Instead of pepper spray why not just an acid mist that dissolves the eyes? Or even like mustard gas or somethin thatll fuck someone up in a second>ummmmm sweatie the geneva conventionHague convention banned hollow points meanwhile police use them on citizens, who gives a shit?
>>64637174Splashback from sprays is extremely common.
>>64637174Instead of an acid mist why not use a bullet?
>>64637174Think the point of pepper spray and that kind of shit is to not cause permanent damage, anon. If it's permanent damage you want, may i recommend: bullet
The shills say you'll definitely buy one.
>>64636696Top kek.
>>64632202Before 4chan was neutered, it was influential. Check the amount of traffic 4chan gets, and combine it with it's notorious nature (which it no longer is). Mostly everyone here was a gun owning white male with anti-government sentiment. A mixture between deviant degenerates (furries, feet fags, hentai gooners, etc) and ultra conservatives that barely co-existed but had unifying anti-gov sentiment, and cared about the second ammendment above all else. Where the hate term fudd was popularized.All of 4chan was fair game for whatever you wanted to say unless it was an extremely obvious troll thread. And even then, the jannies MIGHT have taken it down. Not always guaranteed. Much more lenient. Now you mention something about the men's with dresses suicide demographic, or mention their pet n-words, even within context (nig or troon shoots up a place), and it's an insta 3 day ban.This all started when they colluded to ban all political discussion, even the politics regarding the preservation of weapon ownernship was effectively banned off a DAMN WEAPONS BOARD FFS. Then came up the military enlistment generals using pics of sheboons trying to appeal to zoomers plus the ukraine and russian shills and this place turned to a shithole that can never be fixed
>>64629913release it in .30 supercarry and I might buy one.
>>64637315>This all started when they colluded to ban all political discussionBrigading leftists have free reign on 4chan with the mods blessing. Hell, they probably coordinate it with them on discord.
>>64629913Looks nice, I'll buy one when one of my Glocks breaks. I said the same thing about Gen 4 and Gen 5 though, hasn't happened yet.>>64630074>i don't get why the dust cover was shortenedBecause it's the exact same frame as the 19X or whatever they're calling it now.The rest is stuff people like from third party Gen 3 pattern guns. Put it up next to say a Poly80 frame, it has all that stuff.>>64630139Get a 24 instead if they're making them, with aftermarket 9x19 and 357 SIG barrels. Consolidate all your silliness into one gun.
what the fuck
>>64615421Hyuuga and Ise are 100 times sexier.
>>64629146>At 03:16, West Virginia's radar picked up the surviving ships of Nishimura's force at a range of 42,000 yd (24 mi; 21 nmi; 38 km). West Virginia tracked them as they approached in the pitch black night. At 03:53, she fired the eight 16 in (406 mm) guns of her main battery at a range of 22,800 yd (13.0 mi; 11.3 nmi; 20.8 km), striking Yamashiro with her first salvo. She went on to fire a total of 93 shells. At 03:55, California and Tennessee joined in, firing 63 and 69 shells, respectively, from their 14 in (356 mm) guns.Dead of night first-salvo hit at 13 miles. No visual correction or aircrsft spotting. More impressive shot than what Warspite and Scharnhorst did
>>64617857>>64617859>>64617860Is this the IJN space program?
>>64635755kek
Anime girls with boat ,airplane or tank shit tacked on is the gayest shit and ruins and derails any potentially good naval thread
>duuude gun laws are pointless because everyone with 4k worth of tools and 2 weeks of free-time can build his very own SMG (that has an effective range of 10 yards)ok but where are you going to get the ammo? sure, smuggling 10 rounds across the border is easier than smuggling a weapon but for a proper "protect the rights of the people"-situation you need hundreds if not thousands of rounds per gunseems like it would make more sense to build DIY long range rifles instead of SMGs / Pistols so you can get the most out of each roundyes, you can make your own ammo with blanks and slugs but that stuff can be banned too and then its back to square 1
>>64636402or you could detonate a gas mix with a spark and never have to worry about casings, priners, chambering, none of that shit
>>64636204>Conversations like the thread right here are the life blood of this "movement". We are discussing possibilities here and approaches. Somebody has a dilemma, the community presents options for that dilemma. There is no centralized structure, there's no specific place where these discussions take place, nobody's telling anyone to do anything.I'm happy you're a /k/ommando bro
>>64630148NTA. But that’s not the point. The point is that the right is more interested in guns as neat toys, collecting them as funkopops, larping, etc. While the left is interested in violence. I wonder who Darwin favors.
>>64630041they are pointless but that's not why
>>64637264One of the more disturbing redpills is that the freaks will always win simply because they have nothing better to do. It's like how trannies dominate videogame speedrunning: anyone could spend ten thousand hours mastering a twenty year old videogame but only the biggest autists would actually want to.
Could plastic garbage from the ocean be used for 3D printers for printing guns like FGC-9?
Crazy chinkoid crashout
>>64636288Checked. Apparently all Chinese and SEA monkey pollution is due to evil American and Japanese corporations voltroning up to make them set their jungles on fire, because...reasons I guess? Also this insectiod seems to think I'm Japanese and would be triggered by him posting wood blocks of BDC. And Jacob Vouza is based, a knight, and an honorary USMC Sergeant Major, so I'm not sure why I'm supposed to be mad at him either. At any point the pinoys could stop wrecking their environment for easy cash, exterminate their uppity militias, and apply themselves, but they don't. Because its easier to collect a check than having a nationwide Come-to-Jesus talk. Fuck me for expecting some agency out of the greatest hospitality workers on God's green earth.What's wild about this crashout is that it was triggered by pointing out that the nips fucked up their environment, suffered badly for it, and managed to not only claw back that damage through policy changes, but continued to grow and develop their economy despite not being allowed to freely dump F-schedule wastes into the watershed anymore. The ideas that people refused to put up with environmental damage for industry, and could force a change that was good for everyone involved is deeply antithetical to the Chinese mind. It's like expecting an asiatic or african to understand why corruption is bad and is to be avoided where possible: it's inefficient for everyone including the guy getting a bribe. It incinerates wealth. But the idea of not getting to be the guy who gets the bribes one day is too hard to accept.
>>64624726not all plastics are recyclable and the quality of random trash plastics is going to be poorwe should 3d print clothes for third worlders
>>64636150Not anymore. Western nations stopped this once the media caught wind. It's actually Flips doing the dumping now because they get everything wrapped in plastic from China and they don't care about the environment. The people there don't give a fuck and just throws shit anywhere. No joke, there was a Philippine exchange student in my uni class back in the day. This guy would just toss any wrapping or trash on the ground even if there was a trashcan close by. When he got called out on it he said they just do that back home and that the city pays people to clean up. Dude was a chain smoking asshole who eventually got deported for overstaying his student visa.
chinkshill can you dump your Taiwan folder?I want to poke fun of a Dutch co worker about them getting chinked
We're still using the A-10 in 2070?
>>64627811>t-the US will balk-The US would be the LAST country to fracture.
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>>64627821Then we shall fight in the shade
>>64628598>>64628608>20kmThe Tarantula is already cheated enough despite being hard to aim. At 20km you are making a mockery of most defense system.If it's realistic maybe, but I'm not imagining that without guided-shells.
>>64627822Don't need China, the Far Left and Far Right will tear the country apart themselves.
Navy Secretary John Phelan just recently revealed the most recent proposal to replace the Constellation class frigates. It's basically a modified version of the Coast Guard's Legend class cutter carrying 16 VLS cells.https://breakingdefense.com/2025/12/navy-wants-new-frigate-in-2028-says-services-acquisition-head/https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5OJZ8eB_mPA&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD
>>64634940not exactly small either. it's a significant through deck penetration.
>>64637286nowhere near enough8 cells for 32 ESSM is standard self-defence fit8 cells for nu-VL-ASROC is standard ASW fitthat's the minimum for any ASW warshipto counter the antiship ballistic missile threat, a further 8 self-defence SM-3/6s is bare minimum near-future-proofing (actually present-proofing)if you want to contribute meaningfully to task force air defence, that's at least 8 to 16 more cells for Standards16 cells is minimum self-defence today24 cells is minimum ABM self-defence32-40 cells is for local air defence
>>64633683US military procurement was gutted during the Peace Dividends. Lots of people with decades of experience and generations of institutional knowledge passed down to them were RiF'd all at once, leaving not enough people left who knew how to manage a procurement program.This has never been properly corrected.
>>64637294Yes, the bare minimum defensive VLS fit is 4x8 (32) cells. 8 for VL-ASW, 16 for long-range anti-air/anti-SRBM, and 8 (quad-packed, so 32 effectors) for medium-range SAM. To reduce MRSAM expenditure, a SHORAD system (missile+laser, or missile+gun) is also mandatory.
>>64637339>To reduce MRSAM expenditure, a SHORAD system>missile+gun)RAM and Mk57 for last-ditch point defence>laserfor the moment too power-intensive, but the next ASW ship after that, certainly
Is it not normal to jeets to evaluate weapons before accepting them into service?
Who were some opponents of early tank development? I'm trying to do research on the subject, and of course there's the story of Churchill needing to steal money to fund the landship committee and stuff, but who exactly opposed it and why? Searching terms like "anti tank" or "tank opponents" just turns up anti-tank warfare.
>>64629942https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semyon_Budyonny
>>64630232>Insists on forcing others to read books>Doesn't specify which books. This is why Death Traps doesn't go away.
>>64634312>>Doesn't specify which books.If I knew the books I'd name them. But alas, I'm not a tank autist so I don't know what those are.I *do* recognize the problem though: anon is looking for information which the internet doesn't have. The internet is great for stuff that's old enough to be out of copyright, or stuff that's new and trendy. It fucking sucks for anything not in either of those two categories. The information anon wants will be tied up in books. You can use google to identify them--that's something Google is actually good for.
>>64630008From what I have read, it was rarely a few named individuals, most of the opposition was from large vested interest groups. There was even pressure from unions and guilds of mechanics of the time, who didnt want just anyone to learn the mysteries of motorised vehicles - to be an engineer was a high status and well paying career at the beginning of the century - so as the need for masses of armoured cars and tanks pushed for hordes of 'commoners' to replace the few high status mechanics, the mechanics of the time pushed back, often refusing to train up the masses in the skills needed.
>>64637028A book that explains some of the pushback is Iron Fist by Byran Perret. It has a chapter on how various organisations were resistant to the mechanisation of British forces - Palmerston calling Cowan's weaponised steam engine barbaric in 1854, the rejection of various armoured car designs by a horse entrenched General Staff, the competition from railway and naval manufacturing for the existing engineers, to the resistance of the engineers and mechanics themselves of their elite trade becoming common knowledge and less well paid.
Previous thread >>64615697>image limit reachedhttps://github.com/rcc11/4chan-sounds-player>Simulate schizophrenic auditory hallucinations with the sound player plugin!
>>64637332You're literally me...
The Sharpest General on /k/ - comfy victorinox EditionThis thread is about the appreciation of knives, bickering about what a bowie knife is, debating the merits of steel chemistry no one in the thread is qualified to explain, and pretending that we sharpen our blades."I want a knife recommendation."Answer the following:>Larping or folding (or both (or neither))?>Intended larp?>Blade circumference?>Local politicians you will stab?>How many weeks wages will you spend on this knife?Resources:>Freehand sharpening guidehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWU_qTp3DLM [Embed]Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>64620015They found them! Box was beat to shit but they survived. I need a slightly smaller knife for my snowmobile kit now.
>>64631845Nice, you're well-equipped with those two.
>>64630733That's only for walking around the house. When I go out I like to put a couple on the side just in case I run out. I hate running out.
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>>64631659agreed i would unironially buy the $65 miUSA version. its gotten a lot of use, ive veen had to sharpen it.
best ground vehicle coming through
i can't believe they released the source code to generals and the other cnc games. rise of the reds is a great mod. never tried shockwave.
I was excited for this mod in middle school I'm 30 now
>>64637196>Direct fire Tank destroyer with no armorThis thing would get shredded.
>>64637254heavy tanks are useless in modern war.
>>64637261There's never been a modern war between peers.
Realistically speaking what are the mechs even contributing to this military force that you couldn't get by just swapping out the APCs for IFVs instead?
>>64637153In most cases the MC just doesn't get hit, he's not particularly more durable than other mechs
Do they count as mechs if they have four legs?
>>64637108it's a retarded fan theory because it doesn't explain why each planet hasn't got like twenty thousand tanks
>>64637263Real world estimates put the number of tanks worldwide at 70,000 regardless of operability. Most of the planets in BT have unified governments and very low populations, which means the politics and economics are against large standing military forces.
>>64637308Warpact forces had fifty thousand tanks at peak strength. I know about the population problem, but BT planets ought to be at least the size of Eastern Europe altogether, right? And they are in a state of constant warfare, which means border planets ought to be that heavily cannoned up>be me>Drac Yak>caught by the Friendly Persuaders reaming out the underage Drac daughter of local planetary chairman>given the choice of honorabu seppuku or joining a Chain Gang dropping on a Fedrat planet>oh well, tenno heika banzai>hashtag justSuccessionWarthings>wait what's that sound>rumbleumbleumbleumbleumbleumble>a thousand Patton tanks beeline straight>fugg
This is a literal combat ship.
>>64637235Stark was just a frigate and survived two direct Exocet hits. If every US warship is tanking multiple AShM while shooting down the majority of incoming missiles, that puts them in a very advantageous position compared to the PLAN's fleet that will instantly sink from a single lucky hit, even if their air defenses are up to the same level as the USN's.
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>>64632982How the fuck are they struggling to design a fucking frigate?America was literally shitting out world-class warship designs every fucking year in WW2 and into the cold war they designed half a dozen NUCLEAR CRUISERS from scratch.But a frigate breaks their minds? Did they replace all the draftsmen with jeets?
>>64637272>in ww2In WW2 Pennslyvannia alone rivaled Germany in steel manufacturing. Today China dominates global steel production and America is barely in the picture. In WW2 America was close to 50% of world GDP today its ~25%, its 14% if you prefer PPP as a measurement.>China overwhelmingly leads global manufacturing with nearly 28-29% of the world's output, followed by the United States (around 17-18%). Another thing that gets glossed over is that American Industry in WW2 gets a massove boost from investments made in WW1 to scale up even further and the lesson learnt from WW1. That shit isnt happening today America's best bet is its allies, but good luck beating protectionist instincts (looking at you Maine and Wisconsin)
>>64637266Technically only one, since the first impact was a failure to detonate.
They are coming for your leadhttps://www.npr.org/2025/12/08/nx-s1-5599539/hunters-encouraged-to-trade-lead-bullets-for-copper-to-protect-scavenging-animals
We need to get rid of the environiggers
>>64636667Go back to india.
>>64622640Microplastics are not a big issue pertaining to guns, unless you regularly wash your Glock in the nearby river.
>>64637316There are plastic coated bullets and polymer tipped ones, but you get more from food packaging and clothing
>>64634790It's concern trolling.Been going on regular for years now.
