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When the Geran/Shahed drones first appeared, I figured Russia would use them smartly in a classic SEAD/DEAD role: send waves of them to force Ukrainian IADS to light up radars and reveal positions, then follow up with VKS aircraft, with anti-radiation missiles to systematically dismantle those defenses.

Russia instead has chosen the most brain-dead and wasteful approach, by treating the Geran/Shaheds s as nothing more than slow, low-cost cruise missiles hurled directly at static infrastructure targets, while leaving the overwhelming majority of Ukraine's air defenses intact and free to keep operating.

They're banking entirely on brute-force volume and saturation to get a few through, completely abandoning any effort at SEAD/DEAD. But the thing is that they're not even achieving any kind of saturation effect since, the launches are scattered haphazardly across random cities, regions, and targets all over Ukraine that changes every night (some they they go after energy infrastructure, some other go after some depots, some others they try to hit some cities...), instead of making up their minds and concentrate them single high-value area, frontline sector, or even one major city at a time, and keep hitting them until achieving disruption or collapse. This is also precisely why so few targets are actually hit despite hundreds being launched every night, and so many of them are intercepted.

By contrast, even in the recent U.S. operation in Venezuela, the LUCAS drones (the American Shahed clones) were properly integrated into a coordinated SEAD/DEAD package.
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>>64749866
They did try SEAD.
But then something led to :
>the lack of AWACS
And it was glorious.
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>>64749579
> not achieving anything
They're affecting energy infrastructure and causing evacuations. -15°C without power or heating is no joke. I assume it's supposed to affect the economy and make the population war-weary, whether that'll actually win them anything remains to be seen.

I hope ukraine will return the favor when moskow is covered by some -30° weather.
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>>64749431
>smartly in a classic SEAD/DEAD role
ah yes, classic sead against an opponent with constant supply line of air defense assets from a whole continent sized block of countries in its near and immediate vicinity. the more strategic and long term approach, of course, would be to simply the exhaust said opponent with cheap and mass produced drones. demilitarizing not just your direct enemy, but a whole conglomerate of countries behind him.

>while leaving the overwhelming majority of Ukraine's air defenses intact and free to keep operating.
not the impression you'd get from kiev, odessa, dnepropetrovsk, krivoy rog, and whole host of other big cities pounded with impunity every night now. ukrainian air defenses have been mostly absent or imponent repelling attacks even on those. doesn't really bode well for the countries operating those same exact types of systems, with a lot smaller industrial base, much weaker power grid and far lesser human resources to spare.
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>>64751303
>Most drones are intercepted by simpler systems.
Even simpler these days, interceptor drones are basically FPVs optimised for a2a pursuits. They're cheap enough to be widely deployed, so relatively few drones reach the capital these days.
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>>64749851
>>64750979
Israel and Iran both licensed the design from the South African company that ended up with the rights to the Dornier DAR. Iran evidently couldn't come up with the necessary electronics or really needed a shitty cruise missile, because they designed the Shahed as a prop powered cruise missile rather than an anti radiation drone.

>average k user
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So Glavset is panicking about Iran, good to know.
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>>64751417
They are worried, it isn't panic until the BBC spam starts.
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>>64751406
>Average Russian shill mocker

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Where my arm chair generals at? What the actual best way to pull this off?

Apparently only springtime is possible because other than that the strait is too choppy.

Eastern shore is all rocks so you can’t even do a landing over there.

Also can’t do any of the tactics from ukraine since basements aren’t a thing due to the water table, there a ton of parking garages and subway stations though.
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>>64751357
You still don't get it. What you said might've been true ten years ago. But the old structure of allies and enemies is gone. Trump, Xi and Putin all swear by world divided into spehere's of influence meaning superpowers ("""superpowers""" in case of Russia) can do whatever they want in their backyard. And they don't disturb each other when doing so. Every international politic is trransactionary only now.
That might potentially change in case next Potus is a sane person. Might.
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>>64751331
I'm sure none of the 23 million civilians will object to being invaded and occupied.
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>>64751252
>The only thing the rest of the world wants from Taiwan to that degree are semiconductors. Those won't keep the lights on or feed people, so the PRC could easily afford to let those out. They could even hold that back as a "compromise" move that allows western countries to present a descalation to their people.
Taiwan just says that it will cease all shipments of semiconductors until the blockade goes away
what now, retard-kun?
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>>64749877
Taiwan is not going to be something easy like Ukraine.
China is going to attempt a sustained cyber warfare effort, cutting off communications and cutting underwater fiber. They will have their fishing boats pulled in and encircle the blockade while Chinese warships encircle the island. They will attempt if no resistance to send invasion forces after launching rockets and SRBMs at the island.
Taiwan has a massive tunnel network like Switzerland and storage for fuel, food, and water to hold out against an invasion or a sustained blockade. Taiwan also has more of a home field advantage because China has to ferry troops over the strait and Taiwan has an entire male population with at least some military experience they can call on.
Taiwan is also expecting American bases in Japan and the Philippines to come online in short order, along with second island chain bases.
Depending on unknowns, the USA might start sinking chinese surface ships. The weapons we used in Venezuela to incapacitate people are the same ones we have adapted to cruise missiles. They're going to knock the type 052 and type 055 comms and tracking offline while they're getting planted by LRASMs and JASSM-ER missiles from B-52H bombers launching from the Philippines. Simultaneously, China will see their bases in the SCS destroyed.
China can attack Filipino bases but they're going to draw Manila into the war. Japan is also expected to be in the war. China can barely project power from its own shores, and China is going to have to pull its ships back.
China will lose access to oil shipments, and will see its refineries and resupply ships become high value targets.
In the end, China has a LOT of surface combatants and the USA has a LOT of long range strike bombers China can't hit from standoff range. China is going to lose surface combatants and is likely going to lose a third time.
China will also earn permanent enmity from the west, likely a complete trade embargo overseas.
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>>64751350
The fuck is China going to do about it? Fire their little water cannons at us?

why didn't the vector catch on?
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>>64750377
Crap, I meant for this post (>>64750390) to be in response to you.
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10mm Vector is pretty swag. .45 or 9mm though idk
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>>64750390
>>64750392
When you've got it properly shouldered. I'm not saying everyone should or does intentionally shoot smgs from the hip like eighties movies, but for instant reactions to nearby surprises or for stances that are working around awkward environments, it could matter.
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>>64747359
>"It's a piece of shit and other options are better."
>"Love mine. No issues."

I don't understand.
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>>64750972
Almost like use case matters. Or something.

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I was reading about this guy and he had over 350+ kills. Why does this make me jealous?
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>>64751340
>>64751356
Avgas was always the problem. It's constant balance how much you spend on combat operations and on training. Germany had no abundance of avgas (they annually spend around their annual production), it was zero summ game, they could only increase training at the expenses of combat operations and vice versa.
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Allies be like
>we were smart!
https://thundersaidenergy.com/2022/03/03/oil-and-war-ten-conclusions-from-wwii/
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>>64751196
>Keeping your aces in combat wasnt so much a deliberate choice as it was a necessity to keep the rapidly thinning number of expericenced frontline pilots from utterly collapsing
this
the Japs were criminally negligent in not expanding their training pipeline before the war
they assumed that one swift blow would collapse the American house of cards, and this assumption impacted all their plans
>the Americans were spoiled in comparison with a much more robust training pipeline
more like they (and the RAF) shat out pilots faster with fewer training hours, relative to their enemies
this was ultimately a good decision

>jpg
for consistency's sake Shuck should only record his career-ender, not both instances of being wounded

>>64751345
>the Luftwaffe had the strictest kill claim regulations of any airforce in the war
wrong

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>>64751390
>the Japs were criminally negligent in not expanding their training pipeline before the war
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>>64751390
>more like they (and the RAF) shat out pilots faster with fewer training hours, relative to their enemies

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It's up!: https://youtu.be/APmgHMDOObk?
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Here's a better video that actually traces the routes and timing, and maps out maduros bunker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFz594f4C0Q
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>>64750179
It's just speculative resource wars, and venezuela is sitting on massive oil reserves. Not hard.
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>>64750002
>had they failed, we would've had another "Black Hawk Down" scenario, where a fast raid turned into a shit fest due to the downed choppers that allowed the local militia to mobilize, and lots of US casualties within the QRF sent to recover the dead/wounded from the crash.

They undoubtedly had a flying QRF just waiting to touch down next to a wreck and cut the bodies out. I wonder how they actually plan that eventuality?

Do littlebirds have the range to get into the city?
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>>64749693
His job isn't understanding geopol it's figuring out the best way to spend a small military budget.
He believes the lies the ruling class tell themselves because it's also what they tell him.
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>>64750801
It's pretty funny watching wannabe dictators piss off the military because they aren't smart enough to know how dictators retain power.

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Is that a fucking pistol real sight in the red dot cut out? Is PSA inventing a shotgun that can't be used as a shotgun because it has pistol sights for some reason?
the receiver is objectively the worst place to mount a red dot on a shotgun. the best option would be if you could get it low profile on the barrel or as a qd on a side rail like an AK, though the barrel, especially if you can get the bottom of the red dot below the receiver would be great because then you could have a red dot mounted for HD or turkey or if you're in one of the like 3 states that still require slug guns for durr and then you can take off the barrel, the red dot remains zeroed and you can put on a different barrel for birds or clays
I really don't understand this psa 570 thing. it looks like they just designed a gun to compete with turkshit and the mav 88 to be a ghetto blaster for blowing up trash on blm land
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>hey you know how there's two really good and perfected shotguns to choose from that you can buy anywhere for $199-399?
>and they have huge aftermarket?
>yeah let's copy them but make it cost $599
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>>64751174
you know remingshit went under right? it's just mossberg or turk/chinese shit or the used market at that price point
I don't even think it's actually mossberg at that price point, it's maverick. the cheapest made in America mossbergs on PSA's store are $415 slug guns. the cheapest nonmav, 12 gauge non shockwave smooth bore mossberg on psa's website is $488.
Granted I'd probably trust a mav 88 over turkshit
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>>64751207
I guess I don't see the point of buying this when you can buy the Mav 88 that comes with two different length barrels for $299

https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/shotguns/mossberg-maverick-88-field-security-combo-12-gauge-3in-blued-pump-shotgun-185in28in/p/1506620
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>>64751394
yeah I agree. the only advantage is I think the PSA is made in the US whereas the mav is made in mexico. but if you care about it being made in the USA you can just buy a regular mossberg. Mavs are probably fine anyway. most of the budget shit on a mav88 is budget shit mossberg was doing on the 500 until they bought maverick arms, at which point they slightly upgraded the 500
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>>64751402
didn't know any of that thanks

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All things precision shooting, no experience necessary.
Discuss rifles, barrels, action, glass, loads, groups, competitions, and anything else related to the pursuit of tighter groups and longer shots.
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>>64748829
Nice, sounds legit. I've been thinking about using magnum primers too, and I've only just started using vihtavouri powders. Seems like I'm getting there
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>>64750225
Pretty good groups for factory ammo desu
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>>64750352
Meant for
>>64749492
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>>64750352
Thanks, SK is really fantastic stuff, see image
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>>64727375
Has anybody else even noticed the Fletner effect causing the slugs to drift in the opposite direction of slug rotation beginning at about 750 yards?
If I understand correctly past a certain distance with high powered rifles the slug's axis of rotation is locked at the high angle necessary to lob it that far. It's trajectory is roughly a parabola and as it descends from it's high point the relative airflow means it is traveling "belly-on" to the wind. Say it's right hand twist rifling = the right hand side of the slug is causing air to pile up there - and the rotation is causing the left hand side to "pull in" a similar amount of air.
So like a baseball spun up to be a curve ball - the bullet's path curves, too. When I shoot 1000 yards it is obvious that all the projectiles hit the target in a nose-up attitude. At 1100 yards some of them "have laid over on their side" veered off center. At 1200 yds they are all pointing at random directions and accuracy has gone all to fuck. I don't have a left hand twist rifle to check it against. Also it stands to reason that if you fitted the gun with a custom left hand twist barrel - it would unscrew from the breech eventually. I ain't buying another different rifle to test this - just hoping million to one somebody has a left hand rifled rifle and they noticed this going the opposite way.

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why havent we seen jet troopers yet?
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>>64751185
You need to be 18 or older to post here, Anon, and preferably not brown.
>>64751204
>helo fucks off quickly while firing to suppress the enemy
Do you think the guys that got shot down by RPGs in Vietnam thought about doing that? Or the guys in Somalia? What about Iraq? Afghanistan in 2003? What about the shoot down in Afghanistan in 2005? Afghanistan one more time in 20011, you think they thought about doing that before being shot down?
It's almost as if an ambush is purposely planned to prevent people from "fucking off quickly" or reacting effectively.
>which do you think is the better scenario
Jet troopers supported by traditional rotary craft lingering and providing aerial support during/after seizure (fire support, casevac, crew/hostage extraction, etc.).
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>>64749608
>>64749622
>We determined your various leg cancers are not service related
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>>64751284
>You need to be 18 or older to post here, Anon, and preferably not brown.

And yet, you're still here trying to argue for usecases that don't exist because you think jet troopers are radical. I suppose being functionally retarded and functionally illiterate could also explain why you've yet to come with a time where someone would be conducting a boarding operation against a hostile vessel yet somehow able to safely get a RHIB/chopper to it safely but going up/down the rope is a major sticking point.
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>>64749568
>fly drone into area you need to hold from enemy infantry/armor
>land in concealment to reserve battery life and hold position
>ambush incoming enemies trying to take the sector
>repeat same steps with 1000 more drones
Seems to be working pretty good in the Prokrosk region.
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>>64749181
lowkirkenuinely, a great way for infantry to cross minefields

The sharpest thread on /k/.
Underrated Knives Edition
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>>64750488
I kind of liked the silver one.
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>>64750488
They're going to call it something else right?
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>>64750669
Yes it’s a new model line. Also the 3” options.

I bought a Terava Tiny Knife because I am retarded. Need to find a sheath option that isn’t 6 month waitlist from Germany.
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>>64750488
Haha, that's pretty nifty, actually.
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>>64750488
is this the 110 slim elite? I thought it was a limited run. A magnacut 110 might be something I need to buy.

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how do you defend yourself from homemade flame throwers and other rudimentary incendiaries?
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>>64748962
>Indian brown
As opposed to Indian black or Indian white? Dumb esl
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>>64741707
One of those aluminized furnace suits works pretty well.
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>>64748519
Gelled gas pressurised in a fire extinguisher is a standard improvised flamethrower, there were Johnnylabs instructions on old /k/
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>>64750219
as opposed to african brown or aborigine brown or pacific islander brown or japanese (delicious) brown
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>yapyapyap
Is there any thread with more Iran protest footage? Clearly some videos having been leaking through the internet blackout

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Kosovo will start producing military vehicles for the first time. In cooperation with Albania, the armored vehicles "Shota" currently produced there, will now also be produced in Kosovo, the Defense Ministry confirmed.
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>>64746658
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>>64746003
>women preying on shotas
>women pegging shotas
>futas gaping shotas
>men using shotas as onaholes
>crossdressing shotas being dominated by even younger shotas

>albanian futas filling kosovo(nian???) shotas
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>>64750123
UUUU
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>>64746658
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>>64746003
>shota
God why are they such podos?

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AK General /akg/
New Year, Same Shit Edition
>Thread #2085

Old thread here >>64623820
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>>64750942
it spergingly has to match the salmon pistol grip
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>>64750942
>noooooo not the heckin’ beautiful wood on my cheeply designed communist assault riflerino!
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Fuck ukraine I want my goddamn cheap Russian ammo again.
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>>64751344
Same but not going to happen for four simple reasons:
>monke won’t stop fucking around and finding out
>ukraine is not ready to succeed land
>even if the war did end tomorrow Russian weapon and ammunition sanctions would probably remain in place
>nothing good last forever
It’s time to let go of the past (AKs and russian ammo being the cheep brokenigga meta) and embrace the future (PSA AR-15 and AAC ammo being the cheep brokenigga meta)
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>>64750981
No mags. No sale.

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Skydagger, a Baykar affiliate in Türkiye, is now delivering 10000 FPV attack drones to the Turkish Armed Forces every month. The company has a target of producing 1 million units annually

https://x.com/haluk/status/2010371711334572432
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>Türkiye
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>>64748885
quite cool roachtech. It's good to see that they make all the sub-components on their own instead of buying them from china

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>Working powered exoskeletons have been real for nearly 20 years
>Working laser turrets have been real for nearly 20 years
>Working railguns have been real for nearly 20 years
>Working plasma cannons have been real for over 30 years
>Autonomous robots that understand simple commands have been around for over ten years
>People act like drones are the most advanced weapon around when we've been using them since WWII
What gives? Why is everyone still pretending that we're living the 20th century? People are so tired of waiting for these weapons that they're building the things themselves in their garages.
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>>64749256
That's the current theory for for THEL. Up until recently, the project wasn't considered a priority but all the drone attacks in Ukraine seems to have lit a firer under DARPA's ass.
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>>64748768
>MAURADER allegedly was scrapped.
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>>64746609
>everything else
Very narrow use case on a battlefield proper. Prototypes with hard physical limitations. Either physically unwieldy/consumptive for its purpose, a solution looking for a problem, a weapon that's not all that, or prohibitively expensive.
>robutts 'n' dronez
NOW you're cooking with gas. Part of the reason I've been so autistic about railing against AI isn't some gay Bluesky faggot shit about it stealing art. It's because someday in the very near future, they're going to load up a DARPA bot with all the biometric and surface web data that's been accumulated on you, hand it a Colt carbine, and have it patrol the streets with quadrotor overwatch (this will also have the necessary privacy invasion tools). No blue helmets or black helicopters, no National Guard operating on abuse of "emergency powers" or the militarization of police, no foreign sleeper agents-- just good ol' Officer Clanker "keeping the peace". They'll unveil it and have it do photo op walks on Venice Beach or some shit, and everyone will clap and wonder at how "safe" they are from sleepy bums and the occasional rowdy drunkard, right up until the first bad shoot involving a black guy repeatedly reaching into his coat pockets or something. Then it'll be periodic puff pieces about "the inherent racism of data sets AI is trained on" until the end of time, with nothing done to alleviate the actual problems. Mark my fucking words. They'll have biped LEO bots in major urban centers by 2050.
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>>64747202
>archaic
All this sci-fi crap you listed is archaic.
FPV drones are the future, and they actually just werk. And missiles for everything else
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>>64751363
>>64751386
Real third world hours


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