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>LOCAL UI
A1111: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui
Forge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge | Alternative version (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge
Comfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI

>LOCAL MODELS
Illustrious: https://civitai.com/models/795765 | https://civitai.com/models/1232765
Noob: https://civitai.com/models/833294

>RESOURCES
Wiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples | https://openart.ai/workflows/templates
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://www.iopaint.com/install
Upscalers: https://openmodeldb.info
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
Illustrious-related: https://rentry.org/illustrious_loras_n_stuff
Useful Nodes/Extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgz/edit | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
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>>>/e/edg
>>>/c/kdg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
>>>/u/udg
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>>8479711 (OP)
Previous Thread Highlights:

TH_25-03-01_-hdg-.jpg
>https://files.catbox.moe/mprndt.jpg
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>>8479623 →
sometimes I pause and think about how incredible technology is. Such a massive leap the past few years
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>>8479716
>THREAD DOGSHIGHTS 01/03/2024
Kill Yourself
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>naiv4 op
>naiv4 not in op
kys
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https://files.catbox.moe/8i6tss.png
well playing with v4 was kind of fun for a bit but man does it feel real fucking mid.
>>8479716
kill yourself.
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asuka if she was hot
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magical girl love
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>>8479711 (OP)
Add the NAI ad back.
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Thanks for the proxy!
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Can we make it so that it's just not allowed to say bad things about nai?
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>>8479732
why is her clit smudged off
who erased it
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>>8479729
>Asuna and Kensuke’s love-child
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>>8479733
Drop some gift keys for us first, Muzzy!
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>>8479722
AI basically being my on-demand artist for all the stupid porn shit I’ve always wanted but never intended on commissioning because I’m not made of money is a godsend.
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>>8479732
box please?
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MiniNai bros... its over...
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>>8479730
can you do homura as well?
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>>8479748
homuhomu
wish noob knew her black dress better
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>never forget
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>>8479751
Yike, local looking worse than ever!
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anon was right, artist:itzah,pixel art is a nice combo
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>>8479747
Time to pay up, piggie
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>>8479757
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sir you must validate me reedeming $25 sirs,,,
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>>8479670 →
they look decent until you zoom in
i remember having that issue with artiwaifu
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>>8479759
nai could NEVER
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>>8479761
alright that's a rad gen ngl
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I give up on v4. Spent over 10000 leftover anals, and haven't gotten anything remotely half decent. "Learn 2 Prompt" shit is nonsense, the only good looking images posted in the last two threads were Noob, the only v4 images (here and elsewhere) that didn't look terrible were seed gacha or carried by a single, unstable artist tag, where the style changes drastically if you change one or two scene/character tags.

Hard to be too upset though, Noob may not be perfect, but at least it's free.
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>>8479765
>Spent over 10000 leftover anals, and haven't gotten anything remotely half decent
/r/thathappened
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>>8479759
how many MD5s am I gonna need to filter for this kek
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>>8479716
>80% of the highlights are nai v4
you all bitch but at the end of the day its still the best model and the people have spoken
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>>8479754
yeah this mix of loras and artists has always been pretty fried especially the eyes, but I enjoy the impression the girls can give off with it
hypersexualized nudity
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>>8479753
Delusional if you think this is the same as back than lmao
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v4 won
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>>8479751
thanks!
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textsissies lost
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MiniNai status?
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>>8479768
>80% of the highlights are nai v4
>Over 90% of thread is NAI.
Hmm, I wonder...
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>>8479775
Dead again.
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>>8479775
dead... i used too much
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v4 can't make 3D pics, local is better
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>>8479768
the last two threads have been more lolwut so no surprises there
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>3dpd
ew
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>>8479753
This was pretty sad. Was the moment when I realized that this thread is filled with blind dogmatical faggots that were willing to deny reality just because it made them feel uncomfortable.
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>>8479784
>blind dogmatical faggots that were willing to deny reality
like v4 shills now?
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>I can't believe the thread is filled with people who actively dislike tourist shills who keep insisting that you HAVE to pay a monthly subscription for porn
who would have thought
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>>8479788
Not really. V4 looks poopy so far but I'm willing to wait for some time, maybe someone will figure it out.
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COWGIRL POV ME ONE MORE TIME
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>>8479773
I actually really like homu but due to that I've gotten multiple bans for her so everytime I think of posting her its just (((lol)))
+1 cnnuy: https://files.catbox.moe/ehzio2.png
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Don't pay if you don't want to, nobody can force you sis, just don't be a delusional retard.
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>>8479794
By the time people figure shit out, V5 will be on the horizon because these retards are determined not to share how to prompt “correctly.” No, telling GPT to summarize a style is not correctly, and I’m not taking advice from the stupid nigger in charge of their LLM division.
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>>8479723
So post something...
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>>8479784
this is still the most fun ai image general on this site
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Best artist tags for realistic in naiv4?
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A remake of a classic.
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>>8479775
I don't think I'll bring it up again for now, the first run consumed about 160K anlas, this run - 350K. Maybe some time later?
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>>8479808
you wouldn't by any chance be interested in chlidnsre would you?
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>highlights are now pay to win because if you have a nai v4 sub it means you get in automatically
such bullshit
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>>8479811
all v4 prompts need alas even i use 28 steps?
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>>8479810
kek
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>>8479810
hoooooly based
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>>8479810
nice, now wider
perferrably to the point where it looks distorted
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>>8479817
I used accounts without a subscription, that's why the gens were so fast. On Opus the normal gens will be free, yes, but quite a bit slower because anlas gens are prioritized.
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>>8479817
no? 2048 combined pixels at 28 steps is free
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>>8479810
local look like this to me
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>>8479816
Sadly, my local gen got in this time.
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>>8479810
Meh, do that furry model hgd wife beutiful lady portrait instead.
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I've yet to see any NAI posts that look better than local
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>>8479823
>>8479825
oh thx
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>>8479827
You are getting exiled to India, pack your bags up and say goodbye to your family.
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>>8479813
Genuinely, no. I just want to generate thick women in obscure cosplay
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>>8479779
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>>8479831
almost based, just inpaint that smartphone image
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>>8479834
It's slop.
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I've yet to see any local posts that look even close to NAI
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>just inpaint
We don't do none of that here anymore, Sir.
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I have yet to see any posts that are better than the ones following the nai/illu release. seems like only newfags are motivated to post images these days
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>>8479843
:this: :100:
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>>8479779
meta:blender (medium)
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>>8479839
Is this ironic?
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Someone show me v4 deadnoodles, I'm not renewing my subscription just for that
>https://files.catbox.moe/v9h9pb.png
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artist:drive shot

Looks really nice
try it out anons!
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>>8479755
i like it
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>>8479858
You don't need to renew a subscription, just use your leftover anals.
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Bros how do I stop being a promptlet?
I'm not used to local prompting
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>>8479856
It's accurate MMD style.
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>>8479843
I can agree with that, haven't genned anything that looked this bad (>>8479839) locally in years.
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is minotaur/werewolf x human girl cosplaying said animal allowed here? any other suggestions if anyones into that
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The NAI V4 have improved in various but it still have some flaws like it have problem mixed style example like artist style or creatures/characters.

But it become more easier to prompt when you want to have more control of image generation. But it take some extra effort to write rather than just typing the tags.

Here is prompt that I had used for this image.

a petite girl with long straight black hair, brown eyes, red lips and purple eyeshadow. She is wearing black garter belt and stockings. Her nipples are fulled erected, long labia with pubic stubble. She teasing the viewer while thrusting inside her wet pussy with dildo by using her own hand. The motions lines appear around her hand and dildo while inserting her pussy. The background is bedroom. nsfw
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can v4 do game screenshots?
does it have any internet knowledge like dall-e 3?
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>>8479865
>It's accurate MMD style.
Those melted v4 hands certainly aren't.
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>>8479811
Sure, thanks for the freebies anon. Maybe limit gens a tiny bit in some way next time? So it doesn't consume too fast
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>>8479865
So just retarded, gotcha
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>>8479868
Why is it so grey
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Hope that they can get enough funds to quickly train v5. Otherwise this will be the end of anime model progress for a long time
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>>8479875
its eps
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>>8479878
yeah really we need to support them all we can. this is only the beginning, things can only get better from here!
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>>8479878
This, I subbed from two diff accounts just to support Novelai!
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>>8479779
sure it's not the best at 3d but i think it does okay, i'd probably take this into local and i2i with a lora and get something better but lazy
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>>8479883
HOLY FUCK ITS SO FRIED
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>>8479883
shiiiiiish
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>>8479863
I don't have enough anals remaining for a proper test but it doesn't look that different tbqh
>https://files.catbox.moe/vq1n6f.png
Hopefully someone can make something way better
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why is it so ugly, artifacted, grey and blurry?
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>>8479888
it's local duhhhhh
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>>8479868
>detached fingers
So this is the power of a 16ch vae...
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i liked v4
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>>8479881
I unironically did that back when v3 gen-times were 15 seconds or more, now I couldn't be assed to even hunt down the API key for my last account with leftover anals.
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>>8479892
Kurushills tried pushing the "v4 does perfect fingers" in the previous thread, meanwhile most gens barely look better than Noob with fingers and other anatomy.
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beta vs sgm uniform?
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>>8479893
Good for you.
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>>8479897
Simple
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NAI v4's style blending is completely fucked, I cannot get the style I was using in v3 at all. Everything else is great but I will have to stick to v3 for now, maybe fine tuning images in v4
have an egg in this trying time
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>>8479896
If you use 'nsfw', they look far worse than Noob most of the time, and are only semi-passable without it, and only with a handful of artist tags.
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>>8479901
wtf Kurumuz is anti-hentai now??
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>>8479899
euler a?
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>>8479902
No, it's just a mediocre half baked model they panic retrained after a CSAM scare that they had to release because they were bleeding subscribers waiting for v4.
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Kurumuz-chan, don't read that!
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welp v4 sucks
anyone want my account to spend my anals?
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>>8479908
me
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>>8479908
me
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>>8479908
Not me
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>>8479908
i'd love it
m9osdw@nextsuns.com
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post burners
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Post bunnies
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>>8479916
Is she corpse?
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>>8479908
id rather give u anal bby
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>>8479925>>8479926
I'm wowing rn
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>>8479925
>>8479926
waow^2
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>>8479925
>>8479926
these look great, catbox?
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>>8479926
those doll joints doesn't look quite right
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>>8479926
Why is it so blurry?
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>>8479930
it's her fleshy dollpit vagina hiding in there
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>>8479933
It's NAI (version 4).
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Pony v7 will save anime AI generation.
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>>8479935
Yessss
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>>8479926
Weird doll joints, must be some lora.
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>>8479753
If it's the same schizo, it would be kind of pathetic.
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which one of the threads for monster porn?
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>>8479800
Really? That's crazy.
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>>8479875

I suspect that I fiddle the setting.

>>8479892

Missed that, it is not uncommon that fingers become mess.

Bu anyway another thing that I discover with V4 it is more easier to control various characters to perform sexual intercourse compared to V3. In V3 it was more painful and it require several attempt until I get the desired result.
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Nice esl Sir
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>>8479941
saar why is your hentai men wearing lipsticks
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My boyfriend is so upset over Naiv4 he's barely touched his ketchup-mayo steak..
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>>8479941
yeah cool control. now if only it didn't visually look like something out of V1 it'd be worth $3/mo
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holy mother of /aco/
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>>8479941
I can't believe intercourse of sex used to be painful until kurumuz invented V4
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>>8479761
Changing my "artist: alice" to "alice" seems to up the quality, interesting.
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>>8479944
I wear lipstick
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why is v4 genitalia so bad?
it's not sd1.5 bad but it seems worse than pony was and that's kind of fucked up
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>>8479955
To make you feel safe.
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>>8479953
But you are a cute nyoposter wth milky white skin and a small lovely penis, not a nigga with an afro.
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What's the best local program/model to :
- inpaint
- upscale

(anime model, mostly naiv4 and noob)

I'm using comfyui but the inpaint nodes look like something a sadistic psychopath would create.
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>almost no cunny gens posted
I thought NAI was a pedo model?
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>>8479955
I've tried like 4 different styles with various amps and de-amps and the dick literally ends up looking the same almost all the time lmao
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>>8479959
it's prunned (NAIV4)
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>>8479959
V4 is dogshit at mixing styles, why would cunnyGODS bother with it?
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>>8479958
reforge for both
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>>8479958
new forge and foocus have the best uis for inpainting. you'll have to use inpainting controlnets and external software like photoshop for complex stuff
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>>8479959
https://files.catbox.moe/9pxqhy.png
https://files.catbox.moe/uyio35.png
https://files.catbox.moe/eg8im7.png
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>>8479962
You can always gen in a single artist style.
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>>8479966
Finally
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>>8479933
do you use anything other than "slop" to describe anything?
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Errrr so why did nai fuck up their model to add writing instead of just updating their old dataset?
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>>8479970
do you post anything but slop?
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>>8479965
>>8479964
Thanks anon, my knowledge stopped at a1111.
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>>8479966
nice
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>>8479971
They drank their own cool-aid and believed they were the best data scientists in the world so they baked their whole model from scratch.
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>>8479971
They saw the success of Flux and knew that text generation was the future. Most people don't care about autistically mixing styles and they just want to mimic their favorite artist one at a time so that was wasted space in the old model and replaced with the ability to put text on clothing or wooden signs.
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they trained their own arch to avoid paying license fees to stability
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Stop it, you'll make Kurumuz sad :(
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>>8479978
How has he been reacting to everyone shitting on his failbake? I want to see some more screenshots of their discord
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>>8479711 (OP)
>>8479716
:)
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>>8479979
>see some more screenshots of their discord
fuck no make a drama eceleb channel or something, I'm tired of this stupid shit
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Wtf that can't be l*cal can it?!
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>>8479944
When you mention it.... I thought it was normal until I took closer look it, I quickly edit with inpaint and added red lipstick on undesired content.

I notice with some problem with V4 it could also "spills" prompt to other characters.

>>8479947

Real good image generation take time and it don't help either that they forced to retrain it again after they disocer that V4 could make realistic image of real people.

>>8479950

Yes it is pretty much bless. Now they need to update more of V4, V4 still lacking some features that V3 had. Or hope that they will release improved NAI V5.
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>>8479980
why did you edit thi V4 gen to have local metadata? Are you insane or just trolling??
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>>>/v/704304749
>Wow that’s really good. Omg. How is this AI lmao.
The raw power of v4 is blowing minds left and right.
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>Hentai style
Great tag for making the hentis
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>>8479986
sometimes we have to remember that normies haven't blasted their brains with millions of ai images, and cant recognize the slop
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>>8479986
#ad
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>"prompt": "Hentai style, couple, bedroom, motion lines, nsfw, no text, best quality, very aesthetic, absurdres",
>"char_caption": "a petite girl with long straight black hair, brown eyes, red lips and purple eyeshadow. She is wearing black garter belt and stockings. Her nipples are fulled erected, long labia with pubic stubble. She riding on his cock while having ahegao expression. "
>"char_caption": "an big muscular dark man with afro hair. his huge cock that penetrate pussy. he looked at viewer while giving thumb up and smiled brightly"
Someone please tell me this is a shitpost.
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>dedicated channel to (not) help people get something even remotely decent out of V4
what the fuck?
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>>8479988
Most people are surprised when they're told AI images exist that isn't like AOM slop from 3 years ago
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>>8479991
lmao, they are totally in damage control mode.
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>>8479966
Wondering if I train a lora in that nai style would work
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is there an updated webui extension for v4?
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>>8479992
it's really easy to sneak AI onto subreddits that seethe and cry about ai constantly if you hide it at all even
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>v4 being shit is 95% to blame on furryfreaks
I didn't really need yet another reason to hate them but sure I'll take it
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>>8479992
And on the other hand will immediately scream slop if an artist draws the eyes slightly blurry or the tw*tter image compression does that to his art.
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>>8479996
Yes we know Ayakon and everyone is impressed every single time you talk about doing it here
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>>>/v/704309436
>Wow. Wonderful. Sublime. Please. More.
Why isn't every v4 gen received like this here?
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>>8480001
That's one of you losers larping, stop this
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>>8479997
Furries convinced kurumuz that he was too hot to pay stability fees and that his team had what it takes to train a full model from scratch?
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>>8480001
v and vg are NAI shill central if I'm not mistaken.
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>>8480006
No, they're just boards full of normies that think that AI = dalle-3 hallucinations or SD 1.5 shit, they act like monkeys seeing fire for the first time every time someone shows them an AI gen that doesn't have salad fingers or melty eyes.
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>>8479980
IAshizo here. What's up?

[spoiler]Realmente estas mejorando con ese nuevo estilo rarotonaga alternativo que traes de vez en cuando.[/spoiler]
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>>8480001
because depressive people here forgot to enjoy stuff and just doom post "slop" all day to literally anything shown
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>>8480006
/trash/ is nai shill central
/v/ and /vg/ are dalle retards
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>>8480008
Those two go hand in hand tardie.
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>>>/v/704309817
Saars they are on to us, the gig is up
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>>8480010
So true NAI is perfect
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>>8480009
I like the composition, but the eyes man, I get them in low resolution like this and it's quite annoying.
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>>8480009
Nice spoiler
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>>8480008
Normies use DALL-E cause its "free"
They wanna generate dumb Mario, Peach and PIkachu images. Not hentai and all that other weird shit thats for cringe ass weebs.
vmghr
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>>8479995
The old one should work.
https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api
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>>8480013
can you not make thread wars shit, and just go to sleep
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>>8480015
That's your fault for not being able to prompt and leverage the full power of the 16 ch VAE.
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>>8479900
Why is there so many retard like you expecting the style mix to be 1:1 on a completely different model? Might aswell complain pony couldnt do style mixing as well as v3
Still V4 look like shit overall
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>>8480017
Normies were using dall-e to gen pics of Taylor Swift making out with dogs.
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>>8480015
Is not "upscaled" unfortunately.
>>8480016
I wish [spoiler][/spoiler] worked in here.
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>>8480022
cope
v4's style mixing is ass because it doesnt even really mix styles
sticking with v3
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So general consensus (and also my thoughts) is that V4 is genuinely worse than V3?
I mean the only reason I'd use V4 is to more easily prompt threesomes or use a character introduced after 2023.
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>>8479987

It worked on curated version, I could use anime or manhwa style instead. It is good idea to add style prompt otherwise you could get diffirent style.

>>8479990

Nope, I tried this prompt instead of only using tags like in older versions. I notice that I get more desired result but sometime I use Danbooru tags when feeling lazy.
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V4 is way better at furry which is pretty awesome
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Imagine paying $25 to gen shit that would have been considered embarrassingly ugly even during the Pony days
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>>8480026
v4 is way better at composing an image but way worse with styles
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>>8480009
if you're still the one doing the highlights, do you just go through a mental checklist to decide what needs to fill out the collage?
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TGGGG
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one of the characters in the koikatsu training lora i made was auto tagged as mythra \(xenoblade\) and if that's the reason why all of my subsequent training iterations have had her specifically fry im going to die
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>>8480031
More like going through the thread (and the archived one) and pick stuff up/compare pics against one-another but that changes a lot between threads.
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>>8479925
Xiangling pls
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kurumuz status?
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>>8480041
yeah I was thinking that once an image seems to have ticked a box for some composition, everything else with the same seems to get passed up, so I thought it was a funny autopilot behavior
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>>8479900
looks like pony? why
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>patreon slop artists now can't use their normal artist blends sending everyone back to square 1 if they want to use the new nai v4 features
>I've already struck gold with a new blend

It's time for me to breakout brehs
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>>8480047
someday you will get a request from that one /bag/got
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>>8480048
Don't they all use local anyway, the same "2.9d" art style like the catboxed one here : https://files.catbox.moe/dw9x75.webp
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>>8480016
catbox?
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>>8480049
I only post my slop here so he'd have to come here himself.
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nokezori tag works in v4
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>>8480052
nah most of the biggest ones all were nai
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>>8480053
the metadata is there broski
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naiv4 FLOPPED bigly
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NAI just raised the CFG slider from 10 to 20 and removed the "Decrisp" option for V4. lol?
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>>8480056
Oh I see.
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>>8480016
>>8480059
>naiXLVpred102d_final
it is good?
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>>8480052
I think these ones are more a thing of chinese users
western and japanese ones are nai or local (but always the same style even in local, so lazy)
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>>8480064
>final
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
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>>8479623 →
>>8479585 →
can I get your prompts?
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>>8480059
im retarded, it was meant for >>8480047
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>>8480068
userscript...
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>>8480071
what?
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>>8480051
is this what they call user friendly?
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>>8480064
Out of all the shitmixes I have tried, this one is good with all the artists that I care and it's somehow good with complex prompts
Also I don't have to use an additional lora to stabilize it, just a minor tweak to my negs, see pic related (was mostly a test of one of old prompts)
It's fine, not perfect but pretty usable
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Fuck animagine 4 is so good in terms of styles, but completely shits the bed on anything slightly more complicated than just 1girl prompts.
Noobai with animagines aesthetics would literally solve world hunger.
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I'm sensing another refiner meme shitpost on the horizon
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See you guys in 2027 for V5
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>>8480074
nta, but this https://rentry.org/hdgcb from the OP
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>controlnet
good
>refiner
bad

what causes this logical discrepancy?
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pixelart inpaint test
nai v4 left, v3 right
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>>8480080
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>8480086
rolf, so the current version is the final version until v5?
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>>8480086
Lol they are giving no tips or help on how to make better images are now desperately hoping some one figures out miracle prompting or people just get stockholmed into liking it
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>>8480091
KEEEEEEEEEEK, good fucking lord
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>>8480085
you just need to learn how to prompt anon, it's a new model that just came out yesterday there's no reason to make comparisons this early into its life
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>>8480091
How in shambles is their discord right now on a scale of 1 to 10, it seems like every screenshot I see of Kurumuz is him telling everyone it's a skill issue
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>>8480091
If the model is that good why are they already hyping up V5?
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>>8480091
LMAO and people actually pay this fucker. At least stability gave SD3 for free before insulting it's users
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>>8480094
if it's a skill issue why aren't their employees sharing their good gens on discord for everyone to see?
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>>8480086
Honest this smug atitute just burned any sort of good will I had left
>lol just git gud dude no I'm not going to explain how you're supposed to use the tools you've given me money for you just have to trust me that you suck and need to learn to use it
I'm not giving them money anymore
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Take your meds. Imagine coming to a thread about a 28 year old videogame so you can shitpost about AI
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>>8480091
>tell everyone they suck at prompting
>dont post good looking pictures
>dont post good workflow
>refuse to elaborate
>leave
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>>8480091
that will be 25 dollars per month cuckies lol
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>>8480097
They tried. It got embarrassing.
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>>8480098
You never did stop trying to virtue signal
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>>8480086
>>8480091
>It's not the product, it's you.
Classic shit-tier software company damage control at it's finest. Fuck them, I get enough of that shit at work.
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>>8480101
Like looking in a mirror, huh?
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>>8480104
Do I know you? I don't remember virtue signaling around here
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>spent months thinking claudefag is a complete schizo who is obsessed with nai for no good reason
>nai v4 comes out
>it's actually kind of funny how bad it is
>find myself just supporting his schizo posting and enjoying the complete shitshow that is nai v4
well i guess im a hypocrite
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Genuine question from someone who has no idea how training works:
Can a model look bad when it's 95% done and become good in the last 5% of training?
Or is it not salvageable at that point?
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>>8480081
This one doesn't work btw :
NovelAI prompting userscript (emphasis keyboard shortcuts)
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>>8480100
go back to /vg/ old man, this is zoomer country fr
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>>8480109
>find myself just supporting his schizo posting
this was never a good idea
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>>8480113
fr fr ong
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>>8480116
Jesus christ LOL
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>>8480116
lol
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>>8480110
ive never trained a diffusion model before but i started out training GANs and ime those always looked progressively less shit throughout training
if you mean stuff like loras then they shouldn't ever look worse than the base model and if they're bad in the last 5% then they're probably fucked. the same thing is probably also true for fine tunes
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>>8479858
I didn't check deadnoodles at all while the proxy was working(even though I probably should have).
here's an amechan tho
https://files.catbox.moe/atp3su.png
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>>8480116
LMAO
this fucker actually blind
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>>8480116
This is why their LLM division is in the fucking toilet. I genuinely don’t see NAI even lasting long enough to release v5 now.
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>>8480116
does anyone there actually really use their models
holy shit
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>>8480110
The problem with this model is the inherent architecture won't allow what people are hoping for (artist mixing), that was a side effect of how dogshit clip was at constraining concepts. Contrary to all their gloating NAIV3 was essentially a lottery win for them and doubt they will be able to replicate it
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>People still making fun of NAI V4
It's not as good as we thought it was going to be, but it's far from bad lol.
Just because your schizo artist mix isn't working the same way it worked on v3 doesn't mean it's a bad model.
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>>8480116
keeek
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>>8480123
i just hope someone leaks v3 if they go under
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>>8480086
>>8480091
>>8480103
>>8480116
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>>8480120
>>8480125
I was asking because I just joined the pony discord and saw the v7 previews.
I was excited for it and heard it was almost done, but now I'm doomin' and gloomin'
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>>8480110
no, training is usually done with decreasing lr towards the end and only small details get learned by that time. That being said, you can train with something like stable decay as long as you like and just branch of whenever you like for refining
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>>8480130
Oh my bad I thought you meant V4 lol, Pony is a lost cause, ignore that one
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>>8480126
It’s a bad model specifically because they killed artist mixing, using just one artist isn’t good enough, and everyone involved is more interested in jerking each other off in their server than actually helping paying users. The only thing NAI had over its competition was ease of access, and that’s in the toilet.
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>>8480081
I may be retarded because I installed it, the first one, and nothing changed
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They should just update the v3 database and cut their loses short
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the only thing that would make this better is if they made it so you couldnt use v3 anymore

the patreon grifter tears would be absolutely insane
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>>8480137
Explain what you think grifter means.
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pony or at least it's mixes were quite amazing at mixing artists (that worked)
is it just a sdxl thing?
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>>8480126
it's just one bait posting the same thing over and over and over and over again, then watching other anons take the bait
it's endless, I wonder how much time it will go on before he tires out

though I disagree, if it's not a bad model then it's a badly explained model, at some point they need to publish actual guides
I am able to get nice erotic stuff, especially with multiple characters, but it's like 3 in 10 and I'm unable to understand why it's so uneven outside of the base model itself being uneven
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>>8479858
>>8480121
local won bigly...
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>>8480138
Anyone making more money than me
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>>8480138
A person who swindles you by means of deception or fraud.
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>>8480116
man the devs really don't know how to use the model at all
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>>8480136
I don't think they can, they had all the compute to do small incremental updates anytime but I think they realized they are anything else they do with the model just fucks it up (since they pretty much admitted to not knowing how half the stuff they made works).
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did it really?
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>>8480126
people would be happy with it's prompt capabilities if the existing artists didn't look as bad as they do on top of the artifacting
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>>8480091
you WILL tweak ze style prompts
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>>8480144
It's the same situation with Noob but I'll give Euge and LAX credit that they didn't shit on their users like this
Nice gen btw
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>>8480147
Your mom says the same thing about you (she also lies)
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Making their own model from the scratch was a mistake, all they had to do was make something with Flux.
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>>8480147
do you ever stop
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>>8480116
They really need to tell that guy to shut the fuck up because everything he says makes them look incompetent as fuck.
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>almost everything good about v3 happened by accident
>spent approximately zero time trying to figure out how or why those accidents happened
>make your own arch
>sucks
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>>8480140
>I wonder how much time it will go on before he tires out
How much time did it take last big release (v3)?
I don't think he ever stops, just learn to ignore.
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>>8480152
Honestly, looking at noobai convinced me that all you need is SDXL.
Flux and SD3.5 might be good as a general model, they suck for finetuning.
SDXL seems flexible enough to basically do whatever you want it to do.
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what's with the recent trend if blaming all posts you don't like on 1 (one) schizo?
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I'm a schizo but I'm not that schizo
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>>8480159
Don't worry about that guy, it's just 1 schizo constantly blaming it on 1 schizo.
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What went so wrong? V4 could easily pass a 1.5 shitmix, even pony is miles better.
At least nips LOVE it tho, they never moved from the 1.5 style and this is like a holy grail to them.
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>>8480130
you shouldn't feel too bad because pony v7 was always going to be shit. astralite has said himself that he doesn't understand training very well and just threw darts at SDXL until something hit and now he's trying it again with a fundamentally shittier architecture and a fundamentally shittier base checkpoint. if it's at least comparable to v6 it'll be a miracle and even then it'll be DOA because it'll still be impossible for most people to run or train locally while v6 has a massive ecosystem on civit
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>>8480157
this. we should train sdxxl where we add 2 more clip instances and triple the parameter count
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>>8480163
>they never moved from the 1.5 style
I'm kind of tired seeing dlsite games/asmr with this style though, I hope they'll migrate to v3/4 at some point.
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lots of stable diffusion geniuses in here
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>>8479741
Thanks anon
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>>8480163
>they never moved from the 1.5 style
why is that though
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>>8480170
Kurumuz loves the iconic 1.5 style
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>>8480091
>retrain model so each version requires users to remake prompts causing them to spend more to get real results
now that's a business model
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>>8480170
Idk they just like it. All of their illu/noob shitmixes try to mimic that style.
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>>8480116
This faggot is blind in the same exact way anons were/are when they compared pony outputs to v3 outputs and went "look, we can do that too! it's the same picture!” for the longest fucking time
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>Pay for NAI
>Complain about their product
>The developers literally humiliate you in their public discord
How the fuck is anlatan still a thing?
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it's still kind of weird
maybe i really do need to just figure out this subsurface scattering shader, which sucks since i can't find any documentation for it online
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>>8480178
you figured out how to make nai v1 skin?
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>>8480179
i figured out how to make shitty pre-pbr skin
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https://strawpoll.com/wAg3QYPQGy8

Pick the correct number of steps for euler_a. If you get this number wrong, your family will die.
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>>8480121
>unprompted sweat and sweatdrop
not even NAI v4 can't escape the average amechan experience huh
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>>8480183
dont click this steals your anlas
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>>8480182
like i've said, nai v1 full skin
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https://litter.catbox.moe/rcs92v.png
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>>8480189
>cutesexyrobutts
he's completely absent from the style, what happens if you delete it?
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>>8480190
Now how do I [] instead of {}?
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>>8480190
full of shit, I've tried every single combination and there's clearly soft banned artists like mizumizuni who I used to provide shine for my prompts' dicks and now he's basically impossible to show up in a prompt even if I put him at the front and amp him 5 times { }
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>>8480190
give the link anon
I would go the opposite route, aka [ instead of {
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>>8480197
>soft banned
schizo, what? he works just fine
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>>8480199
https://old.reddit.com/r/NovelAi/comments/1j1cg2c/v4_is_ridiculously_powerful/
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>>8480193
>>8480200
why it looks so... saturated?
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>>8480123
v3 is still the best saas model
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>>8480183
it's 25 actually
even that feels like overkill sometimes
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>>8480203
saar turn down the saturation of the monitor in the settings
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>>8480189
I downplayed his style with square brackets but you can still see a tiny bit of his influence on the eyebrows and shading.

here's one without his style, it's very very similar
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>>8480170
nips are tech illiterate
if they manage to get something working that they like they will never seek to improve upon it unless it get canned
remind me of umemaro still using his 20 years old setup to do his porn
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>>8480193
nice artist, thanks
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the dataset for all models comes from danbooru, which means,the woman should have lighter skin, the male darker. this will guarantee your final image will look better.
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>>8480183
i use 32, bigger number=better right?
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>>8480204
You forgot about Illust v3.5 (not available state of the art model)
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>>8480183
28 maximum
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>>8479716
>didn't make it
it's so over...
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I would just like to know how do you keep a consistent style in v4 without straight up copying an artist. The fun thing about mixing was getting something completely new
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>>8480214
the problem is when you go high enough on euler_a it decides to completely change into what looks like an entirely different seed
and so theoretically you want to get the highest number you can before this change occurs
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>>8480091
why is he such a kek?? noob and illust have faults, but never did the bakers double down and swear the user was wrong. they always said something like "we'll try to improve in the next release". why is NAI so opposed to doing incremental updates? they have the compute to try out tons of shit and experimental early access is literally one of their advertising points in the opus subscription description. i liked v3 but i'm simply not subscribing for v4 after how awful they handled this. first with the xittergrift early access and now with the doubling down on a failbake.
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>>8480223
one word. ego.
fool has gotten so comfy on his pedestal that any criticism against model means people are merely using it wrong. his models can NEVER have issues
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>>8480223
Because if you’re complaining about v4 then that means you’re either subbed or paid for anlas, so they inherently view you as lesser than them.
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>>8480190
there's a reason he didn't use any actual distinguishable styles to highlight his post. I just tried it with my shit, moved them around, swapped the order, added more brackets. Literally the same output lol
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>>8480220
fucked up
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>>8480222
It should change completely with every single step added, that's the whole idea of ancestral samplers.
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what a shitshow, if the arch wasn't ready they should've baked v3.5 in the meantime
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so hows v7 doing anyways?
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>>8480232
Surely just another month and it would've been fine
This is our fault for rushing them
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>>8480227
All those "drawn by" should be enough of a tell
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>>8480009
>>8480015
Do this.
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>>8480237
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Imagine if NAI hadn’t dropped the ball.
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>>8480238
>>8480237
Bro I get that you do it with good intentions but that's fucking terrible, on wide shots like that you should always upscale the whole thing and then inpaint the fine details
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>>8480202
Interesting, thanks anon
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>>8480241
It's an improvement over just posting the raw gen.
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>>8480237
>>8480241
>>8480238
Thanks, I want to do that inpainting locally, but I'm not sure I get why you should upscale before? To get better details in inpaint? But isn't inpainting "zooming in" the area you want changed?
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>>8480207
all of that and the majority of the gen is just as109 lmao
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can v4 do cooperative buttjobs?
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>>8480248
>can v4 do
…Nyo.
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>>8480246
>I'm not sure I get why you should upscale before? To get better details in inpaint? But isn't inpainting "zooming in" the area you want changed?
you "inject" pixels into it but you can only add so much based on the canvas dimensions
bigger image, better inpaint results
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>>8480248
sure, just use the character thing
it's very good at poses with multiple characters
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>nai v4 is out
>thread is filled with lowtier groid, (ai-generated:4) dogshit gens again
see you in a month local xisters
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Don't worry guys, the next partiral epoch is locking in! Gosh, v5 will mog local so hard fr fr.
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>>8480247
hm, you're right, the body is very as109. i could tone it down a tad. thanks.
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>>8480251
I see, thanks!
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New per thread thing I will do until people start ignoring it completely
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>>8480256
the eyes are also straight as109 with maybe a smidge of the others. I'm just pointing out how artist mixing just doesn't work with v4 such that that prompt just collapses into as109's style despite everything else trying to force it not to be
copium is in good supply right now I guess
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ignored already
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No I don't think I will.
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lol wtf are you doing
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what a good day, I should go sleep
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Just use chatgpt to make a prompt, and than make sure to properly split the prompt into the general box, character box, and of course your negative. Don't worry about the artifacts, that's just a feature because it learned so well!
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>>8480241
Thanks for "upscaling" that one.
>>8480238
Good improvement. Thanks.
>>8480246
I have this example of sorts:
>https://catbox.moe/c/yk6717
First half is the raw output and the second is the impainted works. Dunno if it will help you.
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what is bro doinnggggggggggggg
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>>8480259
Looks interesting, but I'm going to wait until a character I care about is used before I try anything.
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Who draws the softest looking huge dicks?
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>>8480269
you can do a character you care about any time, this is a chance to try something else!
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>>8480266
Thanks anon, at least I can see the difference it makes. In nai, did you just write the inpainted zones prompts, or did you keep everything?
For example, inpainting eyes, did you write "eyes" as the only tag in prompt?
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>>8480270
mamimi dicks always looked like soft socks full of toothpaste to me
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>>8480270
me :)
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>>8480260
base with as109
https://files.catbox.moe/we54y1.png
base without as109
https://files.catbox.moe/5cyg8a.png
i guess the ring eyes are as109 as well.
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>>8480190
I misread this post and just started adding {{ }} around each artist tag and it seems to make mixes better, am I experiencing placebo
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>>8480248
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>>8480259
I cant gen penises since its ramadan
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>>8480273
Those are not mine. They are from saya-anon.
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Any technical anons have an explanation for why NAI4 has so much "artifacting"? It kind of reminds me of base illustrious with how it strains the eyes.
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>>8480259
go pay someone for your dumb commission shit
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>>8480281
extreme focus on anime eye training destroys the understanding compared to realism, like you mix in millions of different eye styles and black dot eyes compared to realistic images/photos standardizing the idea of an eye
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>>8480281
that is how real illustrations look, most artist don't use high resolutions
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>>8480282
knew i'd get this dumb as fuck comment, go be negative elsewhere
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>>8480278
You should try the ass-to-ass tag
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>>8480287
this thread doesn't take requests and the the threads don't last long enough for any of that dumb shit.
if you want to see that shit do it yourself. I mean, you do have a GPU and can run the models, right? Why else would you be in this thread if you didn't?
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>>8480282
>FUN IS NOT ALLOWED
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>>8480289
stop being a negative retard and join in the casual fun compare you gen with others thing, or at least stfu, yes exactly no one needs to do requests or commissions
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How come "huge ass" or any variants like big butt work?
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>stop being NEGATIVE!
>just let me make my thinly veiled requests that I can't even fulfill myself!
>who cares that it's just asking for low effort garbage just to meet the bare minimum! it's my thinly veiled request and I WANT that!
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fuck off retard, it's a popular character there is probably 1000s of images of like this if someone wanted the concept of the image in general
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my pc is busy genning wan2.1 videos sorry bro
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>>8480295
fern anus? plz ty
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i mean ill gen 2B doggystyle but the male has to be black sorry thats just how it is
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>>8480259
post earlier in the day
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>>8480301
i'll try post them at the start of threads in future
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2b is /aco/
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>>8480303
explain this gen then >>8480279
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last one before suhur
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you know v4 is fucking bad when the thread is still this fucking dead
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>>8480304
i was going to say she has 2 anus but she is 2b so 2 anus is okay
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>>8480279
I didn't know 2B stood for 2 Buttholes...
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V4 verdict?
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>>8480313
Gens look like v2 gens
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>>8480319
I like the robot and sword details
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>>8480313
it's great. people say it's bad because you absolutely need artist tags to make it look good
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>>8480314
If it's so bad, why are you subscribed?
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>>8480116
oh my fucking god dude holy fucking shit
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>>8480259
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>>8480321
>it's melting
lol
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>>8480326
Explain what you think melting means.
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>>8480327
>it's coping
lol
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>>8480313
I'm enjoying the characters thing a lot.
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>>8480259
Fine, for this one time I'll give it a try.
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>>8480116
Learn the model instead of complaining. My provided output was more in line with the prompting required by V4. Also, just don't use artist tags?

Muted.
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>>8480116
they should put a muzzle on him for anything but LLM related discussions
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>>8480328
>it's loling
lol
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>>8480116
so is this true? >>8479163 → did they actually wind up training on a whole fuckton of AOMslop to get that result? that looks like peak civitia, nothing from base NAIv1 had that look, it only occurred after countless mixes.
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I appreciate Novelai V4 because it's easy to spot a naigger in the wild when they post an image with a shit load of artifacting and shit composition
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>>8480116
kurumuz has never been more active in years than he has right now doing damage control in the discord
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>>8480332
chills
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>>8480336
>training on a whole fuckton of AOMslop
you can upload AI slop to danbooru and it never gets deleted, only hidden. NAI downloads everything, including hidden gens, so yes. ai slop is in the datset
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>>8480331
Why the pee?
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Do you guys remember all those screenshots of Kurumuz talking shit on local models saying how badly NAI v4 was going to blow everything out of the water? I just thought about those screenshots today.
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>>8480342
it's squirt, bigot.
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>>8480343
post 'em
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>>8480313
thread is slow, thats all you need to know.
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>>8480116
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>>8480344
That is pee, sir.
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>>8480347
god he's such a smug fucking retard
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>>8480347
i dont think he understands how llms even perceive images. What does this guy even do?
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>>8480344
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>>8480351
>What does this guy even do?
he dabs on promplets in discord, get rekt paying customers
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>>8480347
>>8480332
>>8480116
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>>8480342
She couldn't hold it in and the disembodied penis didn't give her a break.
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>>8480347
If I ever get an email surveying why I canceled my subscription I'll be sure to name this stuck up retard
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even kurumuz thinks he's a retard
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>>8480355
But she's a robot.
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>>8480326
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>>8480358
It's a new feature just for this occasion.
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>>8480359
based
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>>8480116
FIRE THIS FUCKING RETARD
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>>8480347
Are all deaf people like this? Is it just a way of coping?
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>>8480360
They really do think of everything.
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>>8480116
I'm filled with an internal rage I can't describe. Imagine making your prompt, asking a simple question and then getting back the worst 1.5-esque slop humanity could possibly imagine, and not even match the same character, and this fucker acts smug about it
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>>8480259
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shiiiit the ctrl+- script is broken on nai
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>>8480357
Haha, pesky lazy customers! Eat shit, no refunds!
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>>8480367
not quite doggystyle
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>>8480366
Kek, you got me.
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>>8480370
what tag gives that cool sexy ass deformation effect?
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>>8480078
if ur a vram GOD you can just use animagine 4 as a refiner at like 0.3-0.5 depending on your steps. just make sure to change it to allow to store 2 models in ur vram or else it'll take a really long time for gens because u have to unload/load models back and forth between gens.
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>>8480365
>>8480357
>>8480354
JUST USE CHATGPT BRO
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>>8480376
ass_ripple
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NovelAI V4, ChatGPT, {{{{AOM}}}}
eeeeeyup. Another day another coom
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>>8480116
this makes me as angry as that stupid megaman laptop picture from years ago
bravo
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Guys, stop bullying the NAI employees. Local has NO TALENT and only they have the secret sauce.
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>>8480379
oh I see, thanks!
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local is still catching upto v3 btw
V4 is the bestest anime model for the next 5 years, retarded local chumps cant even fathom our new architecture
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FINETUNE WAS LURKING THE THREADS AND SAW THE 1.5SLOP REIMU BASE GENS LOOOOL
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honestly the v4 gens of anime screenshots im seeing on other boards look pretty good too bad its all blacked and cuckshit
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so it really is that easy to get a shit ton of requests fulfilled for what you want
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>>8480382
I wonder If nai's implementation of SMEA was incorrect, does that mean local got it right?
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>>8480259
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>>8480389
this post radiates anger, why is that?
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>>8480388
because anime screenshot is literally the only style that works as artist mixes are dead and weights on the majority of artists is completely fucked
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>>8480387
YOU SHOULD STOP WRITING IN CAPS
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>>8480387
they are 100% lurking this thread, they were even posting last night
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>>8480383
*donk*
no problem
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>>8480391
she happy
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>>8480387
I saw that and he doesn't touch on it more than prompt guidance
They know something's fucked with the model
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>>8480388
you can reuse their ideas and make your own stuff for fetishes you like, they indeed are experimenting and finding cool stuff
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>>8480387
Finetune you are the best Anlatan member I love you
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>>8480397
Daaaaaamn! I need to see this gape.
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how did nai v3 came to be with retards such as kurumud and wizardhat
is aini and finetune guy that good?
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>>8480387
unbothered
testing
'tuning
best employee
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>>8480386
>>8480319
box please?
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>>8480404
based
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>>8480400
NTA but that's exactly what I do, they got really nice gens going.
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>>8480388
what boards?
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>>8480408
now that's great prompt comprehension
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>>8480116
>>8480357
why are discord moderator types always like this? dude has zero self awareness, hope he goes homeless.
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RIP
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adult pussy
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>>8480411
when you accept the answer to the janitor question you reach true understanding
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>>8480415
like clockwork
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>>8480412
Sovlful Noob masterpiece
>>8480387
Our new and best model
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adult penis
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>billion hours compute to take steps back because they thought they knew better than stability
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Maybe LAX will be able to teach Kurumuz how to properly finetune a model.
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>>8480420
holy shit ayakon
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>>8480259
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ok who's saving local now?
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>>8480420
What the fuck?
Astralite just won
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if someone can explain how do i tile upscale (do i use that xinsir union promax model or what?), i'll post 2b doggystyle
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>>8480424
LAXHAR Dream Lab NOOBAI V2.0
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>>8480424
Illustrious v2 will break new ground.
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>>8480427
this, but unironically
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>>8480421
We owe him an apology, he surely did better than naicucks
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>>8480424
Emad
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>>8480426
I can explain but you have to post mushy cunny instead.
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>>8480432
i'll post both
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>>8480116
Holy shit!
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Alright, guess I don't mind this angle just this once
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schizo moment or did they do something to V3?

i swear to god maybe my brains tuned to must from staring at V4 trash, but I'm starting to see similar textures on the dicks of my dudes in my mix that I saw in V4 but in V3
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>>8480416
>janitor question
I don't know what exactly it means but the point is to shut up and say nothing if all you have to offer is just being a smug fuck and not even a good one.
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>>8480433
https://huggingface.co/Eugeoter/noob-sdxl-controlnet-tile/blob/main/diffusion_pytorch_model.fp16.safetensors
Download this, do x1.5 in img2img with 0.6 denoise, 0.3 control weight, 0 start step, 1 end step. Hope that helps.
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>>8480436
Maybe they updated v3?
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>>8480116
>"How's this?"
>sd1 looking gen
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>>8480438
what sampler/scheduler would you suggest for upscaling?
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actually it's bad if you preserve unique tags
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taking bets if he starts spamming
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Even reddit's complaining about v4
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>>8480444
careful or the king will banish you from his kingdom
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>>8480351
>What does this guy even do?
He heads up NAI’s LLM division, which explains why it’s an utter shitshow—he fundamentally doesn’t understand how they work.
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>>8480441
>>8480441
The same you'd use for base gen? Or you can change it if you like, it doesn't really matter
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>>8480444
shit like this just makes me wish some other researcher would come out and completely mog him on a technical level for everyone to see
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>>8480451
unfortunately a lot of researchers really only care about new discoveries and not creating great models
those who DO care about making models make generalized ones like flux or wan
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>>8480452
yeah or are brain drained into LLM big money land, which I don't blame them
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>>8480448
I don't think anyone in that company understands how anything work. They got compute and are throwing shit at the wall lol
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ayakon is getting curb stomped by kurumuz in the 'cord rn
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>>8480451
DO NOT CORRECT HIM
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This whole v4 fiasco is so embarrassing and funny lmao.
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>>8480456
I mean, a sufficiently large lr will definitely scramble the model weights to near random, think lr=69420 or some shit, you just leap across local minima and forget everything
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she came out of the wildcards, I don't like blindfolds
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>>8480459
i'd define that as training it wrong though
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why is ayakon who is still using pony arguing about the quality of nai which he has never used
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>>8480456
he still thinks he made V3 and didn't just luck into it like ponyfucker
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>>8480463
making people angry despite having no stake in the argument is fun
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>>8480463
muh AI bro "I know tech" ego, what else is are they gonna do with their time, they sure aren't doing any real groundbreaking research or tooling development
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how will local ever recover? the compositional capacity of this model is astounding
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>>8480444
>basically had nothing from the original model
Except that's blatantly untrue, v3 definitely had non-booru concepts, they were weak, but still there.
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What have I missed these past couple of weeks? Anything exciting?
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>>8480426
>>8480259
still not satisfied with my tile upscale settings, maybe i should stick to basic hires fix...
>>8480432
alright, here's your mushy cunny
https://files.catbox.moe/561o3p.jpg
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>>8480472
last two threads have some exciting things in them
NAIV4 was a failbake is your tldr
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Can someone explain why v4 sucks to a retard that knows zero about the actual workings of AI?
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>>8480420
>>8480477
this one is most important
Stability was the researcher level billion pound project, nai is a bunch of morons who think they can do a better job
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>>8480473
damn
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adult kiss
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>>8480420
everyone knows better than nustability now. v4 is better than SD3. robin is the only one who knew anything at that C-tier company, which is why flux handles text better than NAI and flux loras capture style infinitely better as well.
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>>8480473
It's not very mushy. Have you selected preprocessor? What model do you use? Sampler/Scheduler? Maybe it's just your artist mix.
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DO NOT REDEEM
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>>8480484
the people who train flux are the only ones in the ""local"" sphere who know how to cook. to the point that nuking nsfw generation without harming the model was childs play.
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>>8480486
wtf...
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>>8480485
>Have you selected preprocessor?
shit, no, should i? tile_resample?
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>>8480489
Yes.
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>>8480259
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>>8480489
nyo
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>>8480259
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>>8480491
>white dude
Boooooooooring
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>actually some pretty good takes on 2b
thread challenge was a good idea actually, if you are not a miserable cynic you can do cool things
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>>8480491
>white dude
incredibly based, saying this unironically
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>>8480499
i welcome it
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>>8480499
>lets just turn this entire thread into /slop/ requestfest
yeah im glad im not a cynic this is super based
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i'm redeeming
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https://rentry.org/EmanonSlider_v2_pt1
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>>8480504
What is this? Genuinely asking
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>>8480502
>there is literally no difference between request spam and one post with a high level idea
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>>8480505
how to make slider loras that dont affect style or etc
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>>8480505
Just the updated method of making copier/slider lora. Means for simple concepts like tinting things you don't need a lot of images.
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>>8480487
Isn't Flux composed of OG stability researchers? Makes sense thinking like that
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>>8480503
SAAAAAAR NOOOOOO
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>>8480502
>/slop/
>this place
no, not really.
nobody is requesting futas with a dark ugly penis with smegma here. or some cub gens. or bestiality.
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>>8480512
iirc they're the people who developed the tech that stable diffusion was based off of, latent diffusion
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>>8480514
i wouldnt be opposed to some of these 2b doggystyle gens being with actual dogs though...
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>>8480473
I would be very concerned about that half-fallen building just above my head.
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>>8480504
Cool, thanks for sharing.
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>>8480508
>>8480510
Thanks guys
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>>8480514
>nobody is requesting futas with a dark ugly penis with smegma here. or some cub gens. or bestiality.
good way to manifest it. cant wait for spiters to do exactly this and then say SEE!!! BAD IDEA!!!
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>>8480521
its not possible because we're in /h/. and here you can actually report such images if they ever get posted.
why?
because this is /h/, not /trash/, mr. einstein.
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>>8480522
Why is she blue
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>>8480524
yea they'll be removed only right as the thread is about to slip into archives :)
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>>8480514
>>8480521
>dark ugly penis with smegma

>futa
EWWW DIGSUTING
>blacked
fukken BASED!!!
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>>8480259
i enjoy this. please keep it up anon.
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My god why are you people so fucking pessimists? Almost like I'm talking to a wall. But the wall has a graffiti of a sad face.
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>>8480525
dabaadee daboodie
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v4 just isn’t doing it for me. I appreciate that the dataset is newer but the look is wrong. Maybe I’ll learn local or something.
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If you just want a hugbox maybe reddit is more your speed?
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>>8480529
Give me a single reason why I should believe things will get better besides empty-headed “”””””optimism“””””” from stupid fucks.
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>>8480533
because noob got better
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>>8480531
No smea/dyn has it not having the detail of v3 and leaving it look more slop like
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DOES THIS MEANS LOCAL AND ITS LORAS JUST DEFEATED NAI???!?!!!!?!!!? WE... WON?!?!!??!
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>>8480534
When?
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it will get better, you just have to pay more shekels ;)
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i want to see bishie boys plappin you're waifu, none of this faceless male fat man head out of frame nonsense
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i still cant cook loras that work at a higher resolution than base
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>>8480536
Yup. Kurumuz actually just announced his suicide in the discord and Novel AI filed for bankruptcy.
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>>8480539
I unironically wondered if it would help if I increased the step count into anlas range and it didn’t.
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>>8480542
fucking finally
we're so back
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>>8480504
you don't really need consistency in the pose/angle of the training images to get this effect
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Is ForgeCouple still not following my prompt 60% of the time or did it got better nowadays? Is new Forge worth it now?
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>>8480535
>make your own image diffusion model
>made smea in the first place
>don't think of getting ahead of it and making it so that smea is natively supported by the model from the get go
what did kurumuz mean by this?
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>>8480543
maybe a direct donation to kurumuz will help?
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>>8480549
smea only works on SD based models
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>>8480551
Maybe he should’ve recognized his limitations and not tried to build a new arch then.
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>>8480542
nig if true
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>>8480259
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So... You guys were complaining about CLIP being shit all this time, but turns out that when NAI decided not to use it, then you guys start whining about not having SMEA or that artist mixing stopped working. But this was all thanks to CLIP.
YOU ALL ARE UNGRATEFUL PIECES OF SHIT. YOU SHALL KNEEL BEFORE CLIP.
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>>8480531
>Maybe I’ll learn local
Do not use comfyUI
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>>8480557
give 5 valid reasons that dont boil down to a skill issue and refusal to learn
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>>8480558
i refuse to learn
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>>8480558
NTA but if he is gonna start out comfy is a pretty bad idea, I say as a comfy user
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>>8480558
comfy sounds like saying cum and that's gay
nodes have the word no in it so no
i never went to school is that 5?
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>>8480558
Nobody should start their ai journey on the most autistic piece of ai gen software.
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>>8480558
forge does everything comfy does better, comfy is obtuse for the sake of it just like when people insist on using linux for gaming
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>>8480558
More like uncomfyUI
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>>8480525
was trying to gen yool with blue body paint and it made a girl that was entirely blue and I just went with it
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If you think NAI4 is bad, just wait for pony v7..
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>rip on new model
>some naishill figures it out after a few months
>posts mog local boring gens
>general breaks and devolves into IRONIC meming ("its nai")
>other anons silently seethe at naishills superiority

It's happened before, i'm wagering it will happen again.
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using a node based GUI for inference is really embarrassing
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im automating workflows that gradiochuds cant even fathom
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>>8480568
I want that to be true, but when shutenanon is saying the model is shit it's over...
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I just gen lole
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>>8480572
how many layers of snake oil are you covered in?
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>>8480575
very little actually, just some perturbed attention guidance and some occasional regional prompting
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>>8480567
Considering their previews are already bad the actual model is going to be horrific
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>>8480576
i just click a button for those
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>>8480576
so what's the point of clutter if webuis can do the same? queuing the slop?
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>>8480577
Speaking of that, any new lore from the pony 'cord? Surely the hugbox must have been compromised at some point.
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SOVL IS POSSIBLE!!!!
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>>8480581
Y is it so...
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tailjobs
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>>8480581
it looks like an artist drew it :O
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>>8480584
BASED
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>>8480581
this is pony v7
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>>8480555
catbox please? sexy gen
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When will DeepSeek release their hentai model
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>DEEPseek
>it's textgen
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>even the blacked waifu general on /trash/ says V4 is garbage
It's so over
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>>8480593
Dude, all you have to do is use chatgpt to make a prompt. HELLLOOOOOO
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>>8480593
That’s because they can’t use the generic /trash/ artist set. cutesexyrobutts IMMEDIATELY overpowers every other fucking artist tag and it comes out looking like complete shit.
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why did blackforestlabs never release an undistilled model, did they intentionally neuter any local training capabilities?
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For local on noob what's a good number of images from a single artist that it would actually affect the artstyle of a gen? About tree fiddy?
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>>8480598
about 150
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>>8480598
Artists with as little as 30-40 images can work if you weigh them high enough - some need tags like newest/year tags/etc to make them stronger (idk why).
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Anyone ever messed with the Wan2.1 image to video?

Good results or more trash ai hentai videos?
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>>8480595
Tell your higher-ups to introduce prompt editing from A1111. Won't fix the artifacts but will at least help with style mixing. Go, do it.
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>>8480597
I wonder if you can train wan for images, it's undistilled as far as I know has uncesnored and has a big and small version. I think one of the developers was saying it's also a really good image model.
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>>8478500 →
thank you, didnt see your catbox since it was after new thread
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>>8480608
you can, it's surprisingly good at T2I. desu, may try
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>>8480116
what the fuck is going on in anlatan
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>>8480606
One of the anons here made a sex LoRA for it, seems to be good
https://civitai.com/models/1307155/wan-general-nsfw-model?modelVersionId=1475095
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WAN2.1, please create Lora first. We can talk about it afterwards. Generating with Lora will work well.
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okay
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>>8480613
Yeah man I understand you
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I actually have a leftover gift key that I bought from someone I know around September (can't sub with my card). Didn't use it because was having fun with local and felt like leaving it for v4, but man it looks disappointing.
Maybe I'll still use it for v3, it's much faster than my shitrig can do local and I still like the model anyway.
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>>8480612
Based. Thanks anon.
This is great progress, even if its still a little wonky.
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>>8480116
kekorino. Autists make the best trolls.
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>>8480611
Just like pony, they just exposed that they basically got lucky with V3 and that it was a flash in a pan. It's best feature (style mixing ) is basically an unintended bug.
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>>8480623
I kneel
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>>8480620
SDXL proving once again to be the God Model Of All Time (GMOAT). NAI3, Pony, Illustrious, Noob. No other base model has had such a run of successes like SDXL. It will remain local's go-to for decades to come
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>>8480625
>It will remain local's go-to for decades to come
NOOOOO STOP IT SHUT UP
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>>8480623
those are painted balloons, i refuse to believe otherwise
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>>8480623
Childs
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>>8480626
Noob is the last hentai model you will use. All other bakes will fail. You will be stuck on noob forever.
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>>8480631
I thought PonyV6 was the last model?
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>>8480631
>You will be stuck on noob forever.
i think i'm alright with that
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>>8480116
Motherfuckers aren't serious are they? Does that idiot not notice how shit that looks? That same fucking moron pinned a horrid looking gen as a showcase of the "features of v4" and then acts smug to anyone who says it looks worse than v3
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>>8480631
Noob can be updated though
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>you will use v1+v29b-v2 and you will like it
Everything turned out better than v4
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Listen chud, style mixing is unintended just like our SMEA implementation. CLIP is bad, you WILL embrace t5 and use gpt to make your prompts.
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>>8480631
Better Noob than being stuck on Pony.
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>>8480631
>You will be stuck on noob forever.
Could have been way worse tbqh
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>>8480635
post the gen
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We love pony around these parts
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>>8480638
Nah, I think I just won’t sub.
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>>8480644
'they' pronoun was cancelled, retard
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Just make V3 with updated dataset ffs
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>>8480648
They’re too retarded for that.
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>>8480642
Behold, our latest advanced model!
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>>8480650
geg
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>>8480650
lmfao
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>>8480650
there is zero chance this is something he posted
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>>8480650
Come on post the screencap, I want to laugh
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>>8480650
AOMbros, we are SO back
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>>8480656
>>8480657
damn
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>>8480650
>>8480656
>>8480657
no fucking way, this dude HAS to be compromised
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>>8480656
>>8480650
LMFAOOO
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A reminder.
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>>8480656
>>8480657
>undesired content: blurry
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>>8480657
>>8480656
Holy fuck I'm in tears
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>>8480650
>>8480656
GOOD LORD ABOVE
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Can we get jordachs opinion on this topic
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>>8480656
They really need to let Sage go as their PR guy. Dude just comes off as an asshole no matter what he is talking about.
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>>8480662
A reminder.
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>>8480656
???
The fuck is with all the useless information he put in each character prompt, is this guy fucking retarded?
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>>8480650
looks like a showcase for V1
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>>8480650
You're fucking kidding
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>>8480608
does the new wan uses 16channel vae? also, what hardware reqs for the big and the small models?
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>>8480656
text csam
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>>8480656
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>>8480673
yes and it also uses (modified) t5 :)
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>>8480656
why is it so blurry
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>>8480656
>>8480657
EVERYTHING’S SO BLURRY AND EVERYONE’S SO FAKE
AND EVERYBODY’S EMPTY AND EVERYTHING IS SO MESSED UP
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>>8480668
he is perfect just the way he is
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>>8480623
b-box?!
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>>8480650
>>8480656
... SDXL based models are still going to be standard for another 2-3 years.

AI hentai tech has stagnated.
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tried v4, got cropping issues, has anybody got them? is it the model or just the tags i'm using?
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>>8480222
how is that a problem as long as the result is good? I dont care about my gen looking the same at every steps
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>>8480669
>>8480656
>>8480650
>the fucked up artifacts
>the blurriness
>the SD 1.5 worse than V1 quality
AYYEE BRUHH
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>>8480681
Pony v6.5
NAI v3.5
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this NAI hate reeks of samefagging
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>>8480673
Big one has 3 versions 720P image to video, 480 p image to video and 720 text to video, as a full model they take almost 24gb of VRAM but there a Quants so you can go as little as 12gb for those.
The 1.3B model is the small one which takes around 5-6GB of Vram
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>>8480669
>>8480684
I used to make less {{{{{{{{{{ai-generated}}}}}}}}}} stuff than this on based64, what the fuck?
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>>8480686
Get back on the ‘cord, Sage.
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>>8480686
this so much
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>>8480555
holy based gen, been a while since I saved one
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Every gen I make on V4, I just think “This would look better on V3 if they’d updated the dataset instead.”
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>>8480693
>>8480648
>>8479971
Never ever.
Just wait for v5 (v4+patches).
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We have a premise that we are embarrassed, and since all local T5 projects have failed, let's extract static images using video models. This will be the basis of our discussion. However, I think Wan will work well, as I don’t see any obstacles. First, we need to create things like Lora and study the quirks.
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>>8480695
No, I don’t think I will. You fucked up.
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>>8480696
please use Claude Sonnet 3.7 as your translator and not one from 2006
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>>8480694
how the fuck did you manage to make something like that
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>>8480694
/weg/gods eating good
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>>8480694
wow what a big sexy girl with huge bazongas
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>>8480656
GET ON YOUR KNEES AND APOLOGIZE FOR HOW YOU ALL TREATED CUTE EUGE
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>>8480694
Local could NEVER
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>>8480656
ChatGPT could have helped
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>>8480699
03mini free
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>>8480707
yeah but we dont understand what you're saying
google translate would be better than o3 mini
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naiv4
the ultimate cuckold model
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>>8480662
>>8480656
>>8480116
>>8480650
dude someone needs to lay this guy off what the FUCK
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>>8480711
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>>8480711
>>8480712
THIS HAS TO BE ON PURPOSE WTF
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occultsage is a rather unexpected lolcow but certainly an entertaining one
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>>8480711
>>8480712
I mean, those have a consistent AOM style, he's not wrong
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>>8480708
We are using the ChatGPT recommended by NAI.
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>>8480711
>>8480712
Based insider.
TOTAL NAI DEATH
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>>8480711
>>8480712
>dude, um, the 1girl… lying…
We’re actually REGRESSING technologically.
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>>8480711
>>8480712
Yeah. I will just stick with my noob shitmix. This level of denial may just make me cancel my NAI sub.
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>>8480711
I wish I could get paid to do this too
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>>8480711
>>8480712
>>8480711
>>8480712
They have to be baiting us specifically at this point, there is no fucking way.
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>>8480711
Oh my lord
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>>8480711
>>8480712
It's fucking over. Why can't they just shut the fuck up? Failbakes can happen, okay, but after this disastrous damage control I have absolutely no expectations about anything they will ever do again.
Just fucking hack them and give v3 for people already.
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>>8480711
real genuine advice given from a dev to the end user btw
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AOMNATION!!!!!! LET'S MAKE SOME NOISEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
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>>8480725
RETURN TO THE ROOTS
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>>8480725
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
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>>8480726
The Ako sex...
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>>8480706
catbo?
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>>8480723
Sage literally cannot ever shut the fuck up. He will constantly just state people have skill issues even if it isn't a skill issue and the model is just trash.
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Odds of they firing that guy and he leaking V3 in revenge?
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>>8480725
Vgh.... Trvdition...
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>>8480714
>>8480717
>>8480718
>>8480716
>>8480720
>>8480721
>>8480723
>>8480722
>>8480724
Just...write. retard
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>>8480733
0 because they’re legally fuck him to death if he did.
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>>8480733
Yes Bro He leak Model in RAGE
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>>8480738
But what if terminal mental ilnis?
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>>8480740
i fak all
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I would still kill for v3 leak ngl
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Maybe I was being a little bit too harsh with Astrallite.....
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>>8480744
Astralite is even worse, the only based bakers are Euge/LAX.
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>>8480746
true
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>>8480746
>LAX
*adds millions of cosplayer photos to your bake for no reason*
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Keep posting 'cord screenshots, I'm so close to CUMMING
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I'm not gonna say precisely what it is because I don't want to just spoonfeed analtan (i know they're ITT) but there's something really fun you can do by messing with something that should have a cap but doesn't.
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writefags... we won so bigly!
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>>8480749
Honestly their shit show has given me more entertainment than any gen here lol
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>>8480751
If I wanted to write, I’d talk to chatbots. And I do. That’s why I don’t want to fucking write for image gen.
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>>8480748
yeah and that's exactly what novelai didn't do, and
how did that turn out???
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>>8480726
box?
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>>8480757
Actually true kek
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>>8480711
>>8480712
I fucking told you people. >>8480175
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>>8480757
Cosplayer pics was the secret sauce all along. Euge/LAX sama I kneel
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>>8480761
erm, 3d has the same benefits irl pictures have for anatomy, doe?
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>>8480670
He's the LLM guy, I think. Nigga under the impression you prompt like you fill a SillyTavern char.
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All roads lead back to AOM
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I miss the day before v4 released, when I still had hope.
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why did alibaba use umt5 and not something like gemma
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>>8480711
>Just... write
Can we make adopt it for the general? It's been a while since we had this much goldust.
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I FEEL SOMETHING COMING...
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bros i give up. i'm just gonna go back to baking loras.
do i bake on illu0.1, illu1.0, noobeps0.5, noobeps0.6 or noobvpred1.0?
its all a mess to me at this point
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>>8480764
Makes sense desu, NAI's LLM so fucking shit only reason people even use it is because it's uncensored (and V3)
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MAKE HIS FIGHT ON THE HILL IN THE EARLY DAY
CONSTANT CHILL DEEP INSIDE
SHOUTING GUN, ON THEY RUN THROUGH THE ENDLESS GREY
OH THEY FIGHT, FOR THE RIGHT, YES, BUT WHO'S TO SAY?
FOR A HILL, MEN WOULD KILL, WHY? THEY DO NOT KNOW
STIFFENED WOUNDS TEST THEIR PRIDE
MEN OF FIVE, STILL ALIVE THROUGH THE RAGING GLOW
GONE INSANE FROM THE PAIN THAT THEY SURELY KNOW
FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS
TIME MARCHES ON
FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS
TAKE A LOOK TO THE SKY JUST BEFORE YOU DIE
IT'S THE LAST TIME YOU WILL
BLACKENED ROAR, MASSIVE ROAR FILLS THE CRUMBLING SKY
SHATTERED GOAL FILLS HIS SOUL WITH A RUTHLESS CRY
STRANGER NOW ARE HIS EYES TO THIS MYSTERY
HEARS THE SILENCE SO LOUD
CRACK OF DAWN, ALL IS GONE EXCEPT THE WILL TO BE
NOW THEY SEE WHAT WILL BE, BLINDED EYES TO SEE
FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS
TIME MARCHES ON
FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS
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>>8480774
that’s just me, sorry
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>>8480777
go bake on noobvpred1.0 if its the model youre using atm
go bake on illu1.0 if its the model youre using atm
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>>8480777
bake on wan2.1
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>>8480779
BASED xi
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CLIP can go fuck itself in the ass.
There, I said it.
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>>8480784
You cannot say that....
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Birdschizo status?
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>>8480781
alright mate, i don't suppose illu1.0 loras will be compatible with noob vpred?

>>8480782
isn't wan a video model? how different is the training process / data prep? i'm honestly curious
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>>8480777
believe in yourself kurumuz, surely its just a temporary setback!
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>>8480779
>guess which one is v4?
>The worse one
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>>8480788
>i don't suppose illu1.0 loras will be compatible with noob vpred?
They are, actually. But there's no real reason to bake on that model, do noob eps 0.5 or the v-pred model you're currently using
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>>8480788
Image models are just video models with a frame of 1. Being serious though, you probably better wait till kohya or onetrainer add support for that. Currently you can only train wan through diffusion pipe which pain in the ass.
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Its a skill issue bro!!!!!!
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THAT'S ME IN THE CORNER
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>>8480788
>how different is the training process
so from what ive seen, you can train it with both images and videos. dataset-wise i believe it's similar too, videos just need a caption text file. diffusion-pipe supports it
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How long does it take to train a Lora anyway? Maybe I should try getting into it.
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I grieve in stereo, the stereo sounds strange
I know that if you hide, it doesn't go away
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>>8480796
just like always
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TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN
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>>8480779
JUST USE CHATGPT
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>>8480796
LOSING MY SMEADYN
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>>8480796
…Nobody puts Anonymous in the corner.
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The sad truth is that we are in the minority

Most normies don't have a gpu or even a PC capable of running SDXL at a decent speed, let alone installing and setting Noob/Illustrious
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>>8480807
yes and those people are civitai localchads, not naifags
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>>8480779
sage my beloved lolcow
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>>8480807
That didn't stop me. Had to spend several hours reading and lurking lot of shit but it was worth it in the end.
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>>8480793
Alright, I guess I'll continue to bake on vpred1.0.
I previously tried baking loras on illu0.1 and using them on vpred1.0, but my results were rather mixed.
Some styles that were originally weak in vpred were able to be replicated decently well in vpred using the illu lora and had better color contrast compared to the vpred loras i trained. Albeit I do wonder if it is because of the dataset being biased towards white / grey backgrounds led the vpred version to 'lose' darkness and contrast...
On the other hand, when training loras for styles that vpred1.0& illu0.1 inherently did not know, i got melted outputs when using the illu lora on vpred...

>>8480794
>>8480797
Oh that's cool that it can be trained on both images and videos.
I saw that diffusion-pipe requires linux, guess I'll wait for a windows implementation
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>>8480259
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>>8480811
setting it up isn't hard people are just retarded
there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW that boughted NAI not because their PC can't handle it but because they're so fucking stupid they can't setup local
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>>8480813
there's also this, which may work on windows, unsure. it's the one wan has listed on their github. https://github.com/modelscope/DiffSynth-Studio
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>>8480813
I'll probably follow up with an initial train of the same datasets on illu1.0 and testing it on vpred.
I'm also rather curious if illu1.0 converges easier as i found training on illu0.1 quite unstable
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>>8480798

My LoRa takes up 8 hours... cause I am autistic about small details that needs to be correct as much as possible. Haven't arrived at the zenith... But I am trying.
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More screenshots please, I'm gooning.
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>>8480798
it takes me around 1hr to bake a lora on a 3090. although the testing is what usually holds me back
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>>8480807
What if people who don't have good GPUs spent $10/month on Google Colab Pro instead of $25 on NAI? Like me.
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>>8479742
Unironically how are commissioned artists coping with this?
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>>8480819
>8 hours
Jeez, I hope the end result is worth the effort.
>>8480822
That sounds a bit more reasonable, I might look into it a bit.
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https://files.catbox.moe/2pmbg9.png
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>>8480824
Most are on their performative weepy rape victim soap box crying about how AI images look too legitimately now after they spent the first year of its existence crowing over how nobody would ever get fooled by AI because they were too stupid to understand that technology evolves. Some just don’t care and either use it as a tool or don’t feel threatened.
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>>8480829
>look too legitimately
*look too legitimate
I’m tired. I’ve had a very long day.
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>>8480823
Different anon but good for you if you like local and take advantage of it.
I chose the multi-account path.
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>>8480813
Give training on illu 1.0 a shot if you like, it seems better than 0.1 but not necessarily better than eps 0.5 or directly on v-pred.
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>>8480807
What, like salted email account? I thoughts you couldn't do that on civit
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>>8480555
Super hot, love the size difference.
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>>8480819
settings?
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how consistent is v4 at making cooperative_fellatio with 2 different monster girl species?
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>>8480844
give me your specific idea and i will test it for you
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>>8480555
amazing gen sir box it yes
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>>8480845
just a brown oni girl and pale skin dragon girl with red cheek/hand scales and tail sucking of human boy that sits on sofa
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>>8480843

Kohya-SS GUI, for Nvidia 4090. Reduce Batch size if you don't have enough Vram.

Dataset is what matters. Garbage in, garbage out.

Base model OpenIllustriousv1. Seems to gen correctly on all Illustrious/Noob models to varying degrees. Reminder that my goal is small details... if you want speed, get another config from another anon.

https://files.catbox.moe/mscgn0.json
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can confirm that v4 inpainting works really good, enough for me to keep my sub
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>>8480848
>Dataset is what matters. Garbage in, garbage out.
willing to upload your dataset somewhere? i wanna see a reference
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>>8480849
Same. Just... write.
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>>8480848
nta but what are the block_alphas and block_dims in your config for?
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>>8480849
Proofsies?
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>>8480848
Batch size always makes the result look like shit for me regardless of VRAM usage (I have a 4090)
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>>8480850

A few learning pains from training:
>If you don't have data on the shoes... the shoes changes.
>If you have too many leg shots... you gen headless pics.
>If you don't tag the tiniest trinkets... you can't remove them.

https://mega.nz/folder/d0lhhAjR#vZtk-VBkh4r8rZVnvIblVg
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>>8480858
v3 could do that too. Well if it isn't a downgrade it's good enough I suppose.
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>>8480861
yeah, but it's noticeably easier to work with, and has the improved character knowledge and better fine details, so that's cool. still lacking but maybe the vibe update will fix that.
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>>8480205
classic artists don't work on v4, don't bother
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However was the anon that gave free V4 yesterday, I want to thank you so much.

I didn't have to waste any money to test the overhyped piece of shit. Some anons here are cool.
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>>8480865
Satori does not have tits like those.
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>>8480854

I don't know what it does, the original prodigy config was posted by /hdg/ anons like 2 years ago.
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>>8480869
It's the Taimanin Satori continuity.
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>>8480869
Every single 2hu deserves to have fat tits.
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>>8480742
Why? Noob basically has surpassed it
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>>8480873
nta but v3 aesthetics and artist tags are still better. people are still baking loras from v3 artist mixes because they worked better on NAI. it's not good enough to pay for it sure but I would still prefer it to noob as a local model.
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>>8480631
not a big deal at all desu
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>>8480869
chat is this real?
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>>8480877
Pretty crazy how we went from "NAI v3 has such a nice aesthetic and is so good at mixing artists that local trains loras on their gens" to >>8480779
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>>8480862
nice
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>>8480877
imo not even just the lack of furry artists. some artists like jcm2 are abysmal on v3 but look great in noob
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>>8480882
what?
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Any predictions on how fast the vibe will shift? Sooner or later there's going to be people here praising NaiV4
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>>8480888
When the check clears and people “organically” just show up to take v4 up coincidentally all at the same time.
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if there's one thing v4 seems to be better at it's pussies. visually it's very hard to wrangle. I was in a coma for a few weeks so I didn't realize it had released and I'm fairly disappointed with it.
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>>8480888
We already have them in this thread. Because apparently being able to gen Burnice getting BLACKED is worth no artist mixing, artifacts and the SD1.5 aesthetic.
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>>8480803
holy fuvck
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>>8480888
the exact same shit was happening when v3 released, thread was still bitching months after people learned how to use it
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leak kummuz's dataset
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>>8480259
ai and hands name a better duo
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they increased max config up to 20 and removed decrisp. wtf?
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>>8480895
No it wasn't. v3 throatfucking ugly local slop was almost immediately obvious to anyone who didn't drink the freejeet koolaid. v4 looks like garbage, a downgrade from SDXL with exactly 2 quirks. Some shit T5 does is fun but it ultimately looks like garbage.
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Don’t let anything distract you from the fact that the advice of the official NAI’s staff to make your gens look better is literally “just write” with no further clarification.
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>>8480900
Yeah it's a weird thing to say, V3 was the first model that can do sex out of the box without wrangling, the wow factor was obvious to anyone. This one meh
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>>8480901
thisssssss
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>>8480869
proofs?
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>>8480898
wtf it's good at 3d?
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>>8480900
>No it wasn't. v3 throatfucking ugly local slop was almost immediately obvious to anyone who didn't drink the freejeet koolaid.
yes, and the threads were recommending some bullshit hacky 1.5 fur model. I agree v4 looks awful
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But would you pick SMEA or V3 if you could only have one?
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>>8480907
It's image to video I think
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>>8480910
smea, if it would fix vpred 1.0 burning up
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>>8480910
V3, SMEAr was something NAIgroids needed to make up for being stuck at base gen
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>>8480900
this is true, i scraped it.
https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/7701960
76% of the images in that thread are from NAI v3/contain v3 metadata. NAI dominated the 3 months after its release until pony, with at least 50% of images in the threads being NAI gens. v4 completely failed in comparison
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NAI v4 sure can produce some wild-ass shit
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so is nai smea anything like euler smea for local
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>>8480917
why didn't you gen shrek stomping his child?
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>>8480890
On local, pussies are a solved problem as long as you neg out "bar censor".

>>8480907
Wan was mainly trained on photorealism and 3D. It has to be hacked to handle anime: right now, the most convenient way to do it is with i2v, but maybe more anime LoRAs can be trained for it later.
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>>8480917
BRUH
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>>8480917
what the fuck lmao
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>>8480918
No.
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Local cant do anal birth without a lora, kurumuz won!!!
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>>8480911
pretty sure that's the anon training loras for the T2V model
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>>8480910
smea didn't work in img2img so if your style depended on it you were fucked
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>>8480917
uhm, excuse me?
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>>8480920
Are there optimizations out yet that let Wan fit in 12 GB of VRAM? I don't care if it'll take 5 minutes to gen a 5 second vid, that's in the ballpark of how long a batch of 4 images Hires. fixed to double the resolution takes to gen, and I only gen batches of 4 images because they're static, one vid would be an adequate replacement.
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>>8480925
This is deranged but seems like there are some benefits from T5 at least, clip would never. They really should have done the Flux thing with dual text encoders though.
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>>8480925
...are you sure?
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>>8480929
It's not that dramatic.
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>>8480925
>>8480933
jesus christ, it can...
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>>8480937
local?
well...
it wonned
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>>8480937
its e621
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>>8480916
>asura (asurauser)
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>>8480925
e621 is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural
https://files.catbox.moe/vbd6ov.png
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>>8480939
furry data is worth it's weight in "gold" for lack of a better term. but somehow NAI fucked it up compared to a bunch of chinks
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>>8480916
such civility in that thread
over a year later and the thread has become... this.
what happened?
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>>8480942
Turns out that the chinks weren't as stupid as the Fields Medal winners that all gather here said and that V3 was just a fluke.
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>>8480943
overhyping a model due to losing paypigs to local
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>>8480943
Freejesh stopped taking his meds in February and turned this place into a console war shithole. All the shitposting followed.
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>>8480711
>>8480712
Its.....its GAWDlike....v4 won
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>>8480920
yeah that looks great. I was talking purely in comparison to v3, which can produce some really fucked up looking pussymeat. From what I've seen local is at least on par with v3 with some obvious advantages over it but at the moment it's a bit inconvenient for me.
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>>>/v/704322793
>>>/v/704322954
v4 can do that? Holy crap!
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>ctrl + f "kurumuz"
>previous thread: 47
>current thread: 22
Christ give it a rest already
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>>8480333
He's retarded about LLMs too.
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>>8480931
https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1izay2m/whats_the_current_best_way_to_run_wan_i2v_with_12/?rdt=40487
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>>8480953
t. kurumuz
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>>8480712
>>8480711
>>8480116
AOMbros... we... won...
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Noob wonned in the end
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>>8480955
>comfy
Yeah I think I'll wait for something for reForge. Maybe there will be actual finetunes/LoRAs for 2D.
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>>8480960
Anon...
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>>8480920
i2v training script?
and what hardware
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why are things like this
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>>8480964
(((they))) don't care for hentai image/video gen
in fact they're inclined to make it illegal worst case
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>>8480963
>i2v training script?
doesnt exist yet, only T2V
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>>8480387
Those gens were posted in the discord too.
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V4 could never
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>>8480970
It's not fucking joke that it looks like actual AOM. Even the blur is similar. What the fuck? Did they train on slop?
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>>8480970
blur so powerful a static image has ghosting, I fucking kneel
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Currently, it is no longer the case that it cannot be executed with 12GB of VRAM, but depending on the chosen model size, the performance and quality will simply decline.
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>>8480974
chinese wan-dev bro please use a better translator
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>>8480972
How the fuck is it possible to even train a model from scratch and "accidentally" make it look so much like AOMslop
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>>8480964
because no one is willing to put effort to actually make high quallity data set with additional manually added tags for precise and consistent(without bleeding) generation of complex general poses/characters and also train great text enconder from scratch
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>>8480963
T2V LoRAs work on I2V so you don't need to double dip and I think it's doable with 24gb vram rn. It will probably go down once better implementations come out
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>>8480976
On /h/, ChatGPT is being used following the guidance of NAI.
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>>8480980
Right but that doesn’t explain the retarded decision to make their own arch instead of just accepting their limitations and building off v3.
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>>8480977
Just use an LLM to prompt for you buddy
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>>8480977
Simple, you scrape the internet for anime pics but you forget that at this point 90% of pictures upoaded on boorus are AI (even if the posts get hidden) and don't prune them from your dataset.
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>>8480984
Kurumuz is too smart to give the stability AI Jews their pound of flesh
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>>8480985
OK, and?
It's not working.
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>>8480991
put this prompt into NaiV4 and you will see the power of NOVELAI
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>>8480991
HOLY
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>>8480656
>>8480711
I never thought the release of v4 would be this entertaining. I can't believe this is real and not satire.
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>be texgen company
>make imagen model that gets better results with LLMsloppa prompts
>make no effort to incorporate your existing textgen models or at least general textgen expertise to make LLMsloppa prompting the imagen easier
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>>8480999
wait a second, you might be onto something
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>>8480999
Well for starters their LLM models are fucking shit.
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>>8481001
its funny how the second open weight corpo funded LLMs were released, novelai faded into irrelevance. only reason they're clinging onto image gen is due to general disinterest in an anime model by 99% of corporations
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DEEPSEEK WILL SAVE US
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>>8481004
bro, your Janus?
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>>8481005
for me, it's big_janus, detailed_janus, y_janus
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>>8481004
DeepSeek is unironically worse than GPT, but it’s infinitely cheaper.
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Pillars, should I use PAG, SAG, both or are they wasted GPU computation that is better used in upscaling?
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>>8481008
PAG is the only guidance snakeoil i actually found made a difference
>>
pagpag
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i can't believe we're in a timeline where base64 with a lora looks better than v4
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>>8481007
You can't say that here!!!!!
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>>8480977
Like jesus fuck, this is literally just AOM
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Kijai has completed the implementation of speedup for all WANs.
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Why is there so many Loras with thousands of downloads on civitai for basic ass characters and positions that the base model already knows? Is everyone promptlet?
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>>8480682
Neg stitched
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>>8481016
Because it makes genning them more consistent
That way every gen comes out with anal birth instead of one every 8 gens
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>>8481014
There are people who renewed their Opus subscription for this.
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Newfag here, anyway to make 4chanX automatically watch new /hdg/ threads that are made ? Dont want to do it manually every time u guys are kinds fast...
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>>8481014
I can't tell if people are shitposting, there's no way that's actually what it looks like (on mobile so cant check meta)
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>>8481012
same
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Lot of you complain about NaiV4, but have (you) said thank you once?
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>>8481019
I renewed mine for V3. I won’t be renewing after this.
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>>8481021
It's sorta shitpost (has [[3d]] in prompt and film grain) but v4 still looks like shit.
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>>8481023
i thanked kurumuz when v1 leaked
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>>8481023
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>>8481025
Even without [[3d]] and film grain it still looks like AOMslop
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>>8481023
I would like to express my gratitude to NAI4 Share Anon here and now.
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>>8481028
okay, put ai-generated in the negatives
BONUS: use an artist
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It's pretty poetic that the only people I see actually praising the new v4 model are furries.
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>>8481030
ai-generated negged
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>>8481029
Same, I might have been tempted to buy a sub for a month without trying how shit v4 is for myself.
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>>8481032
That's not too bad desu.
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>>8481030
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>>8481032
>>8481036
instantly better, lmao
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>>8481036
>>8481032
>ai-generated is one of the default negatives in v3
>isn't in the default negative in v4
Why the FUCK would they do this?
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I can't believe SD 1.5 with loras looks better than noobai
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>>8480758
https://litter.catbox.moe/phk9pj.png
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>>8481030
>ai-generated in the negatives
That's a thing?
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>>8481041
yes
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>>8481038
>ai-generated is one of the default negatives in v3
no its not
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>>8481041
Yes
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>>8481044
>>8481041
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>>8481040
Thanks, time to gen some Akosex.
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Where is aki99 and asura (asurauser)?
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she's beautiful...
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I had a dream..
>OpenAI releases Dall-E 4
>Supports NSFW, anime, realism and artist tags
>Understands booru tags and natural language and their mixing
>Full control of all the settings, no forced prompt rewriting
>On-site model finetuning (lora equivalent for SaaS only model)
>$30 for unlimited plan, less than 3 seconds to spit out 4x 2048x2048 images with the ability to use their superior upscaling technology to get crisp 4k images.

Then I woke up as soon as I started to use it. I want to go back there so bad... Reality fucking sucks.
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>>8481049
>dreamt about SaaS
uh, lol?
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>>8481047
Dunno
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Where catboxing :(
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>>8481053
Just... write.
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>>8481050
Please understand, his only purpose in life is to be a gay little faggot golem slave.
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>>8481049
hopefully dall-e 4 won't be a pos thanks to the shitty failed sora thing
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>>8481055
So true, unique freethinker sister. Some day we will break the chains of capitalism.
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>>8481057
Nah, you’re mentally ill and dream of handing over your money for things you don’t own. You are a rape victim.
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>>8481041
It works in positives which means it works in negatives too, that goes for all tags. Try it with artists.
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I didnt expect v4 release to go like that but thats more entertaining than I thought
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you already said that
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I didnt expect v4 release to go like that but thats more entertaining than I thought
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I didnt expect v4 release to go like that but thats more entertaining than I thought
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Eguchi Tomoka doesn't work on NAI4 no matter what tags I use, she has like 60 images too which is supposed to be replicable ... Why is it so DOA
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I didnt expect v4 release to go like that but thats more entertaining than I thought
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I didnt expect v4 release to go like that but thats more entertaining than I thought
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Compilation of everything up to this point
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hey guys i just got out of my prison coma and the last thing i remember was nai v3 releasing and this general coming together to share great looking artist mixes

any major developments since then??
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>>8481060
I say that and I do that.
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>>8481072
NAI V4 can do anal birth
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>>8481071
if anything im grateful to NovelAI for providing some weekend entertainment
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>>8481074
Pretty cute
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>>8480849
what prompt did you use on the right? just "big breasts" alone or with quality prompts?
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>>8481072
Just... write.
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>patreon guy with 500+ members doesn't scrub his metadata on all his 1000+ pixiv posts
>used to download all his stuff and copy his prompts for my own patreon
>got pretty big myself
>guy deleted his original pixiv and relaunched with a different pixiv username, now reuploading all his old stuff but the metadata are all scrubbed

guess bro noticed huh. pic related
>>
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For me it's catTowerNoobaiXL_v15Vpred.safetensors
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>>8480899
>removed decrisp
yeah doesn't work yet with their new model apparently
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>>8481010
What settings do you recommend?
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>>8481045
>>8481044
>the noise around the eyes
In every fucking V4 gen
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>>8481080
Well, you gonna pass some of the fucking metadata yourself or what, bro?
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>>8481082
is new 16vpred dogwater?
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>>8481080
>deleted his original pixiv
You ever think there'll be lost media but with AI sloppa?
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>>8481086
The noise is everywhere on most of the gens, the eyes is where it's the most obvious. Don't know what actually causes it.
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>>8481089
Yes, and it’ll be models like v3 where even the “creator” doesn’t know what the fuck they did to make it work so good.
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>>8481080
how do you not scrub metadata in the process of censoring the naughty bits
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>>8481087
no
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>>8481093
I’m gonna kill you.
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>>8481092
You can just prompt for mosaic_censoring
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>>8481092
many of brer's pixiv posts didn't contain naughty bits that needed censoring

also all his patreon uncensored pics didn't have their metadata deleted either. bro literally genned his shit and post them directly on his patreon

>>8481087
it's literally the first result you'll see if you google image search jesus christ how lazy can you be
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Just.. write.
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>>8481098
>jesus christ how lazy can you be
As lazy as the guy who copy and pastes other people’s prompts. You gonna hand em over or what?
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So many skill issues in here lmao
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she's trolling
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>>8481099
https://x.com/QO1WhSFCmq1558/status/1895836588145590304
https://x.com/udWHzFzWJGeSklR/status/1895924221655888279
https://x.com/mikageStation/status/1895828391947129262
Oh no no no the nips are turning on Kurumuz as well...
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>>8481090
It looks almost like JPEG compression artifacts. You don't suppose... they converted the whole dataset to JPEG like Astralite did? Because that would be a really stupid thing to do.
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>>8481049
>OpenAI releases Dall-E 4
>Supports NSFW, anime, realism
Technically it will do that if they ever release it if it's like dalle3.
Its problem isn't that it's not outputing nsfw, it's that it's censored post generation (and you can't prompt no no words either).
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>>8481103
>koikatsu somehow getting in the second prompt
lmfao
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>>8481097
if you only slop gens for pixiv, not for yourself
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>>8481104
nah im pretty sure its just vae artifacts, other ""intended"" usecases are fine, such as anime screenshot
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>>8481104
Pony didn't produce artifacts like this though
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>>8480711
How did this guy get hired?
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>>8481108
Why would you waste time genning for yourself instead of creating content for your socials?
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>>8481032
putting ai gen in the negs with an artist makes it look a hundred times better after testing it with a bunch of gens
how much fucking aislop is in their dataset
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>>8481103
OK but the third one is genuinely just a dire skill issue.
Like how the fuck do you fail to prompt the official Love Live artstyle in NovelAI when it's insanely overrepresented in the data set. There's fucking pages and pages of SIF asset rips uploaded directly to Danbooru. Literally just "love live! school idol festival, official style" gets you what you want.
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>>8481091
>even the “creator” doesn’t know
Yea I can imagine years down the line some AI art getting rediscovered but the prompter completely unable to recreate the style again.
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>>8481082
what a retard lmao
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>>8481115
>Literally just “love live! school idol festival, official style” gets you what you want.
No it doesn’t.
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>>8481098
You know what that lora is? I could not find it.
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>>8481114
how about koikatsu (medium) ?
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>>8481098
Any idea what styles this guy is mixing?
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>>8481112
its nai
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>>8481111
Yeah it was much worse.
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>>8481114
This
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>>8481119
>>8481121
no ganesh nobody knows the lora because it's fucking custom made by the guy himself

maybe train your own lora based on his art if you want it so bad, fucking pajeet
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>>8481121
>>8481119
raj this is not a good look
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>>8481126
bro i just wanna know the name of the artist that textures skin in that manner :(
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>>8481126
And that is where all the "magic" is mister "prompt stealer". The prompts are basic shit.
Don't ever again waste my time.
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why are yall falling for her baits
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>>8481118
>>
Is there anything coming up at all in the local space? As in any new model that improves fundamentally upon everything? It has been 1 years now and there has been literally nothing new. Are there some upcoming projects that at least look promising. Like, pony v7 was announced (by now) for over a year. You can't tell me that something went wrong there.
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>>8481131
Is this supposed to prove me wrong?
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Is having people make a lora off of your style the ultimate achievement as an AI grifter? What would be considered more prestigious than that?
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>>8481135
I kneel
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>>8481136
>What would be considered more prestigious than that?
…Getting rich, probably.
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>>8481135
He was right
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>>8481133
Pony v7 will be another epic fail and source of lulz for this thread.
After screenshots of NAIv4 and PonyV7 damage control dry up, we all are gonna have to start coping with the fact that SDXL will be the only option for local hentai for 5 more years.
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>>8481141
Bro your Janus anime finetune?
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maybe they should start with ciloranko
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>>8481141
>SDXL will be the only option
Always was
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>>8481141
>Pony v7 will be another epic fail and source of lulz for this thread.
Style buckets guarantee that it won't.
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>>8481144
How can one man be this based?
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>>8480947
>console war shithole
shit you are right
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>>8480259
lMAO it can do 3d but you need some insane prompts wtf
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kneel
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>>8481133
Chinese NAI killer comming in 2 weeks.
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>>8481144
1boy, standing, dark skin, smug, smile, half-closed eyes, black hair, glasses, suit, fat,
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>>8481149
and you're not gonna share it
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>>8481152
>fat
plump
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>>8481153
yup ;)
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>>8479831
Is that the Phone_Exposure lora? It's a bit fried, but usually does better than that.
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>>8481153
judging by filename its from civitai
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>>8481157
It's NAI v4, the latest and best anime model by Anatlan.
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>>8480917
It can do gore, vore, birthing , body part replacements and all other sorts of /d/ tier fucked up shit.
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>10 million views per month
>If the average dude visits 3 times a day that's divided by 90
>A subscription costs 25 bucks
Bros......... That would be $2.78 million PER MONTH....... Are they actually rich as fuck?? Imagine a local baker would get 2 million. Just once for a project......
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>>8481163
*has sex with you*
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>>8481163
It's a paid only site which is one of the top 6 most visited AI gen sites on the internet. You really think they make no fucking money?
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>Long time no see, kurumuz.
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>>8481163
Yes, they have 0 operating costs, all that money goes straight to financing NAI V5
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>>8481166
Emad lora when?
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>>8481167
Think of all the money they fucking wasted on v4… lol...
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>>8481167
Nobody is denying they got operating costs. Those highly expensive NVIDIA GPUs ain't coming from nowhere.
https://blog.novelai.net/anlatan-acquires-hgx-h100-cluster-4b7a2e6a631e
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>>8481163
>Just saw hat growth rate
It's over, they will literally be able to afford a private army by the end of the year. They will genocide localbakers.
But for real, arenty they Turks. Turkey is cheap as fuck to live in with a first world wage. They actually make money.
>>8481165
Lol what? 10m views makes you the sixth most visited site? Aren't there like 100 other sites? I couldn't find a chart for that.
>>8481167
Yeah, few h100s are gonna cost you 10 million a month.
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>a single month of atlantans is more than the combined funding of all local imagen projects combined from the last year
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this so much based
>>
total novelai death
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>>8481172
Someone in the last threads posted a chart which shows the most visited AI websites and NovelAI was among them.
And again: The difference is that projects like DALL-E or openAI give you free shit. There is no NovelAI trial.
>>
Cuckbros, we are eating good!
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>>8481172
Just a cursory glance at their Likedin page would inform you that they are an American company, and judging by some of their employees' profiles they are located in Los Angeles.
>Yeah, few h100s are gonna cost you 10 million a month.
Unless they managed to achieve AGI and replace all their employes with bots, their biggest expense is going to be the astronomical salaries AI software engineers demand in the US.
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>>8481177
WOOO AZUR LANE BBC
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>>8481177
why is it so artifacted
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>>8481180
It's called "soul", it's the premium that NAI subscribers pay for.
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>>8481163
How are they that big, how do so many know them? On discord are like 5 fags talking, on reddit the posts never get more than 50 likes, where do all these people come from? Does nai even make ads. That's crazy, i thought they had like 2 a100s, now I hear they're a real company with 10s of thousands of users. Da faq
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>>8481177
me on the right
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>>8481182
Asians
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What's the tag for the hands being under the womans mouth? Like trying to catch the cum?
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>>8481177
me taking this image, i've got a really tiny penis
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>>8481185
cupping_hands
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>>8481183
Uhm, proofs?
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>>8481188
>cupping_hands

Thanks king
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>>8481177
Literally nai4 is a divine model, NO other model captures the worshipful as they kiss bbc well as this one.
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>>8481163
>>8481165
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v4 will go down in history as one of the greatest blunders to be released in imagegen history to the point that it actually killed an entire company.
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>>8481192
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can you make the male darker?
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>>8481194
name ONE local model that produces results THIS good THIS easily
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All we had to do, was follow with NAI 3.5, CJ.
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>>8481192
>character.ai at the top
Nobody is using that shit anymore. Ever since that dumb teen boy comitted suicide the site has gone from mostly useless to complete useless.
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>>8481192
Those are from last year and it shows NAI falling off the top 50
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>>8481198
you'd be surprised, gen alpha is eating shit like character ai and chai up
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>>8481188
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>>8481192
They are behind pixAI lol
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>>8481194
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>>8481201
why are you replying to my post with such an ugly blurry gen
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>>8481193
wait for v7, its gonna be the same shit but worse in all aspect
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>>8481173
Proof that money and compute mean nothing if you are a moron who made it big by being lucky once.
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>>8481196
dunno, if I'd see previews like that I'd skip it.
Good, but just not the style I want.
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>>8481192
Was this made in like 2023?
Half of these are basically dead.
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>>8481204
I assume because it has cupping hands, and metadata to reproduce it
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>>8481208
The dates are written right there.
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>>8481206
>if you are a moron who made it big by being lucky once.
v1, v2 and v3 were pretty competent.
v4 was a big gamble that they lost. Should have played it safe but they got greedy.
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why do you retards keep mentioning pony v7? it's obvious it's a complete shitshow. the release will be boring as fuck.
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>>8481211
My statement still stands
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>>8481208
https://a16z.com/100-gen-ai-apps-3/
Last year, there should be a new one soon because it says "every 6 months".
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Doesn't matter if schizos here hate it, it's a hit with the paying customer base of normal well-adjusted people.
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>>8481213
V4 being a complete shitshow was obvious to anyone who didn't have kurumuz's circumcised penis lodged firmly in the back of his throat, and yet here we are.
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>>8481192
I don't even know many of these
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How to preview Wanx gens? The video helper suite toggle doesn't appear to do anything?
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Another day,another thread of localpoors seething over superior Nai
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>>8481219
set preview method in comfyui manager to Latent2RGB
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1208/205
textsisters still slacking
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>>8481191
This plus this artist tag easily breaks local genners' pride.
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>>8481223
give it up, v4 tragedy was our only chance for 3k
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>>8481224
local could never create such lively interactions between characters.
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>>8481216
i think he is correct, in the discord i know like 10 people us it, one dude spent FIFTY (50) bucks the instant v4 released. One dude ALWAYS gens at 2 images at once, because this apparently makes the images load 10 times faster (lol what?) despite costing 20 anlas. This dude "pays" for every gen with anlas, even though using it at one at a time is free. He is 100% smug because hes getting LOADS of cash
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>>8481222

Thanks. It worked. Thanks anon for sharing the WanX lora.

>Jane doe is cumming out of her mind.
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>>8481228
>because this apparently makes the images load 10 times faster
I don’t know if it makes it load THAT fast but spending anlas for a normal res gen gets you put higher in the queue. I tried it by changing my steps to 30 soon after v4 released while people were bombarding it and almost instantly got a gen.
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>>8481228
>because this apparently makes the images load 10 times faster (lol what?) despite costing 20 anlas.
Because free Opus gens are put into a shared queue and are very slow (think like 15 seconds or more), but paid anlas gens are prioritized and get done in like 2-4 seconds, even at FHD
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>>8481071
Just... kek.
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>>8481232
btw make sure your gens stick to the models resolution, for 480p, ones like 720x480, 832x480 work well imo
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God, i coomed like 10 times yesterday, im still sore
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I'm using NovelAI v4 and cumming my brains out.
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>>8481191
v4 is the ultimate cuck monkey paw because even though it has better comprehension than v3 you can't come even close to generating the delicious looking BBCs that v3 could
it is like cuckception where i am getting cucked out of being a cuck
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>>8481071
Imagine cherrypicking the worst possible no-artist gens to prove your wrong point.
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lol
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doesn't matter, we're all brothers here, fellow cucks, fapping our tiny clits to majestic black cocks
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lmao
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>>8481241
That's 4chan for you, normies are enjoying v4 a lot, so much that their servers are overloaded >>8481216. hdg isn't the target audience, while you cry about v4 turk gets another million
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*smacks lips* ayo 'ol up y'all sayain just... write?
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>>8481245
this is why every AI startup wants to go straight to SaaS subscription models btw
normies will eat the FUCK out of it and net you hundreds of thousands
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You will never see a cent of the profit made btw. You’re living vicariously through a fat brown retard btw.
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>>8481240
nah, works for me
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shieeeeeeet
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>>8481249
Is that miside?
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>>8481249
sorry but i have yet to see a v4 cock that makes me salivate the way some of the v3 ones did
that one does not look steamy, wet, or juicy enough
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Am I the only guy in here who just likes normal hentai for normal people?
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>>8481247
Capitalism is immoral as fuck. This is just wrong. Wish everyone would just bake hentai models for free so I could goon all I want.
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BLACKED BBC is normal porn
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>>8481245
/v/ is also enjoying it a lot.
>>>/v/704304749
>Wow that’s really good. Omg. How is this AI lmao. Please more. Can you prompt it to recreate art like pic related?
>>>/v/704306229
>Holy fuckkkk. That looks amazing. What are these points you speak of? Do you need money. I will send you money to make more money
>>>/v/704305110
>This is insane. What the fuck. Keep trying.
>>>/v/704307565
>Holy fuck this is amazing. Omfg. Dude send me a way to give you money so you can generate more. I’ll send you $20. This is the best art we’ve gotten in years since Yamooon stopped drawing.
>>>/v/704309436
>Wow. Wonderful. Sublime. Please. More.
>>>/v/704309791
>come on anon stop pulling our leg you are drawing this lol
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>>8481257
VERY organic!!!!!
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this! so much even!
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>>8481257
>Dude send me a way to give you money so you can generate more. I’ll send you $20.
why are they like this
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yeah using 1 style is so easy
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>>8481257
>söytendo
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>>8481253
hm, good enough for me
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>>8481257
Kek dead internet theory strikes again
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>>8481261
That's the power of v4. It breaks minds.
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so much based this that I cum
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>>8481267
wtf... bigger than mine
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>>8481257
>that Zelda thread was linked here
>immediately a bunch of posts like that popped up with the same typing style
I know what you're getting at but a lot of those are clearly just shitposters from here
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>>8481264
why is it so perfect
this is a drawing
please allow me to send you $50
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why can't i just have a huge black juicy cock all to myself...
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>>8481264
ahhh ahhh my black overlord
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oh yeah let me gen an image which uses 95% of sciamano240
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>>8481272
It was linked after all these comments were made: >>8479986
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>>8481274
take penis enlargement pills and infect yourself with re-vitiligo?
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>>8481278
Yes that's how it usually works.
>make a bunch of false flag posts
>cross link to show all these totally organic posts that you just made are
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its 4chan
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Can someone try KH Aqua in NAI4? pic related was on 3 for reference
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it's write
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nyope ;)
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write power
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noticing a shocking lack of NAIV4 vs NoobAI comparisons... what happened?
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>>8481280
Every Zelda thread turns into a NAI shill thread:
>>>/v/704308209
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why is it so so
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>>8481287
naiv4 should be compared to aom3
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>>8481292
KEK THIS
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>>8481288
What are you gonna do with your life when Anlatan is no more, Claudefag?
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>>8481295
What are you gonna do with your life after your split thread dies, Momoura?
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oooh I just came up with a brilliant way to order a quality prompt (arrange the words in the best order).
You generate simple images for each word and then compare them.
So for example you generate:
1girl, masterpiece
Followed by:
1girl, very awa
And then pick the image you like more. Then put that term at the front of your prompt.
What do you think?
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>>8481297
What are you gonna do with your life after your split thread dies, Birdschizo?
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>my local software can't make an artstyle NAI can
>people ask for images in that artstyle
>Sh-shill!!!
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Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that "it's nai" should now be retired and replaced with "it's aom" to more accurately capture the essence of v4?
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>>8481299
no way fag
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>>8481303
it's nai just... write
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Is this some DEI bullshit or???
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>>8481303
please do not kick up more dust, I have allergies
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V4-full doesn't make as pretty images as V3 (even the preview was better!) but the things you can pull off with the multi-character prompting and target shit is neat.
You can do shit like making a third "character" and using it describe a cutaway. For example:
>The illustration has a cut-in showing another view: A close up shot of the pussy being licked, tongue, clitoris, close up, lips, pussy juice
I hope they put this tech into a model that doesn't suck.
>yuri
yeah, sue me.
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blacked meme model
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>>8481309
it's still just regional prompter
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>>8481309
you were always able to do this with inset and zoom layer tags though
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I do kinda like naiXLVpred102d_final.safetensors even if the name is retarded. Doesn't have the ai slop look of cyberfix and doesn't need as much brushing up as Vpred-v1.0+v29b-v2
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>>8481312
>>8481313
I'll give it a shot on Noob, the last time I really tried to do stuff like this was on sd1.5 lol.
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>>8481315
How does it compare against ΣΙΗ? I would describe it with those same words. Including the retarded name.
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>>8481317
link? never tried it
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>Your BBC in april
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>>8481319
character 3 didn't follow a single word in her prompt, not even hime cut which is an actual tag
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RIP MiniNai
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>>8481320
https://civitai.com/models/1217645/sih
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were NAI director tools updated to v4 too? Seems the BG removal is way better but im not 100% sure
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>>8481322
>not even hime cut which is an actual tag
desu I never had it work properly without "blunt bangs" for some reason
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>>8481310
it never works that well for me, always some typo. howe
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>>8481321
Reminder furries are the blacks in RWBY
there's a whole story arc about the race thing
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>>8480828
epibox?!
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>>8481328
i hope one day you share some catboxes with us, love your images a lot
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>>8481307
box
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>>8481335
boxu?
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>>8481338
nope
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>>8481336
It has metadata
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>>8481339
Please man
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>>8481324
At least we know this one wasn't....
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>>8481335
nai could never..
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>>8481328
localchads, I kneel
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>>8481335
This is the best image ive seen posted to this place in over a year
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Anyone knows artists that draw thigh gap like this? With stick legs: https://litter.catbox.moe/f2tn3z.png
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>>8481331
actually THAT one wasnt yang, it was kaori from your lie in april.They look VERY similar
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>>8481348
huh...
seems like artists can't decide if her eyes are blue or purple
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>>8481299
A single image isn't going to tell you everything, there is randomness involved in generation.
>>
>>
and just like that, the dust following the launch of NAIV4 has settled.
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this
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>>8481350
ok then 10 images vs 10 images

the core idea should be good though
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>>8481346
why would you need a specific artist for that
just add thigh gap, petite to your prompt
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MiniNai dev, where are you? Should I expect the app to be fixed, or not? I can't gen stuff since yesterday.
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>>8481358
good bait
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>>8481358
Have you thought about paying 25 dollars instead of being a leech?
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>>8481356
Thigh gap usually forces legs together. If I use artists that draw figure like this consistently, I'm hoping it will be more consistent across different poses.
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>>8481355
well, testing isn't a bad idea - there is a lot involved ingenning though, even if your combination works as you tested it might be different if you add other things to the prompt, so it is just tedious and you can't test all possible combinations.
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its only 25$
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>>8481358
go on, show it to daddy kurumuz...
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>>8481359
???
>>8481360
Yes, but because of NAI V3, I'm a bit disappointed with V4 so far, but I wanna try more stuff.
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god damn what the fuck happened in the last 3 hours, the nai image discussion discord in the analatan server is full of nothing but people talking shit
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>>8481366
Believe it or not, but this place is the focal point of ai image gen and will always set the tone for discussion around the internet
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>>8481366
It's fun watching kurumuz try to reply during the tidal wave of posts talking about the artifacting
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in case anyone cares about my progress on sex machines, i am almost finished fucking around with random shit and am now solidly in tag shuffling gacha reroll hell, which of these best represents the ~20 tags i prompted that i trained on? that's for me to decide.

https://litter.catbox.moe/hpczs2.jpg
https://litter.catbox.moe/ep3uab.jpg
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True Love
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>>8481361
Yeah it's not really a thigh gap, it's wide hips with thin legs. But those tags work differently when used together.
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i swear to god, it's been YEARS and you still do the same fucking thing?
sex machine?
g-force?
xenoblade crystal placement?
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>>8481373
no way that's all the same guy
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>>8481373
do you expect my fetish to just up and disappear or what
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>>8481372
Problem is that thin legs isn't even a tag.
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>>8481369
it's not really for me but i do like the status updates as i enjoy seeing other anons achieve the things that they are striving for
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>>8481373
you know, it's called "sex"
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>>8481368
He's been typing and stopping for the past 30 minutes because he can't decide which post to get mad at
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>>8481377
it's slim legs, my bad I usually gen the opposite
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>>8481375
i don't think he was saying it was the same guy, if he does he underestimates how much effort this stupid shit takes
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>>8481373
i do not have severe adhd and need to make my gens increasingly complex or fucked up
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>>8481378
i baked a bunch of other concept loras with more general appeal too
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>>8481373
its autism
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>>8481380
he'll ban them soon enough or call in occultsage to melt their brains with his retardation ray
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>>8480818 (Me)
ok, i've tested my bake of a style on illu1.0 on noobvp1.0 and the results are honestly unflattering.
considering that there is a visible increase in artifacts, i guess either training on illu0.1 or versions of noob would probably make more sense.
guess i'll go back to testing training on illu0.1 vs noobvp1.0.

>>8481080
thanks for the idea, kinda funny that hachimedes leaves the prompts in his images.
while waiting for my bakes, i wrote a lil python script to convert the prompts in the metadata into a tag file while removing those that aren't part of danbooru.
I guess it could be useful for training ai styles; maybe i'll train a lora on my own gens someday
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>>8481381
Yeah that one might be helpful. Although unfortunately it's also tagged in 5% of applicable images.
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>>8481366
The sheep are revolting.......
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>>8481389
Usually putting narrow waist in the prompt and thick thighs in the negatives works for me but might not always work depending on artist
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>local converges on AOMslop but it actually looks good if you don't mind the style
>NAI converges on AOMslop but it looks like ass and is ridden with artifacts
What gives?
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>>8481257
those threads have 5 people in there, 20 if you are generous at buger hours
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>>8480116
is he literally blind?
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>>8481392
>but it actually looks good if you don't mind the style
cope
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>>8481394
Blind and retarded, yes.
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>>8481366
i pity those who can't see what's happening in their general chat right now
this shit is golden, there's too much to screencap
i have no idea what the fuck happened since it was mostly cope over the artifacts in the main chat earlier but the hell is going on now lol
kuru is arguing with everyone
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>>8480650
there no fuckign way
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>>8481397
LEAVE HIM ALONE HE'S TRYING TO BRING BACK AOMSLOP
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>>8481397
To be fair. "V4 is inferior" is pretty baity.
There are a good number of things V4 is doing way better than V3 - it's just that a lot of users value style consistency and well - consistency in general - and V4 really ain't good there at all.
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>>8481397
yeah, because they now saw that people from here shitpost, a few mentioned it lol, he said korean and Japanese love it and use it e masses
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Another week until the people here are forced to eat their words once everyone learns how to actually prompt on V4 and its true potential is discovered. I have been cumming for 16 hours straight because V4 is that powerful but it's no surprise the idiots here have no clue how to unlock it's near limitless power.
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^ kek
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>>8481397
>>8481366
People are noticing the artifacts and other noise and the whole no artist mix thing is pissing a bunch of them off so it's probably that
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>>8481402
>near limitless power.
Trim this off and you'd have some fine bait here
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Another week until the people here are forced to eat their words once everyone learns how to actually prompt on V4 and its true potential is discovered. I have been cumming for 16 hours straight because V4 is that powerful but it's no surprise the idiots here have no clue how to unlock it's near limitless power.
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>>8481406
kek
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>>8481406
artifacts
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>>8481410
Artifactual doom? Yes, it is.
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>>8481329
same on all models, i think the ai things hime cut is long straight hair and has nothing to do with bangs
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>>8480848
>Dataset is what matters. Garbage in, garbage out.
real baker detected
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>>8481399
bro is gonna murder his own subs
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>>8481416
bro, they already know he joined today, people called him already out
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Leleck on damage control
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I seem to remember a lot of people in this general who were Kurumuz supporters.

Could I get your thoughts on all of this? How are you guys feeling?
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V4 isn't as bad as many make it out to be, and it has a couple small issues but is vastly better than V3 when it comes to consistency with artist styles. Poses, sure, but not artist consistency.

There's a difference between issues, and just not knowing how to prompt
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>hdg sub
>Entire thread is literally about nai
You retards are not even postig anything, wth is going on here?
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NovelAI discord proves one rule right again.
Never let CEOs and regular devs/software engineers into the conversation.
It's a place that should only house your own social media experts. CEOs and devs have no idea how to communicate with their own consumerbase.
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>>8481420
>vastly better than V3 when it comes to consistency with artist styles. Poses, sure, but not artist consistency
anon you are contradicting yourself in your own bait, you might want to proofread before posting
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>>8481424
Sorry, english isn't my first language.
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>>8481419
I was shilling NAI because v3 is amazing. I am shitting on v4 because it's trash. It's rather simple.
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>>8481420
>small issues
>artist mixes fucked
>MASSIVE artifacting everywhere
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>>8481417
show us your ryona collection leleck
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>>8481426
i think anon is having trouble comprehending people who use principles to make decisions instead of identity
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>>8481425
>>8481420
>>8481417
SHOW ME YOUR RYONA GENS
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>>8481428
>openly admiting you are a discord tranny and lurk there every second
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>>8481428
Kill yourself retarded moron
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>>8481432
why does her donut have such a big hole?
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>>8481432
i mainly want to know which model/sampler/cfg/quality tags
your gens are really nice
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>>8481429
why are you defending nai
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>>8481436
for big hard anonie dickies
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>>8481433
>>8481435
show me the ryona
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kinda funny that we have people here that feel genuine loyalty towards novelai
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>>8481438
i'm not, learn to read retard
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Tried something else with V4 something I unsuccessful unable pull off in V3.

I tried to create image when women inserted bottle inside her pussy and it work. I increased to two bottle and surprisingly it work too but not completely perfect
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>>8481177
the model being great at character placement is quite nice
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>>8481432
i know its just me being greedy but you could share those custom loras as well, but i understand completely why you wouldnt as well. i will cope by being happy that at least you share the images, thank you.
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>>8481441
all me
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>>8481440
What do you even do it for ?
You don't use model, you don't post gen and you just stir shit in pot for no good reason. It's good model, but you continue to point out various things that do not matter in the long term. It will be fixed, it will be better, and instead you screech and cry and post mis info .
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>>8481443
the general knowledge is really quite good but the look is awful
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>>8481426
Same. I'm kinda mad because I waited a lot for this model to come out, and ended up disappointed, so fuck NAI V4.
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>v4 hands don't have extra fingers
>but they look like shit
huh?
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>>8481443
>>8481448
why the fuck do i have this extreme sensation of deja vu
>>
like yeah, v4 artists are pretty accurate, moreso than local without loras almost across the board. but it LOOKS LIKE FUCKING SHIT. being accurate does not matter at all if the model is ugly
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>>8481447
oh fuck are you actually him LOL
show me the gigagens rajesh
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>>8481451
look at the lines, the lines, the lines, they are fuckign disintegrating into little diffusion bits
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it's Pony all over again
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>>8481228
The whole point of getting the highest tier is to have unlimited gens, why are they paying???

>One dude ALWAYS gens at 2 images at once
at this point get two subs, it's more economical...
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>>8481456
the problems are different but both were caused by retarded devs
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>>8481447
I faking your mather san benchod bloody
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imo the good and the bad about nai4:
can do more complicated setups (fucks up anatomy though)

can do more obscure characters (fucks up details though)

can have separate prompts for separate characters (still has tag cross contamination though)

can specify who's being done by the action and who is doing the action (still fucks up sometimes though, especially with source nipple pinch and target nipple pinch)

https://files.catbox.moe/0m4lle.png
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>>8481453
>black man = nai
>Mita = HDG
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black penis -> my mouth
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>>8481461
can you repost this with tiny mita please
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>>8481455
So raise steps? Change guidance ?
do something in stead of complaining and hating
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>>8481460
it's also current on gacha whores
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>>8481461
can it do choker snapping?
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>>8481458
Dude, how obsessed are you? That's from over a year ago
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are you ready for v4 vibe transfer?
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>>8481466
none of those fix the issue, they appear in every image
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>>8481469
i collect images
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>>8481471
They dont . They appear in badly prompted images I suggest trying to use prose with languaging because just tags are not enough for V4, your guidance is off
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>>8481264
>elden ring official art
???
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why not just put artifacts in the negatives if you want them gone in nai v4???
>>
inb4
>just overload your negatives with so much shit that everything turns into a greasy aom3 smear
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>>8481473
>>8481466
good advice ganesh
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>>8481473
show me a good image, i've been in cars on vacation since it came out and i have not seen a single image without intense artifacting around the edges
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>>8481080
>>8481087
pekomama,
masterpiece, best quality, very aesthetic),absurdres,detailed,beautiful color,amazing quality,sensitive,(shiny skin:1.1),(olied skin:1.1),
1girl,solo,large breasts, (curvy:1.2),mature_female,
looking at viewer,blush, embarrassed,
(completely_nude:1.2),(puffy_nipples:1.2),blush, embarrassed,looking at viewer,half-closed eyes,open mouth,
motion lines,on back,lying,on bed,
breast suppress, grabbing another's breast, looking at viewer, motion lines, paizuri,large penis, pov,pov hand,blue nails,straddling_paizuri,sweat, sweatdrop,
white background,simple background,

<lora:StopthinkingSoulV9:1>,
<lora:eatsleep111SDXL:0.1>
<lora:detailed_hands:0.9>,
<lora:nyalia:0.2>
Steps: 50, Sampler: Euler, Schedule type: Automatic, CFG scale: 3.5, Seed: 3549275547, Size: 832x1216, Model hash: a281d00d46, Denoising strength: 0.29, Clip skip: 2, ADetailer model: face_yolov8s.pt, ADetailer confidence: 0.18, ADetailer dilate erode: 4, ADetailer mask blur: 20, ADetailer denoising strength: 0.35, ADetailer inpaint only masked: True, ADetailer inpaint padding: 32, ADetailer version: 24.9.0, Hires upscale: 1.5, Hires steps: 12, Hires upscaler: 8xNMKDSuperscale_150000G, Lora hashes: "StopthinkingSoulV9: 60209c424ddb, eatsleep111SDXL: 976554DC294C, detailed_hands: 5b4b264411f2, nyalia: 965D9B2AB486", Emphasis: No norm, Version: v1.10.1
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>>8481460
it can also do more artstyles but it's blurry as fuck, has some sort of ai generated filter, or just really screws up on basic artstyles for wahtever reason
https://files.catbox.moe/b9495v.png
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>>8481474
old prompt mix
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kuru also agrees that mixing sucks
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>>8481473
TELL EM LELECK
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>>8481475
:o
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>>8481474
If Disgaea or Dead or Alive work as style tags, why not?
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>>8481460
maybe its just me, but the most important part of image gen is for the images to look nice so all those positives (at least to me) are completely useless if the styles are a complete wash and the images are full of artifacts
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>>8481346
take a look at romcom light novel covers, this style is quite popular there
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>>8481486
literally this
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>>8481478
No ? because this shits is just hating and that's it
You wont like a single gen even if it looks good to anyone else.
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>>8480873
Some of my mixes are still trapped in it
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how much longer can they last in full damage control mode? shit's gotta be exhausting
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>>8481489
>show me something good
>no
wow amazing response, shut the fuck up retard
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>>8481489
I fak u bloody
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I was just here for shitposting about ai models, now i am addicted to seeing white and asian girls getting fucked by black cocks + being awed at black dick size. Cause and causation is fucked
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>>8481495
rope
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fucking frogposters
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>>8481489
>>8481428
which characters do you like getting ntr'd by
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Can someone explain to me what "artifacts" are in general? Does it just mean "low resolution" part?
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>>8481455
We need a 32ch VAE.
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>>8481499
Have you seen any of the Indiana Jones movies?
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this GMT+1 discord fag is amusing
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>>8481489
Hallo saar I v4 good?
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>>8481482
Every single person in this thread should archive this screenshot. This will be used in the lawsuit that will bring NovelAI down.
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>>8481495
kill yourself
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not even gonna reach 2k texts, you guys are pathetic pigs
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Being able to shitpost about V4's major flaws and employee embarrassments while still being able to gen and make the most of it has made for an entertaining weekend.
Also just wanna say good on the guy in >>8480116 for figuring it out on his own https://files.catbox.moe/soachs.png
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>>8481489
leleck can you show me your ryona gens please PLEASE I BEG OF YOU
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>>8481469
the naiv4 thing will go on for a year, same points repeated ad nauseam, and when it's calm, suddenly a random rage bait post
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>>8481508
so is the solution just loading it up with a shit ton of weights
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>>8481499
Copying what someone said on the Discord with the attached pic (which got ignored by the analtan people): "When it looks like you saved your picture from Twitter which was saved from Facebook"
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>>8481511
it's no different than v3 then
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>>8481460
>can specify who's being done by the action and who is doing the action
is there a specific way to ask that or is "xx is doing to yy" enough?
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>>8481508
it's definitely close but the v3 one still looks better
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>>8481493
Could do something differtly than hating, but whatever
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>>8481507
discord screenshots are just straight up unfair.
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>>8481461
can it do a tanned mita
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>>8481470
Wasn't that cancelled?
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>>8481481
>>8481485
AIs really work in mysterious ways...
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>>8481518
>(for blurry/fisheye effect/ overexposure effect)
this boils down to a personal preference and unfortuantely the "its blurry" memes have kind of mindbroken a lot of anons in this general similarly to how sepia broke their ability to judge colors in images. i wouldnt worry too much about it, it looks nice.
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>noob fucks up their bake
everyone laughs and memes in unison
>nai fucks up their bake
corpo defense force arrives
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>>8481516
BLOODY
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>>8481516
dude, you think this is some identity shit? you think i'm just a hater? i paid $25 and i want to use what i bought correctly, i'm just trying to make some fucking hentai. i've spent like 10 hours on my phone fucking around over the last couple days and it does not look good, and neither does anything anyone else posts. all this delusion about "oh just increase steps" aka "give us money" because i'm already on 28 and "increase guidance" aka "fry the fuck out of your image" no thanks, bro
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>>8481523
no shit noob is free
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>>8481519
yes, but it won't, all women whave to be pale, as they take bd
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>>8481495
I mean penis awe is erotic, regardless of the color of the dick
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>>8481518
>mixing real photography improves the gens
...are you the anon that trained on the blacked photos from several threads back? I thought they were interesting at least.
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>>8481527
>on my phone
of course, opinion discarded KEK
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>>8481512
Si pixellisation?
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>nai brought /hdg/ back from the grave
>again
hail kurumuz!
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>>8481516
how did you even find this place
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>>8481532
i think its evident from sd 1.5 that real photos help anime
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>>8481514
supposedly natural language should work but i saw someone use source#tag target#tag under the character prompt section and it works for some, doesn't work for others
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>>8481534
Mainly yes, think of jpeg artifacts, aliasing, etc. Also melting
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>>8481530
I like tanned gyaru look, I'll try that later
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>>8481531
>
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>>8481523
>corpo defense force arrives
this thread has been nothing but shitposting
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>>8481541
melting is different but yea
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>>8481544
>i dont agree with it therefore its shitposting!!
why are you defending nai so hard
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>>8481523
>copro defense force
just retards trying to justify their missing 25$
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>>8481536
leleck is built like that
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>>8481541
I see, and it can't be solved by higher resolutions?
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>>8481538
>source#tag target#tag
where the hell does that come from, is that danbooru tagging?
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>>8481546
this thread has been nothing but shitposting
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so is the main takeaway you don't try making models from scratch, use good normie models like SDXL as a base
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>>8480259
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>>8481551
it's a new v4 feature
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>>8481538
alright, thanks anon
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>>8481554
why is her hair black
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>>8481551
nah apparently it's something they were experimenting with while redoing their dataset. not sure how far they got with that if the rumors of ai generated slop being in the dataset are true tho
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>>8481513
i wouldn't know, i dropped v3 after a few months
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>>8481558
Cuz I prefere girls with black hairs =)
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>>8481549
Not with V4
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>>8481560
ai-generated is a fairly powerful tag in v4 so signs do not look good
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Is it possible to have one artist draw the face but another draw the boobs and et cetera?
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>>8481561
every v3 prompt has at least 15-20 sets of {} brackets while people always bragged about how good the comprehension was while they brushed over the fact their prompts always ended up like {{{{{{{loli}}}}}}}
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it would still be nice if we had some local model development
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>>8481565
Ouch.
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>>8481565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M2OgPeMO8E [Embed]
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>>8481567
i mean, as long as it works, i really don't care, besides the fact that they should use numeric weights instead of repeated brackets
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>>8481566
you can try with region prompter and/or adetailer but it might look weird
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>>8480178
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>>8481564
putting ai-generated in the negative helps my gens
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has
has anyone tried genning stuff on v4 with nothing in the prompts
oh my god
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thts an chldrn
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>>8481578
if it's like any other models I've that with, it's just random weird stuff
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>>8481578
Why is it all feet
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>>8481577
yeah i'm actually playing with weighting the shit out of it, and, uh, it looks pretty good
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>>8481582
That isn't empty. Turn off quality tags and UC preset.
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>>8481582
this needs some semen on the nylon
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>>8481578
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>>8481592
okay i actually enjoy this one
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>>8481592
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>>8481591
>the BBC devil
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>>8481584
Yeah, and I was the one half-shitposting about hoping you'd post the LoRA or else I'd train my own (I haven't yet). Cool stuff tho.
>>8481578
>>8481592
it's sovl
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>i asked a catbox from bl*cked shitposter
no..
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I wish the script was updated but at least picrel is possible now.
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>>8481602
sorry to break it to you but genning blacked is like picking your nose
you may think its gross and that no one else does it, but everyone does it even if they deny it
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>>8481601
>>8481592
this is so cute
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>>8481604
i gen bestiality and that's more humanizing than blacked
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Please post 2hus
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>>8481604
i know you're shitposting, but this is what got me into it. People were Nuking threads on 4chan with anime girls getting fucked, Then japs started doing it too, then it got me
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>>8481604
I don't mind interracial as long as it's not bnwo racewar shit.
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>>8481460
>especially with source nipple pinch and target nipple pinch
nvm after retrying it again i think it might've just been fucking up from another tag i was using, it's consistently good now
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>>8481611
artystyle is still smoothed/feels ai generated tho
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>thread thansforms to nai general
>"we love blacked here" unironically
now that's organic
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>>8481577
>>8481585
wtf, it kind of work better, why, it's not like ai generated stuff looks bad
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>>8481598
boxxo?
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>>8481604
kill yourself
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>>8481613
I do not agree with you.
Now react angrily.
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>>8481607
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>>8481617
ai gen images have lots of little problems like you average luminance, dithering, fried edges
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>>8481604
Everyone knows that everyone has picked their nose before
Shitty analogy
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>>8481604
i did it once ironically for yous but thats about it
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>>8481603
Oh, so they did copy my script but gave it an even shittier implementation, that's funny. I don't really have a desire to fix it right now unfortunately.
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I'd like to submit my pillar application
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>>8481627
you forgot your image
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>>8481624
>everybody knows everyone watched bbc porn
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>>8481629
I'd like to be the first no-gen pillar.
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>>8481630
not once
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>>8481610
this, I always hate when they try to make it /pol/
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>making shit up
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>>8481593
box?
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>>8481621
Thanks!
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>>8481634
the irony here is that the brackets are actually helping now that i piled them on ai-generated
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>>8481491
Could make loras out of them, if you have enough gens saved. My favorite mixes are taken from NAIv3.
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is it artist: or by or nothing in v4
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i only gen interracial with lolis, with big woman it's not as hot/empowering
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Do you copy the UC on each character or do you leave it empty?
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>>8481640
first one
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>>8481641
I like both but I can understand the appeal of size difference, interracial or not, and lolis are perfect for it.
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>>8481632
LMAOOOOOOOO coping is insane. Thee million views on every single video just come from nothingness. While of course not everyone wathes it,An absolutely crazy amount of percentage of people watch it. Literally it even gets traction in japan. The point is the humiliation,people see it as an animal fucking a good girl, doesn't stop it from being one of the most loved category. The guilt amplifies pleasure, thats the reason why people "GO" into threads and comment sections about ntr. They say "uh i hate this" AFTER they nut to it
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>>8481643
yes i think you are right
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>>8481634
embarrassing
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>>8481640
I use nothing, both seem to work, but it's faster to not write anything.
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>>8481634
At this rate the NAI discord is going to end up like the Cascade discord where the only people left are enablers of a schizo that made a dogshit model
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>>8481646
meta tags are the same as v3
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>>8481645
i meant realistic, ive seen it a lot in hentai
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>>8481645
0.0375% of 8 billion
A bigger percentage of the population has 6 toes on one foot
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>>8481640
I'm not sure but I think that those that know what they are doing will train the model to accept all the different ways.
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>>8481645
> The cuck's confession, chapter 2.
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>>8481647
>>8481650
embarrassing indeed...
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>>8481645
In Asia before that there was always the "tanned antagonist fucking the girl" trope, and it makes sense since in many cultures, working under the sun (and getting a tan) = peasant activity vs being a noble (and being white and delicate).
It's why being as pale as possible is seen as a beauty thing.
What annoys me is like >>8481610 said the whole racewar modern political bullshit that is a boner killer for me.
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>>8481655
i meant thats what i did too, hentai is way hotter
>>8481656
lol what? One of thise blacked vids has literally like 500 million views. One.
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interracial, dark-skinned male in negatives
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NAIgroids this isn't a good look
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>>8481664
>1boy, 2girls, elden ring,(...).png
They are too skinny.
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>>8481659
why did leleck stop posting
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>>8481664
Thats like music videos those are 90% rewatches, you guys are so obsessed its crazy
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it got a lot better when i removed quality tags from positives, they fight the artist imo
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>>8481655
realistic in general (for anything) looks ugly with very few exceptions with actually pretty girls and no weird zooms on vaginas and other shit ideas
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>>8481669
untrue, melina is canonically flat as a board
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kurumuz is fighting on discord about the artifacts lol
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>>8481666
>interracial
But what if I want to generate BLEACHED?
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can someone call kurumuz a nogen in the discord please
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>>8481673
same, so far removed all quality tags and added my own, removed UCs and added my own, and added ai generated and koikatsu (medium) in the negatives
these give me better output
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>>8481678
interracial is completely overfit on black male, dataset bias
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kurumuz said something in the discord!
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>>8481680
what negs?
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>>8481666
yup, based
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would you milk kurumuz to kurisu for unlimited opus and anlas
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>>8481650
the local tools scare the turk
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>>8481684
very minimalistic as I check each time if they make the outcome weirder or better

displeasing, very displeasing, sketch, deformed, text, signature, blurry, anime, {{{{ai-generated}}}}, koikatsu (medium)
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>>8481686
>unlimited opus and anlas
maybe if you asked me a year ago, anlas stocks have tanked in the past week
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>>8481680
That just changed everything, thanks.
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kurumuz wrote something else!
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>>8481688
you think displeasing actually works? hmm
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>>8481672
lol, sure thing, the millions of views on thousands of vids DAILY are all from the same person, right?
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>>8481691
kino
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>>8481694
I added them by default, at least they don't seem to hurt, and they're documented so I use them.

>>8481692
you're welcome
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>>8481687
>website shitters don't know they could use Adetailer with NAI since v3 with the webui extension
KEEEEEK
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>>8481699
i look like that
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>>8481695
I can show you a hundred baby learning videos with 9 billion views, but I'm not dumb enough to think aliens on other planets are watching those
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>>8481699
sovl
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>>8481699
ZOOWEE MAMA
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>>8481702
NO!!!!! I CAN'T BE THE ONLY """WHITE""" PERSON WATCHING THAT, SHUT UP
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>>8480798
also 3090 bro here, styles about an hour
concepts/characters about 10-15 minutes
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>>8481708
>styles about an hour
holy slopconfig
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>>8481710
normally id say this is /aco/ but it was made with nai v4 so it cant be due to only being trained on japanese art
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>>8481706
with every picture i post i get another white boy somewhere on the planet addicted to interracial porn
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>>8480798
a couple of weeks or months
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>>8481716
MAMA MIA
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>>8481714
maybe if it wasn't so /aco/
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>>8480798
3060 12gb here - styles take 1.5-2 hours at batch1, 1.2-1.5 for batch4grad4.
characters should take less since they generally don't require as many steps.
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>>8481716
MAMA LUIGI
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>>8481716
why he dumpy?
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but enough of that, let's talk about nai and kurumuz and nai and kurumuz
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>>8481724
melty
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>>8481724
we talked about jordach and cascade for half a year...
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>>8480798
I'm down to about 30 minutes for a style lora on a 3090, and then 10 minutes or so for a concept or character lora.
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>>8481718
What do you think wb watch on twitter?
RWBY -> Rwby porn -> Rwby interracial porn -> Interracial porn pipeline is real
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>>8481699
so this is the power of NAIv4...
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>>8481727
>>8481720
>>8481716
>>8481710
>>8481699
what the fuck did they train onnnnnn
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>>8481731
so that's why cathag is such a faggot
>captcha: SP0T on
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>>8481731
I do not know what rwby means, kind sir
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>>8481736
kek
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>>8481738
is it a black guy that hypnotized her? is that the plot twist?
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>>8481744
why are you gae
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>>8481737
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>>8481746
no, but I'm black
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>>8481745
delet
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>>8481752
sorry for your loss
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>>8481752
why?
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>>8481749
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is it possible to gen shota reverse suspended congress a milf?
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Creativitylet
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>>8481737
3D "cartoon" show, anime-inspired
actually pretty decent for two and half seasons, then it goes downhill fast
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>>8481757
>nintendo
>>>/aco/
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>>8481761
wait a minute, this is a repost and i would know as i have a great memory
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>>8481764
correct, is a repost
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>>8481766
please do not repost gens without warning
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>>8481768
sorry, this one is also a repost
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>>8481757
>>>/e/
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>>8481362
>>8481299
ok i did this with my quality tags (Illustrious btw) and ended up with this order, which seems to be an improvement over what I had:

best quality, detailed face, detailed eyes, very aesthetic, ultra-detailed, newest, hetero, very awa, highres, high resolution, detailed background, afterimage, nsfw, masterpiece, official style, absurdres, explicit, motion lines, anime coloring

masterpiece kinda looked like slop so it got a low ranking.
since I was genning 1girl I picked the ones that had detailed faces as opposed to shitty blurred faces so that's why "detailed face" ended up so high. but I think it works well.
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>>8481607
please accept this short haired marisa...
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>>8481771
box?
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>>8481771
Ram! :D
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Local BROTHERS Stand toegether!
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finally, let's talk about discord kurumuz comments!
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>>8481775
thanks, works nice for my ellen joe toddler anilingus gens
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sending you a fax with kurumuz's entire chat history rn
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>>8481778
Not him, just using the same lora he always uses.
>>8481777
Before upscaling
https://files.catbox.moe/78hir3.png
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>>8481786
thanks!
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>>8481786
>Not him, just using the same lora he always uses.
:(
Hi not-Ram :)
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>>8481782
>Someone posted a gen at 50 steps with the highest resolution full of artifacts
>Kurumuz and the others hurried to replicate it
>They all still had artifacts
>"yeah well it's still better than local just inpaint bro"
OHNONONONONONONONO
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>>8481775
>afterimage
>hetero
>motion lines
why these?
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>>8481793
lmao
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I propose next thread to consist entirely of kurumuz discord screenshots
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>>8481782
Dude is getting close to writing a "skill issue" wall of text copypasta, I hope cord trannies will push him over the edge.
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>>8481796
just make a kurumuz thread bwo
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>>8481797
Maybe ChatGPT can write him some better retorts
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I am a dark-skinned male
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I am a pale-skinned female
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>>8481801
why?
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>>8481776
Thanks!
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>>8481794
ah well it's always subjective. I'm not sure about hetero it just ended up in the mix alongside nsfw (I also had "uncensored" in there for a while but I removed it for some reason).

But I really love afterimage and motion lines for conveying movement in a static image.
motion_blur is shit though never use motion_blur, just like you turn it off in video games too. shit game setting, shit danbooru tag.
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I am
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new thread WHEN? I have lalatinas to repost
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i'm charcoal skinned femboy
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>>8479711 (OP)
next thread should be /kcg/ Kurumuz Comments General #1
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>>8481801
sorry to hear that, hope you get better
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>>8481805
My father was a dark-skinned male and so was his father before him. It's a family tradition.
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>>8480706
prompt? curious how you got the style to work on v4
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>>8479716
kill yourself
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>>8479716
testing
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>>8481373
I don't mind the LoRA autism.
At least they try the new tools and give their takes here.
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>>8481939
its local
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>>8482354
thanks anon, what model out of curiosity?
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>>8482401
Noob :) + Messing with a Floox lora to test out a few things
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>>8481602
Another pseudo-Ginfag turned out to be a freak. Grrr.
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>>8481775
will try this later
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>>8482262
uoooh
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>>8480023
See that's exactly why I fucking love normal people
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>>8480197
>I used to provide shine for my prompts' dicks
kek, how are you gonna do that now?
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