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Just tested my P938 with the safety off and hammer cocked. I dropped it at waist level with the muzzle up and the fucking hammer dropped. The safety does prevent the trigger from being pulled, but without the safety, the hammer will fucking drop.The P938 isn't drop safe if the manual safety is off.
>>61957570Are you sure that’s not the sear being jostled off the hammer so the safety cannot prevent the hammer from falling?
>>61957570Yeah. Fuck SAO
>>61957581desu, I have no clue. But without the safety, the hammer drops. I don't reload, so no case with only the primer. Maybe I have a virgin snap cap somewhere.
>>61957570>sig isn't drop safeI mean yeah, I would have put money on that lol
>>61957570Are you sure the hammer falls all the way? Many SAOs have a half cock position which will stop the hammer from falling full onto the firing pin. Does the 948 have a firing pin block? Post underside of slide.
>>61957603>>61957581Yes, it does have a firing pin block. It does indeed stop the hammer at the half cock position. Pretty sure its drop safe. Will test with a virgin snap cap soon.
>>61957566Ah yes, have a weak af fuck topnlock with a shitty bottom firing revolver.Worst of all worlds.
>>61957553Ok but is the Glock 26 still relevant for CCing compared to more modern choices ?
>>61957553Wow, Beretta PX4 Storm General is so cool!
Siggas… our marketing push isn’t working…
>>61957553>the shitty spaghetti spam never ends
>>61957659At least there are no dog faced slant eyed broads or tranime in the OP this time I guess
>>61957659I got 19 and a half of them, I’ll let you know personally when I get #20
I for one enjoy watching this schizo meltdown at patterns
Outside of .22, while 9mm is my cheapest (practical) option for semi-auto, what is my cheapest option for revolver? Just .38? I wanna dip my toe into revolvers but I haven't committed yet
>>619576321 bottom firing top break 10 shot revolver in .22 mag please
>>61957720You can get a revolver in 9mm if ammo cost is your main issue.I never shoot my revolvers anymore, and haven't bought ammo in a while for them, but I swear 38 wasn't that much cheaper than 357.And when the election panic comes, 38 is unibtanium, boomers hit that and 22 first.
>>61957723Bottom firing revolvers are shit, unreliable and bad triggers.
>>61957725>but I swear 38 wasn't that much cheaper than 357It really isn’t, even now. If I can buy a box of one for $40 and a box of the other for $45, I’m not saving much by running .38. And I have noticed prices going up on .38 range ammo. Sucks to like shooting revolvers. > And when the election panic comes, 38 is unibtaniumStocking up now in preparation for that. I really should get more bulk 5.56 too because that always goes oos around election time.
>>61957659Well get somebody else to make a handgun that balances >price>quality>meme factorAnd the spaghetti spam will stop.
>>61957757CZ, but people call them “reddit” here
>>61957725>>61957751You really have to get into reloading to shoot revolvers a lot these days if you don't want to pay rifle ammo tier prices. I shoot .38s for 17 cpr
>>61957766Sorry, the mere rumor of the firing pin retaining pin and trigger return spring and also the take down pin constantly breaking will prevent me from ever carrying a CZ. If I can’t carry it, I might as well not own it
>>61957769If I ever get into reloading I’m shooting .45lc
>>61957766>CZPrice is fineMeme factor is poor- they're fairly anonymous in media, those that know know their reputationQuality is shoddy- most guns don't have springs and pins that are considered wear items. It's either a flawed design that overstresses these items or inferior materials that have persisted for years.
Does anyone have experience with the Beretta 96D (double action only)? I have been looking at LEO trade in G23s to use for backpacking, but stumbled across the 96D at a pawn shop. It has an odd plastic shell around the frame to allow for a light. I own a 92x and a G27 and like them both for their separate applications. If I'm thinking of using hardcast ammo for bear defense, would it make more sense to use a steal frame handgun? Thoughts?
>>61957645>>61957659You guys had at least 2 hours since the last one hit bump limit to create your own and take Beretta 1301 away from someone who was obviously going to post about the shotgun. You have nobody to blame but yourselves, quit whining.
>>61957766He said quality, so CZ is out
>>6195780740 is shit.Get 9mm or 10mm
>>6195780796D is a double action only variant of the 96, it has a cool slick side slide, there is nothing stopping you from dropping in DA/SA components, you just won’t have a decocker and must manually decock. It is not steel frame. None of the 90 series guns are steel frames except rare models and the 92X Performance. The middle one is a 96D Vertec I converted to DA/SA. It’s a been a while since I shot .40 out of a 96, it wasn’t pleasant. Bears aren’t video game enemies, they’re just as vulnerable to bullets as anything else. You can buy suitable 9mm rounds for bears, either hard cast, FMJ, or solid copper spear points, if it can go IIIA body armor I think you won’t have an issue with a bear, so I’ll put in a recommendation for Fort Scott TUI 9mm, get the 92gr ammo or whatever is the pointiest.
>>61957807The 96 (not the -A1, just the original 96) is underbuilt for .40 S&W and has a typical service life of maybe 10k rounds.Looks sick, though.
>>61957807.40 is designed for expansion, 9mm is more than enough for penetrating bears and you get more capacity. If you want peace of mind with more firepower, 10mm/.357 or hotter
>>61957757>price>quality>meme factorYou called?
>>61957886That's a sig product which means if it gets posted the resident tards who make it their personality to let you know they hate sig like a boomer hates their children will not shut the fuck up about it.
>>61957910How is that different that posting a PX4 where tards will come out of the woodwork to hate on it
>>61957553>beretta faggot spammer goes from HG 1298 straight to 1301 just to spam more beretta
>>61957910That's all part of the meme value. You get to be a 'sigger' as the zoomers say, AND it's a 10mm which anon never fails to inform me is a meme caliber.
going shooting tomorrow. I have nothing to contribute past the enthusiasm I have for making the gun go bang.
>>61957924no retard. The glock sucker spam threw the thread count off.
>>61957928A single stack 10mm with a garbage trigger is quite meme-yEspecially with your legion challenge coin
>>61957838I'm already in on it, so it made sense to stick with it. But I have also considered 10mm glocks.>>61957842Good to know about the components. I'm surprised the weight doesn't help with recoil though. Chuke had posted a video about accuracy vs stopping power comparing 9mm to 10mm, figured 40 was still a good compromise. >>61957846Good info thanks, the life was definitely a concern since most of the trade ins are gen4 now. It is slick, I almost bought it on the spot. Still open to 96s but had originally wanted an inox variant.>>61957882thanks
>>61957931Sure thing retardYou went back and counted every single thread and clearly we are at 1301.Fucking dolt.
>>61957924See >>61952456
>>61957940I don't know who did it, but he used a mantis system and shot a bunch of guns to look at the recoil tracking, he was consistently getting wierd side to side recoil with 40 and nothing else, across several platforms, where as everything else was tracking nearly perfectly up and down.
>>61957946Ah yes, fat lazy burt went and counted 1300 threads in the archive, of which not all of them even exist anymore, to get that figure.Chances are the real HG amount is far more than 1301
>>61957943>You went back and counted every single threadno retard. I remembered the fuck up. Its not hard to remember things when youre not a retard.
>>61957886>PriceToo much>QualityMIM Indian parts>Meme factorI guess shitty forced memes are still memes.
>>61957958.40 guns tend to be 9mm guns rechambered for a much more snappy/high pressure round, they are not pleasant. The only pleasant to shoot .40s are guns designed around the caliber which wasn’t the norm. I think the USP was, the PX4 (it’s in the name), and maybe something else. >>61957964I would trust Burt to watch my box of Crispy Crème donuts (hot and fresh) while I went to the bathroom over you. Especially a tourist like you.
Epic thread beretta spammer.
>>61957987Ah I remember, the S&W 4006 steel frames are pleasant to shoot. Even the smaller compact models as long as their steel frame.
>>61957995I keep asking for the “Breeding Gila Monster” pages. Come on man.
there are posters itt (in this thread) that find pugs attractive
Been watching The Shield lately. Kind of want a 4506 for that loose-canon detective larp.
>>61958013He carries a deagle in 357 in the last season. Great show btw. I won't ruin anything for you aside from Shane killing Lem
>>61958003
>6-8 week wait time for my 1911 frame and slidele pain
>>61958040The LEM trigger deserves to be fragged anyways
>>61958013They’re based and fit into a Beretta Brigadier holster, at least this JMCK Beretta “Super Duty” holster (M9A1 rail w/ brigadier slide). The linkless barrel design is superior to the linked barrel on the 1911, it’s a shame that it died since if S&W shilled it as a competition gun in the 2010s the S&W 3rd gen’s may have found a new lease on life as steel framed DA/SAs like the CZ Shadow 2. Crockett on Miami Vice uses a 4506 after the Bren Ten
>>61958040>I won't ruin anything for you aside from Shane killing LemI already knew that. Accidentally read that a few days back. I have to stop reading about the shows I watch.
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>>61958065
>>61957725>>61957751Ok but to be fair any centerfire handgun caliber that isn't 9mm costs at least as much as .38SPL. If you shoot .40, .45, or .380 you're paying 40 to 50 cents per round, and the price only goes up from there. So yes, compared to 9mm it's expensive but compared to anything else it's not.
>>61958073
> An American company important ingredient a Turkish made gun slapping the named of an 80 year old Canadian firearm company on itQuite the comment
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>>61958060>The linkless barrel design is superior to the linked barrel on the 1911, it’s a shame that it died since if S&W shilled it as a competition gun in the 2010s the S&W 3rd gen’s may have found a new lease on life as steel framed DA/SAs like the CZ Shadow 2.fuck me. I heard they used to be cheap. now theyre a grand. The list of guns I want is ever-growing.
>>61957934>garbage triggerI see you've never tried one. That's OK anon, maybe someday you'll get the chance.>>61958089Do you speak Inglis motherfucker?
>>61958045>>61958065>>61958073>>61958086>>61958095Thank you anon.
>>61958103>Do you speak Inglis motherfucker?W-what?
>>61958063Good decision. It's a show worth watching fresh. I somehow managed to avoid spoilers but they babyfaced Lem so hard that I was bummed when he was killed, and wanted to go ahead and save you the same fate. They did him dirty
>>61957553Got muh sp1, and Ill be honest anons... I like it more than a 92fs in almost ever way. It even takes 92 mags and parts. Trigger is way better, better ergos, super light shooting, and I prefer the frame safety. Only big con i can think of is the lack of a decocker and the fact that when the safety is on you cant manipulate the slide
>>61958125>when the safety is on you cant manipulate the slideBeretta frame safety variants are like that too.
>>61958099I saw one on Guns.com for like 789 with extra mags and stuff.
>>61957553Hey anons, I actually know of pp anon in real life. She is actually a he, and theyre a beaner. Theyre also a manlet and think that older=better because they used to collect nihonto and thats how it was with them. Also theyre extremely arrogant. Btw are those mantis x dry fire systems a meme
>>61958140Irrelevant samefaggin PP FtM.KYS
>>61958130I know, im just comparing it to the 92fs since it was released before beretta had any frame mounted safety variants of the 92f(yes i know the original 92 had a frame mounted safety)
>>61958140Fuck off tranny, you outed yourself, faking to be a different anon won't put that genie back in the bottle.
Is someone going to make an /hg/ approved tier list of brands? I assume Beretta will be at the top and Sig at the bottom. Where are our Steyrbros at?
>>61958216As bad as sig is, there are dozens of trash bottom barrel brands making far worse shit.
>>61958216here's your handgun tier list;owning a handgun > not owning a handgun >>> having strong opinions about handguns while not owning any
>>61958216Brandfaggery is mega lame. Good brands still make a few bad guns, bad brands still make a few good guns, and nothing matters as much as how well you can shoot an individual gun.
>>61958216Arex, any turkshit brand, any Brazilian brand, HS produkt, RIA, anything made in China, inching made in SE Asia, CZ, most anything made in Florida or NY, anything with inter, or intra in the name, charter arms, kahr arms, chiappa, pietta, or pretty much anything italian aside from beretta,is just some of the trash worse than sig(sig is shit though) people are just mad since sig was considered a premium brand not too long ago, and sig still markets themselves and prices at that premium level.
>>61957924Only spaghetti cumblaster OPs count towards the official numbering.
>>61957919The tardness is much stronger with sig
What is the best home defense handgun?>>61957946>>61958060>>61958107JAPANESE PANTY PORN!
>>61958305>JAPANESE PANTY PORN!PX4 panty raider when
>>61958308PX4 panty raider addition featuring an aluminum frame with replaceable grips and a factory optic cut.
>>61958308>>61958325PX4 panty raider goons again
>>61958353Comes with lube instead of grip tape, and some coomer anime engravings on the slide (dlc coated for quick clean up).
>>61958220having shit opinions about handguns while owning some is just as bad if not worse than not having any
>>61958240>Live in the middle of gun country, PA>Nobody anywhere has ever heard of Arex, let alone owns one I want to grab one but I want to at least finger fuck one first
>>61958372I kind of agree with you, but I think a lot of anons are retarded and don't know what they're talking about. It's more than likely you fall in the shit taste bin than you'd think.
>>61958136Are you sure about that?
>>61958386Was a few weeks ago sorry forgot to add that important fact
>>61958388was just memeing dawg. I'm not in a position to impulse anything. Thanks for the possible tip. Too many dickheads on here and not enough bros.
>>61958394Mags are impossible to find less than 100 dollars, so buying a gun with 1k but several mags you’ll come out ahead.
What is your favorite gun by a "bad" manufacturer and your least favorite gun by a "good" manufacturer
>>61958407duly noted. thanks Px4 bro!
>>61958440Kimber Micro 9 SapphireWalther PPK/S
>>61958440I think my favorite gun by "bad" manufacturer would be the .45 hi point pistol that I own. Honestly I don't really have a least favorite from a good manufacturer.
>>61958470Fuck I just thought of this one carry revolver that's got a shrouded hammer from smith and wesson. The fucking DA was atrocious.
>>61958460Wait, no there is several that are around 80 dollars. Its 1006 mags that are 200 dollars each
>>61958103>reading comprehension
>>61958530So you weren't saying the P220 SAO has a 'garbage trigger'?
>>61958533uh no I mocked you for not understanding the turkshit comment
>>61958546>not understanding the turkshit commentI made a weak joke about 'Inglis' that also happened to be a pulp fiction reference. This anon got it >>61958108 so you're looking pretty stupid right now.
>>61958562>so you're looking pretty stupid right now.hes probably just young.
What is your unicorn/holy grail?
>>61958729handgun or just in general?
Any of you have experience with this pistol carbine conversion kits? I have a glock 45 and was considering one of these kits. Does anyone have experience with or recommendations for any of these? $300-350 seems reasonable and then that would likely be my bedside gun, or are there issues with them that make going with a typical carbine more worth it? Pic related is the Recover Tactical P-IX, i had also seen the MCK micro conversion kit but i'm sure there are many others. I have a 9mm AR carbine but the thing jams a lot.
>>61958729guns like this, the Streetmaster especially. I think I can get something similarly made but it won't have the magic.
>>61958729Having sex with a female.
>>61958380My lgs has one of the poly framed ones but not the 226 clones, I like the trigger in it when I played with it. Burt has one and has talked about it basically said its good especially for the priced compared to a new 220 series
>>61958729
whats the most 80s gun I can EDC, has to be reasonably attainable and not shit
>>61958729Beretta pX4 storm
>>6195877292FS
>>61958733All this would achieve is to make your Glock worse, both as a gun generally and as a home defense weapon. Taking a pistol and making it larger, heavier, less reliable, and unable to be operated with one hand and laying $350 to do it. What are you thinking?
>>61958788>92FSThe wops destroyed this country, I won't be buying any of their products.
>>61958772S&W 3rd gen, 4516, 3913, 4016, etc. These are 90s guns but it's what people in the 80s would have carried if they were out. Detonic's Combat Master, the first subcompact .45, the first subcompact 1911, the first 1911 with a barrel length of 3.X inches, expensive gun in the 70s and 80s, double the cost of a 1911 at the time. Can be found for less than 1k, parts are unobtainable and people who own them and intend to shoot them own multiple. A guy near me has 5+. Most of the parts are 1911 standard parts, a few are proprietary. If you were into conceal carry in the 70s and 80s this was the hottest piece of hardware.
>>61958772Beretta 92 or Glock 17
>>61958817Don't worry, it's made in TN.
>>61958772Beretta 92FS and it isn't even close. The gun is virtually unchanged if not completely unchanged from when it was in every action movie you liked in the 80s.
>>61958825Detonic's Combat Master gives you 6+1 .45 ACP for the size a J frame revolver.
What is a handgun you don't own that if you saw someone at the range with it, youd ask if you could shoot it?
>>61958841It is legitimately unchanged. Outside of the modernization I have on mine and it now being US made it's the same as my dad's from the 80s.
>>61958809Is it really making it worse? Weight sure but i dont see how something like this MCK Micro Conversion Kit is making the gun any less reliable, and i am much better at shooting accurately with some kind of brace or stabilizer and just hand placement. It's no excuse and i need to practice with both my handguns more but they still seem nice to have and fun on the range. Ideally i would have a suppressed SBR 5.56 as my home defense but that gets much more costly. You could also definitely shoot this one handed, although i dont feel like there are a lot of situations in which youre shooting one handed and actually planning on landing shots.
>>61958867I can't wait for this trend to die. Just buy a used stribog and use it as a suppressor host. You don't need a fucking exoskeleton on your glock to fulfill whatever home defense fantasy you have.
>>61958867You're covering the ejection port, covering most of the slide with a housing prone to getting bullshit stuck inside it, making the gun harder to rack, bulkier, and just generally taking everything good about a pistol and shitting on it. These are stupid.If you want a PCC, get a PCC. There are plenty of reasonably priced options. These chassis are just an overpriced pile of future microplastics.
Speaking of the 92, I'm having a hell of a time trying to figure out a holster for it that would be compatible with safariland QL system. It seems that the best bet is to get an x300 for it and then try to find something like a Phlster which retains off the light?
>>61958892>stribogSo, spend 2-3x the money and get basically the same thing? >You don't need a fucking exoskeleton on your glock to fulfill whatever home defense fantasy you have.If the glock is my home defense gun why not just have it be better at that. It would also just be nice to have a carbine to shoot at the range as 9mm is way cheaper than 5.56>>61958895It was noted that it's going to dirty the glock more but that doesnt seem like that big of a deal, you just make sure you clean it and i cant imagine the wear and tear would be significant. I was looking at PSAs carbines but theyre way more expensive. I guess i could try to figure out the problem with the carbine i have but i have a feeling ill need to take it to a gun smith to do so so whatever that would end up costing seems more worth going to something id prefer instead of >>61957706 which is long and heavy and non-common mags.
>>61958928Dutygear? https://langdontactical.com/us-duty-gear-holsters-for-beretta-92/
>>61958930>basically the same thingNot even close.>If the glock is my home defense gun why not just have it be better at that?Because you're NOT making it better as a home defense gun. If you aren't good enough with a pistol to shoot accurately in rapid fire at 15 yards or less you need to train, and if you can't train you need to buy a 12g pump or just get rid of your guns entirely.
>>61958930>So, spend 2-3x the money and get basically the same thing?It's not the same thing at all, it's an actual pcc instead of chunks of plastic adding failure points to your glock. It sounds like your mind is made up, so by all means, buy it. Not sure why you even bothered to ask us
>>61958928Yeah either just get a Safariland holster or something like the floodlight. Also kydex holster manufacturers are a cottage industry now and there are a bunch of companies like Legacy Firearms that make custom kydex for guns with weapon lights even with QLS forks as standard.
Sig is going to release a Sig P226 RETRO.>ships out next week>not even accurate since this has milled steel and aluminum grips, not stamped steel and plastic grips>comes in shitty ass yellow 80s style box>booklet about the history of the 226 included>$1200https://youtu.be/njDNhBiQtw4?si=tIbSPF0zE9Zezmuz
>>61958733Something like a flux raider is a better execution of the pistol-based PDW, but you still basically get stuck with a shitty SBR. Chassis kits don't hold zero if you take the gun out, the flux doesn't have that problem.I'd rather have a short BRN-180 upper on a lower with a folding stock, and the NFA should be repealed.
>>61958928Safariland dipshit
>>61958733PSA jakl 10" 300bo pistol
>>61958961I could understand the milled slides since the stamping jigs probably don't exist anymore, but was the 226 ever sold with alloy grips?
>>61958961>$1200
Now I realize that while I have three Browning Hi-Powers, some of you out there may actually have a Browning Hi-Power of your own, and be thoroughly enjoying your purchase. But imagine how I must feel with three Browning Hi-Powers. I think you'll find that I am enjoying it three times as much.
>>61958948my mind is not made up, it wasnt really something i was considering until i saw the Henry survival rifle and mentioned it to a friend and he said he was thinking of getting their homesteader carbine and that lead me to maybe it would be better to just get something like this for a gun i already own instead of buying another one. Maybe use it for home defense or just for having cheaper fun at the range, or both. If these are just shitty chunks of plastic i wonder if i can find some STL files for something similar and just 3d print it. I would like to get the PSA in like a 4" or 8" and a folding brace but then i have to go through FFL and its just a lot bigger of a hassle, so i figured id see how these are and if i can save myself the time, trouble, and money. I also saw these folks >>61935249, >>61948469, and >>61933975 at /pccg/ that look like they had similar kits so i assumed they couldnt be too terrible but maybe i was wrong.
>>61958937That might be it. Thanks for linking.>>61958955>>61958968>Safariland holster itselfI was checking out a number of them but the only ones they have compatible any longer for Beretta are these four. No light and not dot capability.
>>61959000>no duty holsters for a gun no one carries for dutyMakes sense really
>>61959021I know sig is the military's hot shit right now but wasn't the Beretta the go to for a long time?
>>61959025Standard military wasn't buying from safariland for holsters.They were pretty rare among police departments, especially since safariland became the holster standard.
>>61959035Was standard military seriously using cloth holsters?
>>61958996I'm sure they're fun for a range toy, but they're worse in every single way compared to an actual pcc, and if you're actually considering using it for self defense purposes you're introducing potential points of failure to your handgun. You have a glock, even people that hate glocks don't pretend that they're unreliable firearms. They're the "end of the world" handgun in many minds. Don't put it inside a cuck cage and raise the potential for malfunctions in a scenario where you expect to be defending your life. I understand wanting to save money, avoiding a trip to the ffl, avoiding a $40 transfer fee, etc., but my advice is to take whatever money it would cost you to buy one for your glock, invest in a wml, and spend the rest on training and ammo. You don't need a carbine for home defense (are they more powerful/effective? Potentially sure), you just need to be able to put as many hollow points center mass as possible with your handgun.
>>61959039Government contracts go with the lowest bidder.
>>61957919Because you faggots spam the PX4 10x more than any sigger posts about their sigs, and can't take a hint of criticism. At least the siggers know they're legion fags.
>>61959039yeah because they work, units procured different holsters like some plastic drop leg stuff on a unit to unit basis. I see "USMC" Blackhawk serpa holsters on ebay, there was some other variant a few months ago being sold that was for the M6X light + M9A1. this is a perfectly fine holster. the large flap makes sure dust and debris do not get into the gun, even from rotor wash from a helicopter. https://www.ebay.com/itm/386933182017?
>>61959035Massive agencies like the LAPD had the 92 as a standard issue duty gun, what are you talking about?>>61959039>>61959044Yeah it was cloth and then nylon. Hard polymer hadn't developed as a duty-capable holster material until roughly the early 2000's. The only other real alternative before then was leather.
>>61959025Most people issued handguns in the military were people who had almost 0 use for a gun.
>>61959081Yeah that's true, but also picrel
>>61959064There have only ever been 5 police departments to issue it, LAPD only issued it for ~5 years before they allowed others to be carried, and only about 10 years total when LAPD could carry it at all.
>>61959042>wmlnot sure what this means. I do have a fair amount of ammo it's just a pretty long drive to go out shooting from where i am and i dont care for going to a normal range so usually just go out now and then and shoot for a couple hours. My buddy and i only just started getting better targets (like re-popup ones) and stuff. I'd like to be able to setup an actual pistol clearing course but thats a while off. My carry gun is a s&p shield in 9mm but im considering the same appendix holster for the glock 45 and using that instead. Having 8+1 and a 7 round mag isnt ideal but i liked how thin it was for carry purposes. I mostly bought the glock so i didnt have to reload as often when we go shooting.
>>61959128>he looked at the wikipedia page and first link on google to rebut meI hope you keep the research going so you can stop pulling things out of your ass
>>61959102I remember an anon who was handed a M9, a spare mag and a flashlight by his LT and crawled through Muslim catacombs alone, he only found a few fresh dead bodies, a laptop and some maps. I think he got a bronze star for it.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Najaf_(2004)He also probably would have served with or near the YouTuber Brett0311 who was also in that battle. Sort of a thing that has been living in my head. >>61959145Wml = weapon mounted light Lights act as counter weights on the muzzle making recoil more mild. They also light the dark.
>>61959145Wml is just short for "weapon mounted light". As far as training goes, I'd recommend watching videos on dry firing, buying some snap caps, and practicing dry firing at home as well as clearing malfunctions.
>>61959064The 92 was used very rarely by police, that doenst mean it wasn't used you fucking mong.
>>61959152Brett0331*
>>61959164Are you out of your fucking mind
>>61958961Is this something people want?
>>61959152>>61959163Ah got it, i edc a small flashlight so id consider using that in offhand in a home invasion situation but mounted light would be better. As far as dry firing goes how are those laser systems? When i do dry fire drills it doesnt seem like im doing anything wrong but i think i must just not be aiming right. Im absolutely terrible with irons though so maybe just getting a red dot for the glock at least would be worth it.
>>61959145WML stands for Will Meet Ladyboys. Like the one that keeps posting its Colt 1908 in the thread.
>>61959171Dry fire is something you can do for free, why spend money to do it beyond a snap cap or used case? >terrible with irons Maybe try getting a dot, dots aren’t magic and take a skill to use effectively but they add so much ways you can train. The dot is where the bullet goes so if you dry fire you can keep track of the barrel when you pull the trigger with much more precision than dry firing with irons. “Presentation” drills where you bring the gun up to a firing position, a red dot is harder to present so you need to train harder to be able to do it, making both your iron and dot shooting better.
>>61959171There are laser systems that work well (mantis seems to be popular) but knowing what to look for is free. One of the goals of dry firing is to hammer into your mind and body the form required to make a bullet impact where you're looking. You can do this by drawing from low ready, aiming at a target (or light switch, whatever) then adjusting your eyes to your sights to see where you were actually aiming. Make a slight adjustment until they're lined up, try to remember how it "felt", and do it again. Over and over. Eventually you'll naturally be aiming exactly where your eyes are focused. Then you can focus on training out flinching and other bad habits
>>61959182She stays subdued usually until the thread is near bump limit, then she starts attentionwhoring.
>>61958357obviously it would also be FDE cerakote, have blue/white pantsu style striped g10 grips and tritium night sights
>>61958961YOU VILL GUNSOOM
>>61958357>>61958353>>61958325>>61958308I emailed LTT about it today, I wonder what they say.
>>61958964This has the same vibes as a riced out Honda Civic.>>61959145>wmlIt stands for WAGMI MAGA LMAO.
>>61958060>it’s a shame that it died since if S&W shilled it as a competition gun in the 2010The 745/845 existed alongside the S&W 45s as their competition guns with the 945 essentially LARPing as a 1911 before S&W simply threw in the towel and just started making 1911s instead.
Babe wake up. New 15 minute video of Ben talking about red dots just dropped.
>>61959262Damn, she really hit the wall.
>>61959286I don’t see handguns
Christ this thing is a fucking unit. Fills my whole hand and actually feels like a pistol whip would hurt from it. Can't wait to shoot it this weekend.Is there any way to increase the size of this mag release? It's small but needs a good amount of pressure to release and it's wearing away my thumb skin
>>61957553anon, why do you own so many px4s? its unironically the most retarded collection i see on /hg/
What's a good price for a 9mm p2000?
>>61959380Anything under $600.
>>61959380$500 but the P2000 really sucks
>>61959426What sucks about it? I was thinking of getting one?
>>61959436It looks goofy and has the worst trigger of all H&Ks
>>61959449I think it looks cool. Can triggers always be tinkered with for not too much effort? Plop in a different spring, different reset bar, etc.
>>61959462I think the closest thing you can do is the gray guns short reset trigger bar, I think they make a P2000 version Hammer spring can be changed maybe. I don’t own one, I own a USP and uh fuck that thing >>61959380USP-S is better unless you need to spam through smokes
>>61959472Yeah, I was thinking of getting a P2000 LEM ans doing the Gray Guns short reset system. Seem like it'd be cool and I don't have any LEM/DAO guns.
>>61959489Yes, buy it already LEM. I cannot tell you how much the USP conversion pains me, the P2000 is probably easier I hope but just get it already like that.
>>61959425Where the fuck you finding a new 9mm p2000 for under $600?>>61959426Why does it suck?>>61959449It looks awesome>>61959472USP more expensive
>read the guide and pastebinI feel loaded with knowledge.
>>61959572What kind of handgun you gonna get newfriend?
>>61958961> couple hundred dollars more than a new model, the enhanced model, or the LEH GUN modelsShiggy
>>61958961>$1200Wow, twice as much as it should be!
>>61959380My shitty one in 40 was 500 but also came with 6 mags and a case
>>61959611Pic, hoping I made the right call. I also bought a few hundred rounds to practice at the range. Still need to buy ear and eye protection.
>>61959643>ear[...]protectionPSA has Peltor Comtacs on sale for nearly 50% offhttps://palmettostatearmory.com/peltor-comtac-v-hearing-defender-headset-adult-23-20-22-db-coyote-brown-mt20h682fb09cy.html
>>61959643>>61959692You do not need fucking 400 dollar headphones.Get Walker Razor PASSIVE (no electronics), they have a higher dB rating than those Peltor Comtacs while being 5% the price. And the get gelcups for them off Amazon to replace the ear pieces for more comfort/sound reduction.
>>61959692Shit I just paid double that for two pairs of the single lead comms version, looking forward to them. That's a great price.
>>61959700>passive muffsHow do those Walkers compare to an even cheaper set of hardware store 3M muffs?>>61959643PS no matter what you end up getting, if you're shooting indoors ALWAYS wear earplugs under your muffs; it's the only way to fly.
>>61959700I intend to buy passive.>>61959730>ALWAYS wear earplugs under your muffs;Undoubtedly. I still regret the damage caused from blasting music in my ears as a teenager for hours on end. I don't want to exacerbate hearing loss. Freaked the fuck out for over a week when a relative's friend accidentally discharged a simple rifle into the ground when I was beside him. Couldn't hear out of my left ear for half the day.
>>61959330BROTHER. I haven't found a way either, mine came with the Hogue finger mold grip and trying to reach the mag release was a bitch so I swapped the grips out and it's still kinda hard to push without shifting my grip.
>>61959643If you are serious about carrying its alright
>>61958964>el-px4gsd>ernieinasombrero.jpg
>>61958964you can see where the budget ran out
>>61958766Why do you post healthy food on hg? Wanna crash the matrix?
>>61957720.38 special goes for about 40 cents a round and .357 goes for about 50 cents a round. you can't really get cheaper than that, 25 acp goes for about 35 cpr>>61957725>when the election panic comeswhat's up with literally every single boomer desperate to uphold the irrelevant reality of a dying authority? for fucks sake, man. it's three months away from the election, there isn't going to be a panic. ammo is cheaper now than it was last november
>>61960733Please tell me where you’re seeing .40cpr .38. It’s become the most overpriced round for me locally and even online prices I have seen are closer to .55cpr for basic fmj. >there isn't going to be a panic. ammo is cheaper now than it was last novemberYes there will be a panic, especially if people think Biden has a shot at reelection. Ammo prices won’t go up, but a lot of bulk ammo will be out of stock. It will bounce back fast for 9mm, 5.56, .22lr, etc. but .38 is now part of the lower tier of priority for manufacturers and the high end of priority for the kind of dumbfucks who cause a rush on range ammo every time an election that changes nothing occurs.
>>61960041>>61959330its a button you push forward not a button you press inwards. if its hard to push forward, you might have to take it apart and clean it.
>>61958930you're not spending that much more, so being hyperbolic. your thinking is that the Glock has x cost and the abomination you clamp it inside of costs y and only consider the y value as the cost of a PCC. you need to add them both together you disingenuous cunt. new Glock+new chassis= ~$1000. That's more than enough to get an actual pcc. A B&T ghm 9 with a Glock lower can be had for s couple hundred more. ffs, you can get a s2k for 600 and still have mag compatibility. Chassis systems are literally the worst option.
Why not just buy a shotgun for $200 and use that for home defense instead of wanting your handgun to do literally everything everywhere at all times?
>>61960779...do you use ammoseek? cmon manhttps://ammoseek.com/ammo/38-special?sh=averagei've bought from prepper gun shop before, they do like $10 flat rate shipping. this is also cheaper than 38 special was about a year ago because i was looking for ammo and the only things cheaper than 55 cpr was remanufactured.i am not saying this to be disrespectful but you really need to ignore what boomers say about this stuff because they're brainwashed and don't realize it. ammo goes out of stock because people buy it, retailers can only keep so much in stock, and post-covid they keep less things in inventory to manipulate you into buying more of it. the local bass pro has been completely fuckin empty and i can sure as shit tell you it's not because they can't get their hands on the ammo, it's so they can mark it up 40%
>>61960827Because buying one handgun that does literally everything at all times is cheaper than buying multiple firearms. Also shotguns are retarded for HD.
>>61960839Having a shotgun in your closet is easier than investing in a WML and a WML holster and carrying that shit every day.
>>61959499But I'm the anon who has tools and isn't a big baby and had no issues swapping trigger springs on my VP9.
>>61959626>40Well that's why it cost so much less. Nobody I'd buying .40 cal handguns these days.
>>61960836>ammoseekYeah I look on there to see what prices are like, but I don’t know which retailers to trust (not freedom munitions) and have to sort through all the reman and buy a reasonable amount (I’m not shooting enough to drop $400 on 1k rounds right now even if it is a good deal per round). Basically I’m a lazy fuck and it’s easier to just stop by the lgs on the way home from work, pick up a box of 50 and overpay for the convenience. But thanks for the tip on that flat rate shipping.
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>>61957639are you trying to be the overwhites poster of /hg/?
>>61961045He will never have her curves
>>61960827A shotgun for 200 I cannot carry to work, I cannot conceal it in a t shirt easily, they’re also harder to pose for photo graphs
>>61960827because less lethal ammo is legally dangerous for the user
>>61961125He said nothing about that, load OO buck always
>>61961136>He said nothing about thatok but I did. and its the only reason why id use a shotgun for HD
>>61961144You don’t want to do this?
>>61959643the hellcat is a fine pistol, its my daily carry, i like the feel of the p365 better but a better shot with the hci went with howard leight earmuffs so i can talk with my kids at the range, they are on amazon for around $50
>>61959730Walkers are slim, clearly labeled dB/NRR rating, it’s your hearing man
>>61957650I too love getting told what to think by a Wendy's cashier
>>61959730>an even cheaper set of hardware store 3M muffsIt's hilarious to me that people will spend thousands on guns and accessories, but want to pinch pennies when it comes to not losing an eye or living with tinnitus for the rest of their lives. Save $5 a day for 10 days and you can afford a decent set of muffs.
https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?IncludeSellers=582576Does this seller set off red flags for anyone else? Plenty of rep but really basic description.
>>61961245>FFL>thousands of transactions Nope.Why waste time writing descriptions? People who know already know, call them up or message them if you have any real questions.
>>61961245zamn that grizzly seems like a good deal. cool engraving too
>>61961288Yeah lol that's what I was looking at, I won't be mad if someone here grabs it, it's a little higher than going price but I like the engraving and the fact it was clearly someone else's gun
>>61960827I love shotguns but personally I think it’s trashy and risky to leave loaded guns around and biometric pistol safes have tidier footprint.
>>61961326>I love shotguns but personally I think it’s trashy and risky to leave loaded guns aroundtake responsibility for the psychic damage you've caused most of /k/ with this statement
>>61961326Oozing your hatred of America right here
>>61961340I do, it’s on me. I’m sorry I had to say it…>>61961346I love America but I don’t love giving burglars free loaded guns.
>>61961374The purpose of the loaded gun is to shoot the burglar you fucking nonce. or whatever it is you brits call each other.
>>61961385Burglars prefer to break into unoccupied homes.
>>61961385>you fucking nonce. or whatever it is you brits call each other.stop being retarded, you're taking offense at someone saying its trashy to leave loaded guns lying around. a shotgun propped against the wall of your bedroom is not a sign of virility.
>>61961390>Burglars prefer to break into unoccupied homes.Where guns are legal, that is.
>>61961397>reddit spacer telling others to stop being retardedlol lmfao
This last range session I went just to have fun. The target was out 7 yards and most of it was me just shooting fast for fun. The ones in the head box was me actually trying. Was done with a factory glock 17. Historically, I used to shoot glocks horribly. All low left. I feel confident with a glock now.
>>61961399Yeah, and probably where they’re not as well. It’s a loaded firearm that you don’t have positive possession of. If it gets boosted or used against you it’s entirely your fault.
>>61961390>prefer toThose types of burglars long do not exist. The current ones want to break into occupied homes because they want to rape and murder before they steal your possessions.
>>61960846I can't carry a shotgun over my shoulder all day as I work. Not sure if I would want to either.They're also not as good at HD as people think either. They're really long. Most homes have doorways in corner of a room. As an example, we'll say the door is on the East wall, Northeast corner. You can see the Northwest and Southwest corners without entering the room. You can't see the Southeast corner, which shares a wall with the door. You need to check that corner, which means getting your gun pointed at a potential intruder there.There's three ways to do it with an overlength gun:>Have it in a ready position as you strafe through the doorway and raise it as you cross the threshold>Have it shouldered and aim forward as you cross the threshold, then sweep left so you can put the muzzle on the blind corner>Short-stock the shotgun to effectively reduce overall length, which can work but means you are trying to aim the thing in an unfamiliar way and if it's an inertia shotgun could potentially cause a malfunctionOr you just use a handgun, AR pistol, or SBR for your home defense gun and avoid all this nonsense.
>>61961326Man people really fall for this bait
>>61961418>probably where they’re not as well.What aboot Canada? I leave my keys at the front of my house and they still break in with scary assault weapons of war. They're loaded and willing to use em ey.
>>61961435>burglary no longer exists in a world of expensive electronics and valuablesFirearms are enough of a target for burglars that their theft is sub-limited on homeowners insurance policies. I know a guy that got cleaned out, even in a nice town. If you want to maintain the delusional belief that the only threat to your property is a siege by gay rapists while you conveniently are at home then go right ahead, I’ll keep taking a more realistic approach.
>>61961451explain how its bait. it is objectively trashy to have loaded guns lying around your house. he isn't saying its illegal or should be illegal, he is saying it looks bad, which is true. you aren't the punisher, clean up your toys.
>>61961472>>burglary no longer exists in a world of expensive electronics and valuablesWho are you quoting?
>>61961219Motherfuckers ITT are the white man equivalent of Tyrone financing a scat pack, people are broke as shit.
>>61961219>>61961593theres also a bit of 'i buy the least operator thing to stand out as a not-tryhard' ism.
>>61961607Those people should be drawn and quartered
>>61961607Imagine if there was something in between buying $600 ear pro to look like a professional at a static range and using the equivalent of cotton balls in your ears because you think 50 bucks is too expensive
>>61960801>Glock+new chassis= ~$1000. That's more than enough to get an actual pccMy glock 45 was $700, and i already own it. So no i dont have to factor that in because i wouldnt be buying a second glock retard.
>>61961607No one is going to look at a pair of $40 walker slims and assume you're trying to larp. I'd say 90% of people at both of the ranges I frequent use walkers, and that's because they're essentially the cheapest thing you can get that still provide decent performance. Also, who cares what other people think? You probably didn't even know they existed until you saw them for the first time. Their opinion didn't matter before then, why does it matter now?
>>61960786It would still be nicer to get even .2mm more width on it, all that force on one point is irritating >>61960041Yeah no matter how you slice it, the grip is too long across to hit the release without adjusting the gun. These things might have been made for basketball players
i want it bros
>>61961008you can filter out those things and just look for outlets with decent shipping. anything with an 8 or 9 rating will have like $15 flat rate shipping. if you buy 10 boxes of ammo you just add a $1.50 to the price per box. for 9mm and 22 you're probably just gonna end up paying what a local gun store is charging. however, i've never seen 25 acp cheaper than $35 a box in person. they msrp for like $18 lol
95% of the people at my ranges have some kind of 40-150 dollar electronic earpro setup. Most people prefer in between Sordins/Peltors or the cheapest most uncomfortable 3Ms for mexican contractors.
my ear pro is from harbor freight :-/
>>61961931foams + impact sport is perfect for indoor/heavy shooting.
>>61961959I can sell you earmor if you want.
>>61961931You can shoot a SCAR 17 just fine indoors with foams and something like Walker Razor Slims or Howard LeightI was thinking of getting Otto Noizebarriers. They have a NRR rating of 28DB with the foam tips or 23DB with the other 3 flange ones
>Nearing July 4th>can't find any sales on lights yet>or anything good really
>>61962080>I'm not seeing any sales for a day that's still an entire week away
>>61962145You new or something? The new hotness is to have holiday sales almost a month in advance.
>>61962080I've my fingers crossed for optics, I just want a dot cheap enough to dick around with and not worry about but not so cheap and Chinese it's not actually usable. PSA has the Romeo Zero 3 for $80 and the CTS-1250 for $70, I'm on the fence about jumping on one or waiting to see what else goes on sale over the next week.
Where did all the 20rnd and really any 15-30 Rnd mags go? I only see 15s and 30s all the 17s and 20s disappeared.>>61962080Chrome shelled should have had more seasons wleven with how much the anime fucked it up.
>>61962213For m9/92 I mean.
>>61962213Are you looking for mecgars? Mecgars do those better than beretta OEM style. The beretta 20 rounder was discontinued a long time ago
>>61962238The mec gar is out of stock except for the "competition" one 30rnd is unwieldy these .
>>61961634>not buying a second Glock1 is none my freedom hating friend
>>61962262Have you checked gun mag warehouse You can just buy the 18 rounder and then buy +4 extensions that are roughly the same size as the MecGar +2
>>61962267my carry pistol is a m&p shield, so i do have 2 just not 2 glocks
>>61961931What if I don't want electronic?
I did the math. I shoot 19~22k rounds of 9mm a year if I’m true to my word going every week.
>>61962270Ill pickup the promag 20 and the mecgar 18 with the +4. Thanks. Idk how bad the promags are but I have some 10rnd mec gara that were good that I got free.
>>6196254410 round mecgars? Are they pinned? It’s the same mag body and follower if so, then you can just drill out the pin and get 18 rounds.
>>61962524Shooting 8 boxes a week seems excessive, anon. Good job.
>>61962524You buying a case every other week?
>>61962546What do you mean by pinned? I can post an image when i get home.
>>61962562Pinned wasn’t the right word, it’s a little dimple in the side of the mag body, like 1/4 inch large, that prevents more than 10 rounds from being loaded. Otherwise it’s a completely normal magazine. Pinned refers more to its a normal mag with a pin or dimple preventing more than X amount loaded.
>>61961340>>61961346>>61961451this is the exact type of low class crab-in-pot attitude this guy is talking about. personally - i think biometric safes are retarded but the reality is people feel like they need to have ready access to firearms in situations where they have kids or retard roommates that will poke around in their shit.it's an obvious motte-and-bailey where you can posture LOL WHO DOESNT KEEP ALL THEIR GUNS LOADED as many times as you want until someone's retard kid shoots themselves with it, then you can just say LOL HE SHOULDN'T HAVE KEPT IT LOADED i think this might be some weird generational attitude or something people refuse to re-assess because my grandpa has this mindset that "if he has to go get it, it better have ammo in it." except he has a dozen guns all through the house and like five of them in a closet. there's no possible good that can come of it
>>61962080Replying to myself, Bereli has a deal. X300T for 230 if anyone else wants.
>>61962645Retarded kids who treat actual guns like Nerf guns deserve to die, and parents who don't train their kids in proper gun safety deserve to have their genetic legacy extinguished by their folly.
since pp anon is so shit, I don't mind sharing my very meh groups at 15. these are with my smith 439
>>61962645Its called living alone anon, not everyone has adult roommates (yikes) or kids in a house with guns without a safe (double yikes).
>>61962645If your kid is retarded, then that is your problem. Make the kid un-retarded. If you have room mates, that's doubly your problem. Make them un-roommates or tell them to not poke in your shit. Life comes at you fast, fagboy. You either be ready or learn the hard way.
>>61962645Why are biometric safes retarded?>>61962661Even if your kids are perfectly safe and perfectly responsible (they’re still children, though) but you can’t account for their retarded friends or how good of parents their friends have. And as I said, a gun outside of a safe is a free gun for a burglar. Why do people in this thread recognize that they need a gun in case someone breaks in while they’re home, but assume no one could ever break in while they aren’t home?
>>61962688Uh oh looking here someone who bought a biometric safe
>>61962688They can be really fucking stupid. Every time I see one demonstrated in person, they fumble with it for 30 seconds before getting it open, or they give up and go get their key to override it. Last time I was with a girl with a bedside safe, she tried to open it and show me her Sig, but her internet was down so it went into anti-tamper mode when she tried, and she had to call the fucking company to get an override code because she couldn't find the key and hadn't set up her own backup code. For storing shit, having a gunsafe with a thumbprint reader on it, whatever that's fine, but for an accessible "bedside" safe oh hell no, useless trash.
>>61962711Or that safe that got recalled because the finger print scanner opened the safe to anyone who had a finger
>>61962728I was actually wondering if that gay plastic thing that was shilled on Mike's last video might be "worth it".
>>61962695Yeah I use a regular safe for the bulk of my guns and a small quick access biometric safe for my loaded HD gun. It’s a good compromise.>>61962711I haven’t had that problem but mine’s not that complicated. I’d be fine with a quick passcode safe as well, the point is to have something that opens quickly without a key and is still some attempt to keep the gun out of the wrong hands.
>>61958125It's pretty amazing that Vektor were able to not only duplicate a Beretta 92F just by comprehensively measuring and copying it (something at which nonwhite thirdies are notoriously terrible), but did it without TDPs, machines, tooling or help from Beretta (unlike Stoeger and Taurus, both known for lesser quality despite every possible aid being dropped in their laps). Yet Vektor were able to surpass Beretta quality, in Africa. Makes you think. The SP1 is a VERY impressive bit of engineering and a cool story bro. Jelly, I need one.
>>61962779>knot grip
Anyone know of a good place to find duty light bearing holster for the SP-01 I’m having trouble tracking down one
>>61962865Please stop posting sexy CZs, I have already bought four handguns this year and I do not have a CZ.
>>61962865Legacy Firearms Co, not sure how much they have for duty
I have received my $38 Hi-Point CF380, came with 2 mags and a thick layer of grime. I opted out of taking the frame, it was already disassembled and I wasn't planning to use it, so we skipped the paperwork and I just bought the parts. I'm 3D printing a cash-green frame for it, I'm designing some fun grips to make for it, and I already ordered a can of gold spraypaint from Amazon. Step 1, I put the slide on a stone and flattened the sides, they were smooth but not remotely flat before, disgusting. Now it's soaking to strip the powder coating off. I'm out of aircraft stripper and feeling lazy so it's soaking in acetone, which is good enough. I've selected a $2 flashlight I'm going to paint gold to match the slide and attach as a wml. I still don't know what to do for optics. I really want a fuck-huge red dot on it but I'm trying to keep my total budget for the project under $70, and I'm already in for $50. I guess I can do a Chinese airsoft red dot, but I know it won't actually be usable. Recommendations for a shit-tier sight of any variety? Something that fits the theme of being spraypainted garbage.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1054369878
>>61962887Instead of a red dot, pull a laser from a Blu-ray player and build a home brew LAM with a 3D printed housing.
>>61962878I glad you like it’s a amazing gun and it has a great aftermarket too
>>61962887>>61962900J'quarius the Junk Orc pistol build
>>61962900I actually have a bag of laser diodes, I make laser pointers from disposable e-cigs, usually give them away as gifts. I can build the flashlight into a printed housing that also holds a laser too. Still, it'll leave the slide bare. I guess I could make a laser that sits on top, then there'll be two lasers that shift with every shot.
>>61958219>>61958220>>61958238>>61958372>>61958382I'm so proud of you guys>>61958729Any of the numerous Walther prototypes, especially models that didn't make it to production like the PP90 or Volkespistole>>61959380>>61959462The trigger is not that bad, it's just not good is all. It's the same trigger as a P30 or on balance about the same as a USP (better DA but worse SA). Go try any of those if you can't try a P2000.You used to be able to get used P2000s in the low $400s everywhere or for $600 new. Now $550 is probably not unreasonable for a used one and they're more like low $700s new which I guess is not that bad after 5 years of bidenflation and HK price hiking. Talking about 9mm of course, not that .40 garboAnyway here's the cheapest one I found both under $700. V2 is heavy LEM, you can change that to V1 (light LEM) with a couple of inexpensive springshttps://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/81000041V3 is DA/SA with decockerhttps://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/81000037
>>61962662Officially better than pp anon
>>61962951a low bar, to be sure
>>61962951You don't know at what speed, or with what kind of grip
>>61963005True but I wouldnt sweep for the twink
>>61963005Using a one handed grip was his(?) decision. One handed shouldn’t change slow fire groups that much, your fundamentals don’t change from one hand to two hand, or that’s just me, I think using your support hand to counter act your trigger press to be a complete meme and counter productive. Speed? She(?) could have always just posted slow fire groups and not embarrass themselves using every bit of that target. They should stop trying stupid fucking one handed drills they read about from the 1930s and just train the fundamentals.
>>61962945Thanks for the good info Burt. I'm huge HKfag and I think I might buy an P2000 soon. I want the V2 LEM so I can fiddle with the trigger a bit and make it nicer. However, I'm also the ODG HKfag who already has a green USP, USP Tactical, and VP9 Tactical/Match slide and barrel. The issue with the ODG P2000 is it's only a V3, and even if I converted it to V0, it'd still have the spurred hammer and decocker button, which kinda detracts from the smooth and clean aesthetic of the LEM/V2 (and as an HKfag, clearly aesthetics are all I car about). If I don't want decide what to buy soon, I'll probably just kill myself, but then I'd be a similar conundrum of decided which neat HK to an hero with and I'd come right back here to complain/question.
New>>61963107>>61963107
>>61963005for me it was around 1 shot every 1 second, weaver stance. the range I use has had its pistol range under construction for about 6 months now, so I haven't been able to shoot pistols at a distance under 25 yards for a while.
