Why wouldn't something like pic related work fine as a "do everything" gun for a person living in the densely forested hills of Appalachia, where the power and ballistic advantage of a rifle simply isn't necessary?>plinking will be good fun with the naturally subsonic .45>definitely suitable for home defense>easy enough to fit in a backpack, or take the can off and carry it on your person>get some .45 Super for killing deer or hogs, or mess around with round ball loadings for taking small game or for pest controlYes, it's true that rifles can be had for dirt cheap these days. And it's also true that there is no real reason to limit yourself to just one gun, especially a handgun. But in an autistic min-max fantasy where you literally can only own one gun and it has to be able to be carried 24/7/365, does a suppressed .45 automatic make sense? The only real downside I see here is that this is not the best option for summertime concealed carry in hot climates.
>>64731902The answer is the FN Five-seveN. I basically use it for exactly what you describe.>Subsonic rounds22lr sub equivalent with the benefit of being cf.>Supersonic rounds22wmr (rifle barrel) equivalent good for whitetail on down.It's honestly the perfect gun and I wouldn't really need to own anything else except where state laws steps in and requires certain bore diameter for the type of game in question.I chose it over 9mm because a woods gun needs to be lightweight, it's quieter than anything else out there in cf except a 4.6, penetrates better than basically all commercial pistol rounds aside from meme shit. It's basically the perfect gun tbqhwy.
>>64743991Also a good option if you're too poorfag for a five seven. Well done anon.
>>64751990Okay I know you are bullshitting. 5.7 absolutely does not penetrate better than normal pistol rounds and 5.7 is loud af. 5.7 is a good round, but I sure as hell would never use it as a woods gun unless the biggest thing you may run into is a stray shitbull.
>>64751990> it's quieter than anything else out there in cf except a 4.6Doubt. It’s a higher pressure bottleneck round. >penetrates better than basically all commercial pistol rounds aside from meme shitAgainst hard targets like mild steel, aluminum, or kevlar vests. Not against flesh. It’s too light and it’s wounding mechanism is upsetting and tumbling in flesh. That’s not conducive to penetration. Post your 5.7. I doubt you own one.
can you even call yourself a /k/ommando?
>>64742760>not full fun.You don’t own an MP5 though. You own cope.
>>64752314and you don't own anything so why listen to anything you say?
>>64752316I guess that makes you the.... owner of a lonely heart
>>64752334Much better than a owner of a broken heart, honestly.
>>64743144like you?
There's a letter from Teddy Roosevelt that says he likes peep sights, but I cannot find a single example of a rifle he owned and used that has peep sights. I've seen an 1894 Winchester that the NRA has or had that has factory sights and a can he used for shooting varmints in his yard on long island so the neighbors couldn't hear (even more based because it was an 1894 and not an 1892 like a normal person, I guess Teddy wanted to feed those gophers .30-30). Cody in Wyoming has or had his 1895 winchester from Africa and that has factory open sights. Pic related is his bubba'd up 1903 with what looks like Winchester sights.There's an 1895 Winchester with a peep that was in a rock island and NRA article, but when you look into it it was a gift he gave to some other officer from the rough riders and not a gun he shot himself. there's an 1886 that was presented to him from winchester for the Africa trip but he never brought it with him so idk if he used it. There's a hawkens rifle that belonged to Kit Carson so I'd assume Kit Carson put on the sights and Teddy didn't add sights to some other famous guy's gun (though that would be based)
>>64748485I can only speak to what I've seen, and even that is excessive.These threads are just as stupid as the geopolitics threads. OP gets a hair up his ass, makes another thread about aperture sights.What type of retardation causes that behavior?
>>64748468>Are you the anon who keeps making aperture sights threads?nope>>64748482>>64748485>>64748493they weren't me, but they don't shit up the board considering there are over 100 no gunz threads about planes and other bullshit like north korean special forces
>>64748495Fair enough, I'm standing down
yeah
this is the geopolitics board, not the gun board
barrel slings look so kino even if they do reduce accuracyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S14gmosRfeoAlso the USoG put this video out literally the day after the thing happenedhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/wk_ce4A_iH4
Does he deserve his shit reputation for the Battles of the Isonzo? After all what else could he realistically have done? He had a very narrow mountainous front with no room for any sweeping manoeuvres or flanking. And he won most of the battles.
>>64745602Soča. Thanks to Cadorna.
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>>64748418To be fair shitting the bed at Caporetto was magnitude bigger than any small victories he had accumulated beforehand.
>>64741338just to give you an idea what mindset he and most of the italian generals had:when the war started northern slovenia was battlefield.Austrians evacuated the slovenes on their side of the frontline, build new town quarters for them in nearby safe locations. The imperial guards even helped em catch chickens and other livestock when evacuating.The italians on the other hand rounded the (non austrian, non german speaking) slovenes up, deported them to concentration camps in Ligiuria where half of them died. these were just farmers who had no clue what was going on.same post war, when the slavic and german soldiers of austria retreated from italy. the italians made em give up their weapons and promised them a safe return. a false promise, they were stripped, beaten, paraded thru towns and a quarter of a million men died in italian concentration camps afterwards.many italians didnt want to die for the imperialistic dreams of some politicians in rome. after the enormous losses, whole units deserted in such numbers that the italian generals used decimation to keep discipline and executed every tenth man.bravo, cadorna (and for repeating a little verdun fuckup at least 10 times).
>>64752446brutalizing slavs is the only good things the italians did, and i'm sad they didn't kill more of them.
>84 years old>still the greatest machine gun ever madeWhat went so right?
How many armored soldiers from the late middle ages would you need to appreciably affect a bronze age battlefield?
>>64746615Bullet proofed plate was even heavier than the usual sort, generally only stopped bullets to the torso, and even still mostly from smaller firearms at the time.The full-sized handhelds usually could go through at anything but longer distances.
>>64747484off the top of my head they helped kick the Ottomans out of Italy preventing Rome from falling like Constantinople did, they were involved in a bunch of central European campaigns in Hungary and Bohemia >>64746214>It doesn't matter that they weren't widespread in one regionwhat does matter is that Han Chinese crossbows predated a shit ton of advancements in material science and design thus typically they had half the draw weight of a Medieval version if not less, they really wouldn't have much impact on late Medieval plate armor.
>>64747681Depended on range and even then it certainly want a done thing even by the 19th century, the arms/armor race was well in full swing in the 16th and 17th centuries.And even then, though it is night and day compared to older armor you have the likes of Ned Kelly or the WW1 breastplates that did function against even modern firearms
>>64747805>what does matter is that Han Chinese crossbows predated a shit ton of advancements in material science and design thus typically they had half the draw weight of a Medieval version if not less, they really wouldn't have much impact on late Medieval plate armor.This is all true, but the comment I was originally responding to was making the claim that...>"Once crossbowmen, pikemen, and gunners became common on the battlefield, pre-Late Medieval/Renaissance era warfare was dead, effectively."... and I pointed out that two of those things existed long before the medieval period.
>>64738852The battle of the Teuteburger forrestshowed clearlythan bronze/stone age can defeat iron i.e. middle ageQuintili Vare, legiones redde!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RNJ3dZDpbgcWell there you have it, it's kino
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>>64750772you first, homo
z10 is italian
>>64750760>I NEED A RIDE>I NEED A RIDE>I NEED A RIDE
>>64751974how does it shoot anything with the barrels plugged up like that?
>>64752038>I'm bingo on ammo do you copy? >running dry>running dry
>>64752328>AMMO HERE!>AMMO HERE!>HAVE SOME AMMO!
>>64752044It's still in development and I don't think they have got to weapons trials yet, or at least that I have heard about.
Over the past century, technological changes have come about which would actually make the Ratte a viable platform.>miniaturization of nuclear reactors>miniaturization of nuclear warheads>lasers for defense against drones and missiles>improvements to computers for fire controlThere is no better time than now to build the Ratte.
>>64744414https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kem_3JKW8iU
>>64748081Realistically speaking so long as you have nuclear weapons or even something more devastating, the eternal argument ends with sword>shield. Consequentially being a fuckoff huge target would simply end poorly for you as missiles, typical artillery, or even nuclear landmines would mean more agile and attritable, not to mention pre-existant forces would remove you from the equation. Unless you address many or all of these factors its not really feasible enough people give the OK to dedicate the necessary engineering expertise to design this and then filter resources away from the front to arm and protect this thing.
I don't understand why Hitler, Dr. Porsche, and others continued to downplay the importance of the ability to recover, repair, and re-equip stranded AFVs. The only trailers I know of in Germany capable of carrying heavy tanks were a few examples used at test sites.
>>64739562Ah shit one of the seven people who played Haze escaped the museum again
>>64739401>10 billion nuclear megatank>cannot cross bridgesI'd buy one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b52tVlHc84Is that a fucking pistol real sight in the red dot cut out? Is PSA inventing a shotgun that can't be used as a shotgun because it has pistol sights for some reason? the receiver is objectively the worst place to mount a red dot on a shotgun. the best option would be if you could get it low profile on the barrel or as a qd on a side rail like an AK, though the barrel, especially if you can get the bottom of the red dot below the receiver would be great because then you could have a red dot mounted for HD or turkey or if you're in one of the like 3 states that still require slug guns for durr and then you can take off the barrel, the red dot remains zeroed and you can put on a different barrel for birds or clays I really don't understand this psa 570 thing. it looks like they just designed a gun to compete with turkshit and the mav 88 to be a ghetto blaster for blowing up trash on blm land
>>64751207I guess I don't see the point of buying this when you can buy the Mav 88 that comes with two different length barrels for $299https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/shotguns/mossberg-maverick-88-field-security-combo-12-gauge-3in-blued-pump-shotgun-185in28in/p/1506620
>>64751394yeah I agree. the only advantage is I think the PSA is made in the US whereas the mav is made in mexico. but if you care about it being made in the USA you can just buy a regular mossberg. Mavs are probably fine anyway. most of the budget shit on a mav88 is budget shit mossberg was doing on the 500 until they bought maverick arms, at which point they slightly upgraded the 500
>>64751402didn't know any of that thanks
>>64751394They already said the PSA will be convertible between pump and semi auto. That alone gives it a purpose to exist. And if the semi auto version is less than fucking 1100 dollars, it'll be a pretty good deal.
>>64751174It would have to be lower than the 500 or 590 in price if they want anyone to buy them
If you're the dictator of a shithole how do you prevent the hollowing out/paper tigerization of your military over time? All of these had strong capable militaries until one day they didn't and got their cheeks busted and wig split
>>64750477Prevent brain drain and stop killing your own people.
>>64750477You have a nation that isnt a poor corrupt shithole
>how do I fuck this toaster without burning my dickWhatever solutions you employ, none wil work as well as simply not fucking the toaster.
>>64752415>not fucking the toasterExtra heretical.
>>64750477>be actually liked by the populace and subordinates >also don't be paranoid as fuck>because of the 2 things you don't have to slice your militaries tendons out of fear if a coupTadaaaa!
>"friendly" aircraft has no radio/you have no radio>Starts shooting at youAt this point can you per rules of engagement engage the aircraft with SAMs?Ergo if you shoot it down would you be considered liable for it
>>64752454If they shoot at me, they get shot at. I'll leave possible legal nuances for later.
>>64752454A F-16 harmed a horny patriot that was sniffing the wrong radar return during the Gulf war so I assume turnabout is fair play.But you better have already exhausted any possible way of getting the pilot's attention
Why aren't ballistic submarines the backbone of world navies? Why haven't surface ships been relegated to carrier protection and amphibious operations? Why not make SLBMs out of RIM-66s and Standard missiles and Tomahawks and ASROCs? If you want force projection why wouldn't the ambiguity of the presence of submarines be enough to scare your enemies?
>>64741566I bet in the future we will have submarine carrier either drones only or planes too. The only issue is that they wouldn't be great for scouting since it would reveal their position and ruin their greatest strenght.Also submarine lack the presence of surface ship, how can you patrol and show force if it's all hidden? Maybe better for war but not as useful during peace.
>>64741566Something no-one has said yet: Submarines are inherently slow. They wall out much, much faster than surface ships. They need vastly more horsepower-per-knot and each extra knot takes exponentially more power. More power and/or speed = more noise unless you spend absolutely appalling amounts of money and even that won't save you after a while.Boomers are expensive as fuck. Only a handful of nations have ever built them. Subs that can surface to launch are a little bit easier to make, but lose their primary advantage. Naval reactors are even harder to make than a subsurface launch platform. Not only is a sub expensive as fuck to make, it's incredibly hard to maintain. Unlike a surface ship, you can't do a bodged patch job on a weak section of hull and make it home, and any one of dozens of systems failing is a death sentence rather than an embarassing limp home.>>64746693>Or join the USN and get drunk on toilet wineYou act like the good ol' boys can't make a proper fermentation lock, source a food-grade bucket, and build hidden stills in the engineering spaces.>bunkieEw, no, you have to smell his fucking feet every night. At least swap berthings. >>64749484Yes, because any evidence for that is classified higher than Minuteman design. Russkies are jumpy as shit about it, always have been.
>>64749484>There is no evidence we 24/7 track every Russian sub in the world.other than all the personal testimonials and memoirs by Cold War sub captains and crew and ops staff
>>64751205This>Submarines are inherently slow.Should note that this is a feature, not a bug. Submarines are deliberately made with a slow cruising speed to minimize noise. It's not something that can or even should be fixed. >Not only is a sub expensive as fuck to make, it's incredibly hard to maintainUnlike a surface ship, you can't do a bodged patch job on a weak section of hull and make it home, and any one of dozens of systems failing is a death sentence rather than an embarassing limp home.And the anechoic tiles are always falling off, the hull HAS to be made of steel and steel rusts in seawater, cookiecutter sharks are always trying to take bites out of the hull, and it's not like you can send out a bosun's mate and two seamen first class to scrape barnacles off the hull whenever you like.
>>64752327>the hull HAS to be made of steel and steel rustsWell you can also make it out of Titanium, which is more resistant to corrosion.If you absolutely do not give a shit about the budget that is.
Philippines will get 5th gen fighters before Chinahttps://defencesecurityasia.com/en/philippines-kf21-boramae-delivery-2027-2029-south-china-sea-airpower/
>>64749980>Americans decided to sell F-35 to Singapore.>Doesn't realize that Singapore is another Communist China province.>Singapore allowed PLAAF 'technician' to inspect the F-35 in the name of Chinese brotherhood and supremacy>Just a year later F-35 got surpassed by advanced Shenyang FC-31 version.I laughed hard when I saw news that the US is going to sell F-35s to Singapore. The moment those jets land in Singapore there is going to be an army of Chinese spies ready to dig into whatever areas they haven't stolen already
>>64751639>surpassed by advanced Shenyang FC-31 version.
>>64751677Cope and dilate nigger
>>64746545>killswitchLike rods from god, anyone who mentions this should be gassed.
>>64751639 LOL west taiwan has not proven they can produce engines that are strong enough for their fat jets.
