Does anyone here have experience with 10m air pistol shooting? I wanted get into some form of bullseye competitive shooting that isn't two gun matches since it wouldn't involve me having to run around like a jackass. Plus .177 cal competition pellets are far cheaper than having to stock up on real ammo. I was looking around for an air pistol and I noticed there are massive price jumps.>Air Venturi Steyr knockoffWhile it is only ~$650 online people seem to complain about the grips and also don't appear to be all that accurate after you get out of being a novice>Hammerli AP20 ProI want to get one of these since they seem to be an okay price, but I am unsure what they are lacking being $1000 cheaper than a Steyr, Morini, or even a Pardini>Steyr, Morini, and PardiniI noticed most Olympic shooters go with either a Steyr LP10 (pic rel) but I am unsure what these three offer or differ over the other options other than I know most of the offerings from Morini have an electronic trigger and I know I am not overly crazy over that. But I am not sure dropping $2200-2500 on a pistol when I am unsure if I would even like the sport is wise to do when just starting out.>Used pistolsI see older pistols like Walther CPs or Feinwerkbau pistols go for a lot less on Fuddjoker or ebay, but I am unsure if spare parts exist or if the air tubes have service lives from being constantly filled and unfilled, seals, trigger parts, etc. are hassles I want to deal with.Ty for coming to my retard TED talk.
>>65030871I was looking around for one, but they are fairly hard to find here.
>>65029263I'm in NZ so the used market doesn't really exist. Our options are club notice boards /club email, auctions and trade me (our fb marketplace).Good competition airguns usually sell instantly when listed so you have to wait for them to pop up. Auctions can have dirt cheap air pistols but they are mostly old webley break actions.Clubs will usually be the best bet, ask around someone will have one. Or you can borrow the club one.>>65029517>Then it's just a matter of practice. I recommend buying a class or coaching session, since its the fastest way to get established with the fundamentals. You can teach yourself eventually, but it's impossible to overstate how much faster you'll get through the beginner steps with someone competent telling you what to do and giving feedback.This is very true if your new to shooting.>>65030871I started on one of these, Its much better than the toy style airguns but i jumped 30 points by getting the pardini.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I can't decide on a rear sight width.
Hämmerli AP20 is what i started shooting 10m air pistol with. Its perfectly fine and capable to reach 575+ results.If you can buy used air pistols Steyr LP2 is excellent value for the money, trigger is better and overall build quality aswell.What I personally dont like about AP20 and all Walther high end air pistols is the fact that the adapter for the compressed air bottle is made of steel with rather fine threads and the other side of the compressed air cartridge is made of aluminium. Therefore it can be easily damaged. Steyr on the other hand both uses brass and coarse thread. Its indestructible
>>65032096Duly noted anon, ty for the info.
https://github.com/rcc11/4chan-sounds-player>Simulate schizophrenic auditory hallucinations with the sound player plugin!Previous thread >>65020820>Images (limit reached)
>>65031620Humans tend to be pretty bad at guessing heights at a glance in general from what I've noticed, I think a large part of it comes from the fact that our eyes aren't at the very top of our heads, we have around a good half a foot from where we see things and don't really take that into consideration much which just totally throws off our sense of scale.Plus, "It's just an extra two feet" doesn't sound like a lot on paper until you actually bust out the measuring tape, I'd wager if you asked most people how tall they thought their ceilings were in an average North American home without them knowing the residential average, they'd say something closer to 9' than 8'
>>65033918>>65034045Realistically, given their physical strength combined with their Human intelligence, Umas would have become Lords, Kings and whatnot all over the World. We would probably live in a warrior/matriarchal society dominated by them, at least until the modern eraIn hindsight, Humans in the Umaverse are lucky Umas seem to be content with living normal, mundane lives
>>65034132>We would probably live in a warrior/matriarchal society dominated by them, at least until the modern era I wonder how men would be treated.
>>65034001Trust me I do
/arg/ high altitude ELCAN editionPrevious>>65022772
>>65034013>made with AI
>>65034024armlets will say it's fake
>>65034024>>65034052https://danieldefense.com/dd4-vfg-xtender.html
Just got to watch the launch from my backyard. It was so bright!
>>65034198>no picsnigger
>uses less metal than a sword>can be carried in your belt like a swordWhy didn't more cultures have a tomahawk culture? I think only the Vikings, injuns and Americans used tomahawks
>>65032695Yeah except that's wrong. People would turn up with spears, other poles, or bows, along with swords or daggers. Nobody was showing up with their random farm tool hatchet, because it'd be a shit weapon and you, a medieval man, would know war was a part of life and make at least done minimal investment in being able to defend yourself. On top of this, axes and hammers for fighting are completely different from working tools, are vastly less convenient than the dagger or knife you WOULD own and wear day to day, and are generally much less useful to a man with little or no armor than literally any other type of weapon, as they're absolutely shit for defending yourself with.
Like all weapons, a tomahawk is a compromise and those compromises made the most sense in America where much of the fighting was done with bows and muskets/rifles, and was fought by smaller groups that had to logistically support themselves. So it made sense have a light weight, cheap, easy to maintain/repair useful innawoods tool that could be pressed into combat when needed. 98% of the time it's gonna be use as a tool. From personal experience I can say that a tomahawk is a very handy tool to have innawoods
>>65032250Actually, cutlasses were used more often to cut ropes than they were to cut lasses.
>>65032695>Do you think the peasantry could afford swords?Do you get your medieval knowledge from Game of Thrones?
>>65032131>Why didn't more cultures have a tomahawk culture? I think only the Vikings, injuns and Americans used tomahawksEvery culture on earth had combat axes of some kind.Ancient Mesopotamians used bronze axes.Ancient Egyptians used bronze axes.Ancient celts used socketed iron axes.Ancient mesoamericans used copper, stone and obsidian axes.Persians fighting Greeks used iron axes. They were famous for double headed axes.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>65033993>>65034070it's not even going to happen, they have no fucking idea how to collect that many firearms, this shit is DOAoctober will come and they'll have collected nothing
>>65034143500 (some plastic parts), 590 (all metal except maybe safety, but that might be metal too now), 590a1, thicker heavy wall barrel. that's it.
>>65034158>>65034143only the 590A1 is all metal. the regular 590 has a plastic safety and plastic trigger group/guard. honestly with the metric shitload of variants Mossberg now offers across the 500 and 590 models, you really just need to look at the specific gun/model/package and pick the set of features you want.
>>65034143Blue Line pump unironically. It's just a norchinko built 870, all metal unlike most mossys these days
>>65034158the only 590 thats guaranteed the metal triggerguard is the 590a1.theres plenty of 590s that come with the default plastic triggergroup.
>BST (Buy, Sell, Trade) GENERALPost your funz, gear, etc.
>>65031334Gen 1-3 it was being used my gen 3 34
Steiner DBAL-PL visible laser, IR laser, IR illuminator & white light. Manufactured in September 2015 when they were still doing business as Laser Devices Inc. Asking $500
I also got a Burris fullfield E 4.5-14x42mm im looking to sell.Nothing wrong with it just need something with more eye relief Asking 150$ shipped or if your within an hour or so of Asheboro i could meet half way
Bump
What weapons could be used to accomplish this?
>>65033062I doubt Trump knows how to play standard chess.
>>65013846I don't know but, please God make it happen.
Wasn't there something this year that literally was transmitted through shit in india?
create a monster flu virus with hooks to genetic marker based on ethnicity
>>65014151>mfw
Saudi Arabia will no longer buy US weapons, according to MBS after Trump insulted him. Whose weapons will they buy? South Korea or Europeans ones?
>>65033117>chinkshill still seething
>>65033377Look they have literally nothing at this point
>>65033077Trump is destroying American hegemony so people are a little wild
>>65033293>Guys, Trump was just a little excursion we swear!! Yeah we voted him in for a 2nd time and a large swath of the country support everything he does but we'll go back to Obama neo-liberalism!!!It's over dog lol. Just because your political leaders are retards who can't see past a week, doesn't mean other countries are the same
>>65033041I, John Smith of Alablyatma oblast, am demoralized. Now all Americanskis must call on tsar Trump to cease slaughtering Iranian cowards and aid mighty Persian lion in two week, 907 day special jihad operation to liberate Al Quds.
Post gear, discuss gear.On the edge / Tactical Hood editionOld: >>65005166
>>65033414Thankfully my kids don’t seem to have it. I’m undiagnosed but I’m pretty sure, likely due to circumcision and vaccination
>>65032878>Think long and hard about this one anon. How would I get 6 magazines to the fight if I didnt have 6 pouches. if I remove one mag from a pouch, holy shit an open pouch I could place a magazine in. Shocking I know.This is why no one should ever listen to inexperienced, attention seeking tripfags.
>chink soft armor skirts and MCB cloak posting continues>A2 having a melty over dump pouchesI'm trying to color match choccy chip and failing
>>65033807Yeah I gotta be honest A2 is losing the dumpy wars.I recommend asking JinWuDun for a choccie chip IIIA skort and then bacraft for a custom choccie chip cape.Become gulf war samurai. Ghost of Baghdad. The Man Who Holed the Saddam. You will surpass even Bush. I will award you the title of Big Bush.You are a true patriot.
>>65023472>>65023493>>65023454what hood is this
>Video of a Shahed drone being shot down by a battle-tested Ukrainian P1-Sun interceptor drone in the Middle EastNow we know why Zelensky was doing his gulf states tour
>>65033800I don't really see anyone speaking highly of le orange man anymore, except maybe on twitter, but that's mostly bots these days. Drumpf is just old and isn't funny like he used to be. Besides I found his treatment of Zelenskyy personally distasteful, and generally speaking most people here are pro Ukraine so that probably matters too. Besides, Zoomers have gone into their niche political sub communities that only agree on despising anyone who has any power. So I always expect there to be spam about anyone who's ever won an election outside the indian subcontinent. It's just a fact of life at this point.
>>65033800DRUUUUMMPF TWO SCOOPS
>>65033968>Besides I found his treatment of Zelenskyy personally distastefuli swear the yuroid posters on /k/ are so fucking funny to Americans like me who don't really care so emotionally and personally; just like to see US intelligence get ziggers blown up
>>65033742he would laugh at you and have you arrested (deserved)
>constant tds and nogunz seething>chinkshill getting uppity againwonder what happened now
Inside a tunnel used by rebbels against rome.How did they manage to live in such a cramped place?
>>65033906the People's Liberation Front of Judea
>>65033950>frustrating for me it's just upsetting to know I share a world with people either too retarded to comprehend reality or shameless enough to lie about it. being wrong is one thing but I can't stand the fake it till you make it face-saving routine every normalnigger practices
>>65034007Normies understand an intrinsic aspect of the human experience which is that nothing matters or even exists once it stops being talked about and truth is one distraction away from changing. They don't care enough and can't be made to care enough. Their trifling, trivial lives and aspirations will crush an eternity of history and meaning like a bulldozer to make way.
>>65033910the ones Tolkien based the dwarves on?
>>65033950it's like if a netouyou were to point at pearl harbor and claim they beat the USAon the other hand though, I also don't get why people on /pol/ would gloat about the subsequent destruction of judea, when its scattering of the jewish people is why they ended up all across the western world: had this not happened, then they would be nothing more than another levantine ethnoreligious group no more internationally relevant than the druze
After a year long absence, the journey of the Busta Move(s) and her intrepid crew continues! Previous installments: https://desuarchive.org/k/search/subject/Target%20for%20Today/>what the fuck is thisTarget for Today is a solitaire tabletop game (translated to digital for these threads) covering the USAAF's bombing campaigns in Europe throughout the Second World War. With options for choosing everything from which Air Force, Bombardment Wing and Squadron you fly with all the way to which submodel of aircraft you'll be flying, the game is rife with detail. Over a year ago we began the journey of the Busta Move, a B-24 of the 15th Air Force (49th Bomb Wing, 451st Bomb Group, 725th Squadron). While perilous, our crew has done far better than the ill-fated men of the B-17s that shared the Big Nigger titles, with our current permanent losses consisting of:>Copilot Harris>Radio Operators Sean Bean and Poncho>Waist gunners Fanculo, Danielson and Sam Hyde, with another (Lefty Navel) being medically dischargedOur bombing results, however, have been much less impressive: out of eleven combat missions the Busta Move has been forced to abort due to combat damage six times, and on a mission to soften up Anzio for Allied landings we missed the target entirely. Our 10th mission, Milan, was another abort but the flight back was a nightmare. By the time the Busta Move returned to base, she had lost two engines, both main landing gear, all of the twin .50 cals had been rendered inoperable, the entire oxygen system had failed, one wing was barely attached, half the crew was wounded and dozens of other minor hits had been taken. That plane was retired and the Busta Move II was put into action, already having completed one mission.For now, strap your parachutes on, grab a K-ration and lets go bomb vaguely near strategic targets!
With guns firing in nearly every direction, the dice gods take favor with us, as our gunners score a variety of hits on the incoming Germans. None of them go down, but their own gunnery is disrupted not only by our output damage but also a set of very poor rolls. Despite the multitude of attacks, the Germans score no hits whatsoever.
jettison bombs
Radioman, please hail my mommy on any available frequencies. I need her to come pick me up, post haste.
>>65034091sweet jesus
We break off from the rest of the squadron, turning for home. We retain good fighter escorts, which quickly moves vital. A set of Germans picks us out as a juicy target, but the escorts keep all but one of them off of us. A flurry of gunfire convinces him that even this lone bomber is more trouble than it's worth and we're onto zone 2!
Congratulations Commander Anon,Due to unforeseen complications with ISR your predecessor was exploded seventeen times taking his daughter to school.You are given a simple order:Survive. How do you go about harassing the US military enough to force capitulation? Do you base any of your tactics or strategies off similarly successful asymmetrical belligerents that have also repelled American invasion? Remember, any use of materiel will likely result in its destruction. Your resources are limited but the resolve of those under your command is infinite. Surrender of any kind is not an option. How do you proceed?
>>65032786>Ground invasion would be the worst thing for IranThis. Americans should stop being chikens about it. Just mobilise a million or something of your prisoners if you don't want to waste trained soldiers and land then on Iran mainland. Support them from the air and with drones, promise freedom of they take tehiran. Will work. Arm them with M48 Pattons if you don't wanna waste abrams, I know you have lots of them on the shelf.Might hire some african merks as well.
>>65033050Yeah, sounds more like western involvement in WWII was most certainly a mistake, and Roosevelt and Churchill were vile sons of bitches that should be vilified. The shit you posted, >>65032951, is retarded, and would make the situation far worse. Better for the bleeding heart faggots to hear and cry about it, than try and take arms when you cut them off.
>>65032630This is literally the highest IQ post I have seen on this board all year and nobody responding to you is getting it.
>>65032951How many more wars do you jarheads have to say the same lines about before you understand that k/d does not fucking matter at allGo back to the basics. War is the continuation of politics by other means. Therefore, before you go to war, you must identify political objectives, and these must be objectives which you know for a fact can be achieved through a war.The winner of a war is the one who has more completely fulfilled their political objectives. You morons keep getting into wars where you have no political objectives besides fantasy land stuff where after you hang around long enough, local populations decide they love being occupied, actually. And in doing so, you create political objectives for your enemies that are very easy to achieve - usually just "survive in some way shape or form long enough that America leaves. Inflict at least enough damage by any methodology that you show up in the New York Times."At this point it looks to me like regime change war is fundamentally impossible these days, unless you have a large class of eager collaborators ready to run the country for you, BEFORE the war begins. You can't build up your friendly government after the war starts.And if you can't achieve your political aims, you should not start the war.
>>65032951>20 year war>just a few more weeks and we'll win, trust me bro???
Seems like NATO is under alot of flak lately. Let's share some fun/memorable stories about joint-trainings, deployments together, exchanging MRE's and good banter to reminisce about the good old times.
Good to see that my thread went into the intended direction.
>>65034104Holy ESL...
>>65033915So the idea here is that if NATO was not a thing, the US would spend 0% of its GDP on subs, nukes, carriers and tanks?
>>65034118>Less Abrams have been lost in combat than LeopardsOk, now tell me how many Abrams and how many Leopard are in use there.
>>65034133You have to be the dumbest motherfucker on the board to think a NATO thread would go any other way during war tourism season
We're undeniably in the age of the drone, modern militaries have very little cost effective counters to small mass produced drones, but that wont last, better detection and interception technology like interceptor drones, lazars, specialized ammunition, better EW are being developed and slowly rolled out, the Ukraine war will be viewed like how we view world war one, a strange inflection point of bad and outdated strategy meeting new more powerful weapons. the drone will eventually be just another tool in the arsenal instead of a wonder weapon,
>>65033532they work hand in hand. missiles deliver payloads that drones can't at speeds that you can't take cover from.drones can change targets at will and choose the most opportunistic time to strike while being able to pick out individual soldiers
>>65033593It's not a binary better/worse thing, it's different and has both benefits and downsides:- electric power allows to use multi-rotor designs with a fucked up level of maneuverability and rapid acceleration;- basic bitch internal combustion engines with propellers elevate a drone to a cheap cruise missile, which is too costly to counter with conventional AA, and also harder to even lock on because no jet stream of heat exists;- and so onThis doesn't mean that missiles are bad or anything though. A missile is obviously harder to shoot down by a guy in a pickup truck with a machine gun. A missile can bring 1000+ lbs warhead to the target, reach it faster and so on.
>>65033255Computers aimed laser turrets will negate the slow drones and force them to be guided missiles. The tech has already been demonstrated on ships. It is surprising that Ukraine doesn't already have a working system for shaheed defense around their major cities.
>>65033255>muh dronesLiterally only because Globohomo. Cheap minerals from Africa and cheap labor from China allows this. Any sort of "WW3" is immediately going to kill these high technology "disposable" systems.
>>65033255>modern militaries have very little cost effective counters to small mass produced dronesYes, that's why Russia has won the war 50x over now by spamming shasneeds at Ukraine, and that's why 50-bazillion Ukies starved and froze over the winter.At least try, /pol/-skin.
