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Welcome to /k/, 4chan's weapons board. Our board centers around weapons, armor, and other myriad military technology. While guns are the primary topic, threads involving any other sort of weapons, from swords and knives to tanks and jet fighters, come up frequently as well.

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Mr. Joseph /k/endo? I'm going to Raccoon City and I need something robust, precise.
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>>65012902
eh not really, just for that specific model(who the fuck wants barrys edge)
You can probably get a standard jill/chris samurai edge for like 1200, the real issue is sourcing a real beretta because none of the clones really fit the look and Beretta has only gotten more expensive with trumps kike taxes, and depending on how autistic you are for the small details a bogstandard 92fs wont cut it either.
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>>65012902
Yeah, but that's the price of a bare bones beretta 92. I could get a friend at the port to mill that for me for about $100. Are they just evil or something?
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So is it possible to get a USP for less than $1000 or am I just fucked? Is it even possible to change the grip to match the OG one? I really want a silver ghost but man its allot of money to throw down for a mantle piece, I think the only way I can justify is if go full autismo and turn into a pcc build.
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>>65013622
>its allot of money to throw down for a mantle piece
If its only for display, just get the airsoft one that I'm sure Tokyo Marui makes
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>>65013885
Woops
https://www.tokyomaruiairsoft.com/product-page/sg-09r-gas-blowback-pistol

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Let's have a Ruger 10/22 Appreciation thread
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>>65003820
I have the same set up without the magnifier and the Holosun is a lot further forward since there's no eye relief
Amazing bullpup kit that actually makes the trigger feel smoother.
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>>65009355
idk
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Luv me 10/22.
Haet these new retarded stocks they're apparently swapping to.
Simple as.
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>>65003548
OP pic is a dead model AFAIK. Incoming receiver lawyer text so if you want an old model, get it now. New ones coming with factory BX triggers and upgrades though. Frankly, having BX triggers become so common they're readily available for what old trigger groups go for now is going to be nice. Also, pic shows lawyer text on a FACTORY MADE SBR. God damn, can't even get away from it there!

>>65013077
>why not just use the old plastic stock design.jpg
Yeah and not to mention,
>redesign the plastic stock
>can do ANYTHING
I mean ANYTHING with the design
>here's your paper thin sling loops bro
No magpul QD cups? They're just better. A MS1 non-QD is like $30. I could probably find one with QD for under $40. After using those I question why the hell I tortured myself with shitty slings in the past. A silent sling on an M4 with a Magpul stock is the only thing that came anywhere close to as usable and comfortable. Why anyone tortures themselves with bottom sling loops/studs I will never understand. Looks good. Carries like ass. Double that for wanting any style of carrying other than on shoulder or if you need to wear ANY packs or pouches for hunting.
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Does your 10/22 shoot arrows?
If not, why not?
http://www.swivelmachine.com/html/rimfire.htm

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I m working in black sea relatively close to Ukraine. This shit just floated near my ship.
For my untrained k eyes looks like some rocket that run out of fuel and floating with the warhead underwater
Can some of you k conneseuires confirm or debunk this?
Should i panic it this shit touches my ship or i hit it by mistake?
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>>65013466
>don't know. I'd expect a used booster to be open on both ends like a tube (maybe it isn't and it's sealed at the top),
Obviously it's sealed on top and nozzle on the bottom. Air is traped in the top part this is why it floats.
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>>65013475
>>65013488
whithout doubt.
Physically carrying on the flame from the booster to the seperation charge and then to the sustaining motor would be how I assumed this worked and you'd need a hole in the top of the booster for it. But I'm no russian rocket engineer so I'm just speculating
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>>65013522
Some 2 stage hobby rockets work like this with a delay grain sealing the first stage during boost and burning through to ignite the second stage but it's not very reliable as temperature effects burn rate.
Military 2 stages use an accelerometer in the second stage to ignite when the first stops providing boost and the second stage igniting is what pushes the stages apart.
The ogive nose cone in OP pic fits into the nozzle bell of the second stage.
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>>65013640
I don't think S-22 even has separation mechanism.
I believe during acceleration stages are held together by acceleration forces. Separation is achieved by drag force after motor burn out.
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>>65013415
>I guess it was SA-22 standing near coast and firing to sea direction
Likely that but there is also a ship-based Pantsir-M, and IIRC the Russians also put some SPAA systems in landing craft or on the helicopter deck of other ships, to expand their air defence envelope around Crimea and some of the oil platforms

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Western humanitarianism is completely fucking us.
Our ideas of war, this bullshit with some threats, sanctions, "the coalition", then the air war... we know how it ALWAYS goes. Rolling back the enemy layers while trying to not murder "the people".
Why?
Why not begin as a baseline with pure mulching numbers with the advantage being not some retarded COIN-huffing *^REGIMECHANGE^*? Why are we strategically slicing away refineries and single ships tied up empty in port?
The United states has the power to begin a set amount of murder per day, and if the enemy doesn't surrender it can go on another day forever.
No more hiding behind your bargain bin Pol Pot, the regime getting changed is your ghettos on fire.
The enemy will never suddenly understand and become civilized. The enemy will hide in a hole in the dirt with an RPG 7 years after you killed his cult leaders.
Even the post war picture is better with complete eradication. Our urge to reset the area and rebuild can be wonderfully channeled in a newly deserted say "subcontinent".
Overpopulation goes down, pollution goes down, weapons get super cheap and mass produced; who gives a fuck about guidance when there is "explosions per square meter"?
Thirdies will never ever be worth the cost of doing anything but unlimited saturation bombing until we can't find anyone who wants to surrender.

So can we compare and contrast the School of Surgical versus the School of Blood? Historic examples either way?
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Western military logic has looked at ultimate horror and turned away. Isn't that insane? When humans want to avoid horror it become a tactical move to isolate the enemy's choices to compliance and horror.
As long as we're providing the alternative future of voting and gay rights and stuff ort whatever is nice. Politics becomes a banal irrelevant thing in the face of war.
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COIN, Hearts and Minds, Development...
Let me say I'm willing to entertain it as a military policy and objective set; show me it ever worked ever in the third world. Which shithole is no longer a shithole?
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>>65013393
If carpet bombing everything was the correct strategy, they would be doing that. They're not doing that, so clearly it's not the correct strategy in this scenario.
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>>65013738
You fought it allied with stalin, who was even worse than the austrian painter. And had no problem him slaughtering millions in his own concentration camps as long as it is geographically out of sight, out of mind.

WW2 is morally no high ground to stand on
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>>65013434
>Further, in the same way the Marshall Plan didn't civilize Iraq or Afghanistan when we re-ran it.
Nobody re-ran shit. It was a neocon grift for Halliburton and pals. Lots of boomers in "construction and logistics services" got boats and planes.

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any excuse to post sharp objects is a good one.
here's the finnish puukko. comes in many varieties, often with regional variations depending on very local craftsmen from small villages.
this example is probably from härmä desu.
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Scottish Dirk, Pattern Welded steel
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>>65013397
Sgian Dubh to compliment it, both are razor sharp
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>>65007537
Somewhat similar to the European infantry dusacks. Used as melee weapon for infantry in support of bayonet or for troops that didn't have rifles. Basically a very crude and cheap sabre or machete.
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>>65006098
Heh some of them made their way into Poland, I remember seeing them on the fairs and markets when I was a kid.

For me it would be finka (meaning Finnish knife), found on the belt or in the pocket of most scouts in Poland.

Mine is only around 15cm long and has bakelite handle, made probably in the 80's, my mom used it when she was a girl scout and then gave it to me.
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>>65011380
I've got the Frost's Mora 2nd from top right back in the 80's
Thought I'd lost it decades ago but it just showed up, kind of funny holding it now as its genuinely a tiny scout knife for kid-size hands

I don't want to go out in public with these ticking time bombs everywhere. I don't need to see that shit.
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Total Sigger Extermination
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>>65013840
>well there sonny you looking for your first gun for self defense?
>do I have a deal for you!
>this is the legendary sig p320, same gun the us military uses!
>and I can let you have this one at 15% off, special new customer deal just for you!
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p365 is a very common carry gun, yeah
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>>65013890
inb4 noguns OP starts claiming 365s have the same issue. or he talks about the striker FUD

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"fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man" - Patton

This was true at the time because if you moved an army fast enough, the enemy could not locate you, not report back to command, and not coordinate any resistance to you.

None of these things are true anymore therefore the statement is no longer true.

pic unrel
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>>65012418
>limited power projection
I guess zero is a limit.

How would you maintain a navy like this? Maybe if you want only a brown watter navy, you could to part of the work. But maintaining a blue watter navy that can protect shipping sounds like an impossibility if everyone is on a 1 week rotation.
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>>65012070
cont. >>65013171

>An electronic gun that was fully mine would indeed be fucking awesome. I'd love to have something that little hands could not misuse no matter what, that criminals would also find useless, and that had a few other quality of life niceties that you'd get for free (perfectly adjustable good trigger wherever you wanted or made sense, automatic built-in shot counting and so on).
No, it wouldn't. You're just a neophyte with glowing eyes, whom has no idea about the reality. You don't need companies doing "enshittification" for the product to become worse once you start adding bullshit. It happens organically because you add unnecessary over-complicated and hard to rely on parts into the mix. A gun with electronics, even made without enshittification goals, is still a gun which will:
- fail you at the most important time, not because a bullet is a dud or it failed to extract or the metal part broke, but because the code running inside crashed, froze, bugged out or just had a brain fart with something like garbage collection, race conditions or something else;
- fail you because the batteries died;
- fail you because the sensor died fully or partially;
- etc, etc, etc;

You're basically bolting the most unreliable and hard to debug part of the device into the mix and expecting it to become better. Lol, lmao.
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1. The US slept through the last 4+ years of the russia-ukraine war and didn't learn anything, such as the drone stuff, because of hubris. "Hurr-durr a real army wouldn't have issues with drones" and such. To the point of denying the propositions of ukies to share experience, tech and other such stuff just months ago before the attack on Iran. What followed was expected. Shooting Patriot PAC-3s at drones. Not being able to shot down drones. Getting bases attacked by drones. "Hurr-durr a real army would have EW" and such. Nice lost radars mkay...

2. The planning and decision making degenerated to a borderline russia-tier. The lies, the lack of plans, the lack of vision of what needs to be done. The fact that nobody assumed the issues in the strait of Hormuz - is this amateur hour? Now retards will probably send muhrines to that shitty island only for them to get shot by drones from the coast. What a fuckin' shitshow.
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>>65013171
>you basically open up the door to cloning and fucking up any significant R&D investment, why bother to invest billions in R&D, when retards can buy you product and get the full data package for reverse engineering it, thus getting the ability to make a clone without all those investments, i.e. your killing your own businesses and giving power to retards abroad to compete with you;
This can be done anyway. Binary is essentially zero barrier at this point to any serious RE effort anon, what you wrote there is the equivalent of saying
>"without the source code nobody can discovery security vulnerabilities!"
Lack of source is only a barrier for normal people trying to make improvements. And in this case we're also talking hardware as the key component. If someone violates a company's IP, they can sue them and with hardware that's not something trivial to avoid. You've gotten too far into the "I can pirate a movie so IP is dead!" mindset. Once actual for-profit companies usage come into the picture that is way less trivial.
>you break apart the economy of a ton of industries where
And yet somehow none of that was an issue until 15 years ago or so. So good. If their only business model is to artificially squeeze people then they deserve to die.
>right to repair
Not something I support fwiw, but that's not the same thing as BLOCKING people from trying to repair themselves.
>>65013182
>a pile of literal fudd FUD
Anon, electronics can be far more reliable then guns themselves by a wide margin. All the idiotic fear larp you write is proven wrong every single day.
>the most unreliable and hard to debug part of the device
You have this backwards. Guns and ammo are massively less reliable and harder to debug then solid state electronics.
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>>65013202
>such as the drone stuff, because of hubris
I don't think this is it in multiple ways:
- We've had a massive change of administration with total retards coming into power, who add onto that a mindless opposition to anything anyone else did before and videogame logic they think is real. That's not "the US" sleeping through the war, we were definitely paying attention, and nobody else would have launched a retarded war like this.
- To the extent things have been delayed further then that it's less "hubris" and more "entrenched interests, path dependency, contractor issues" etc.
>2. The planning and decision making degenerated to a borderline russia-tier. The lies, the lack of plans, the lack of vision of what needs to be done. The fact that nobody assumed the issues in the strait of Hormuz - is this amateur hour? Now retards will probably send muhrines to that shitty island only for them to get shot by drones from the coast. What a fuckin' shitshow.
This is all completely true though. It's beyond amateur hour. I mean holy shit, here's a gary larson cartoon about the fucking strait of Hormuz with mines and cheap dangerous boats of the day and shit FROM NINETEEN FUCKING EIGHTY SEVEN (1987) jesus christ.
>noooobody could have seen this coming!!
FFS

Aight, I'll start off by saying that Gundams are gay mary sue bullshit, and this thread is about the grunt suits - Zakus, GMs, all the gritty normal stuff that's piloted by grizzled adults, with normal hair colours.
So, my buddy and I are working on a tabletop wargame setting that's taking place post One Year War, where most law and order has collapsed for the short term, and lots of military units have kind of just gotten stranded and gone mercenary/warlord to survive.
I want the /K/ommando opinion on what a small Mercenary force of mobile suits might look like - you and the lads, cruising around the solar system and the colonies, picking fights on behalf of the Zeon rump state or the sketchy Earth glowies, fighting pirates, warlords, rogue colonies, and sometimes deliberately fucking with the major powers on behalf of their rivals.
Build your squad and your lore, gentlemen.
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>>65012154
Her hair spheres or her chest spheres? I hear both are delightfully soft with just the right amount of firmness.
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>>65000505
This shit will not last 10 minutes in todays battle fields drones, javelins, rpgs, mines, arty etc. They are just metal grunts that would face the same fate as ziggers and hohols now.
Even more vulnerable due to size, movement limitations, fov, reaction speed
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>>65013707
Actually, the Zaku would do pretty well considering how much spaced armor it has. Seriously, just look at the mass to size ratio. Damn thing must be mostly hollow.
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>>65013727
No. If tanks can get btfoed to oblivion this shit has no chance.
Russia tried with the meme turtle tank. They don t try it anymore.
Drones are too small too fast to many and have enough payload to penetrate tank armor. It can survive 1 2 3 4 hits. Drones are plenty and cheap
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>>65013744
You also tend to need half a dozen drones to kill a turtle tank and Zakus have much better jamming and mobility.

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>memes are officially state sanctioned weapons

i want off this fuck fuck circus
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>>65013161
>>65013299
What is a country but a meme that a whole lot of people buy into?
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>>65013869
Yeah, but large format printers are cunts of things and the IT dept will call for a jihad
>in this economy!
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>>65013136
Maybe if you knew and used the correct definition for "meme" you wouldn't look like Hegseth's retarded fuckstick.

Every little joke posted on Facebook isn't a fucking meme. A meme is a shared idea a large amount of people use.
Wiping your ass is a meme.
Jokes about jews and bagels are memes
>we made a video about bombing sandniggers using Lego aesthetics
Is not a meme.
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>>65013884
>Wiping your ass is a meme
Good morning sir
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>>65013887
>Milhouse
not a meme.
>good morning SAAR
Meme

You get it now?

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After the stock market xloses america will begin the invasion of karg island.
Lets make our bet on what will happen.
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>>65013806
But there won't be high casualties Ackmet.
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>>65013806
>Americans don’t have the guts
And? You have a lame duck President set on military action and a Congress that won't stop him even if he goes past the 60 day window.
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Angry turdies today
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>>65013878
Something went sideways for them yesterday, ive been seeing them babble on YT comments about how the ayatollah is invincible
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>>65013878
Iran returned to tradition and started recruiting 12 year olds again.

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>drones are not the future chud, Air power is still king
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>>65013825
>twitter screencap
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>>65013825
>drones flying in and not doing anything, they think just testing security responses
>make it sound like the base got bombed into oblivion and taken out of commission when it was just shut down to investigate

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>be me
>Nippanon
>living on Tanegashima island
>lots of different barbarian trade ships come and go
>no biggie
>until the white-skin Nanbans
>never seen anybody like them
>their eyes have weird colors
>hair, too
>no idea where they came from
>and the iron tubes
>they have these weird long iron tubes held on wood
>a bunch of some sand-looking drug is poured into the tube
>a lead ball is dropped in after
>more drug is added to this little pan on the side of the tube

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>>65013331
Neither European or Japanese gunmakers kept records, however, you can estimate using the recorded number of teppo-gumi present in battles. The Battle of Sekigahara in 1600 had over 55,000+ matchlock armed troops, with an estimated total production of firearms estimating around 300,000 from the time of their introduction to the time Japan was fully unified, which does indeed beat out even the Dutch, who only produced around 200,000.
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Tmdwu
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>>65012409
It didn't. That's why Japan needed Portuguese gunsmithing expertise to make guns, but could supply gunpowder on its own.
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>>65012409
Gunpowder isn't that difficult to make, once you find a decent source of sulphur (it's pretty abundant, any mineral spring which stinks like rotten eggs marks a deposit), and you get gong farms (and associated nitre refineries) up and running.
Takes a bit of time before the nitrate crystals start growing, so the sooner you start, the better.

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Why did /k/'s favorite tripfag end up like this?
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>>65012987
probably oxide. Wait, does Oxide still trip?
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>>65013044
>No one has ever been convicted of "premeditated self defense"
A guy in Texas was literally convicted for trying to do that in Austin during BLM protests. The governor pardoned him, though.
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>>65013810
Oxide became an actual Army aviator, and is a pretty cool cat. Like any warrant officer, he's absent as fuck unless it's time to do fun shit.
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>>65012894
Flandre becoming a tranny is both baffling and completely in character.
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>>65012894
>flaunting a mental disorder that results in pretending to be the opposite sex
What a strange and disturbing thing to witness.


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