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>used to make fun of enbies
>now think i may be an enby
wow so it really, actually, truly is like that huh
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hi nonbiney :)
how did you come to this understanding?
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>>42354958
I forgive you
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>>42354988
just from interacting with a lot of people who seem very preoccupied with how they're percieved and struggling to understand what it even means to "have a gender"
i truly feel like i dont have one, or at least i dont experience one idk
>>42354990
thank you
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>>42355023
this is sort of how i figured myself out. i kind of thought that after a few years of transitioning i would understand what it is to feel "like a woman" bc i never felt "like a man" but that time never came.
thank you for sharing nonny

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I don't think i'm trans. Realized this today. I'm so fucking stressed. I almost got chemically castrated for no reason.

Doesn't change much since i'm a worthless man and will never breed anyway(one of the main reasons i got drawn to the idea.) but there is nothing at all womanly about how i think or operate. I'm a stereotype of an angry man and a misogynist at that.
It feels pretty bad bc i kinda hoped trooning would solve a lot of my issues like depression, frustration, dislike of my own sexuality(straight one) and confidence issues and now i'm left without a straightforward path to the goal.

Probably better than adding detransing in the future to the pile desu ngl but it is what it is.

The thought makes me uneasy though. Very anxious and stressed about it either way. Public healthcare made me wait a year before i can get therapy even after i said i'm considering suicide and i'm broke as fuck so thats that lol.
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I also never wanted to trans i was just considering hrt.
I'd never bother with passing bc i dont leave my house
Moot point by now since i'm over it and it was just a momentary lapse in judgment
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>>42353055
yeah i mean a big part of my desire to troon is the feeling that im disgusting and if i troon i have a chance of being desirable in the way i process desirability (femininity).

i am also in that position where its like i just need to accept im an undesirable man, get a meaningless menial job and pick up a drug addiction just like every other unsuccessful low status man does, but i cling onto this stuff as an escape from reality.

i feel like the only time life can be good is when you're in your 20s, have no baggage, are attractive and can get a lot of friends who validate you just for being you. if you miss out its a thorn in your side forever, you just have to accept it.
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I also need to stop reading manga. Too many pretty women..whether i'm an incel or trans its making me want to blow my brains out.
>>42355090
>feel like the only time life can be good is when you're in your 20s, have no baggage, are attractive and can get a lot of friends who validate you just for being you. if you miss out its a thorn in your side forever, you just have to accept it
Accurate. The only other worthwile part would be working real hard and reaping benefits in ur 40s but that won't get you any further than just petty hedonism and some fucking used up gutterwhore letting you put a kid in her(maybe)
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Forgot pic.
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>>42353055
I'm confused. Are the male ways out of depression (clockwise, starting top left) trooning out, physical self improvement, getting a foreign bride and violent autism?
>>42355090
This. Your 20s might be your best time. You have just enough youthful freedom from responsibilities, balanced by just enough power and social agency to do something with it.
Also, quit posting pictures of me.

I'm curious to see if anyone else transitioned for a fetish. EITHER MtF or FtM

By that I mean transitioned mostly or entirely for sexual enjoyment.

Was it one single fetishes or did you have a cluster of fetishes?

How far did you go with it, medically, legally, socially etc.

Have you developed a fetish for detransition or masculinization/feminization that you never had before and did you detrans because of it? Are you considering detransing for any reason?
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>>42354996
Not the OP you responded to, out of curiosity what is your height and what age did you transition?
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>>42341682
And the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
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>>42354996

Sooo as a former incel was it hard to make yourself accept that you liked men? Like what was it like going from a failed competitor with men to basically trying to please them like a lap dog? What was your first time with a man like? Did you know right away you were going to be making a permanent change or did the realization happen gradually?
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>>42354485
I'm always interest in hearing what will happen to the surplus women around when transmaxxing/being prison gay becomes mainstream
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>>42355059
165cm. Started at 23. I will turn 31 in a few weeks.
>>42355081
No. Did you read my comment? The only thing "god" got right was to make me androphilic. I would've roped if I weren't attracted to men.
It's just that pretrans men were nice to me but didn't want me romantically and women wouldn't give me the time of the day no matter what.
>what was it like going from a failed competitor with men to basically trying to please them like a lap dog?
I didn't go full tradmax, but since my entire socialization in terms of sex happened under HRT, I was surprised myself how easy it was for me to lean into a feminine role. Other aspects were much harder (I did unironic theater classes on mannerisms - I "pass" better than half of the cis women I work with kek).
Still, given that bigods are the best dating pool for trannies, I was still competing with men, except now I didn't have a zero score kek
>Did you know right away you were going to be making a permanent change or did the realization happen gradually?
Yes, I knew it would be permanent.
Like any self-respecting chud repper, I had done my research properly. Except I concluded the pink pill is still the superiour option.

I will now post accounts of life on Terf Island
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>>42355030
holy bait
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exogenous hormones do have biological effects yeah
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>>42349439
Yeah, Chuck here really made a mistake by telling people, nobody would ever have known if he hadn't fumbled that ball
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>>42349564
In Britain specifically, many of them mount a large dildo on a wooden handle and bring it with them when they go out to public toilets; this is called the "rapestick"
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>>42355064
>Narcissism is when someone has an issue being discriminated against

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i might be straight.

> be me
> transbisexual
> assume i'm demisexual?
(relevant)
> know no man would ever want me (197cm)
> "good thing your bi Nona. you should probably just go with other trans girls hahaha"
i'm told this a lot.
for some reason this makes me cry a lot even though it's true.
> years pass, become semipassoid (as good as i can hope for)
> get a girlfriend
> sexual stuff is always requested by her
> feels very icky to me but I assumed I was demi and just hadn't warmed up yet
> after months realize not once have i been attracted to her body STILL

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>>42345462
giwtwm
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>>42345437
You know there are kind and normal men out there that would be attracted to you, OP. You owe it to yourself to try living, although it's not easy given your situation.
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>>42345437
Also come to the Netherlands, plenty of men over 197 cm.
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>>42345437
Wow so sapphic
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>>42354097
highly unlikely. she's 197cm. what man wants that?

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• HRT related medical experiences and research
• Availability and pricing of medications
• Rational and scientific discussion

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>>42351678
Are the pills little squishy gel capsules? Like can you poke a hole in them and stuff will ooze out?
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I am getting the feeling ralox is cope, I just read someone's reddit post about how they low-dosed E, and took ralox, and apparently they wound up with fucking b cups, which is above average compared to another MTF study I read. For fucksake for femboys taking this it really is just gonna be a gamble huh?
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>>42353824
yeah
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>>42354402
Genetic Lottery
You'll never know what happens till it happens
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>>42354535
Okay yeah you can push them up your butt

>qott
seriously, are you all nuns? it's been a day. is nobody horny enough to make a thread?

sorry for the blurry ass picture, i couldn't think of anything and didn't really give a fuck
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>>42345713
>oh, yeahhhh, it'd be soooo horrible to work my way up in the ranks, acheive an elevated station in the military,, just so some evilll commieeee can turn me from a well respected officer into (his/her) slutty toy
i want to be some haughty, proud, bitchy officer who gets captured by the enemy. i sputter with indignation but they just ignore me. they laugh every time i say "do you know who i am?" or "you can't do this!" because my rank has no power here. all i can do is scream impotently into my gag as they fuck me yet again.

even my own soldiers are happy to see me turned into a slut. photos of me humiliated in bondage are routinely smuggled into the camp i used to work in.

i can hardly believe that such a fate would befall me, which makes it ten times worse for me. but there's no help coming. everyone always wanted to see me fall, and now i've fallen in the most satisfying way possible. all my legacy is now is a cum-stained polaroid at the bottom of one of my former soldier's footlockers.
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I want to go on a date with a femboy while he crossdresses in a really cute outfit, handholding walks through the city at night..
I take him home or to a hotel room and when things start getting hot and heavy he reveals he's actually been a guy the whole time
and I tell him it doesn't matter, he's too cute and he's gonna be my girl for the night
Maybe he puts up some token resistance at first but breaks down when I pull out my thick cock and start poking him with it.. manhandling him onto his knees and telling him to use his mouth on it..
maybe I have to slap him around a little to really drive the point home that the only way out of this is through.. but before long he's into it too and is letting me use his cute girly little body however I want..
once I know I have him, I put him on his back and fold his legs up with his knees by his shoulders, and pound him as deep as I can into the bed.. I want to fuck the cutest moans he can make out of him before I unload in him, and keep fucking his semen-slicked insides as long as I can after before pulling out, both of us breathless..
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i want a trans gf to cuddle and kiss all the time and we are in love and get each other off all day
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>>42355035
1. are you trans
2. would you settle for a boymoder
3. are you near dfw
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>>42355108
no im a chaser sorry brah

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has anyone else 'detransitioned' from being a woman who actively tried to pass to an androgynous person?

i'm giving up on trying to pass after a very long time on hrt. i'm a twinkhon and i've been told i look androgynous so it might be possible. i have a couple clocky features i'll never be able to afford to fix so i figure i'll continue to try this and if it doesn't help me cope i can just kms.
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back where i come from its called boymoding
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>>42355027
is that not enbycoping?
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>>42355027
hi big soph
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>>42355066
it's very obviously different.
>>42355073
it's mostly the same probably. i think most amab non-binary people who never tried to pass as women have absolutely no sense of style.
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>>42355116
she has bdd, i'm just realistic lol

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Chasers should give up on trying to date femboys and trans women and just date normal gay men instead.
Gay men are way less mentally ill. It will be a much better experience, for both parties.

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i haven't come out to my boyfriend as trans yet but he referred to me as his boywife today
can someone explain? is my cover blown? what should i do now?

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I suffer a decent amount as a tranny in Australia.

QOTT: Have you showered today?
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>>42347867
Do not make a tttt discord! Humanity is filled with beauty beyond that you and I can imagine! TOUCH GRASS!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>42348087
I’m so glad you’re doing better :)
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>>42348766
I’ll be supportive anon! I hope you feel good and I’m happy to hear the news! I’ve heard good things about pellets but they’re so pricy…

>>42348867
Reading and writing mostly, same as usual. I like baking though, even though I’m terrible at it.

>>42349543
>>42349553
Suspiciously Karter shaped replies… seriously though, I’m not going to make a Discord, so stop getting pedantic about it. There’s really no point in being that terminally online, which I know is ironic coming from a tripfag.

>>42350464
Thank you anon! I hope you’re doing well too.
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>>42351240
>I’ve heard good things about pellets but they’re so pricy…
If you do the math it's roughly equivalent to DIY with gel. Two pellets cost $300 plus $200 to put them in, that's $500 and that lasts 6-18 months depending on your body.

If you're taking oestrogel from an online pharmacy, a 16 day supply is $25, that's $570 a year. So it's about the same, the expensive one is patches when they're not on the PBS.
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>>42353446
Fuck. Maybe I should invest in that. Saves me injecting myself with placebo juice every week…

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My respect for cis women gets lower everyday. This fucking loser had a harem of them to use and abuse and he’s your generic pasty sad uwu “:C” eboy with some internet clout. Fuck cis women. Fuck them.
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>>42354844
Both these people are bad. But at least one is kind of attractive. Also he is tall as fuck. Thats really what women care about anyway
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>>42354860
Actually Turkey Tom is proof that most women's attraction is contextual, and that having a certain type of charisma is very important to them.
Hasan is proof that trannies are incredibly fucking retarded and thirst over someone who pays lip service to them and their retarded bottom politics enough that they fanatically sweep for his retardation, dog abuse and narcissistic crash outs.
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>>42354844
Turkey Tom is kinda cute Hasan has icky vibes he’s so insecure/tryhard and reminds me of being a teenage repper
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>>42354844
repper doesn't mean anything anymore then
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>>42354923
Fembrained
>>42354926
>paints his nails
>crossdresses """ironically"""
>performative masculinity
>performative "safe-male"
>fanatical shitty politics
>incredibly insecure
>takes sissy pills for balding
>takes roids to gymcope
>unstable relationship
>sex pest
>surface level fashion obsession but terrible at it
He even kicks like a white woman

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post controversial lgbt opinions, i'll start:

policing people's speech is extremely retarded. by this i mean things like asking people to refer to you as a specific set of pronouns, or getting angry when someone calls you "dude" or "girl", when the speaker's intent is not to gender you, and that's just how they refer to everyone. every time i see someone doing that i get "IT'S MA'AM" flashbacks.
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>>42354671
Isnt hurting others******* that's a awful typo lmao
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>>42351317
>>42351424
>>42351448
>>42351576
>>42352415
I subscribe to all of these.
>>42351963
I particularly subscribe to the first half of this comment. The second half is cringe.
But intersectionality is absolute cancer and most definitely a psyop.
The second half is way too dramatic, though I like the spirit.
>>42353129
Rural plebs in Poland address me in the feminine. Living in a place with a heavily gendered language is a non-stop referendum on passing.

Now, onto my own chudite takes:
1. racial diversity is bad, actually. Proximity to third worlders is particularly bad for trannies and fags - https://academic.oup.com/esr/article/32/1/54/2404332

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Trannies have irrevocably lost the culture war due to their uncompromising positions on things like minors and sports teams. People will literally die because some ugly fucking hon NEEDED to swim with the girls.
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>>42351423
>Virtually all of society and culture needs to be torn apart from the roots and built back up
Every brainlet teenager wants to start from 0 so their ideology can rise. It's been tried by multiple countries. It never works. And you end up losing so much valuable culture along the way. Part of maturity is learning to accept complexity and imperfection
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>>42355028
trannies have no institutional power our opinions of these issues are of virtually no consequence, trans politics entirely consists of cis people talking about and over us.

I'm a weird artist that makes weird art, my whole life revolves around it not only that I'm transbian as well.

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Do tall trannies want to give short kings snu snu?
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>>42354730
I can just lift you up and you can wrap your legs around me. I have dignity, a man shouldn't have to beg like this.
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>>42353643
yes i do. i love short men more than they'll ever know
>>42353660
sure, you need facial hair tho. no shotamaxers!
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>>42354713
well yes since thats me. but im not american, so i wonder if thats a whole thing.
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>>42354758
Where are you from then?
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>>42354995
southern hemisphere


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