time/money than trying to navigate and append the existing code.
>>8306825please CAME sir
>>8306852box? i like the style
I think my femboy artists look best on .75 of all things, which makes me wonder if I'm doing something wrong
>>8306864some artists got a noticeable improvement on .75it doesn't change the model being irreversibly fried, but some artists are just plainly better on it. Some are also significantly worse, however.
how big should my data set be to copy an artstyle?
>>8306873at least 1k pictures in 4k
>>8306873300+ pictures all at 1024x1024t. civitai pro
>>8306864I continue to use 0.75 despite being told otherwise because I am a creature of habit and also I still like what I am making
>>8306873between 1-10000 image at 512x512 and using prodigy is ideal for data set sir
>>8306875>>8306876>>8306879why are u guys fucking with me im just new :(
>>8306878realizing now this dude is all goddamn legsim editing him to be tiptoed what da hell
>>8306883doesnt seem that weird to me honestly
>>8306882number doesn't matter as much as quality and diversity. collect as many diverse and high quality images as you can
>>8306873real answer:it doesn't actually matter a whole lot. You can get good style lora's with datasets of only 16. You can get workable ones from datasets of only 6. And you can get absolutely garbage ones from datasets of 75+.The important part is that the dataset is fairly consistent in the style you're trying to capture. Believe it or not, artists use MULTIPLE STYLES! They can even use multiple sub-styles within their normal stylistic works! You want to trim datasets down to an easily digested, condensed sample set of the qualities you specifically want to capture from the artist.I've gotten to a point where the goal is to curate to 16 good samples at minimum and ideally up to around 32. More can be okay but it pays to think about images that might not be as good for training as others and start pruning.
Since we are talking about training. Has anyone tried training at higher than 1024x with illust/noob yet?
>>8306893No. Test and report back
lmao
>>8306882Real answer is that you need only a fairly limited sample, around 30, but they have to be consistent in style and possibly have diverse subjects and compositions. Don't just dump the whole danbooru tag or crop from a single doujin.
>>8306890>>8306891ty guysi currently have a data set of around 150, i'll try trimming it down and really cutting the fat>>8306891do you have a toml you could possibly share? i struggle most with the lora generation settings as i dont really know what the settings mean
>>8306891nta but I noticed some lora help with position or concept on pony, do you need to include a variety of pose or even weird one like upside down to help the ai not be too retarded?
>>8306906>>8306389
>>8306885it's pretty common for objects to get extended when intersected by somethingi remember a post a few weeks ago of a perspective shot where the girl's eyes were alien-like because a dick was between themanyway my autism wins
astraGOD please...
>>8306911>retrain from scratch with the flux 16 ch vae why not just use ostris's vae instead
>>8306761https://files.catbox.moe/xdhqpr.toml
>>8306918probably need to lower LR significantly though, this was for pony
>>8306774Box please, how did you get that pose?
>>8306890>>8306891quick question for you guys, in my dataset would i want shots of the tops of characters heads like this? or only portrait shots
>>8306915because the vae power rankings arecogview3 > flux >= aura > sd3 > ostris >>>>> sdxl > sd1.5 novelai >> sd1.5 mseostris is not gonna make the training any easier anyways, the adapters are just cope
>>8306911>astraCHAD is the first baker who'll actually use a 16ch VAEhow the turn tables...
>>8306911all that effort to hash artist and anime characters out and get another /aco/ filth generatorwao
>>8306921https://files.catbox.moe/ss2rr0.pngThat pose is a process, there's arched back, upside-down, a bunch of orgasm related tags, etc. It's consistent, though. I get that pose pretty much every time.
>>8306935>olympusxl-v3sir... your prescribed noob / illust model?
>>8306928don't forget that it took him 6 versions to get a barely functional model. it's a lot more likely that he fails miserably and no one bothers with it again
>>8306939looking forward to your cope in 3 months
>>8306937https://civitai.com/models/350642/olympus-xlIn the future, you can also just plop the hash in civitai search.
>>8306907as long as it's not all 1girl, standing, samepose bullshit(read: as long as you're not training on takeuchi) it's usually fine. You want variation but you should be focusing on style characteristics more than anything else.>>8306922You generally want to avoid things that will confuse the fuck out of the model. Something like that isn't super awful since it can be described with "facing down, looking down, eyes closed" but it's probably not ideal, either.
>>8306940I want him to succeed so more people move away from sdxl. I just think he's too retarded to actually do it
>>8306946auraflow isn't really able to be ran locally very well.no one is moving on to shit.
>>8306947that would be true before flux, but now it can be quantized with ggufsthe only thing i would worry about is astralite underestimating that a 16ch vae + T5 is going to make the training more expensive and failing it because of it
>>8306951isnt it better to just not train T5, thought the thing was on the brink of exploding as is
Gotta say bros.. I was flipping between cyberfix1 & personalslop going forward. Cyber1 is capable of lighting whereas personalslop has better knowledge. It's so goddamn bright though. But I gave complexnoobv2 a run and.. could be the perfect medium. Still running a few more tests with saved prompts but a promising early outlook.
>>8306911>BTFO'd all of local for 8 months straight with a model trained on 2xa100, to the point that it took 16xa100 + 32xh100 to dethrone him>will do the same with a model trained on 8xh100 on a much more expensive architecturehow does he do it?
>>8306953thats the thing, noone has tried either one yet on a nsfw/booru datasetmaybe its necessary to trainmaybe notbut either way its going to be more expensive if you guess wrong and/or training is needed
>>8306955By living rent free in /hdg/'s head.
>>8306955Still not even close to Jordach level who is gonna btfo everyone by baking his model with tree dead corpse
>>8306960the orientation of those slap marks means it's not the guy holding her, it's some third partyeither way, can you imagine missing her ass and hitting cock and/or balls instead, you're playing a dangerous game anon
>>8306943ty! should all my images be at least 1024,1024 resoultion?
>>8306969kek gave me a chuckle
>>8306969the same red scratches on her ass are on his balls
>>8306969>>8306980deepest lore
>>8306969>>8306980>>8306981IT WAS ME, AUSTIN. IT WAS ME ALL ALONG!
>>8306971you want them to be a minimum 2048 combined pixels between height/width. You can go under but I wouldn't recommend doing so by much(it'll automagically upscale and that may not work super well). You also usually don't want absurdres stuff that grossly goes over, since the automated downscaling can introduce some issues to the linework.
>>8306983thanks! im training it on retro anime so im relying on high quality screencaps, i want to preserve the film grain and overall quality of the image so ill make sure its over the 2048 like you said, i tried upscaling some of my lower res images and it totally lost all the film grain and retro aesthetics
>>8306983>since the automated downscaling can introduce some issues to the lineworkcan't you just increase the bucket size or something
>>8306980lol
>>8306452https://files.catbox.moe/evy8cb.png
https://mega.nz/folder/ctl1FYoK#BYlpywutnH4psbEcxsbLLgadded cheshirr (noobvpredtest)added ireading (noobvpredtest)added onono imoko (noobvpredtest)added yonchan (noobvpredtest)
>>8307005does vpred test loras work on normal noob? (0.5 and above?)
>>8307009yeah
>>8306935Thanks
>>8307000Post the slime girl one
>>8307011they shouldn't if they were trained correctly
>>8307024NTA but they shouldn't work on non vpred models?
>>8307024the only noob vpred loras i've found that do not work on the eps versions are ones trained without noise offset, which you're not supposed to use when training vpred anyways
>>8307025re-read my post and what I replied to>>8307026yeah, if they're trained correctly they shouldn't work on eps
how do we feel about this shitmix?https://civitai.com/models/820208/obsession-illustrious-xlanything better?
>>8307027>yeah, if they're trained correctly they shouldn't work on epswhy not. unless everyone is training them incorrectly, this is not true
>>8307028Uuhhh
>>8307031this, by itself, does not mean anything if it's used for stabilizing/aesthetic tuning
>>8307029>unless everyone is training them incorrectlythey are. every lora ive ever seen in my life that i havent baked myself is underbaked and shit
>>8307034what is this bait? i just grabbed like 5 vpred loras from different sources to corroborate and they all work with eps
>>8307031>ai already replaced artists and it's the best thing ever my 1girl gens shit on every twixer ""artist"" :))>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T USE AI SLOP AS TRAINING DATA YOU ARE RUINING THE MODELuh oh hypocrisy
what program do you guys recommend to check images like this size and resit is a X/Y grid at 200x4
>>8307039My AI gens are masterpiecesEveryone else's are slop
>thread schizo is sperging out
no i'm the thread schizo and I am doing fine
>>8307031quality and direction of selection?higher quality of captioning? certainly automated with minimal manual attention when that dataset that largecompute? unspecified on page probably not many epochs without a 4090 or rentalbut most all showcase? pretty minimal improvement over 1.0
>>8307044and oh, i thought it said 50k danbooru 10k something elseit's synthetic data, it's slop
>>8307040web browsers or gimp have been the most reliable for me
>>8307040qview
>>8307017https://files.catbox.moe/laqev4.png
>>8307026>the only noob vpred loras i've found that do not work on the eps versions are ones trained without noise offsetmeant to say the ones trained with noise offset. only those don't work with eps
my beta versions of personal shitmix have been lousy, guess i could start experimenting on the huggingface vpred checkpoints
how do you even use this APG stuff? or is reforge implementation of it just fucked?
>>8307028For me? cyberfix v1 and complexnoob v2
>>8307047okay qview is pretty good and responsive for images this size, thanks anon>>8307046my web browser got really slow with 1GB images, but gonna check gimp, thanks
>>8307055it works but it requires a lot of skill
>>8307070Where is she going?
>>8307070skill box?
>>8307070Damn shes a midget
buried treasure lol
>>8307060never gen koyanskaya again
>>8307087
>>8307088gen more koyanskaya
>>8307088
>>8307091midget torso
>>83070551. use a lighter negative prompt2. set apg weight to 6-73. turn it on
>>8307082that's a man
>>8307093apg weight? the extension was updated a couple of days ago to upstream
pls share your best noob/illustrious toml i am cooking
>>8307095Monster girl anon with another bangerBox?
>>8307101redeem your favorite sir
>>83070934. use euler a
>>8307102Wait nvm I'm retarded there's metadata
>>8307103sir i need more pls sir
slop.png
>>8307049thanks, i love slime girls
>>8307049Why is a plant extracting the semen from a human male?
>>8307110Refrain from asking further questions
>>8307110Venus Dick Trap
does this mean we'll get ip adapter for noob?someone tell euge
>>8307095Anon, seriously curious here: Have you tried posting this -Good Stuff- in the /d/ thread? If the answer is yes, What was their reaction? If not, It's OK, don't even -bother- posting there.
>>8307114Nevermind. Found it out for myself. They liked it. Still gotta say that are brave, anon. They have been quite hostile to non futa in the past.
https://files.catbox.moe/w8i49r.png>>8307116Yeah I did one but that thread is 95% futa and I don't want to go between multiple boards
why don't we have a /b/ hetero hentai ai thread?
>>8307118there is literally nothing stopping you from making one
let's see if metadata data comes through
>>8307122k 404, looks like catbox script renamed the file extensionhttps://files.catbox.moe/d6b3th.jpeg
>>8307122Would have if it didn't get changed from .jpeg to .jpg. I probably should add better error handling to the userscript though.>>8307125Are you sure? I don't think I made it touch the filenames at all.
>>8306832>>8306838bocchibox?
>>8307121>not using https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/alcohol_carton tagngmi
>>8307126the script gave it catbox_d6b3th.jpgthis link is correct >>8307125 and loads the picture
>>8307121This pic is particularly hot because it could happen to someone lucky enough to find a pretty flat petite girl. box?
>>8307121Box?
>>8307104Man, that guy's submission game is awful.
>>8307129I can't test with your example since I can't post dup images, but I downloaded and uploaded now, and it retained .jpeg in the filename.
>>8307133maybe i need to update something, im using base 4chanX and catbox script 3.7.5
im not usng a 4chanX fork because the one i tried didnt work with the catbox button
https://mega.nz/folder/NkxlXTIA#MIP-0odYmNw8B6LXit6ldg4 images on 1500 artist comparison on noob 1.0 - personalmixGot top 1500 danbooru artists and ordered them by most to less post count, while also having at least 200 posts (did it with a python script with the danbooru api)A lot missing but wanted to use the PC, took about 3-4 hours on 2x4090, will prob add other grids sometime.One 4090 crashed (2nd grid) so 2a image has the missing artists from the 2 grid.
https://files.catbox.moe/a8waof.png
>>8307133are you using a specific 4chanX fork? im not attached to the base one in particular
where the fuck do i adjust epochs using this?????
>>8307143No, I'm using ccd0 1.14.21.7, which is like several years outdated but still works. 4chanX version shouldn't matter since the only API I really use is for when the thread is refreshed.
>>8307144max training timechange steps to epochcome on, man, click all the thing you see first
>>8307144have you tried scrolling down
>>8307130>>8307131https://litter.catbox.moe/yvuzv9.png
>>8307146then maybe it's my browser, brave
>>8307139how did you make the decision to compose 800mb images instead of uploading 1500 images sorted by name
>>8307148nevermind, seems i'm blind too
>>8307147oh okay thank you, im actually manually importing the settings by hand into my kohya bc i cant figure out to get this gui running in runpod, i still have epochs in kohya, do i just leave it at 1 and training steps at 1000?
>>8307139>1 gig per imageanon.......
>>8307154because i forgot how to enable sub images when creating the grids and this helps me to rank the artists easily without changing images (like bad, good, very good, etc)
>>8307139images don't work.
>>8307152Just tested in Brave and it works fine.
>>8307158yeh rip, but for ranking the artists it saves me headaches, uploaded it so people can check as wellas one anon said >>8307047, qview works fine for these
>>8307124This is one of the best ones so far. I love when a girl on top pushes on a guys face, but genning it is super rng. Pic related
>>8307157you only have to set either the epochs or the stepsby the way, how much are you paying for runpod?
>>8307162then idk
>>8307160i think the preview doesn't work (except 2a one which is just like 100 artists)the rest is 200 each, so too big. my bad here as other anons mentioned
>>8307165so should i set epochs to 0? and too much, i just got into SD so im just dipping my toe in the water, using runpod bc i have a shit amd card
>>8307167No. They're unviewable after downloading.
>>8307168i mean set them to whatever you had with kohya
>>8307150Foot box?
huh are you sure? downloaded them and opened fine on qview and windows image default thing. on the latter it took a while to load though, and it's kinda bugged
>>8307171?im trying to copy a tomls settings to my kohya, but since training steps seems to be one in the same with epochs using lora easy trainer, im unsure what to do
>>8307173oops meant for>>8307170
>>8307173nta but qview works. can you post a single gen with the metadata?
>>8307178you mean the prompt used/catbox? sure no problem, 1 sec to gather them
>>8307178>>8307180okay uploaded the base images to the mega which have metada, but also on catboxhttps://files.catbox.moe/rda3yh.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/vxgz6i.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/68any5.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/93offr.pngAlso sadge free accout limit2024-11-09 01:49:19,369 - INFO - Reached max pages limit (50)Fetching artists: 50page [00:11, 4.40page/s, artists=5000, min_posts=50]2024-11-09 01:49:19,370 - INFO - Retrieved 5000 artists with 50+ posts2024-11-09 01:49:19,370 - INFO - Found 5000 artists2024-11-09 01:49:19,370 - INFO - Top 5 artists by post count:2024-11-09 01:49:19,370 - INFO - - banned_artist: 84638 posts2024-11-09 01:49:19,370 - INFO - - ebifurya: 5869 posts2024-11-09 01:49:19,370 - INFO - - hammer_(sunset_beach): 5399 posts2024-11-09 01:49:19,370 - INFO - - haruyama_kazunori: 5229 posts2024-11-09 01:49:19,370 - INFO - - itomugi-kun: 4514 posts
cfg 5 is lacking in detailscfg 7 is friedwat do
>>8307192come on bro, the answer is right there
>>8307192only way is to double down with cfg 20
>>8307192>cfg 5 is lacking in detailsfix your prompt
>>8307192rescale cfg could be an option to use higher cfg but you lose colours, but really 5 is missing details? which model?
>>8306536lmfao i never said they were training te in vpred, i "asked" if they were since they are using NL this time.i dont even use 4chan i just come here once a week
>>8307200>>8307198well okay, not details, it seems like even extreme emphasis is doing very littlenoob personal
>>8307202I chose the impossible. I chose CFG++ 2
>>8306020>>8306020>please use my threadthey really do not want to learn
>>8307206Who are you talking about, bro?
guys what is wrong with this arg line "weight_decay=0.4 betas=0.95,0.98" i keep getting errors when running training
>>8307217How about posting the error message?
>>8307219oh sorry here it is..! im using this toml >>8306397 but i manually input all the settings bc im a retard "ValueError: not enough values to unpack (expected 2, got 1)Traceback (most recent call last): File "/venv/bin/accelerate", line 8, in <module> sys.exit(main()) File "/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/accelerate/commands/accelerate_cli.py", line 47, in main args.func(args) File "/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/accelerate/commands/launch.py", line 1017, in launch_command simple_launcher(args) File "/venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/accelerate/commands/launch.py", line 637, in simple_launcher raise subprocess.CalledProcessError(returncode=process.returncode, cmd=cmd)subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['/venv/bin/python3', '/workspace/kohya_ss/sd-scripts/sdxl_train_network.py', '--config_file', '/workspace/version5/model/config_lora-20241109-062106.toml']' returned non-zero exit status 1."
>>8307217I can't remember wtf you have to change with betas to make it work but it's something stupid like it wants a very specific format like >betas=(0.95, 0.98)or something I'm on mobile and can't check right now but the kohya sdscripts GitHub page might have it in its how to faq thing
>>8307221And now post the toml/easyscripts screenshot
>>8307222yea i've been tinkering... no luck so far>>8307223here you go, i think this is it, right? this is the toml that gets spit out after the error is produced
I'm stupid only now that I realized that 80% of the loras I used on the pony work on the NoobAI-XL, I'm testing loras made by fusho and it works well!https://huggingface.co/Fusho/PDXL_StyleLoRA/tree/main
>>8307226They're the same model
>>8307223it's literally saying he's formatting the betas command incorrectly, why would you need anything else op if you're using bmaltais' stupid Gui, if you delete the betas temporarily so the box is empty it tells you how you're supposed to format it iirc It's either [] or () if I remember correctly give me a second I'll go look
>>8307217you should be putting quotes around each argumentso "weight_decay=0.4" "betas=0.95,0.98"also are those the default values for some random optimizer or did you pull them from your ass or what? Fucking with b1 is usually a not great idea(though increasing it is usually a better idea than decreasing it, at least) and lowering b2 is also usually... not a great idea. Also that weight decay seems wildly high.
>>8307229i have no idea man im totally new and have just been trying tomls i find here, i cant figure out how to load a toml into kohya (im using runpod and its fucking annoying) and im just copy and pasting what i see in the notepad, do you have a decent toml you could send my way?
why is it so ugly?
>>8307225here's how to format it, it was with []
>>8307233it's pony
>>8307234here's a .json which should load with bmaltais if that's what you're using. It's missing some setting, though, forget what, double check vs the original toml. probably need to lower the learning rate https://mega.nz/file/MulTiIxa#A0VJkIEUu2r5cm5Lgvphg3M_ZBSSe6uh0scT3_JS6l8
>>8307233it's snoppy
>>8307226My nigga fusho, I hope he makes loras for illus/noob. Do they really work tho? Haven't tried but I still have like 100 of his loras lying in a folder about to be deleted
newfren runpod anon, if you have discord add >b7777777 I'll unironically get out of bed and troubleshoot your runpod with you/help with your lora if you message me in the next half hour if later than that I can help tomorrow if you're still having trouble
>>8307245Don't listen to this post, it's a woman
>>8307225>>8307229oh it's lion.I don't actually know shit about lion or what it generally wants but I remember it being weird, so you can probably ignore commentary beta/decay values, even if the numbers do still seem real odd to me.>>8307230https://files.catbox.moe/8wz0ca.tomlthis is intended for 12GB of VRAM. If you're under that you'll need to flag for fp8. Also it's GLORA which is a FAT UNET lora so each output safetensors will be 442mb(and the config is set up to save every certain number of steps and only retain the last 5, which is important since they'll have differences and you'll want to x/y and test each to figure out which is best due to fitment cycle bullshit).Also intended for styles. And it's adamW so it may take more than one go to dial in unet/TE LR's. I would also probably recommend doing 3~ repeats Also this is set up/spat out from bmaltais UI so you'll probably need to frankenstein some arguments from other toml's if you want other options if you're using straight sd scripts.
>>8307246I'm also a neet whose done nothing but bake loras for the past year. help him instead if you have the balls to do it :^)
>>8307245stop grooming newcuties
>>8307244If you want more, look up nashikone in HF and check out illus section.
wait...pony loras work on noob?
>>8307249w-will you be my n-new cutie anon..
>>8307252Why shouldn't they?
>>8307254completely different base model?
>>8307256Both are smegma models so they're basically the same.
>>8307252there's so much gpo, ces in both models that they now share information. thanks diapfurfags!
>>8307256their base model is sdxl and their base datasets are furshit and danbooru
>>8307250>personality excretionMy favorite! Thanks anon. Now for real, what does that have to do with fusho loras? I don't get it
>>8307252any examples?
>>8307257>>8307258kys furry haters
Request anchor
>>8307265kek, nice one
>>8305691wait why the fuck was this deleted
>>8307267/aco/
>>8307226>pop in a fusho lora I had lying around>doesn't send the gen into straight noisedoesn't exactly do much either but fuck it, convergeGODs where we at?
>>8307268But aco gets posted here regularly and never gets deleted?
>>8307268if that's aco then you may as well nuke 3/4ths the thread.
y-yamero! yamero kudasai!
>>8307267he gets vacationed by the jannies consistently for the images he does actually post and since it's a "repeat offender", the janny takes it as grounds for blanket wiping and global banning the dudeI only know this because I'm also on the list for that treatment
>>8307267>posts lolicon>post gets rightfully deleted for breaking rules>surprised_pikachu_face.jpg
>>8307275no I mean I am that dude. I didn't get a ban or a warning. I only found out it was deleted because I ctrl+f for "[del" on occasion to see what gets hit.I'm asking because it's actually really confusing and odd that it was deleted and I don't know what possible reason there could be for it, since I'm not sure how you could really stretch lolicon for Aru of all characters. Especially when I went out of my way to get beeg teets in view to eschew it even further.and it's not like any of the number of catboxes of blatant lolicon of sakuraposting got nuked so the singular suspect catbox of maki shouldn't be the cause.
>>8307277You've probably got a temp ban (15 min one) from janny that didn't get approved by an actual mod.
>>8307139thanks bro but it'd be easier to download them if they were jpg or webp
>>8307277oh what the actual fuck lmao, janny just losing it I guesssakuraposting may resume thenhttps://files.catbox.moe/2weouh.png
https://files.catbox.moe/dbvx6t.png
>>8307281>wolf cock
>shaded_face>puts a cartoon bandit mask on herFunny
>>8307284Isn't this a western cartoon, technically?
>>8307287And what are you going to do about it :^)
>>8307278that would be incredibly fucking dumb.at this point I'm convinced the janny is just an insufferable faget who is 100% absolutely all in on the rampant shitposting.
>>8307287No. You can tell by the shape of the eyes that it is traditional Japanese artwork.
this is western cartoonhttps://files.catbox.moe/2v24fm.png>pony loras do work on noob
>>8307293><lora:iliandy_ill_v2:0.5>that's not a pony lora
civitai is now full of images of lolis and shotas, I thought it was against the site's rules to post that there, that's the fault of Noob/IL who only knows how to generate underage girls!
>>8307290Never underestimate power-tripping third-worlders that apply for a janitor job on this shithole.
>>8307231>>8307251>>8307274box pls?
>>8307299it's pony
>>8307060based
>>8307098Wow that's a very good-looking pussy
>>8307231>>8307251based miqomix enjoyer
>>8307302>>8307303>>8307304ces-eating samefag status?
>>8307284I like the clean style
>>8307306nogen melty status?
>>8306634box??
>>8307308>>8307309boo, cathagfaggothttps://files.catbox.moe/qzrdrk.png
>>8307313Not him and not going to open your cuckbox, also rent free status?
>>8307315>Not himsure thing, faggie
>>8307317As I said, rent free status?
>>8305383Nice
>>8305946Nice
uh oh
>>8306529Great
>>8307313care to share the loras? or better yet the dataset so I can bake an illust one
>>8307313>>>/b/
>>8306720There is so little of her. Do more of her when you have the chance please.
>>8307337the aim is a bit... much
>>8307293I like this western cartoon.
>>8307344akagibox?
>>8307338why?
>>8307346https://files.catbox.moe/lg8ko5.png
>>8307348>https://files.catbox.moe/lg8ko5.pngthx anon
>captcha: gayxk
>>8307347I don't share the same depravity unfortunately anon
>>8307070gen her barefoot pls
>>8307281can you try doing those shadowgirls with more tattoos but no horns?
Fuck yeah, who was it that said you can't get this type of composition: https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/7717536 in local without controlnet/regional prompting? Get owned bitch
>>8307369there's new controlnets out for noobai, so you can use those instead of spending ages finding good seedsalso, nice gen ano
>>8307371(I'm legit retarded when it comes to using any additional tools, all I have going for me is stubbornness in fishing for good rng)
>>8307369care to box? i wanna look at the prompts
>>8307373metadata is there
>>8307375alright, thanks
>>8307372it's fine anon, although it never hurts to learn. anyway, keep it up
>>8307369It was me and I'm happy to concede defeat. You did what I could not. How much did you have to gacha?
>>8307389I got really lucky to be fair. Looking in my folder I got that seed in 43 tries and then played around with the prompt and settings to get that result
Now that the dust has settled
Pony is still the king
>>8307406THIS IS MY LAST RESORT
anybody else tried using https://github.com/Seshelle/diffusion-noise-alternatives-webui is it normal that it's stalling the gen for good 6-7 seconds after i press generate?
>>8307408YEAH YOU PUSH IT
>>8307411FOXTROTUNIFORMCHARLIEKILO
>>8307406>>8307407Yest. PonyChad
>>8307410Yes, they coded their shitty algorithm in python and it is slow as shit. I fixed it by adding https://pyfastnoisesimd.readthedocs.io/en/latest/overview.html to the extension.You have to tweak the simplex noise parameters to get similar looking stuff, but it is much much faster, taking maybe 100ms at the start of a batch.
>>8307415could you perhaps catbox your fix for extension for a codelet?
>>8307416I could, but it's buggy and you have to use specific parameters to get it to behave since I never bothered to make it user friendly.
>2days to hit image limit>another 2k text post banger threadWhat went wrong?
wrong?
>>8307418Explain to me (without sounding mad) why slow threads with a lot of legitimate AI tech discussion are bad.
>>8307421is legitimate AI tech discussion in the thread with us right now?
>>8307418>>8307421>>8307422samefag status?
>>8307418text copy&spamming and the new form of thread-splitting by making a "new thread" well before image limit is doing it's number. it may be not as bad as the previous attacks but it is still annoying.
>>8307423all me
>>8307425Based honest anon.
>>8307417kind of insane there is only one extension for fixing colors/brightness/composition on noise level and it fucking sucks
>>8307427Thanks. I like how it looks too, but honestly, I'm kind of disappointed that I didn't achieve my original goal of just noob+, cause it does change the style significantly. On the plus side, v1 got mistaken for vpred because of the colors at least once
>pov, cowgirl, simple background>pov, blowjob, simple background>pov, paizuri, simple backgroundThe DALL-E threads on /v/ are less uncreative.
>>8307431you get banned if you post anything else
>>8307431so true sister, why can't they just generate bbc gang bangs...
>>8307424uh oh you made him start up again
>>8307427I can make an effort to fix up the code a bit, set alright defaults for 1024x1024.Another fun thing about the extension is that seeds are completely broken, so you can't regen an image from the same seed.
reminder that TE training isn't necessary for teaching the model new concepts and characters and using that as a reason to turn it on this far into the finetune is retardedeven jordach didn't make that mistake
>>8307436lax is a professional and has a 32xh100 cluster. what do you have?
>>8307431where is your very creative gen, anon?
>>8307437a thread to shitpost in?
>>8307437I have trained more fine-tunes than Lax ever did to his stupid LLMs
>>8307438in /slop/
>>8307438It's November, what are you even doing
>>8307440hi neggles-kun
>>8307436>>8307437>>8307439>>8307440>>8307441>>8307442>>8307443bot post status?
>>8307445why is it so blurry
>>8307445not a single on of those is me, i just thought id chime in
>>8307448and angry
>>8307449why?
>>8307445>>8307448>>8307449>>8307450all me
>>8307451I asked him to.
Imagine we have to cross-check each post to be sure it's not a repost
I just reply to every post I (don't) like
why is it so blurry
>>8307457What did you do to make it come out so blurry?
It's me, I blur all the posts before theh are uploaded to hdg.
>>8307459>>8307460it's not /aco/
I wanted to post an image but judging from the state of the thread currently I think I would just get bullied :(
>>8307461evil...
>>8307454Might as well move to >>>/r9k/
>november 2024>still no dalle 4What went wrong?
>>8307463Just post in /slop/ and be happy
>>8307463i will hug you anonie :)
>>8307463Just don't post>blurry>pov, cowgirl, simple background>pov, blowjob, simple background>pov, paizuri, simple background>hyper>loli>anal>/aco/>/slop/>BBC>browns>fat>nyalia>feet>pony V6And you should be good
>>8307469what's wrong with loli anal?
>>8307469pov, missionary, simple background bros we are so back
heres your gen brono i will not go to /edg/no i will not go to /slop/no i will not go to /b/no i will not take my pills
>>8307315>>8307320>says the same things>n-not him>posts aco for attentiongood morning and please kill yourself. that is all
>>8307471loli anal is the best and its not even close
>>8307474You seem mindbroken, anon
>>8307477oh you're still awake, nice. message received then, time to go get coffee
>>8307474rent free status?
>>8307480post timer status?
>>8307473artists used pls?
>>8307482mindbroken status (nta btw)?
>>8307483its a lora a very inconsistent one
>>8307466safety, safe datasets.look at sd 1.5. backgrounds. texture. popping colors.sdxl, sd 3.5 = blurry shit because trained on "ethical" stock datasets of sunflowers and kittens.
they're probably not making dalle4. dalle3 is completely uncensored and they have frontend filters for it. i used it the few hours after it was released without filters; the importance of an uncensored dataset encompassing everything cannot be understatedit's gimped at the neural level because of the safety shit
>>8307487>>8307489They still haven't released Sora. They won't be releasing any new shit until Sora is done
>>8307457raidenbox?
>>83074691girl,standing only
>>8307469You forgot to mention it has to be a toohoo or a fotm gacha slut
>>8307493Why is it so not Ayakon?
What's wrong with Touhou?
has anyone tried making hatsune mike with AI yet? she is one of the vocaloids
>>8307498Hatsune Miku is one of my favorite characters
>>8307498>hatsune mikeHuh? Is it a new trans one?
>>8307498Who is Hatsune Mike?
>>8307501yeah from toewho
>>8307494Can't beat the original
>>8307501no she is brazil
>>8307506Ayakon-sensei would NEVER use artist style.
>>8307504Htsune Mikeh
>>8307504me
>>8307512I came
>>8307512i rex
>>8307356shinybox?
Has anybody managed to produce good irrumatio or reverse fellatio on noob? Is 1.0 any better at it?
pov, blowjob, simple background, BBC
>>8307304It's a fun mix
>>8307523please sir, do Reimu too...
>>8307524Very nice
>>8307523can you make the male darker?
>>8307523Finally some art I can relate to (as an ntr chad)
>>8307524Is it normal that I got an erection from this?
>>8307532*kisses your cockhead*Yes, anon :3
>>8307532No, you should only get erections from pictures made with a refined laundry list of artist tags and bespoke loras.
>>8307533Hot
>>8307523catbox? nice style unironically
>>8307534Sounds very 1984-esque
Can't wait until the cattroon goes to sleep and the thread can return to normal less cringe shitposting
>>8307539Is cattroon in the thread with us right now?
>>8307540Since you're responding to me, yeah. Post your aco garbage already
>>8307542Why are you so mindbroken? I'm really not him
>>8307539Pretty sure he just dumps his shit here, samefag with based/nice, and then fucks off. For the sole purpose of spitting on the thread.
>>8307518it has meta>>8307522personal mix seems to do it just fine
>the same exact combination of buzzwords>nta btw
>>8307544It's very hard for certain anons to accept reality, so they have to cope with a headcanon
>it really is just cattroon samefagging all day long
>>8307546loser is seriously on overtime samefagging to defned himself. i couldn't imagine ever being this insufferable on a basket weaving forum
>>8307548>nogen
>>8307548I mean, look at all those crying manchildren itt. If I were a 13-year-old brown boy - I'd definitely do that, just for the sheer amount of attention.
Imagine a year from now on, when not a single cat post has been made, and the ghost of cattroon is still following the poor anon
>>8307536https://files.catbox.moe/eservi.pngThe ireading lora is from >>8307005 and the other from civitai>>8307527
"Anon" sounds so lewd, gives me a hard-on every time :3
>>8307557Anon ^_^
>>8307558You're a tease, anon~
>the ghost of cattroonhmmmmmm
can somebody explain what should happen to a man to desire being a cuck and loving bbc? genuinely confused about the pipeline of resident cucks
I_cant_believe_its_not_feces
2hu, bbc and lolis Name a more iconic duo
>>8307563I'm prompting this
>>8307532>Is it normal that I got an erection from this?It's okay if it got you hard, that's what the thread is for
>>8307561>>8307562>>8307563>>8307564Yeah I'm nooticing
>>8307562I think it's part of American culture, like tipping
image cap status?
>>8307566shooting pre rn, hot pics, my panties are wet now
Jordach status?
>>8307569gotcha, is it something that trump can fix?
>>8307562>can somebody explain what should happen to a man to desire being a cuck and loving bbc? what should happen?>genuinely confused about the pipeline of resident cucksGenuinely confused about your sentence structuringAre you ESL?
>cattroon posts>always correlates with shitposts>always anothet post defending him saying that it’s a single person that doesn’t like himhmm why is a tranny trying to gaslight everybody? rhetorical question of couree
We love catGODDDESS here
>>8307575yes, i'm not an american therefore not a cuckold, now how about you give me your take on the matter
>>8307563its noob
does anyone else feel that miqo mix sounds kind of like a cereal
>>8307566Based
trans right
>>8307584Based, trans rights are human rights
>>8307581Off brand Chex mix
I request a signature pony/miqo horse skull
>>8307556Box? more 2hu bbc pls.
>>8307584what's he right about?
>>8307578>>8307584so true
>>8307556thanks and based
>>8307584>>8307585we need more of pic related
2hu blacked 'cord invite?
>>8307572>>8307583Nice, have another
>>8307584trans wrong
>>8307596wtf you can't say that!
>>8307579>yes, i'm not an american therefore not a cuckold, now how about you give me your take on the matterNo thanks, you come off like a trolling asshole so I'm not gonna give you an honest response
>>8307598https://files.catbox.moe/axzatb.jpegit keeps happening, weird because i made sure the filename i submitted was indeed jpegmaybe 4chan is renaming it
>>8307593Is that supposed to be anime Donald Trump?
>>8307594Which 2hu wud u fug?
>>8307599блять, чe ты oт мeня хoчeшь, oбъяcни пo-бpaтcки, я peaльнo нe пoнимaю
>>8307587Sorry, forgot to link >>8307595
>>8307603Z
>>8307603Try to ask in your local draft board
>>8307600Thanks for boxing.
i just dont understa
>>8307587>I request a signature pony/miqo horse skullhere you go
It's okay, Ivan. Just grab your AK and rush forward.
explain what got you mad without sounding mad
>>8307613im mad
PonyGAWD
>>8307615chill
so is pony just the new nai of these threads?
>>8307619nai is still naiillustrious slopmixes are the new pony and pony is the new 1.5
Anon, pull down your foreskin and stick it in me
bros...the color...they aren't popping...
highlights time! please link the new thread
>>8307625sepia is the new sovl
new thread:>>8306020>>8306020>>8306020
>>8307629>troll thread
>>8307629kys
New Thread:>>8307633>>8307633>>8307633
>>8307598>YuiHoly mother of based.
>>8307657dont even really need loras in this day and age
>>8307661yup prompting characters has never been so good
May you do well in your new path, Saya-anon...
>>8308428what did I miss? what's saya anon doing
>>8309018A few days ago, saya-anon posted this:>>>/e/2914850In the first file are there is a .txt file that says:>it's unlikely that i'll be doing or posting any /h/ or /e/ in the near future (or longer) so if you want any of these fixed you'll have to ask someone else or fix them yourselfAfter that, to the best of my knowledge, saya-anon has not posted anything else so it really looks like he will out from posting for a while should he ever return.
>>8309030I c. I dont browse enough to catch his posts anymore but it was nice seeing them when I stumbled. hope he's back with his eclipses someday
>>8309098>hope he's back with his eclipses somedayThis.
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