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Summary
>>62871764

Audio Instruction
https://files.catbox.moe/2r9hlo.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/ezsc1j.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/044awo.mp3
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New Jimmy B Rodriguez video is up!
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>>62892630
This list is really not well thought out
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>>62892641
How so?
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>>62892641
Shhhh, I get to see my old gun in the low tier spot every time it gets posted
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They're evolving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1ObEabjLBg
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Thinking of offloading the 20” dd16” and the 10.5
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>>62892630
"our standard" for safe queens, kek faggots
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>>62892661
Dontavious Defense is now for the blacks
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>>62892679
Tell me your rifle got left out of the infographic without telling me your rifle got left out of the infographic.
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>>62892650
man i hope those groups are from standing and not prone or in a seated/prone supported position
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I'm new to rifles, can someone explain zeroing iron sights and then optics to me like I'm a total retard.
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>>62892691
50 or 36 yards

Pick one
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>>62892686
200y, AAC 77gr, magazine rest and a g33 I think I'm fine
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>>62892650
>acog in mid tier
>acog in high tier
>surefire 640 in mid tier
>surefire 640 in high tier
>RIS 2 in mid tier
>RIS 3 in high tier
>screenshot of a2 saying 14.5s shouldn’t exist
>multiple 14.5s in high tier
>the low tier rifle example is more kitted out than the mids
>FSP gizmo maxxing is high tier
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>>62892679
>his rifle didn't make the cut
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>>62892693
Okay 50 yards, what would be the difference?
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>>62892684
>>62892707
the lpvo with piggyback is the cherry on top. noshoots faggots
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>>62892710
POA/POI
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>>62892707
>>62892684
ah dang i wish my rifle could be up there next to a tranny and a furry's gun
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>>62892722
So I can make them match at either 36 yards or 50 yards?
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640 is a treat. Gonna get a lot of coyotes this year!
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lol they'll be feeling that burn tomorrow
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>>62892735
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>>62892735
Just look it up.
Go with either one it doesn’t matter because BUIS don’t matter and you can’t see far enough to make a shot where the differences start to matter
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>>62892702
>screenshot of a2 saying 14.5s shouldn’t exist
To be fair those were added by somebody else later
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>>62892752
I thought 14.5s were the ideal spr length?
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>>62892702
That's how annotation works
>>62892711

>>62892711
That which can be asserted without AR pics can be disregarded without AR pics

>>62892727
>sarcasm
Here you go, I kept this for you
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>>62892702
clearly made by an autist with no firsthand experience on the subject matter
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KC's "low tier" example is really kino tho
https://youtu.be/fe6YO4KNbJk?feature=shared
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>>62892691
Step 1. Go on YouTube
Step 2. Type in “how to zero irons”
Step 3. Watch video and follow instructions
Step 4. Repeat steps 1-3 but replace the word “irons” with “scope”
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>>62892772
I should recreate it with better parts some day
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>>62892759
The context of that graphic is for a generalist rifle though.
Personally I just like my 14.5
Being able to have a comfortable grip and fit my gizmos is nice.
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Fix'd
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>>62892840
I bow
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>>62892840
Kinda sucks
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>>62892850
Sounds like you haven't shot this week anon, why don't you stop being a bitch and go train?
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>>62892840
No
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>>62892840
THIS GUY takes his pants all the way off to masturbate
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>>62892868
Hell yeah, my house, my rules.
>>62892865
Yes
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>>62892868
What kind of a retard goons with his pants on?
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>>62892857
This week? I haven't shot an AR15 since August 18th
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>>62892870
You’re trying to hard and forcing the whole “it doesn’t matter just shoot” thing when it does in fact matter.
There’s guns that are dog shit and there’s optics, nylon, etc that are dog shit.
That is not mutually exclusive to how much you shoot the gun aside from if you short it zero because then it obviously doesn’t matter at all.
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>>62892880
Around the ankles
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>>62892750
You can easily make shots at 300+ with irons you fucking scrub
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>>62892886
Sounds like some coping about never shooting. Who is more lethal, the anon with a poverty pony and a chink red dot that shoots for an hour every weekend or the the anon with a gucci rifle/optic/laser combo that shoots a few times a year?
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>>62892840
We've seen /pfg/'s rifles and we aren't impressed.
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>>62892907
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>>62892840
Extremely reddit
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>>62892916
>everything i disagree with is reddit
Similar to other low-iq responses such as "that's racist"
>>62892912
>we
That's not how any of this works, retard
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>>62892921
>Smarmy faggot tone
>Erm I'm talking down to you right now sweaty
>bitch bitch bitch
>Walls of text that convey zero useful information
>/ARG/
You're a fucking nigger and you should kill yourself
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>>62892907
I went shooting Monday and I’m scheduled to go again later this week. Thanks for your concern.
You once again are missing the entire point that it’s not an either/or scenario and you can have a quality rifle and shoot it too.
I can also almost promise you that the guy with a chinkslop build isn’t shooting $150 worth of ammo every week.I don’t know what year you think this is or when the last time you bought ammo was but I wouldn’t exactly say it’s cheap.
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Damn MSFS 2024 has been fucked all day.
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What is an acceptable quad rail other than DD or KAC?

Why has arg gone to absolute shit in the last 4 years?
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>>62892930
Damn, you take shit like that personally? It's /ARG/, literally go outside and touch grass. Did mommy not make you tendies?
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>>62892840
Among people I’ve actually met irl there is a correlation between the quality of rifle and how often people shoot (the nicer the rifle the more often). I’ve known a few outliers but people who get cheap rifles and shoot a lot end up just getting nicer rifles anyways. People who buy nicer rifles and never shoot always just sell their rifle, and people who buy cheap rifles and don’t shoot them end up just leaving them in their closet so I guess that’s an advantage.
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>>62892942
>Hey guys I want to buy an AR15, what's considered good so I don't waste my money?
>Uh so how about you just go shoot your rifle? I actually shoot my rifle, unlike all of the other loser virgins who don't go outside. Yeah I'm pretty much above it all heh.
100% chance that you're a rape victim.
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>>62892941
LaRue has one of the best
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>>62892944
IME it's actually the opposite. The guys I shoot with are using "low tier" ar's with $300 vortex's or a holosun. One has a t2 and a surefire.
>>62892952
Learn to read, nigger
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>>62892973
Sorry you got raped I hope it happens again
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I hate my handguard but I don't have nods or a LAM to justify wasting money on a drippier one. But then I can't post it on here because they will make fun of me
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>>62892979
>more literal mind diarrhea from a sperg
Very enthralling anon, you are soooo unique and creative!
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>>62892988
No one cares.
As long as your shit isn’t set up completely retarded people probably won’t say anything at all.
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>>62892997
Spoken like a true rape victim
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>>62892973
It's a mixed bag. You use what you have and improve what you can afford to when you can afford to. I know all of the above. Poorfag who get the top of line AR and gear so they buy once, cry once maxing our credit cards, richfags that buy the meta, pay someone to zero it, then forget about it. Poorfags that waste money on garbage, and richfags that waste money on Davidson defense and irons and consider it good enough to save his family. I don't think you can ascribe a moral value to wealth
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>>62892941
I'm sure BCM is fine. Don't like how they look though.
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>>62892998
Actually any time I post my AR the spergs sperg out
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>>62893013
>Erm I have a rifle but I don't want to post it
Nobody cares
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>>62893018
No actually I like posting it but I hate my handguard but can't justify buying one because I don't have NODs or a LAM. Are you ESL or something?
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>>62893006
> I don't think you can ascribe a moral value to wealth
Spot on, anon. Spot on. You just can't buy experience or knowledge, which is worth more than a pallet of 416's.
>>62893000
Good talk, anon
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>>62892944
Completely agree. Since ammo prices have gone up it's even more apparent. I used to see shitrods at the range plinking. Not anymore. It's always DD or equivalent and thoughtfully outfitted.
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>>62893025
Nobody cares
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>>62893028
>You just can't buy experience or knowledge
Tell that to my stack of combat manuals and war memoirs I pick up in secondhand bookstores and on thrift books.
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>>62893035
and we can thank God for that!
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>>62892944
The guys that I know with shitrod PSA's never fucking shoot and are afraid to dip into their 500 count .223 stash. Poorfags have this fantasy that they're totally justified buying a sack of shoot because they totally have the potential to spend that money on le training! Just like Mr.Guntuber said!
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>>62892796
Nah, fuggin choot it boy
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>>62893044
then there's people like me that put 300 rounds through the PSA upper just to test it after taking it apart to gauge it. I could extrapolate that there are other wisefags carefully getting the mileage out of everything they buy in terms of data points or accept that it's all anecdotal
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>>62893049
I sold it to a noguns I work with who wants to paint it flat black
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>>62893052
There might be a very small number of voluntary poorfags who can use that kind of excuse but the majority of them are just riding on the back of the actual autists to justify buying dogshit.
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>>62893056
Oh, damn lmao pearls before swine
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>>62893057
Oh for sure, but I'd wager there's also plenty of rich fags that are equally languid richfags that assume the quality of their gear alone will save them
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>>62892641
Well, a deranged trip obsessed tranny made it, so yeah
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>>62893070
In the same vein that there are tons of dudes driving around lifted F250s just to commute 20 minutes every day, sure. But we can probably safely assume that the majority of people who own one probably actually know what they're doing with it.
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Meh, some people just aren't there yet. I know a guy whos a pretty good uspsa shooter, and has good stuff with a lot of rounds.
He's new to rifles, and was super proud of his new swampfox (gift). I'm sure there'll be time to set him straight
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>>62892934
see >>62892940
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>>62893106
The reason ash is always buying and selling gear is because he uses it so hard that he racks up enough miles to justify replacements
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>>62893097
Yeah most people aren’t going to do autistic deep dives to figure out what’s actually good and what’s hype and most people also don’t have someone like A2 to hold their hand and spoon feed them.
I have found that most the guys in the match shooting circle tend to have the same or very similar things.
When something is good people tend to find out about it
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>>62893113
>I have found that most the guys in the match shooting circle tend to have the same or very similar things.
Yep. First one guy had the insta360 camera, then everyone had it.
Similar with the true north drop leg.
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>>62893111
Nah it helps him cope with his depression, instead of going to therapy he gunsooms eternally
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>>62893082
>But we can probably safely assume that the majority of people who own one probably actually know what they're doing with it.
based off what? To be honest just buying whatever online hockers suggest is the best in whatever chosen hobby probably means you know less, not more kek
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>>62893119
I owned a truck for years before I found out that differential fluid was a thing
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>>62893113
I’ve had this repeated experience where my poorfag friends will ask my opinion, I’ll walk them through everything, and then they buy something else maybe saving like 50 bucks, and then whatever they bought shits the bed and they come back to me to try and fix it.
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Your LARP scenarios will never happen. Just buy the guns you want, shoot when you want and have fun instead of just shitting on people for not doing things exactly like you are.
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>>62893128
this isn't my experience
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>>62893119
Who the fuck buys an F250 because someone online tells them to? Are you unwell?
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if you aren't gauging your gun regardless of the manufacturer like A2 at least borescoping it, you are rolling the dice either way just matters how many so
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>>62893132
>Your LARP scenarios will never happen
So true, America is perfect and we're gonna live happily ever after for the next 1000 years. Definitely nothing bad on the way.
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>>62893132
This is all I do
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>>62893133
You have smarter friends, are they looking for another guy to hang out with?
I like strategy tabletop games, shooting, and lifting.
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>>62892623
Criterion core or hybrid barrel for gp 12.5 gun?
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>>62893141
You’re not gonna kit up and start dropping people like in an action movie bro.
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>>62893118
I don't have depression
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>>62893150
Core is the future
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>>62893150
>12.5
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>>62893157
Your eating and spending habits say otherwise
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>>62893157
It's not your fault
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>>62893151
At the most me and my neighbors might have to drop trees across the road and hope that's enough
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>>62893157
I don't even sell gun stuff.
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>>62893128
Dealt with this dozens of times. Tried to recommend handgun lights my friend recently, he says he's going to go with streamlight. Couple weeks later he has some amazon special shit and it stops working after one night walk. He makes enough money to afford whatever but he stubbornly goes with the cheapest shit. I think he does it just to complain about something.
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>>62893162
Go look at chairs
>>62893164
Nothing ever is
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>>62893159
Cool, thanks
>>62893161
Idk who that is
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>>62893170
It's not your fault
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>>62893157
Everything about the look in your eyes says differently.
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>>62893150
Criterion Core good but it does weigh more overall than even a gov barrel so keep that in mind, although the weight is a bit better balanced. The 11.5 I shot was noticeably more punchy than a Geissele 11.5 or KAC 11.5. Dont do 12.5 thats a silly length for people trying to be quirky and unique for no reason. 12.5 got put to bed in 2019
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>>62893143
Yeah no
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>>62893178
Ok
>>62893183
Lol
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>>62893134
derailing the conversation doesn't strengthen your point
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>>62893151
For sure man, it's not like our country has been invaded by millions of fighting age men from around the world, the definitely have no bad intentions. War will never happen again, we're in the age of enlightenment. Make sure you sell all your gear, you won't need it.
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>>62893205
Nigga the entire shit you posted was schizophrenic derailing of the gayest order. I do not care.
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>>62893207
this definitely bolsters your argument and doesn't make you sound like a retard schizo to any normal, educated person
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did garand thumb fuck a tranny?
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I'm gonna win the Tremor from Alex Jones btw
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>>62893209
>I don't care!
>(you)
What is it with retards
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>>62893218
Idk, you're right there nothing is stopping you from asking gay nigga.
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>>62893217
You’re gonna win a trip to the garand thumb breeding ranch instead my big beautiful sow
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>>62892763
Give it back, Tyrone
>>62892711
Lpvo 1x with nv sucks, not sure why you think it's usable
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>>62893204
It's not your fault
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>>62893224
Fag
>>62893228
Ok thanks anon, whatever it is
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>>62893212
Yes, because we have had millions upon millions of fighting age men enter the country in the past 4 years. Educated people know all the videos of that are fake.
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>>62893227
>the rmr is equal to the T2
dishonest from the get-go, untermensch
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>>62893235
Wow bro that's SO true
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>>62893242
Dude.. reddit.com is that way
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>>62893235
and you think you’re gonna be engaging in combat with mexicans under thermals and nods or something?
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>>62893243
Zing! Got em! Epic clap back, sigsister!
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i went shooting with my gf yesterday btw
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>>62893250
Post gf ass and ar
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>>62893246
nta but I'm more worried about my "fellow" americans
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>>62893247
Dude.. You're posting reddit coal. Please man, just go back to the r/ar15 tab. I'm begging you.
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>>62893235
Do you think they're all going to join together and start some race war or just continue being lazy parasites and doing nothing?
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>>62893236
Lpvo with piggyback is an lpvo with piggyback. I agree, the rmr is kino thobeit
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>>62893260
This is very insightful
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>>62893192
I just like 12.5 because I like the extra rail space with my long arms. I’m not going to act like it has any other real advantage over 11.5.
Maybe I’ll go with a Geissele instead.
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>>62893259
>”””””””””””””””daughters”””””””””””””””
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>>62893264
Honestly I think reddit.com is more your speed.
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>>62893259
this reads exactly like this >>62893235
what makes one less retarded than the other. I am tired of all of it
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>>62893268
MODS SMITE THIS TRANNY
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>>62893246
They aren't Mexicans retard
>>62893261
Yeah the're all just looking for welfare, I'm sure the Chinese communists didn't send any of their own people in with nefarious reasons
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>>62893272
Uh oh melty
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>>62893265
I imagine Geissele gasses their 12.5 barrels decently. Lots of 12.5s suffer from nobody knowing what the hell to do with the gassing so they do goofy stuff like blowing out the gas port. I think alot of that has to do with trying to cram a midlength gas system into a 12.5 which just isnt worth it imo. Anyways good luck with your cursed ugly ass build, report back when its done so anon can be mean to you, as is tradition
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I don't understand how cyclic rates work on the AR, I have so many surprising results with different buffer systems that I did not expect. My main squeeze is currently a little overgassed but that's okay, that's alright
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>>62893269
If you don't think millions of Chinese fighting age men entering the country undocumented isn't a threat (when we have a war looming with China) you can't be convinced. Just keep eating goyslop and watching football man.
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>>62893280
>I'm sure the Chinese communists didn't send any of their own people in with nefarious reasons
They already do that legally
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>>62893290
Thanks for proving my point. Our country is being infiltrated en mass.
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>>62893246
Does it matter if they're mexican street gangs / cartel members, glowniggers, jihadists, or hostile nation soldiers?
There are any number of very possible scenarios that could unfold.
The Founding Fathers of this nation seemed to think it was an important enough thing that we train with guns that they wrote it into the constitution.
That doesn't mean you have to go spend all your money on guns and gear but at the same time if someone wants to buy thermal and go spend a few grand to fly down to DARC and get shot in the dick by A2 on a turret then that's fine too.
There's plenty of examples throughout history where people had their lives turned upside down and had to pick up arms. Don't be such a faggot about it.
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>>62893284
>midlength gas system into a 12.5 which just isnt worth it imo
Oh I’m going with a carbine length gas system, I’m not chasing the dissipator 12.5 trend.
Kino gun btw
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>>62893262
Its nice and all, but its no different from Ash's gunsooming. That thing hasn't seen a drop of rain or ever been dropped in the mud. Like cool, you took pictures with it wearing furshit in the desert like lol so ebin spontaneous and quirky but you're obviously the languid type anon referred to earlier. Still cool shit tho. Just weird you felt like I was referring to your rifle in the first place and not the piggybacked T2 meme. I'll buy you a dragon dildo if you post a video of you shooting more than 5 rounds.
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>>62893289
>millions of Chinese fighting age men
Sounds like a bit of an exaggeration, anon
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>>62893289
Please post evidence of the millions of chinese flooding whatever country you're referring to, im interested.
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>>62892840
300 yards 8 of 10 hits with irons or optics of choice meaning all the way to a fucking 5x25 or some shit fuck off you don't know what you're talking about learn to standards
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>>62893313
>>62893314
Is this bait? Aside from whatever anon is saying there are millions of chinese people in the united states.
>The Chinese American population in the United States is estimated to be around 4.7 million people, making up 19% of the Asian American population
>The Chinese diaspora in the United States is comprised of approximately 5.4 million individuals who were born in China, Hong Kong, or Macao, or reported Chinese ancestry or race, according to MPI tabulation of data from the U.S. Census Bureau's 2021 ACS. The Chinese diaspora is the ninth largest in the country.
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>>62893311
Not him, but dropping your gun in mud isn’t the badge of honor you think it is and how do you know it hasn’t seen rain it’s not like it doesn’t evaporate or anything. His muzzle device looks like he obviously shoots it a lot suppressed and he has a good bit of brass deflector wear.
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>>62893329
No shit chinks live here retard. He says they're pouring in illegally by the millions
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>>62893333
Trip on Ashley
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>>62893329
There’s a big difference between the Chinese families that have been here for a long time and Chinese immigrants that are supposedly flooding in here right now.
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>>62893313
>>62893314
>>62893336
Do the slightest bit of digging and you'll find it. It has been tracked and documented from South America all the way to the border. There are exclusive hotels set up for the Chinese all along the route from Columbia.
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>>62892973
Shoot what? Garbage? Beer cans? Never seen an el cheapo ar run a drill or shoot a match man seen plenty of them "shoot" though with absolutely no purpose.
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>>62893336
>5 million chinks (self reported btw)
>not pouring in by the millions
Yeah they were already here I guess
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>>62893333
The wear marks of where he previously mounted his light betrays the notion that weapon is handled in a frequent nature. Also, none of my rifles eject that far. You shouldn't have brass deflector wear in a proper rifle. It should eject at 3 o clock, not anywhere near 6 oclock.
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>>62893351
Yes
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>>62893025
Can you justify not hating your fucking rifle every time you look at it? It's black Friday soon man spend the 150 bucks on a decent handguard you'll have options
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Black Friday “deals” are gonna suck this year I’m calling it
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>>62893333
Not him but the backpack is completely clean. Like any time I set my pack down in the woods it gets a ton of fuckin dirt and leaves on it, you know? Barely any creases either. So it’s clearly either brand new or never used. As for the rifle I agree, but idk the dirt looks dry so if he’s been out there doing shit with it, it should have a light layer of dust over it. Not like covered in mud or anything but you definitely know the difference between an armory rifle and one that’s just been in the field
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>>62893350
I have them hitting steel at 300 yards. I've zeroed all of my friends rifles since they have all asked me to. They love how easy it is to hit shit far away once they understand POA/POI.
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This guy is just having fun outside with his fluffy costume head and his guns I’m not gonna hyper analyze his picture
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>>62893355
The brass is supposed to hit the deflector.
Please use a trip so I can filter you
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>>62893366
Hiking with a rifle is cool, but niggas don't know shit about field problems or carrying a weapon for more than a day.
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>>62893376
Lol filter yourself, you inbred retard. Jesus Christ.
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>>62893365
They're already on and they're just 15% off sale prices. Not complaining.
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>>62893377
What should we know nigga?
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>>62893387
being out of shape will get you killed
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>>62893384
Who started already other than cloud defensive?
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>>62893377
Yeah. The fuckin dust I mentioned? When it gets in the mag well and every mag you insert just crunches like broken glass, fuck that. Or the rust that builds up everywhere after like a day or two of humidity lmao
>>62893376
It CAN hit it, hence why it’s there, but it should be coming out the 3-4 o clock so it’s not a necessity
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>>62893390
Many places. Bereli, faxon are two that have been spamming me with emails.
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>>62893382
Trajectory comes from the deflection.
Show me a slow motion video of brass not deflecting first.
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>>62893382
Holy no-shoots self snitch
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>>62893382
You get those angles after the shell hits the deflector,mongoloid.
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>>62893391
I have a DD 14.5 upper that gets zero brass deflector marks on it (just a ding on the edge) and everyone always seethes over it never being shot despite having 6 cases through it because it doesn’t have those wear marks
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>>62893128
Very common, been a few years since I posted this but the answer is always the same, take them shooting with the more people the better when their shit fails the ridicule is the only thing that will make them want to change and not scrape the bottom of the barrel.
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>>62893132
This isn't my experience and yours doesn't count, your pedigree doesn't matter man
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>>62893417
Have breakfast next time chud
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>>62893150
It's already light as fuck being a 12 it doesn't matter man
>>62893151
He could want to kit up for a protest you dumb bitch. We need new tubby cammo bunny pictures
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>>62893411
I bought a poorfag sling and regretted it when it helped me flag my friend in the face. I bought a bfg that night.
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I need to hurry up and snag a deer so I can get back to larping on my property
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>>62893406
Mine has most like right at the end of it and like a little bit of wear right where the dust cover is. It he casings fly off at a 4 o clock angle and it’s a full rifle length. I noticed the casings that flew the farthest and farthest back (probably smacking the deflector) was the cheap Winchester USA valor rounds
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>>62893434
Woa cool rifle man
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>>62893438
I should have been more specific, mine is at the edge of the ejection port it just has a semi circle ding right there it never even touches the deflector itself.
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>>62893443
Ah okay I get you, same with me. You can’t see it too good in the pic, but there’s like a line of brass color right at the edge like you said
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>>62893192
That doesn't mean shit, their gas ports are exactly the same the guns could have been springed and buffered differently or you don't know what you're talking about
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>>62893439
Noooo, you are supposed to hate my rifles
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>>62893455
I hate them.
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>>62893461
Good, Thank you!
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Im actually glad my piston upper started keyholing, it was too fucking punchy with a can + gas turned all the way down anyway, had a good run with it but didn't expect it to shoot tumblers under 6k, qpq stainless is shit btw, 4150 chrome for life nigguh
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>>62893449
It's basically like this but gauged much deeper
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>>62893400
>>62893402
>>62893405
see
>>62893406
my DD 11.3 upper does the same exact thing, it has no wear due to brass ejection, and im at the 5k round count, easily. the only wear is from setting it down on shit and it sliding aorund in the truck bed occaisionally. surely the 11.3 is gassier than 14.5, so im supposed to have a worse ejection pattern.
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>>62893450
>everyone trying to call each other out as no-shoots or no-knowledge for E-dopamine
calm down buddy, I swapped the upper with the criterion core onto my own lower for comparison. You arent smart for knowing how buffers and springs on an AR work. Are you new?
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>>62893471
I believe you dude. I really do. I really believe you man.
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>>62893474
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>>62893384
>They're already on
I see 70% of the stuff for early BF is jizssele.
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>>62893327
Anon, what's the average shoulder width in the U.S.? Do they make steel targets in this shape/size? Fuckin retard
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>>62893311
Idk treating my rifle poorly to make it get ebin wear faster isn't really my thing. If it was spray painted it'd look more like the stock
>>62893366
True, i never use my bag
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>>62893577
>treating it poorly
Yeah, that would be an effect of having to carry it every day, but luckily its a toy.
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>>62893602
I wanna see your toys
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>>62893624
Turn your trip back on, Crummy
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>>62893624
Us furries gotta stick together! *Glomps you* ~UwU~
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>>62893653
I'm not crummy, this is the better of two cetmes I made
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>>62893602
What kind of zogbot cope is this
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>>62893683
The kind that doesn't treat firearms like funko pops
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>>62893284
Sionics 12.5" middy with a 0.78 gas port is pretty damn smart for unsuppressed or with a flow-through style can. They sell another version of the same barrel with a significantly smaller gas port for dedicated suppressor use. They're not CHF, but they are chrome lined.
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>>62893711
12.5 is goober redoot cringe territory
Stop right now
go no farther
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>>62893720
Nah, I'm thinking of building one myself. Might get the suppressor dedicated barrel and pair it up with a Polonium K. Would be about the same length as a 16" barreled AR. You get a nice bump in velocity going from 11.5" to 12.5". It's the biggest jump in velocity by the inch on average, in fact.
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>>62893720
12.5 is the best possible barrel length for anything besides a suppression or precision weapon

a suppression weapon should have a 18 inch barrel and a precision weapon should have a 20 inch (ideally 24 inch) or longer barrel
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>>62893738
Newfag redditor coal alert
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>>62893729
Don't forget your railscales anchor and riflespeed gas block
>>62893738
>24in
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>>62893693
What kind of poor cope is this
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>>62893729
One chart one guy made 10 year ago spawned this entire fad and smug midwits continue to regurgitate it as fact. Congrats, you're fucking retarded.
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>>62893754
What kind of rich cope is this? See I can be asinine as well
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>>62893766
Feel free to go look up velocity tests. Or don't, I don't give a shit.
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Guys I've been toying with the idea of getting a Daniel Defense MK12...but wondering if it would be better to get the upper and a different lower to save a couple of hundred bucks. It's like a 3-500 dollar difference. For example, an Aero Precision or BCM complete lower.
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>>62893825
Yeah my Anderson locks up just as tight as my PRI just get whatever roll mark you think looks cool
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>>62892710
The difference is which group will call you a queer for not doing it the way they do it. Pick one and practice.
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>>62893740
i dont use reddit and im not a newfag the fact just is that 12.5 is the best barrel length for most calibers at intermediate distance

>>62893746
>>24in
you shouldnt be building a precision 5.56 if thats what you are getting at
.308 gains a ton of velocity from 18 to 20 and a ton more going from 20 to 24
you get even more going to 26inches
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Mawwwm the newfag redditor is posting coal again
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>>62893883
>coal
gbtts
(go back to the sharty)
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>>62893833
Cool. Thanks.
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>>62893920
Oh word?
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>>62893920
I like my 20in because it feels good to shoot and velocity is neat
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What are people's thoughts on 300 blackout in current year? Pic rel is my home defense setup and I'm concerned about hearing damage if I ever have to use it. I also heard 300 blackout doesn't run well with low backpressure suppressors which I prefer.
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>>62893965
the only benefit of 300 whisper is that is is quiet with specific ammo, which has the mass and velocity of 45 acp with the slight edge because it is a spitzer style bullet,
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>>62893965
My HD rifle is in 300. I like the caliber but I wouldn’t use it if I didn’t reload. I reload subs for about 28cpr, 125gr TNT supers for 30-35cpr. Pic rel
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>>62894022
Are supers still the same volume as 5.56? I'm guessing they would be since they are supers but maybe not as bad if they aren't as fast? I've seen people shoot 5.56 suppressed without ear protection so I'm guessing it's not good but maybe not severe.

>>62894034
Interesting, that's way cheaper. If I'm buying something for home defense I won't be too upset over ammo cost, the biggest thing will be ensuring the upper gets broken in which will be costly. I can always train with 5.56 which might not be the same but I feel like it's similar enough (same ergos, manual of arms, relatively low recoil rifle). Thoughts on that?
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>>62894022
Retarded over reduction what else would you expect
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>>62894050
Yeah you can train w 5.56 rifle and be good imo. Recoil isn’t much different. Also, I’ve found 300 supers to be quieter than 5.56 supers after accidentally firing a 300 shper without earpro on (thought I had subs in the mag).
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>eotech exps 2-0 was on sale for $330 on psa
>out of stock in under 45 minutes
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>>62894069
It is marginally quieter but not the main focus of supers obviously. Black arc's supers are damn near close to most factory 77gr speeds on a 10.5 but 110gr instead. Pretty cool
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>>62894069
Thanks anon for all the info. Were either something that you feel like would fuck up your hearing bad or just uncomfortable? I know there's different exposure times for different sound levels but I'm guessing it's pretty instant and you'd know if you fucked up.

Btw how do you like the Bren? I need to look more into ambi rifles. I like my lefty upper but not having ambi controls sucks. I do have an LMT but looking to expand my collection if these dumbass bans get reversed by the new Trump admin.
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>>62894098
Damn that is sick. I haven’t cooked up any 110’s, I should.
>>62894104
No I don’t think a couple 300 supers would fuck your hearing (in the open). An indoor mag dump wouldn’t be great obviously. And I love the Bren (and XCR). I will not go back to rifles that are not left side charging with ambi bolt controls. Perfect ergonomics.
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>>62894056
feel free to contribute
>>62894104
the only real reason to go with 300 is noise reduction and more reliability sub 10" ar platform it sounds like home defense is your goal,55-77 will be fine out of a 10" ar at hallway distances
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>>62894143
Hearing safe subsonic home defense is perfectly viable with 300 blackout, this eliminates the hearing damage and concussive force this will generate for the other people in the house, not just you. He can then also use supersonic ammo if he pleases for larping, 300 blackout has a variety of benefits and it seems like he is already kitted out for such.
>>62894133
300 NIGGERout has a fuck ton of potential if you're already handloading dude. You can easily load some solid AP loads with the right data, and subsonic has a lot of research behind it. Check out discreet ballistics, they have really gone all in on subsonic solid copper expanders and they perform fantastic.
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>>62894143
>eh this cartridge is only good for hearing reduction
>sounds like you want to use a gun in a scenario you wouldn't have hearing protection on
>in that case the LOUDFUCK 5.56 4" with LOUDENER will be perfect bro
I truly do not understand this train of logic lmao
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I cannot save ammo worth a damn. No matter how much I buy I feel compelled to shoot nearly all of it. I just love shooting so much bros
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>>62894133
Herro
Really enjoying the metal CH he sent out with my folder
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>>62894185
I’ll check them out, thanks for the rec. I mostly load bulk 125gr supers and bulk 220gr cast lead for night shooting on my property, but an AP load would be very cool to have.
>>62894211
This is the way
>t. ammo hoarder
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>>62894236
Both subsonic and supersonic have their own trees of different high performing bullets that set the trend. I strongly recommend doing some reading because the handloading world is your oyster with 300 blackout.
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>>62894234
Hello XCRanon. Yeah, I may pick up a second folder for the L. Very sturdy, well designed piece t b h
>>62894252
Will do bro, ty. You have any experience w subsonic copper solids?
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>>62894133
>>62894143
Thanks anons. Since I don't handload I'll probably hold off for now since suppressed 5.56 seems like it should be slightly worse. I already have a little tinnitus but I'm trying to not make it work. Is there any good info out there on how much worse say a 16" vs 14" vs 11.4" AR15 sounds suppressed? I use an RC3 FWIW to not gas myself.

I have a friend with an XCR and I loved shooting it. It really surprised me because it basically had no recoil, it felt like it shot .22lr.
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>>62894234
I still think you're a fag but I shot the strela full auto on my short upper and I could easily maintain my view of the reticle. Very impressed tbqh, idk why a2 hates it, it performs more consistently than a 3 prong albeit probably less effective when the 3 prong is at its best. How do I remove audio from a web
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>>62894267
I helped build a rifle for a customer who was focusing his build around subsonic hunting, he has shown me a glutton of pictures as does discreet ballistics share on their socials. I'd just be repeating anecdotal stories but suffice to say copper solids rely on expansion rather than fragmentation very similarly to modern long range 5.56 loads like 77gr tmks or 80.5gr or 77gr smk, so I'd argue it's been pretty well established as a wounding characteristic. I'll scour the interwebs and share some pics to show what I'm talking about
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>>62894267
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>>62894294
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>>62894283
Yeah I'm fairly impressed with the 2 piece
I wish the 7.62 had a bit more volume to deal with tula/wolf flash
>still think you're a fag
Why tho?
>>62894294
How's pricing on these compared to the Lehigh version? I've got a few of those loaded, and they work pretty good on pitbulls
>you can get their 110gr tipped to just over 3k out of 308
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B5 lower paired with quad upper, mayhaps the mayochup of handguards if you will.
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>>62892641
It literally says to avoid Geissele. Geissele rifles are legitimately phenomenal. Better than anything DD makes. The ONLY thing that DD has going in their favor is the perception that the RIS3 is a superior rail. The Ris2/3 are both overrated. They aren't the most rigid rail. They're specifically the most rigid rail *that can accept an m203*.

I ended up selling my DD. My Geissele barrel is more accurate, has a better profile, and is gassed WAAAAAAY better than my DD was.

My Geissele barrel utterly destroys my BCM(I actually have 3 of them, they're better than DD too btw) and my old DD. It's also better than Criterion. Geissele is the only company I know of making CHF/CL barrels that can legitimately shoot a 1 moa 10 shot group. Everything else is like 2-2.5moa if you shoot a 10 shot group.

If you consider that you can get a super duty upper for dirt cheap on black friday or any other major holiday there simply isn't a better deal on the market right now. Those guns fuck.
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my wife is yelling at me for sleeping with my rifle more than her again
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>>62894600
let me guess, she's mexican
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>>62893965
I wish I reloaded because I'd definitely fuck with it
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>goysele
>f2shitty
I'm tired of personal attacks
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>>62892840
I'd beat your fucking ass if you said that shit to my face.
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>>62892907
>the anon with a poverty pony and a chink red dot that shoots for an hour every weekend
Doesn't exist.
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>>62894693
Plenty do
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>>62894283
Damn that's impressive how many rounds was that
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>>62894698
May we see one?
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>>62894703
You're looking at 'im, buddy
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>>62894701
31. Cyclic rate hovering just over 900
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>>62894705
Yeah ok
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>>62894716
based retard sogodoshi
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>>62893876
>>62893920
Go back
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>>62894097
you're not missing much. T2 is better
>>62894411
G$ barrels seem to be pretty good but I will never be a fan of thin handguards.
The RIS3 is alright. Every time it gets brought up I mention how it's very comfortable from an ergonomics standpoint.
The RIS2 is great. The stripped SOCOM 14.5 is an excellent product for a reasonable price.
I can see why people might not like either one if they're manlets though.
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>>62893176
Is chairs fat? I always pictured a skinny guy with a sort of goofy haircut.
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>>62894849
Skinny guy would have replaced that chair, fat ass doesn't feel a difference. Regardless he's cool and so are his gunkopops.
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I can feel it bros, 2025 is really gonna be my year. I'm gonna shoot more and maybe even get a gf. Yeah I said that about this year but it's for real this time
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>>62894928

I’m going to quit Kratom in 2025 since DMT got me addicted to it.
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>>62894928
im finally going to get a LAM and finish my SPR upper
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>>62894979
If you copy anything he does you only have yourself to blame
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>>62894985
>going to get a LAM
>no NV
Hmmm. FishyneedsaFPraid
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>>62894912
Yeah I like chairs. I'm fat and I definitely feel the difference.
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>>62894835
>T2 is better
No shit, but one cost 330 and the other 700+
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>>62895008
im cloning desert metro
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>>62895024
Ok and?
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>>62893729
It's literally not and totally the opposite you stupid piece of shit garmin made the xero c1 just for buckhead like you to shut the fuck up, grand thumbs last video where he tested and chronographed most barrel lengths showed that you have the smallest most insignificant jump you dumb bitch with the largest being from 10.3 to 11.5. Shut up fuck you
>>62893766
Hey fuck face everyone has a fucking 450 dollar chronograph now that fits in their pocket so shut up fuck you there's a bunch of videos that show velocities now get with the times you dumbfuck loser
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>>62893693
He treats objects like women, man
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>>62890931
You think you're slick but now I know you're a male with eyes and hair.
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Im criminally speeding to the range with the top back & sipping the sugary crystals from the bottom of my ice coffee like a little slut lol
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>>62893729
100%wrong
>>62893766
>>62893876
>>62893920
Your 12 inch smashed and slammed muttbuild patrol length midlength or carbine length nobody knows is objectively the worst length
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/What-s-your-length---Garand-Thumb-barrel-length-test-/5-2657569/
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>>62892840
>see /arg/ tards with $5k builds
>they SEETHE whenever someone suggests that they've overpaid for their glorified range toy
Lord's work, anon. although >>62892944 does have a good point. Anons should just be honest with themselves
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>>62895097
12 inch gets you the least velocity gains per inch out of all the common barrel lengths
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>>62895208
nuh uh 12.5 is the super secret magic velocity barrel length I saw it on reddit
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>>62895097
>those comments
Even with how many legitimate retards, faggots, and noshoots post here it’s still less cringe than that.
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>>62895219
It's actually not about the barrel length in this case it's about the gas system length.
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>>62895168
Despite (in spite of might be more applicable?) the genuine mental illness that permeates these threads, /arg/ has severe feelings of inadequacy. You'll find very few posters here that aren't fucked in the head.
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>>62895228
Nah, gt showed it on video. 12.5 is the least efficient for the size
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>>62895239
I no more than him and I also have more bastards out there. GT got nothing on me.
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gonna take the 4-16 off my 16" and throw it on my 12.5, plenty of rail space to run a bag, pretty cozy length & balance with a can, hte 16" will get a dot and be my once a year carbine match blaster
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>Breedthumb
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>>62895229
>You'll find very few posters here that aren't fucked in the head
Which posters would you say are the most fucked in the head?
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>>62895239
>gt
Did he also show the slampig he cheated on his wife with?
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>>62895263
Vicious
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>>62895263
The trannies, the obese, the furries, the one who’s obsessed with Karen carpenter and going to kill himself in 2 more weeks
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>>62895283
>the one who’s obsessed with Karen carpenter and going to kill himself in 2 more weeks
7 years and 3 months*
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>>62895228
I've speculated about that before but everyone on /arg/ called me crazy. Take two 14.5" barrels for example; one carbine gas one mildength. The gas in the midlength acts on the bullet for longer than the carbine due to the gas port being further away, right? So theoretically it should also be slightly higher velocity?
16" barrel rifle length gas would be even better theoretically
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>>62895283
I’m not a furry I just want to fuck one
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>>62895334
I was just shitposting.
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not making "the list" has improved my mood immensely
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>>62895363
Damn, making it improved mine
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>>62895302
that image always gives me a chuckle. Maybe I'll be motivated enough to do an /arg/ monthly Christmas edition
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>>62893311
>treat your property like shit or you don’t use it

No.
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>>62895363
same. too many shizos here i dont want them to remember me.
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>>62895409
Maybe paint rifle?
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>>62895409
Just smear some mud on it so people believe you're a real operator, not some hipsterfaggot enthusiast.
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>>62893311
>>62893693
You’re the kind of guy that will drag his AR behind an ATV to show the internet how heckin raw his training sessions are.
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>>62895398
Please do
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>>62895435
nta but I treat my guns poorly because I'm retarded
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>>62895452
kek the motorcycle guy
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>>62895363
What list
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how long do form 1's generally take once fingerprints have been received via mail?
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>>62895409
>>62895434
>>62895434
Purposefully misrepresenting my argument just shows I struck a chord. Enjoy your range toys anon, that's all they are and will be.
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>>62895501
>>62895283
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>>62895514
>that's all they are and will be
as opposed to what exactly?
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>>62895514
…ok? I’m not an active duty soldier or anything what else would they be? What a stupid conversation.
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>>62895509
Shits mind blowingly fast these days most likely under a week
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>>62895535
A minuteman's tool of choice.
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>>62895574
in that case i might go ahead and sbr my other lower. my prints should be there friday, if it's approved by next friday that will have exceeded my expectation
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>>62895599
Show us what a minuteman’s tool of choice looks like
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>>62895424
I’m considering cerakoting it actually. I bought a cheap airsoft gun and have beeen spray painting it to test our colors and patterns but I’ve hated them all
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>>62895616
Cerakote camo always ends up looking like shit only solid colors like od green or fde ever end up looking acceptable
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>>62895616
nta but can you post some? I have pretty low standards for paint.
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>>62895626
Yes, let's see them
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>>62895626
The only one I considered worth even taking a picture of
>>62895623
I’m actually considering a solid color similar to the KAC taupe but I’m on the fence about it.
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>>62895697
Looks good to me
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>>62895697
Looks good tbqh
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>>62895703
Ehhh I don’t like it but maybe I’m overly critical
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Look Who's Back is a fun movie
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>>62895697
This is fine and will look better as it ages
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>>62895697
I like it. What colors did you use?
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>>62895747
can you give camo pattern examples that you do like?
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>>62893920
Psycho post, seek help
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>>62895747
>>62895697
Eh looks fine to me. My problem is I wear mine out too fast, usually because I don't let a layer fully try and take it to the range IMMEDIATELY. This isn't a brag, it would be nice to have a solid camo pattern for at least a week
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>>62895775
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>>62895816
I give it ~2 hours between layers and make a day out of it getting drunk so in the morning I get a nice little surprise. My first time was 4 hours and I think that was way more than necessary.
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>>62895762
Rapco green, field drab and sand

>>62895775
I actually liked garand thumbs sig spear paint job but that doesn’t mesh with Appalachia at all
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>>62896054
Yeah I lie to myself that because I live in a very dry area I can wait only an hour or sometimes even less. It's not a big deal but I want to 'earn' my wear
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>>62896109
>Rapco
Neat I'll give those a shot next time. Gonna have to repaint soon when I move.

>>62896119
It's humid as fuck here there is no way I could get away with that. I'd be leaving fingerprints all over it.



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