It's time to buy a gun in a big boy caliber. I plan on hunting with it, so weight and length is a concern. 500 yards and in, deer sized game. Thinking 6.5 creedmoor or .308, maybe in a 16" or 18" barrel since I like using a can. Thoughts? I like the springfield waypoint, but the barrel seems a bit long. Sig cross is tempting as well, even though I hate Sig with a passion. It has to shoot very tiny groups (sub .75 moa preferred) because im an accuracy douche, weigh less than 9 lbs, and preferably cost under 2500. Willing to go higher if its not super diminishing returns. Buy a factory gun or build one?
just get an M16A1. it does everything you want.
>>64640857>I plan on hunting with ityeah but you aren't gonna go hunting because you're too shy to go to classes, have no idea where to even go to hunt and have no idea what to do with a deer once you shoot it.so how about you just buy a steyr scout in 308 and have fun at the range instead.
Navy Secretary John Phelan just recently revealed the most recent proposal to replace the Constellation class frigates. It's basically a modified version of the Coast Guard's Legend class cutter carrying 16 VLS cells.https://breakingdefense.com/2025/12/navy-wants-new-frigate-in-2028-says-services-acquisition-head/https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5OJZ8eB_mPA&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD
>>64640511Looking it up, it appears to just the NSM box launchers we've seen for a while and Nulka decoys. It doesn't hurt, but it's not really the same thing as having VLS. How about the fire control system? I thought they were using the Firescouts for targeting the NSMs, what's getting added?
>>64640285>>64640404Yeah I like this, Indy mk2: vls boogaloo needs to happenAnd get on with building the rest of the Zum fleet as God intended. There really isn't time to fuck around with new designs anymore..
>>64640104Its too late to be picky. The number 1 role requirment when the FFg(X) was setting up was for the chosen Frigate to free up Large Surface Combatants so Burkes arent wasting time on nothing jobs like patrols, dickwaving and helping seize tankers. The other was defintely about having a shipyard heading into the 2030s pumping out 2 frigates a year. Japan, China, Korea, Spain, Italy, France and the U.K all have shipyards pumping out frigates. America is the odd one out. If the US can use the shitty NSC to half arse frigates its better than not having them just for being able to free up Burkes. Really the actual solution was to do what Greece and Indonesia did and just buy straight from Italy
>>64640621>64 Zumwalts with SPY-3 + 69 RMA SPY-6 DBR>64 Independences with SPY-7(v)2 and 16 PVLS>Both with government-owned open system softwareImagine.
>>64640275>Its clear that USN only knows how to build subs, carriers and BurkesI've said this for awhile and if you look at their track record its not actually all that surprising. OHP was really an outlier and was a (marginal) success only because of a few unique design choices that the USN has declined to learn from.Before that you had a scattershot of small run and pretty pricey escorts and frigates of all sorts with almost all of them focused solely on ASW. The USN (post 19th century) really has not done a very good job on small ship combatants and has largely focused on (and thankfully thrived with) larger, major surface combatants...and also subs as you pointed out but that came a bit later.Ironically, and I know no one wants to actually hear this, but the LCS was kind of (at least in some ways) actually a pretty smart idea. The USN has actually been pretty decent (not top tier but like B tier) on auxillery and support ships. So the LCS was a way to try and leverage that into also making it a small surface combatant but things didn't go as well as hoped obviously.
Do attack helicopters still have a place on the modern battlefield?
>>64640763Desu, my experience indicates its the millenials who *are* the commies.
Can't imagine how they will not get bullied by drones
>>64640799Millennials are mostly complete slaves to consensus and will go with whatever they think the group will want to hear them say.>t. millennial
>>64640774>in modern war, there's a lot more precision possible>there's a difference between attacking dual-use industry and terror bombingReasonable points. When paired with your response to the other anons, I think it gets to the heart of my thinking on the issue. I am not opposed to the development or usage of precision weapons, nor do I particularly mind touting their development as helping mitigate civilian casualties. But for me, getting the job done fast with the fewest friendly casualties possible takes priority, which means for me, I don't particularly care if, in a hypothetical war over Taiwan, we end up killing hundreds of thousands by giving the Three Gorges Dam the Operation Chastise treatment.
>>64640821Fair enough. As a zoomer, I haven't noticed much difference in disposition of my own generation.Kinda seems like it's a people problem, not a generation problem. Because, as extended time on 4chan will teach you, there are such things as conformists to nonconformity.
>had a little girl pull a gun on me today What is this world coming to? Recommend something non lethal that doesnt leave marks
>>64635113>>64634614>>64636944>>64637982>got told she was going to get fired for being too racist to jews
>>64637588Bruh
>>64637897The only thing I said was that bitch sucked at video games and she started blasting. I'm only stating the truth.
>>64640502>I'm only stating the truth.NO, YOU’RE TRYING TO START A WAR. MAYBE YOU’LL THINK MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU SAY NEXT TIME
>>64640832Hell no. Blue sucks at video games and she's stuck at bronze iii on Rainbow Six.
The shills say you'll definitely buy one.
Looks really ugly. Why doesnt the rail go to the front of the slide anymre?
>>64639880>going to the range even once a month and shooting 150-200 roundsWhy would you do this? You go to a noob range which is just a weapons testing line. They don't let you move or draw from the holster, use sling methods, etc. That's not training. You don't even need to fire any rounds to train, you're telling me you have no formal training to set a slate for what you do at the noob weapons testing line you go to, then you just shit thousands of rounds down the drain? Fucking hobbyists man, what a waste.>>64640357Gen 6 and they stil have a proprietary rail lmao. Glock is a failed experiment.
>>64639880Don't respond to that retard, he doesn't own any guns.
>>64640704lots of people on /k/ think going to an indoor standing slow fire range and dumping 400 rounds on a single target is "training"
>>64640770The same people recommend you take a "class" with your AR and magdump at paper targets 20 feet away, expending 4000 rounds in the process.
how would it change WWII if we adopted a closed bolt colt monitor with a flash hider instead of the garand and BAR?it's only a few pounds heavier than a garand.
>>64633536yeah because it would have been completely free to produce this instead there were totally zero legitimate reasons why simpler more robust weapons were fielded
>>64636459It's the Prussians after all, they knew how to leverage advantages. They won against the Chassepot because they had superior artillery despite a worse rifle. And in the previous war Franco-Prussian war it was the other way around. If they had both a worse rifle and artillery? The war would had been a lot harder.
>>64634718>unable accommodate accessories such as optics
>>64633303It probably seems like a logical question to someone that's not old enough to post here like OP.
>>64637001obviously there was something wrong with the m14 or we'd still have it.
Im becoming .22 wmr pilled and idk what to make of that
I used to own a Savage 93 in .22 mag, I could hit a steel plate at 200 yards with iron sights, was a fun little rifle but the 10 round mags didn't work right when loaded to capacity. >>64637886>imagine when the AR rifle was introduced>it's chambered in .243 Winchester >kills 99% of gooks>win the warSeriously though the only problem I've heard about .243 is it wears barrels out pretty damn fast. I used to own a Sako Forester but I didn't shoot it enough for that to happen.
>>64636011Must've forgotten to hit "submit" earlier. I have a 22LR set up how I want, a second just a part away from being a good backup, and an AR, all with a scope. So I have two 22 options depending on game as well as an AR, all with a scope. I think 22 WMR would be a nice in-between for certain game; probably less drop, better for groundhogs over 50 and maybe slightly bigger game. Cheap ammo, too, even the good stuff. Good compliment to the guns I already have; I just hope 22 mag supers out of a ~20-24" barrel with a silencer are in the same range of volume as 22LR supers out of a 18" barrel with a silencer.
>>64636011I'm tired of .17HMR being sidelined, it's great and deserved the meme launch cult status.
>>64640550Despite being effective at what it does, our country just discriminates on that bullet diameter. People who love .17-diameter bullets and/or .25-diameter bullets are constantly getting the short end of the stick.
>>64640690>>64640550>.22 wmr necked to .17Hold on now son i wasnt privvy to that info, i may be also getting .17 hmr pilled then
That's approximate number of nuclear warheads NATO, the Warsaw Pact, and their friends possessed at the peak of the Cold War in 1985.Here's my question, if things had actually had actually come to a head, how many of these could actually have been fired off in an exchange. Say, it's all-out mutually assured destruction where the goal is the total extermination of the opposing side, could you have actually seen 60,000+ warheads being fired off or would both sides have had command and control collapse after the first few hundred and the rest being left unable to be used?
>>64637401It's funny because an airburst detonation would cause more damage, but jeets.
>>64637406I just use it to fuck horsegirls but you do you
>>64638048Same, except the horsegirls fuck me
>>64637374what movie?
>>64640793It’s like multiple movies stitched together, I recognise some of the scenes from the Nic Cage movie Knowing
Unpopular opinion on this board: (From a relative close distance)Ive tried one of those arrows here and it cutted straight through an European wooden door (meaning, heavier, massive, not made of cardboard). It got stuck because of the back part of the arrow Lets say from close distance:A single arrow of this kind is deathlier than a single bullet from the same distance honnestly. This blade cutts enough veins and its impact is horrific. If it hits an artery its done soon but even the veins, tissue, other shit it damages is quite sick if you ask me. It's dark here now otherwise I could show you the door with literally a vertical hole of that arrow through it. I think a bullet will be my choice if I have to choose between being hit by a single bullet or a single arrow of this kind
>>64632667Broadheads are neither supersonic nor expanding.
>>64638188Mechanical broadheads are expanding. I guess the closest comparison is a short barreled subsonic rifle.
>>64632667I actually hunt small game with one of these. The tiny broadheads will do 3-4ish inches of penetration, very clothing and skin thickness dependent. I typically get a through and through with stuff like hares. As a self defense weapon it is almost useless except one case: unless they are high AF an abdomen shot will disable almost anyone unless they are wasted or a huge fatty. It will not kill them but they will have the thing stuck in them and if they panic, run or try to fight (or try to take it out) they are going to seriously fuck themselves up. They will probably be hurt enough that they are no longer a threat and will absolutely need a hospital. Almost anything is better but a gut shot with broadheads should work.
>>64636318Bows are not perfectly efficient, and they have an upper limit of limb speed, meaning that there is a point of diminishing returns as you reduce weight, i.e. there is a point past which you decrease weight and no longer increase speed, or before that, increase it by less than a worthwhile amount.Secondly, Energy is not the exclusive overriding factor with penetration even given the same type of contact point, especially in soft mediums. There has been so much study of this phenomenon for over 100 years it's not up for debate.All that said there'd be no reason to use some dinky pistol crossbow for self defense when compound pistol crossbows capable of putting out projectiles twice the size flying twice as fast.
>>64638005>Those hollow points don't really work the same way, they're hollow for balanceHaha yeah totally, it's just a coincidence that they also have vastly superior terminal performance.>and 5.56's terminal performance is based on fragmentation from velocity anywayNot really.
What sims/games have good missile design/missile carrier design and combat?>Aurora 4x>Rule the Waves 3>Children of a Dead EarthAnything else? I want to play around with making/producing/fielding missiles. Preferably the option of making very high end missiles with lots of bells and whistles. Thankfully Aurora has that now with multiple warheads, retargeting, a couple kinds of ECM etc.I wish there was something like CODE but with a more grand strategic level with production and construction to compliment the design portion.
>>64640510Nebulous fleet command has all of thatNuclear option not really making missile designs but it's a good game with lots of missiles and scenarios.
>>64640510>>Children of a Dead Earthisn't that the book patrick tomlinson made
>>64640596That's dead sun isn't it?
I want to chug-jug with youPrevious thread: >>64626089>image limit reachedhttps://github.com/rcc11/4chan-sounds-player>I can hear her singing at me from the pictures... I'm going crazy
>>64638720>My little brother is a successful engineering consultant making six figures despite not yet being 25Damn that’s rough. My cousins are either in the processing of getting STEM degrees or already graduated. One of mine just a few years older than me works as a labor negotiator for defense contractors and got married last year. There’s been lots of success in my family but me and my twin brother seem to be the odd ones out. Neither of us have dated anyone, neither of us seem to intend to, and definitely having not kids. It is what it is though.
>>64640778>but I'm not a fan of carry handles..You can just tell us you’re gay anon
>>64640777Teto looks a bit pudgy. NICE
>>64640778>I'm not a fan of carry handlesgayyou can just build an A4 though
>>64640778carry handle sights get in the way of better opticsbut I do wish more rifles had carry handles that came off the side like on the FAL>>64640800my first thought when I saw the imagethats why I downloaded it>>64640791a tale as old as timethe best thing you can do is support and love your brotherhopefully he feels the same wayjealousy over material shit is poison for the heart, and brothers shouldn't fight
We are investigating the J-8I and J-8II, the slender dragons.Why did China require an interceptor such as the J-8? What are the differences between the first and second generations? What features does the J-8 have? How significant is the J-8 in the progress of China's military aviation sector?https://youtu.be/-9QpnotFQN0
>>64631460/thread
You now remember that J-8 variant that they made with US equipment before [event that never ever happened at all]
>>64629569I don't think so.
>>64631470Grow up.
>>64631470i have a feeling the jet in OP's pic is not being touted as an f35 killer
The 6th one. Talk about Russian submarines, the nuclear military, all that shit. Someone probably has a link to the first 5.
>>64625446>>64626382Rods don't move very fast There was plenty of margin, they never came close to anything serious.
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>>64635397kek this backdoors a paywall
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>>64635747>>64635414>well that sucksThat doesn't even begin to describe how bad soviet uranium mines were, there's not much info on them but the account of one writer imprisoned there is beyond grim>The gulag workers in the uranium mine in Butugychag / Kolyma had a life expectancy of less than a year which seems absurd until you read that the mine was responsible for 380k deaths despite running a decade with peak capacity of 30k>the physically easiest job was the dryers in the ore processing plant which had only 6 hour shifts compared to the 14 hour ones in the mine proper>usually those workers did around twenty shifts after which they were sent to a "special treatment area" and left to die of radiation sickness
Turkish-made Aselflir EO for drones picks up car sized targets from 150 km range and aircraft sized targets from 200 km rangehttps://x.com/Tactical_Tipu/status/1999778180329357608?s=20
>>64639904Maybe now, but they bought Thales stuff for more than a decade during 2012-2022. Maybe even earlier. Literally all of the "new" and "modernized" russian tanks had french thermals. And local stuff was so bad that it wasn't even funny. There were some purchases of "belarussian" thermals, but those were like local assembly of foreign stuff AFAIK.
>>64634339Just use yards instead of meters, it's close enough.
>>64636185Nothing wring with being late to the party as long as you bring the snacks and booze.
>>64640199>>64636185Norks and Iran as well although their sensors are undoubtedly stolen from someone or at best inferior copies. The Turks having access to Western military sensors without embargoes means it really isn't much of a big deal.
>>64639990 >>64637502Ummmm here's a fact you might not know: The US used french thermals (paseo) for the M10.Now does that mean they can't produce thermals ? No, your argument is weak. >t. frog who couldn't give less shit about Russia
Realistically speaking what are the mechs even contributing to this military force that you couldn't get by just swapping out the APCs for IFVs instead?
>>64637162In the early parts of the original Gundam Amuro gets hit a lot, he just gets carried by the special alloy armor being strong enough that Zeon's Zaku machine guns though the bazookas and heat axes do work on it. It's later after he gets fucked up enough by Zeon's newer weapons on Earth and then the proliferation of beam rifles that dodging becomes the hard standard.
>>64639622Beam rifles made the series worse.
>>64613101GODDAMNIT GIVE ME MY MECHS NOW NOW NOW!
>>64637341Two things to remember: most conflicts in BT are small scale affairs closer to Cold War-era skullduggery and bush wars than grand interstellar conflicts and most planets are dealing with the economic and industrial fallout of both multiple civilization-disrupting wars along with being established under exploitative policies designed to limit capacity for autonomy. So it's more like:>Planet A wants tanks>lacks ability to make tanks>buys a fuck ton of tanks>knows buying tanks is strategic weakness>spends years slowly reverse engineering tanks and building the necessary industry to manufacture them>guy they used to buy tanks from hires some mercs to raze industrial districts on Planet A to keep them from becoming a competitor>lance of lights drops right next to the brand new tank factory, blows it up, and is back to their dropship before any non-local forces can respond
>>64613101The mechs literally outnumber the infantry in Battletech