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>WWII American vets
>get drafted
>go overseas for 3 years straight, no body armor, any shot is basically fatal
>fighting conventional warfare against organized armies backed by economies engaged in total war
>leave behind a wife and 6 kids, can only communicate via snail mail
>experiences almost 20x the average combat action as modern day vets
>war ends, immediately return to work with no special passes
>work until 75 years old, get $6 a month from VA for minor chronic onset shellshock
Vs
>enter military voluntarily
>get to pick your job, and get a big bonus
>maybe you might - possibly- get deployed overseas for 9 months
>a mortar lands 60km from FOB mall
>get back home
>ETS

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>>64686650
My WWII grandpa wasn't too fucked up and pretty chill overall but he was an alcoholic. By the time I was old enough to ask him about the war he couldn't speak because he wrecked his voice from liquour and cigarettes and would scribble notes on a pad. The worst things he recalled were coming across a Nazi concentration camp and his battalion getting rocked by German air attacks that resulted in deaths of people near him (he was in the anti-aircraft)
https://youtu.be/CAYHD5mAsfo
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>>64686650
>part of the reason why boomers were so fucked up is because their parents, returning WW2 vets, suffered from severe mental trauma
Nah. Op is correct on the memes. Modern vet disability checks are prob 95%+ scam, and if you are a vet and not scamming for extra 5k a month for rest of your life, you are just retarded. It is what it is.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xJ-CKieicrc

I literally know couple of guys from afghanistan who are the luckiest sob-s in the world, they just loved the action and shooting niggers and hanging out with dudes and making shitton of money.
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>>64686629
I feel like I have PTSD from watching so many ziggers getting drone'ed on a daily basis for 4 years straight. Like I legit get flashbacks when I'm at the grocery store looking at a piece of broccoli and sudden see tree zigger guy's inrails getting launched into that tree. I'll be watching a pleasant charismas fire in my living room then suddenly see the crew of a BTR stumbling out on fire, burning to death. I'll be cutting into a juicy thanksgiving turkey and suddenly see the guy with his chest blown open, heart still beating. Every time I see a mound of dirt all I can think about is that "Steady" drone footage of the trench filled with dead and dying mobniks. Every time i see a piece of sushi all I can think is meat cubes...
Where's my fucking disability package?
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>>64686629
Fuck where the other 9 World wars?
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>>64686747
Part of the hyperwar period

The M113 is immortal. It will keep getting upgraded and will serve on Mars.
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>>64686582
METAL BAWKSES
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>>64686668
jesus christ, 30mm canons!?
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>>64686582
Guys hear me out.
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The Gavin is uniquely built for survivability, and will make the colonization of Venus possible. All it needs is acid proof armor.
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>>64686582
I was a 113 driver, ask me anything, just kidding I CANT FUCKING HEAR YOU ANYMORE

What's the deal with the ISV? Does it make any sense? Is it retarded?
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>>64681141
Completely different maintenance needs and transport issues. OP is a big Jeep. M1117 is an armored car.
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>>64681264
No. Some signifcant percentage of parts for the ISV can be bought at NAPA.
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>>64681460
>>64681538
That's with maintenance for life of vehicle.
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>>64686365
No, if that were real (some fixed price contract for x years) it would be itemized with its own code and price. Even upgrade kits have their own items.
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>>64681140
>>64681263

It's a stripped down Chevy Colorado.

The US Army's Infantry Squad Vehicle (ISV) is heavily based on the diesel variant of the ZR2, with 90% of the vehicle coming from Commercial Off-The-Shelf (COTS) components.[47]

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/k/ is this your dream gun girl?
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>>64683437
Ok
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>>64683430
No it's IDW
I have an inordinate affinity for both the name Parker-Hale and petite catgirls
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>>64683638
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>>64683430
I may only have an hk93 but it's as close as I'm gonna get to mimichan
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>>64683430
Why are they so expensive? CMP, please...

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Why did US GI's love to smoke cigarettes so much?
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>>64685600
Yeah, but as >>64685233
Said. Ive been to Vietnam, and those gooks smoke more than 2 stroke
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>>64684923
Not just calming, it is a proven nootropic. The detriment comes from conventional methods of ingesting it. Pastuerized Swedish snus or nicotine salt patches have negligible cancer effect.
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>>64684593
There was this crazy guy who coached throwing at my highschool who claimed to have been in Vietnam that said hairspray had a smell the gooks could track.
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>>64684593
Counterpoint. Our Malaysian soldiers frequently tracked Communist insurgents by their reeking pee smell. You see, the Malaysian Communists were 99% Chinese, and chinks don't wash their penor after peeing. So they stain their pants with pee.
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>>64685233
>>64685609
There's a difference between people smoking in cities or officers doing it in their command post and troops out in the field. The North Vietnamese didn't hand out cigs in their rations.

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How Was Your Christmas Edition

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Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhT8aI9-X5I
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>>64686407
Fishy
>>64686415
Jambo
>>64686298
>>64686309
>>64686371
>kekgrok
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>psa will sell their own branded sabre suppressors (made by B&T)
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Charlie Charlie kirkie
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My titties be perkie :>
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>>64686714

Realistically speaking what are the mechs even contributing to this military force that you couldn't get by just swapping out the APCs for IFVs instead?
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>>64678541
>sea state 3
>Description: Slight
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>>64686215
wot if there was a big robot that blew them all up and looked way cooler doing so?
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>>64686215
You can do that with mechs involved too. It just needs balancing so mechs don't dominate every niche with conventional forces as nothing but a punching bag. But that would sell fewer toys.
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I could see the value in a small "utility mech" for specific conditions but the cost (assuming the tech existed) would be too much.
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Thoughts about Baofeng radios?
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>>64686345
>oh no they might spy on my baofeng radio via bluetooth and wifi
>transmits on open air with an analog radio
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>>64680976
They are shit radios. Still better than no radio, though.
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>>64686416
Funny. I'm more aware of all that than you'll ever know.
Every day for 4 years straight an adversary (or rather, the adversary) has been aggressively trying to find a weakness to exploit but they won't find any here. Not in cyberspace, not by trying to break into municipal water towers, not by cutting undersea cables, not by exploiting open borders, not by any of their hybrid measures. My small part is secure. And I can trust my countrymen and goverment to know how to do their part.
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>>64680976
Good starting vid for dudes trying to get into comms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hybS5YTDu4&t=1s
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>>64685211
midn blown. I didnt know there was such a thing as software defined radio. I tried ham but I'm a retard with it, if it's on a computer ill figure it out no matter how complex. is there power requirements if I go out into the boonies with a Toughbook and throw an antenna into a tree?

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Have tazers ever been put into a serious close defence application?

The Chinese internal security forces (chang-B-I) love tazers, totally mad about them. Tazers on maces, tazers on flash lights, tazers on poles, tazers on rifles.

What have you got for me
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>>64686588
Its all about a mix of pain compliance and muscle disruption, assuming you get good skin contact there's not a lot someone can do to fight off the incapacitation aspects but more than a few just aren't going to give a single fuck about pain and possibly make them even more cranky that you just zapped them and they ate shit hitting the dirt.
The fact you can put someone on their arse for about 3-5 seconds gives you plenty of options in defense for following it up with some kicks to the brain or benis that will discourage fucking around.
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>>64686603
But the difference here is whether the tazer is being employed as a less than lethal offensive weapon, a control/torture device, or for personal defence.

There's a recognised FC issue with tazers which is why they havnt been effective in police or custodial roles. It's hard to know when they are/aren't needed and they can't be deployed or withdrawn fast enough if the situation changes.

And in many cases, deploying a tazer in one capacity, the same weapon doesn't serve a second capacity. So for example you cannot tazer someone to make them comply, and tazer someone who's a threat to you, at the same time, with the same tazer. The person you tazed would just punch you in the face, why wouldn't they if you're already tazing them?

And the issue is preventing a tazer being stolen, smuggled, or employed offensively. To stop one vip tazing another, which you can totally see happening.

So for example I see a strong case to provide custodial staff with a shock glove, simply on a weapon retention basis. It might allow a custodial officer to drag an unconscious perpetrator out of a cell by their leg, so that wouldn't require a six man open on that cell.

Or you might give a boxer a tazer jacket, which you could operate but they couldn't, in case a fan assaulted them in transit. For legal reasons, it would then be the guard guilty of assault, not the VIP.

Or you might need to protect a security guard from being assaulted by a vip, where duress would prevent a guard defending themselves, but failing to do so would compromise the security of the whole detail. If Katy perry tried to strangle her limo driver.
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One way you might do this is to seperate filaments with a gel barrier, so that anything that crushed that area would tend to get shocked. That could offer significant protection from hostage taking and duress resulting from chokes, leg locks, arm locks, finger submissions etc. It might be necessary to embed barbs in the inner filament within the gel.

Might sound stupid but I can see a real value in many-one engagements where you might have multiple juvenile offenders/a boy band all jump one security guard.
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Oklahoma county gaol apparently trialed using bridging style gloves, so is hardly an idea without precedence.

But I'd actually try gel pads for contact areas like the thigh, because it would function both as padding, protection from leg locks, and potentially negatively wire the system so it just self activated. Very hard to hit yourself in the outer thigh.
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>>64686651
You don't really want the high powered discharge device attached to you
>Built to the budget and corners cut making it less reliable
>Built to the budget making it reliable but less accessible
>if there's a malfunction in the shock surface, you're now potentially dancing with the electropixies
>high power batteries catch fire, now you're on fire
So while there is a case for retention, there's plenty for being able to drop the device and move to a plan-b when it comes to defense, also with high voltage devices its just not best practice to be in contact with the probes. You want that handle well away from any arc-length that might happen normally and you sure as hell want it if you're wet, its raining or your soaked in crackhead piss.

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Discuss cheap solutions to the drone problem.

Not welcome:
>dronefags
>laser fags
>missile fags
>unknown technology fags
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>>64684783
You are at least 10 years behind the times as to the power of SBCs.

https://www.luckfox.com/Mini-PC
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>>64682042
>intentional destruction of local culture, ban on ownership of weapons for locals entirely, etc.
This is how you lose the war extra fast.
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>>64684783
>The best use for AI besides what I already mentioned in my post is for things like terrain recognition for guidance and terminal guidance against something like a jet.
The US has been fielding this since the 80s-90s.
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>>64681585
Hamster balls for soldiers.
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>>64684783
>what is SKEET
>since 1992

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>Ukraine lost 87% of its Abrams tanks in under two years. Australia's 49 replacement tanks arrive as the 68-ton breakthrough weapon has been forced into a different role
>It is now used not as a spearpoint but a "shielded hammer" — only surviving in a symphony of sensors, jammers, and screens.
Tanks are now truly obsolete:
https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/12/19/australia-completes-delivery-of-49-abrams-tanks-now-they-must-survive-the-drones/
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>>64657583
Tanks don't have be invincible but they have to ENDURE
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>>64657570
I am a complete moron but...
What's stopping the Ukies from doing a mad dash thunder run with like half of their new tanks to punch a quick hole into the Zigger lines, the ones that have stalled out? You know you're going to lose the tanks anyway to drone spam, so:
Step 1: Take half of your tanks just outside of drone striking range near the hottest part of the current border
Step 2: Find somewhere that the Russian's aren't expecting you to hit and silently amass the other half of your new armor there
Step 3: Bum rush across in a massed assault at this calmer less focused part of the front. These areas won't have drones already fired up ready to go, you can punch a big hole in their defenses and then try to rush in and flood the gap.
Worst case scenario, you lose all the tanks and men you sent through the giant hole you punched while somehow the ziggers don't pull their men and drones from other parts of the front, but you get the massive PR win showing that yes, you can go on offensive with decent support.
Likely scenario, you cause a large yet significant localized collapse of the Russian front and deal a serious blow to their morale. As long as you don't spread support lines too thin, you've effectively swung momentum in your favor. Still probably lose the tanks one the Ziggers refocus and throw a bunch of drones at you but you could get hours or even a good day of your new heavy armor being unmolested, and aside from Drones the Ziggers don't have anything to hold back your massed armor until the drones are ready (I doubt they are doing multi-layered minefields across the *entire* border).
Best case scenario, as the Ziggers refocus to put their forces on the new hole you kicked in the front, and as they are taking their men and drones away from the current part of the front that it's been the hottest at, you get to charge through and get to kick the Ziggers back out of the few hundred yards they've gained in the last several months.
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>>64658310
>how many tanks did russia lose in those two years?
8.12.2025
Tanks — 11469 (+5)
Armored fighting vehicle — 23831 (+8)
Artillery systems — 35557 (+15)
MLRS — 1581 (+2)
Anti-aircraft warfare — 1264
Planes — 434
Helicopters — 347
UAV — 96227 (+688)
Cruise missiles — 4136 (+29)
Ships (boats) — 28
Submarines — 2
Cars and cisterns — 71778 (+166)

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>>64682208
Probably because it would limit gun depression increasing exposure to ATGMs and MBTs.
Drones aren't the only threat, just the only threat that records every kill.
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>>64679297
Yes.

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>>64684719
(meant for >>64684698)
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>>64684719
>>64684720
Forgot about that song.
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>>64684722
And now you have remembered.
Nature is healing.
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>>64678234
What a chuuni name. Bongs have a talent for naming stuff. If it was the Yanks, it would be something like M1A2-MPASHMBBQ-lgbt-XER-ILUVISRAEL.

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Thoughts about Anduril? Do their weapons work or are they just grifters?

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What are the strategic implications of Russia deploying (literal) cavalry wave attacks against Ukrainian positions and drones in the last month of 2025? Has the eyebrow been raised?
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>>64683618
>Has the eyebrow been raised?
No, eyebrows and off and gloves have been raised. Also, ass is still in the ass.
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>>64683734
Do Russians forget Ukraine gets fucking cold too?
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>>64683744
Looks like total artillery death is advancing at a steady pace. How many guns can the Russians still field at this point?
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>>64686414
>Russia’s shift toward infiltrating very small assault elements, often 2 men at a time, has been one of the few adaptations that’s actually worked
What is the definition of "worked" here? The Russian army isn't advancing in any meaningful way. They're stuck at the same bite-and-hold tactics that result in heavy losses.

>Dispersion limits losses
Russian losses are on the up, not down.

>This is slowly translating to results on the ground without the massive losses we previously saw from the Russians.
What are these results?

> Horses aren’t a sign of ingenuity, they’re a sign of constraint. They’re cheap, expendable, and don’t require fuel or logistics. That’s the point.
Horses are not cheap, expendable or without logistics and they require 'fuel' (grain).

> I didn’t role-play Baghdad Bob for Ukraine.
You are for the Russians. You're trying to justify this piss poor performance and the use of horses as a good thing, somehow.
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>>64686459
Do you think horses are common farm animals? Do you think they grow like wheat? They need years of investment, training and care. They're less expendable than vehicles since those can be built.

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Speech: http://kcna.kp/en/article/q/5ceed4f1eb2058145a9bbbc60fcf07dd.kcmsf

tl;rd: Basically they want a nuclear sub fleet and are building a Blue Water navy, new surface ships explicitly referred to as 'Attack Destroyers'

1/4: It is large.
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>>64686638
>They also do siestas, even in the cities
That's pretty common across North Asia.
China does it too.
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>>64686684
Mostly just standard Korean food, lots of soup. A few weird things like alarming amounts of pickled fish and more potatoes than you would expect, they have been going nuts with suds for a while. Things that are niche meats (rabbit for example) are common place and you see roasted fruit used for things like main courses.

They drink more beer than most Asians and it is good enough to export.
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>>64686674
>I'm not an expert, but I doubt the divides are really all
See >>64682275
I don't know whether it would inspire partisans but the division isn't an accident.
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>>64679603
Didn't they and Assad get a ton of help from the Norks?
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>>64686638
>>64686674
>hurr durr poor worst Korea and their poor time management and no siesta like best Korea
>hurr durr I'm not a tranny nafotard nazi. Also, stop insulting Russia!!!
You niggers are actual board lolcows.

Watching you two back and forth is like watching zoo animals. Please continue.


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