All things precision shooting, no experience necessary. Discuss rifles, barrels, action, glass, loads, groups, competitions, and anything else related to the pursuit of tighter groups and longer shots.
The new stuff makes precision shoot too easy. Time to go back to old school tech for a challenge.
>>64738379They go for like $1300 new these days. t. looking for one.
>>64745576Still too easy, open sights or bust
>>64745576The modern day sniper podcast has a really interesting series they’re doing right now about basically the notorious riflemen from early America. Kinda makes me want to get a nice muzzle loader
>>64745632You should. They're wicked cool
The dragon is the size of the ones in GOT, use GOT as the point of reference for most everything to be honest. If you want to be a furry abut this you can do a version where the dragon(s) are smart cookies that can talk and junk.
>>64740980>Historical armor constantly gained weight the more firearms got introducedthis is true, see 16th century German plate armour suits>steel breastplate with a thickness around 2-3mm that is proof against arrows at point blank rangearrows could still cut through that thickness of armour, if the plate was flatwhat the last plate armour suit designers of history grasped empirically but didn't quite understand was that the curved bulbous shapes in which they made their armour meant that both arrows and bullets went through a greater thickness of armour, for the same reason that tanks have sloped armour. they thought that the projectiles were skipping off the curvesultimately however,>muskets do deliver 10-20 times the force then the best crossbownomuskets can't penetrate 10mm let alone 20mm of steel plate>>64744703>Arrows achieve literally nothing against full grown dragons, not even scratching them. Their hides would be several inches thickanon, please bear in mind you're talking about a fictional animalhow is anyone supposed to know this?Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>64745136For a real world comparison crocodiles' hides eventually become thick enough arrows can't do squat against anything short of a lucky shot to the eye. Dragons having similarly tough skin to support their weight seems hardly unreasonable.
>>64745156preciselyyet nobody is saying that crocodile hide is bulletproof or that it is several inches thickit is an unwarranted leap of logic to assume so for dragons as much as it is for crocodiles
>>64745136> 2-3mm>arrows could still cut through that thickness of armour, if the plate was flatIm not so sure about that, even lower quality steel at that thickness should be pretty hard to pierce, in the arrow vs armor test 3 where they shoot at a brigadine using 1.2mm mild steel plates with one side being hardened. The arrows they are using have bladed hard steel tips and they dont show that impressive performance. Only two arrows showed undeniable killing power, one launched at 40 meters hitting the neck plate that was about 1.5mm thick and the other at 20 meters hitting the eye slit ignoring the helmet armor. Every other arrow did not have the same clear killing power when striking the brigandine or arm protectionhttps://youtu.be/SFFgcTzCvMo?t=446They also did test against just flat 1.5mm mild steel plate and the penetration depth was not as dramatic as the textile or chainmail armorhttps://youtu.be/UBbVWqA45fI?t=962>arrow vs 1.5mm mild steel penetration depth 7cm-2.3cm>arrow vs chainmail penetration depth 25-24cm>arrow vs fabric armor penetration depth 25-17.5Pic related from ARROWS vs ARMOUR 2 - Best metal for armour video all the test plates are 1.5mm thickBut back to dragons.https://youtu.be/xXfEsEYeTKc?t=870>Season 5 of games of thrones dragons have grown quite alot and are large enough to be ridden but are still vulnerable to hand thrown spearsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>64745408the brigandine they test in this latest video was designed in an era when everyone feared the longbow, and therefore likely with stopping arrows in mind. it's no surprise to me at all that it resisted most hits.Tod's AvA 2 video showed fairly consistent and human-wounding penetration of 1mm arm plates too>They also did test against just flat 1.5mm mild steel plate and the penetration depth was not as dramaticalright, so call it 1.5mm then>White walkers carrying random melee weaponsthe White Walkers also 1-shot a dragon with a single magic missile, the obvious implication is that they possess powerful specific anti-dragon weapons
Are living suicide bombs a viable strategy in an open war? I thought that suicide bombing was only good for terrorism at checkpoints/markets but not for a frontal assault to a fortified enemy position.Banzai charges barely worked...
>>64745616Been here since the Squid era, bud.
>>64745617>December 2018Now imagine what it looks like today.
>>64745622>imaginewe're witnessing it
>>64745621No one would ever refer to that time as "squid era", unless you love that baby faced twink
>>64745634uh huh
>3D Printed GunsWhat are the best filaments you guys are using for frames and gun parts? Is it still PLA + or are the different carbon/glass infused filaments better?What are you guys printing?
>>64742446>something you could throw at a wall and it would just come apart like a sugar cookieDepends on what you use, how it's designed, and how it hits. For this item, for example, I probably want to switch to something more impact resistant because there's a non zero chance the user (or his cat) would swipe it off a nightstand onto the floor and break it like this.
>>64744753PA (nylon) is an engineering plastic. And PETG is worse than worthless, it doesn't do anything that PLA+ can't do better except for marginally more heat resistance, but most applications that require heat resistance require more than the extra ~10C you can get from PETG.
>>64744529>anime tiddies in a police evidence photo
>>64742446>I always appreciate that 3d printed weapons look very cyberpunkyThey are cyberpunk through-and-through. I love that about them.
>>64745609>And PETG is worse than worthlessI would mostly agree, but there are a few narrow cases where it's better than pla in flexing. For printed magazine springs, snap catches and the like it does last longer. It took a lot of experience to find a fraction of the supposed advantage in resilience it was claimed to have by the non gun printing community though.
>>64744728Definitely not the Raptorhttps://youtu.be/fgOK1PtyaaQ?si=YhubM1mCh97B4cU4
>>64744777
*Hangs up*
>goes to war once>gets mogged288 million euros monsieurno refunds
>>64745503You forgot a french basedjack tearing his hair off in the background
Why is French firearm design so strange?
>>64744930Same with Sweden and Switzerland.
>>64744930lack of money. they had to rebuild the entire Metropole, don't forgetFrance was so poor after WW2 that they lost Indochina aka Vietnam basically because they had no money to buy automatic weapons, whereas the USSR didFrench infantry platoons were straight up outgunned by their Vietnamese counterparts
>>64743207>the American people are ready to exterminate and sacrifice potential social security to do itHave you forgotten about the pied-noirs and the war in Algeria lmao. The French are definitely ready to sacrifice their social security for war IF THE COULD. Now a days, Muhammed needs to pay rent, feed his 10 children (extra chommage) and pay hookers so he would prefer his country (France) not bomb his cousins. That's why the France of today wont sacrifice it's "social security" >nobody thinks about the defeat of France or the very real resistance as a humiliationWe are seeing levels of cope that theoretically shouldn't be possible here
>>64745251No, I assure you that Mohamed is extremely stupid, he only revolts over random events like a football team winning or losing, or a drug dealer getting killed, when the state wants to seriously harm him he does nothing because he's too slow to realize it, this is probably mostly due to inbreeding. As for Algeria we could have razed Algiers with constant bombing and no one on the international stage would have done anything, but unfortunately de Gaulle clearly had a misplaced pity for the Algerians
>>64742988>A 3 round burst capable rifle that has a mag count not divisible by three. 3 round burst was one of the things imposed late in the design, 25 rounds was to keep a straight mag>The adjustment of the sights is overly complex and front hand guard must be removed to adjust the front site post; that is to say the whole top half of the firearm.you have 1 pin to pull retard, you only have to do it once, retard>The magazines are shit and the lips bend if you tap the magazine into place to hard. This is because the FAMAS magazine where originally intended to be discarded after one use: sort of like a stripper clip. Except, the armies budget being so small, they still use the same mags originally made in the 1980's to this day.not after one use but they were supposed to be consumable, just like HK steel mags the french army uses now, which still arent considered consumable, yeah famas mags get fucked up after being maltreated for 3 years like any other steel mags you retard>The mechanism for changing the gun from right handed to left handed shooter also fucking sucksyou do it once retard>cleaning at night a shit show.you dont have to take out the whole thing to do a field clean just the bold suffices you fucking retard >It jams, it's inaccuratemore accurate than the HK, only reason it'd jam is if your mag is beat upi got make 10k shots on the famas it never jammed even with blanks and not properly maintained Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Isn't strange the USAF doesn't have a F-15 with the same pods and capability as the EA-18?Wtf is this whole non cooperation between the US military branches?
>>64744852Many seething brownoids have copy/pasted this same post. Or probably just you, actually.>>64744877It does have the FB-22, and the YF-23 is so common it may as well just be the F-23. They're doing the best they cano.
>>64744907>They're doing the best they cano.Fair dinkum
>>64744706The ADF has been running a strategy of technological superiority for a good while now. The infantry grunts are outfitted like special forces, the air force got kitted with F-35s as soon as physically possible, they're spearheading the creation of combat UAVs, they developed the E-7 Wedgetail to be straight up superior to any other AWACS in the world... I guess it's something about compensating for a low population while still having plenty of money to throw around.
>>64745186Yeah, they're well funded but population-wise Australia just isn't very big for the region. So trying to use money to make up for manpower makes a lot of sense.The big thing that got the Japanese frigate over the line not too long ago over the German one was the much lower manpower requirements, just on that topic.
>>64740913>>64740919>EA-37>you will never get to ride in the super secret private jetwhy even live
I can’t believe it took a 30 minute video to say what we already knew, which is that 10mm Auto is the superior automatic handgun cartridge, and that only after having to water it and then .40 S&W down for the women, manlets, and fags in the FBI did they just settle on 9mm because there was no difference at that point. Amazing.>But muh fire rate!Literally doesn’t matter in a combat scenario, doubly so if your shots don’t actually land. Paul Harrell already established this in his 1986 Miami Dade shootout analysis. Lift weights and carry 10mm, anons.https://youtu.be/ZybcWWu4ddk?si=KptwdszD7hCNFTQE
>>64745471>fuck my sister.>post lockNo thanks.
>>64745549Most based outcome possible. Could you imagine the trauma on all involved from that? Would definitely scare people into complying.
>>64745552>Muh locke!!!Seething because your attempt at dick measuring didn’t win.
>>64745540>you don’t know what you’re talking aboutProjection, learn the difference between cover, concealment and light barriers>weak and fallibleYou will nuetralise the target after only a single round of 9x19, this has been documented repeatedly>larger and more rapid expansion of temporary wound channelsThat's great for larger game but returns eventually diminish, anon>Split times are completely meaningless if rounds do not impactBecoming a better shooter requires trigger time and 9x19 affords more ammunition than 10x25 because it's less expensive across the board>lern 2 spelDo you remember how we used to spell "axe"? Two generations have already forgotten, I'm just ahead of the curve
>>64745600>learn the difference between cover, concealment and light barriersI do. Properly loaded 10mm turns the first two into the latter. I’m only being slightly facetious.>You will *neutralize the target after only a single round of 9x19, this has been documented repeatedlyOnly if you land a hit on the central nervous system, or on a large-enough blood-carrying organ or venous tissue with enough destruction so as to cause rapid bleeding and seemingly immediate incapacitation. A more powerful (meaning better penetrating and larger-expanding, energy is useless) round more reliably accomplishes all of these, so why wouldn’t you carry it? The only reason not to is if you’re too weak and small to, in which case, that’s fine, you can have your lol9mm, but you shouldn’t be in law enforcement.>That's great for larger game but returns eventually diminish, anonYou’re basically just saying “nuh-uh” because you don’t have an actual rebuttal. If a theoretical impossible handgun cartridge capable of having the same penetration and tissue disruption as .460 Weatherby Magnum without all of the weight, recoil, or size existed, people would carry it. “Overkill” is a silly Jewish word.>Becoming a better shooter requires trigger time and 9x19 affords more ammunition than 10x25 because it's less expensive across the boardStop being poor. Learn to reload. I have more trigger time than you and every cop in the world.>Do you remember how we used to spell "axe"? Two generations have already forgotten, I'm just ahead of the curveYour use of the letter “s” in words where there ought to be a “z” has me concerned that you are, in fact, a European, in which case your arguments are all immediately null and void and I chastise you for wasting my time.I also love your spam of body cam footage of perfectly optimal scenarios for lol9mm and the pathetic training of LEOs to be effective while ignoring ones where it hasn’t.
what's the point in hiring mercs who aren't at all familiar with your language, culture, or geography/climate?
>>64745607They got you guys working sundays now?
>>64745607Remember OP, it's russians we're talking about
>>64745619They look like Africans, not Russians. Am I wrong?
>>64745607Name their choir
>>64745607>zigger said Russia is fighting against entire Nato. >turn out its Ukraine alone fighting against entire Global South.
Scopes and reddots are for boomers with glaucoma.
>>64745223because he thinks the more nice things he abstains from, the stronger he is.
it's always HK diopter niggers that are this particular breed of contrarian
>>64745223>Why do you think so?Because he's infected with contrarian faggotry, underage, and/or has no place to shoot ELR and is jelly as fuck about it. NOT because of the subject: irons are indeed fun, just as muzzle loaders or whatever are a lot of fun. Lots of us just enjoy the pure sport of shooting and adding in challenge, leaning more on yourself vs the tool can be a good time.But if rather then going>"hey this thing you might not have tried is really fun and should be part of your mix"someone goes OP's route with>"every innovation after XYZ arbitrary cutoff that I just learned about sucks and I'm superior to them"they're insecure fags.
>SIGger>Most dogshit H&K irons possible>Shitty opinionlike flies to shit
>>64745592This is why I don't eat ice cream and I am strong like bull.
Think we'll ever get full body armor?
>>64717812I think the biggest problem of full body armour is that it makes you look like a tryhard thirdie and people will laugh at you saying "it doesn't work!!" (which is probably true)
>>64717847Tanegashima use cheek for contact and not shoulder because of that exact issue.The solution is an electrical magnet on the stock and armour that the soilder can activate when the stock is in position using a button on the gun.The problem is not that you can't rest the stock of a gun on your armour, you can as long as it's short. The issue is that it slides off the plate when you make contact with your cheek and get down on the rifle. If it's stuck to your shoulder with a strong magnet, it should be sturdier than usual along as the armour is well fitted.
>>64717812roger.
nah, future is drone warfare, everyone is just flying drones and theres gonna be flyers and catchers with extended lacrosse bats trying to catch drones
>>64744383>Tanegashima use cheek for contact and not shoulder because of that exact issue.wrong on several counts. for 1, helmets were not the issue that necessitated a cheek weld nor is a cuirass, its largely the massive pauldrons (which modern armor does not have) that get in the way of a traditional stock. More relevant though is 2, Japanese muskets simply had not progressed at all from the original Portuguese designs they were copying, as such they were stuck with an obsolete design. At the time that was the only way the japs knew to sight a rifle, basically by holding it right under your eye. and for 3, "cheek" arquebus /muskets were essentially a civilian hunting design by the 17th century, only suitable for lightweight and light recoiling guns. A western musket intended for battlefield combat are much heavier (both in general weight and in caliber). You simply cannot adequately shoot a full power war musket with a cheek weld. it'd be like taking the stock off an M14 and trying to hold it to your cheek.For 4 what the fuck are you talking about magnets for. Modern armor isn't magnetic and I doubt super duper space armor in the future would be either. If you did have excessively bulky armor (say like the OG interceptor body armor) that did actually cover your shoulder pocket, then you can simply add an angled buttstock w/ a rubber pad to your gun.
It's that time of year /K/ommandos! Were we reminisce the years that have past and look forward to the new one that is now unfolding! And that includes thinking up of goals for ourselves to achieve this year! You have been thinking of how to become a better /K/ommando right anon?Anyway, I haven't seen one of these threads in a few years, so lets get one going. How do you rank against your fellow /k/omrades?Bonus points if you can add stories about your achievements. Also maybe its time to update the board? Add a few more,
>>64745359Not gonna put up your own?
>>64745359Rusty Shackleford was my idea when this was being created years ago.I think the the whole thing is kinda cringe now, though.
/k/rautland reporting in
Does he deserve his shit reputation for the Battles of the Isonzo? After all what else could he realistically have done? He had a very narrow mountainous front with no room for any sweeping manoeuvres or flanking. And he won most of the battles.
Genuinely terrible nepo baby that was well aware aware of the limits of the italian army yet pressed forward with retard outdated tactics and almost lost the warHis replacement was everything that he wasn't: charismatic, caring of its soldier, open to suggestions by low ranking soldiers and open to change of tactics, and so in the span of one year he rebuilt an army from scratch and won the war
>>64741509>ArmandoJust FIY Armando is the first name, like Luigi in Luigi Cadorna. Diaz is the last name.
>Half of the entire Italian war death total – some 300,000 of 600,000 – were suffered along the Soča River.
>>64741344I think I'd have tried something different after the third time, at the very least.
>>64745509>SočaIsonzo
Panic bought a bullpup while in a weapon ban state. No outdoor public ranges I know of, and gun clubs around aren't looking at taking in new members. Still would go through with it again.
>>64744134>>64744145More preorders when they still haven’t shipped the $12k guns yet
Are NATO AUGs acceptable now that they have a bolt release?
>>64744719They're always based but why not just get an RDB which is way more modernized?
>>64742399>Oh man i really want one but saving up for like half a year for a rifle just hurts to think aboutHeh, for me I planned/saved up for like 6 years and yeah the price stung. It was a total indulgence thing, my dream gun purchase and I absolutely will not claim the value is great unless you really really care about the niche features it offers. There are cheaper (though still pricey) bolt bullpups even if you just want something normal and not multi-cal super fast swap. And while it does do <0.5moa as advertised, you can easily match its performance with regular patterns for a fraction of the cost. Still love the thing though.>and i have so many other things im going to have to worry about like i know i only have a year at best with this car.Oof, I hear that. I recently had to replace my 2000s era Nissan Frontier and holy fuck the prices are brutal now even used. And for new there honestly wasn't even anything I was attracted to, like shit everything seemed full of outright anti-feature horseshit like subscriptions or always-on spyware. God damn it.>Maybe if there's a really good sale...The best sales I've ever seen from DT direct are when they've occasionally sold off store demo units, sometimes full guns sometimes barrel assemblies or receivers only but those are still expensive. Store units tend to be barely used and can go 40-50% off. For brand new, once in awhile (black friday this year) they've had 25% off. Used if you get lucky of course but the thing is they're really good and probably anyone who buys one really wants it, and DT isn't constantly fucking with them either. So unlike the MDR there aren't people constantly firesaling them to get rid of 'em. And since they're manuals even someone moving to an unfree shit state will probably be able to hang onto it. But if one did come up for cheap I wouldn't hesitate even if the barrel is fried, that's like 40 second to swap (literally). I bought mine as parts not a unit.
There’s been a noticeable lack of innovation in tactical gear for over a decade now. A Delta operator in 2026 looks nearly indistinguishable from one in 2016. Why are we in this gear plateau? Have we reached the maximum potential for development?
>>64745291>Nylon!>If you want to burn!
>completely ignoring the IVAS system because it ruins your point.
>>64745515Hot. Imaging looking at yourself wearing them in your picatiny mounted cosmetic mirror.https://armoredoptics.com/products/hindsightHot.
>>64745539Just make some out of paper, velcro, and duct tape who's paying $20 for some ears?
>shock and awe
