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You're tasked with building a kit to help Iranian resistance against the Ayatollah regime, the kits you build will be airdropped into Iranian territory in large dufflebags and then picked up by chosen operatives.

You have $3k per kit to try to arm an light resistance guerrilla fighter, you can only source items from the US civilian market. At minimum you should provide a rifle, a pistol, body armor, essential accessories and ammunition for both, as well as any survival or tactical implement you see necessary.

What kind of stuff do you pick?
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>>64757950
However much dynamite and fused blasting caps I can get for $2,990, and stick it in a $10 tool bag.
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>>64758158
smallpox
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>>64757950
>rifle
good idea
>a pistol, body armor
bad idea.

Rifle, and either night vision goggles or perhaps thermal. And some ammo. For one out of every pack. riffle and ammo and some grenades or something for the rest.
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>>64764664
>>64764664
>For one out of every pack
every 5th pack. Batteries and more ammo for the others but a rifle in every pack. Fudd Fudd Six could be fine, but it would be better to pack the kind of ammo that is already there.

So 30 cal ammo, 7.62x39 and 7.62x51
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>>64757950
Why would I do that? I would make Iran Sunni again and we would go to Israel and kill Israelis

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I went to the Muncie gun show was not bad, they had a few guns some nice handguns kind of cheap 9 mm Sw for $250 with two mags I was going to buy it but I saw a rifle I wanted but the guy wouldn't come down in price. Ended up buying nothing and then a bunch of stoned black kids showed up and a black dude with a large scar on his face who was trying to buy a whole bunch of ARS and pistol variants. I might go back tomorrow just to see if someone's willing to make a deal I don't have much money
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>>64766876
gosh you're right, let's make more gooner blogposts. that's what I come to /k/ for, to read the life story of somebody who posts cropped porn to blue boards as their primary social life.
>boo hoo you're being mean!
try not to cry into your spaghettios, faggots
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>>64766854
OP, glad you had fun but be careful if chimps are around like that. Don't go back at night.
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>>64766888
I'll cry into ya muddah's ass after I fuck her.
Fuck ya
mudda
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>>64766854
Sorry I missed you Anon, I just got off of work an hour ago and thought about driving over.
>>64766888
It's a step up over the usual schlock this board gets. I'll take a lust provoking image and a mostly irrelevant post over a bait image and a bait post.
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I LOVE GOBLINS SO FUCKING MUCH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>nearly 80 years
>barely any changes
How did they get it so right?
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>>64766546
genuine question, why cant they just "Modernize" by adding rails to furniture and dust cover?

(fuck captcha)
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>>64766844
There is nothing positively retaining an AKM or AK74 dust cover. It is just held in place by sloppy spring tension at the rear and a bit of friction at the front.
On the AK12 there's a pivoting locking cam that helps hold it in better on the front and a better hook up at the rear, but it is still imperfect and the zero is never held exactly between removals and reinstallations (good enough for government work, basically).

The issue is that the AK was designed around a 'trench' style receiver for manufacturing simplicity. It holds all the important components and tolerances and operating bits, and all the other stuff is allowed to be less intense.
But in this case a consequence is that the top cover, where you'd want to mount the optic, has to be removable to get the operating bits out and access to the chamber and the internals for cleaning. This inherently puts a limit on the potential repeatable accuracy of anything mounted to the top cover, even if you put effort into rectifying that problem - if not (like the AK74) the top cover is just unusable.
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>>64766313
Why would they even need to change it up? It wasn't as if Germany was going to get in a copyright dispute over the StG-44...
Anyways, the AK-47 is internally much more similar to the Garand than the StG-44. The concept, form factor and ammunition, yeah, those are a direct response to the StG. The ammunition was even developed during the war, as a response to 8mm Kurz.

>>64766347
Yes, sheet metal is cheaper at scale. Hell, machining from billet is cheaper and more reliable than casting for small batches and high quality components (such as a trunnion).

>>64766546
Nope. Even in the 1980s the concept of optics on every rifle was not standard doctrine for all respectable armies. You can't fault a 1970s design for not having reliable optics mounting - you can fault the Russians for sticking to that design into the 21st century.

>>64766844
Furniture and dust cover on an AK are not designed to hold zero: you can mount optics there, but they won't help you hit much. This can then be solved with complex and heavy rails systems, that add even more weight and bulk to an already heavy base rifle.
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>>64766303
>62x39 mm
So the bullet just sort of rolls down the barrel?
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>>64766932
No anon, it takes a crane to load.

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Are they good defense weapons against China and Russia?
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>>64766732
No where near Santa tier. More like Nanook tier.
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>weapons
They have a very narrow and specific use, which is long range patrols in extreme arctic terrain
In no way suited for an offensive war, certainly not in the Pacific
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>>64766732
Reindeer are faster in short bursts, so they'd be better in a quick race; but dogs are better at endurance. Also, dogs can kill and eat reindeer.
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>>64766706
you're brown
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>>64766706
>makes the same thread again
>Just alters the text in the OP slightly

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Best weapon to kill a swarm of insects going after you?
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>>64765150
Are those things edible? If they are, that looks like a lot of free food for the degenerates who eat bugs.
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>>64766666
We should start using Africides then
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>>64765168
this, or ducks
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>>64766215
>Locusts only turn evil at critical mass
Huh. I had no idea, that's fucking weird.
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>>64765237
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>>64766680
hmmmm

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Shitehawk edition

Insert that one handed challenge here

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About 50 rounds of doubles. .3-.4 split since I was shooting mostly reactively.
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>>64766934
Another 50 rounds but of Mozambique drills, shooting more predictively so .2 splits for the center shot then a .4 for the head
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>>64766938
Fliers were with my px4 compact* that I did a few drills to compare how easy mode a 2011 is

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What causes slavabooitis and how can it be cured?
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>>64766422
Slavabooism is caused by ignorance, of history, logic, and a lack of actual (non-propaganda) knowledge of the systems they're glazing.

Considering that it's hard to get the average slavaboo a chance to actually have to work with the tanks/artillery/jets they love (which should cure it pretty much instantly if you then give them an introduction to western kit of the same role) just educating them. That's boring as hell though, and a bullet would be a lot quicker.
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>>64766422
Cause is the desperate need to be "special" and be a faggot contrarian, or a pathological hatred of the U.S./NATO/West. These two causes are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
As >>64766430 has stated, only cure is a bullet.
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>>64766422
I guess that being the largest linguistic group in Europe and defeating the very Master Race itself does this to mothafacka.
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>>64766422
Like in many other aspects of life, there's a "grass is greener on the other side" lens that affects perception.
In the West you're more aware of procurement failures, not only because there's a higher degree of scrutiny and transparency but also because of a language barrier, out of the people translating military topics from Russian to English there's more of them affiliated with state media or enthusiasts with a nationalistic bias. Machine translation has somewhat breached this wall because you no longer need to learn a foreign language to the point of being proficient in technical jargon or pay a translator.
We also have a tendency to root for the underdog so we take Western technological dominance with a grain of salt - because we have fielded technology that had genuine flaws which needed to be ironed out, or made the wrong assumptions about conflict and weapon systems had their reputation stained by being used incorrectly. If you watched 2000s documentaries about the Vietnam air war or just followed the pop history narrative, missiles suck and fighter jets need guns. Big expensive jets lose while nimble and cheap fighters can dogfight them easily. It takes a lot of research to realize most of North Vietnam's success was in picking off fighter escorts flying in formation with strike packages and doing a hit and run, without even trying to dogfight. It's the pencil vs Space Pen fable all over again.
Also Russians were stealing all the gear from storage and selling it to Westoids for cheap so """surplus""" was a neat way to get a kit to go airsofting with. Just like many people want to dress as Vader or Storm Troopers despite the Empire being the bad guys, there's an allure in playing RedFor. LARPing with Russian kit in the late 2000s and early 2010s was cool. If you showed up wearing a 2003 Iraq invasion loadout in UCP you'd be the biggest fucking dork.
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Seeing Russian convoys just burning with supposed elite troops dead lying around them in groups in the early days of the offensive dispelled any notions I had of Russian competence.

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>go to https://catalog.archives.gov/search?availableOnline=true&endDate=1949&page=1&q=German%20aircraft&startDate=1940
>search some relevant term to your interests
>make sure to set filters to "available to access online" and filter for the year range
>bring back something cool
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>July 1991
>A starboard view of the battleship USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) as the ship passes the aircraft carrier USS MIDWAY (CV-41). Fighter Squadron 151 (VF-151) F-4 Phantom II aircraft and an A-6AE Intruder aircraft are parked on the flight deck in the foreground
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>>64765157
It's hard to beat honest-to-god film sometimes. I saw the Hateful Eight in the theaters twice, once on a normal modern (digital) screen and once during the roadtour where they brought film projectors and boy oh boy, the difference was amazing. 70mm Panavision on the Cine Capri (Tempe represent whoop whoop) just hits different.
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>An F-4 Phantom II aircraft, outlined in lights and pulling Santa's sleigh, decorates the aircraft carrier USS AMERICA (CV-66). Lights suspended from the island of the carrier form a Christmas tree. The display won first place in the large combatant category during Operation Decorama `85
Now thats what i call christmas spirit!
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>Sep 1980
>A close-up view of the right side of the tail section of a Soviet Tupolev Tu-95 Bear aircraft showing two crewmen inside. This photo was taken from a U.S. Air Force F-4 Phantom II aircraft observing the Bear over international waters
As some might have guessed, my keyword search is F-4 Phantom.
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>July 1980
>A view of an F-4 Phantom II aircraft that was left hanging over the edge of the port side flight deck of the aircraft carrier USS MIDWAY (CV-41) when the carrier collided with the Panamanian freighter CACTUS
Interested in how the hell this happened

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USA spent on average 250 000 bullets per kill in Afghanistan & Iraq.
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>>64766104
I literally state my doubt for the claimed number in the paragraph before.
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>>64766359
Look at that antiquated contraption, and I'm not just talking the tripod.
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>>64766359
Do you not realize that doctrine and tactics can vary country to country?
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>>64759962
>Please tell me that this is not the current state of the RuAF??
It isn't. They're on horses and donkeys now.
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>>64766359
Yep, it's Kirk. Fuck off to a boomer blog Kirk. For the weight of your German fetish a soldier could carry a Carl Gustav M3A1 with the smart scope, extra batteries and five (5) HE 448 programmable airbursting shells.

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You have a moderately sized military force and you have to deal with several hundred of these things. Here’s what you gotta remember about them:
>Nearly immortal, body can be damaged but the only thing that can kill them is fire
>sever a limb and it will keep coming after you
>burning them isn’t advised because the gasses inside will reanimate any corpses around them, including animals
>They do feel pain, from injury and their rotting bodies
>eating brains relieves said pain
>they’re very smart, able to fake calls for backup and set up ambushes
>speed depends on the state of decay, fresher corpses run like a human
>nuking them would kill them, but it would spread the trioxin gas further and make a bigger outbreak in the end
Well, /k/? You gotta get creative with this one.
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>>64758075
Have Trash get naked again
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>>64758075
>>64758133
>>64758130
>>64758135
It depends on what your rules are, they got easier to kill in the later movies.
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>>64758464
Oh you're the faggot that always throws a fit whenever anyone brings up zombies that aren't easier to kill than the average golden retriever.


>>64760595
Romero zombies are such a low level threat that even if everyone who dies become one it's not actually a serious threat to mankind. Bullets are cheap and people don't drop dead by surprise with no witnesses that often.
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>>64765105
Again, the threat of the Romero zombies was the paranoia they inspired in the human characters. Every single one of his movies has the humans wiping themselves out instead of being overwhelmed by the zombies.
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>>64758538
Crusaders got beaten by muslims 8/10 times and churches are being turned into mosques in Europe

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>spend 150 bucks
>now have a toy to take out into the desert
>tears apart old appliances like nothing
Don't even care if it's turkshit, my inner hillbilly is happy and the thing hasn't fucked up after 300 shells
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>>64764605
>no I need my mall ninjashotgun to blast trash in the desert
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>>64764609
>why yes I do bring out my benelli to garbage day
Wait I do, and I see no issue with buying a cheap gun for laffs
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>>64764585
>No sir, you can't have multiple guns for multiple uses
>my 1911 is all I need, I clean it every week
>no I dont take it to the range, ammo these days is just too dirty, gotta find me something that shoot clean
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>>64764609
Say what you will about mall ninjas, they're having more fun with life than people who are afraid of how they look to others.
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>>64763992
150 bucks wasted when the thing will blow up in your face

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Will it ultimately be a cult hit like the AR-15?
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>>64765142
>It's currently like $4.50 a round for training ammo
Has anybody necked down 308 brass and made light training loads with .277 boolits yet? The spear is over gassed to hell and back, I imagine even light loads will run fine for training.
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>>64765292
It's an ar18 with big boy clothes on.
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>>64765156
Whenever I shoot any of those guns I am reminded they just aren't as good as an AR-15. Scar, bren, they're neat but worse to actually shoot. Punchier, fragile stocks, limited aftermarket. Also you forgot the XCR which is probably the best notanAR.
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>>64764122
That kind of thinking is why they're still paying for losses from wars past to this day, losing hundreds of thousands of capable men, repeatedly, is a serious drain on your society in the long term.
And now Russia is doing it yet again.

That shit is a fucking debt for the country and economy you're trying to build and operate, and it's a debt on future military efforts. Zergrushing and losing legions of soldiers is not sustainable strategy.

>>64765156
Charging handle is fine IMO, helps enclose the action from dirt, and you're using the bolt release most of the time.
The only improvements I'd suggest is a handle with one of those foldout little paddles to give you a bit more purchase, along with some of that gas shield geometry for using cans.

Folding stock I don't think is a very big deal, and you should think twice about mortaring ANY gun, I'd only really do that in a life and death situation.
If you manage to get a bolt override, that's not great, and while you can mortar that clear sometimes, there's better methods which are about as fast, more reliable, and less abusive to the gun.

>barrels aren't easily changed
They're not quick change, but it's not a support weapon so I don't care.

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>>64765748
Instant death zones, there's pretty much nowhere that you can get shot and then not die if everyone refuses to treat you for being a stupid racist white fucking chud.

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AK General /akg/
Chocolate Chip Chinese Chestrig Edition
>Thread #2086

Old thread here >>64704982
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>>64765012
He is ready to defend Greenland.
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>>64760976
Sorry I didn't see this, probably around 40cpr depending on how much you buy. I'm trying to work out how I'd handle shipping to have the overall cost not be too much.
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>>64762760
>depreciation you endured
That's the thing I've put 2 mags through it and it's sat in a safe for 10 years. Take it out every now and then to mess around and never had rust issues. The thing is pristine and I don't like to rip people off so if I sell it I'm not gonna take too much profit. It's a real-AK wanters dream, plus 1k storage and handling costs ofc.
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>>64765343
NTA but I'm also interested in that Golden Tiger. If you don't end up selling it all, I'd buy anywhere between 200 and 2000 rounds of it at 41 CPR not counting shipping.
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Did /akg/ shoot this week?

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Writefag here, I’m looking for real “out there” firearms that are advanced looking but not too impractical for my sci-fi setting.
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>>64754501
P90 prototypes.
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>>64765002
The chamber would be right around the red line. There's 0 room for a bolt, let alone the fire control components. It's pure fantasy made by some noguns retard. They never take things like this into account.
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>>64766730
if you use a bolt like that of the TKB022 (?) (that bakelite ultra bullpup), you could make it work
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>>64766678
VBR is a treasure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuGXXLO6fxo
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take your pick

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how to beat mongols/horse nomads?

Fortifications?
focus on range?
heavy cav?
hold out until the current khan dies?
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>>64766779
>For a short time.
The Turks still control Turkey last I checked. Are they local to Anatolia? The Mongols controlled Iran for 300 years, and Iranians only took back control because a guy leading a warband of Turkish crypto-Zoroastrian Shia mystics put them in power to prevent giving his warband too much power.
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>>64765773
By living in a a humid and forested/jungle environment that limit their mobility and which also makes their composite bows fucking useless, due to moisture dissolving the glue holding their bows together. See Central Europe and Vietnam.
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>>64766801
The turks stopped being horse nomads very soon after they invaded anatolia.
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>>64766247
>what's with the tactical diaper?
Its for when he shits himself after seeing the horde of cavalry charging him.
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>>64766848
Ahhh right. Central Europe. Famously devoid of steppe nomads. Except of course being one of the first places the Indo-Europeans, the original steppe nomads and inventors of the composite bow, settled. And the Scythians, they were there for basically all of antiquity. Hell, the steppe nomad thing was so effective other people picked it up like the Goths and Vandals, came all the way from Sweden then as soon as they hit Central Europe they started picking up steppe nomad customs. Must have been a weather pattern shift at some point that drove all these people out, right? Oh, no, it was the Huns, a different group of steppe nomads. Then there were the Avars of course, and the Magyars oh wow they're still there, and the Cumans, and the Bolghars passed through at one point too.

So, no, I think that's pretty much completely wrong and you're a retard, and picked the place in Europe that has been a hotbed of steppe nomads since steppe nomads first became a thing. Literally the oldest bodies with evidence of deformities associated with constant horseback riding come from central Europe. You could not be more wrong if you tried.
>>64766869
No they didn't. Said crypto-Zoroastrian Shia mystics were nomadic bands of Turks from Eastern Anatolia. That was 500 years after they began invading Anatolia. They were still living as nomads.


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