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Why do you think some ftms / theyfabs desist and then become hard right terf types?

The reason I ask is that I know a woman who did this. She had all the traits you expect in a ftm (didn't feel comfortable being a woman, said she felt like a man, had that slightly twinkish face that some of them do, etc.). The only thing unusual was that she's short and busty & a lot of ftms that I've met have been tall.

Anyways, she developed a crush on a cis guy and he paid for her to go to past life regression therapy and now she's like, "I was a guy in my past life but I'm a woman now for a reason." Won't stop talking about AGPs, autosexuality, etc.
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>>43132233
"Detransition" isn't a thing. There is no such thing as "removing the trans", that is a pseudoscientific hoax.
A more accurate phrasing is that they are undergoing a Christian phase. They later become "ex-ex-trans" because it is a fake Christian phase they get groomed into.
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>>43132720
>"Detransition" isn't a thing. There is no such thing as "removing the trans", that is a pseudoscientific hoax.

you don't have to tell me, lol. my family tried doing secular conversion therapy on me and it aint do shit. I just mean the process by which people are shoved back into the closet, either ego-syntonically or -dystonically it's easier to be led in that direction when there is a stick AND a carrot.
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While it's true women get easily caught up in fads, I'm pretty sure this wouldn't happen without feminist brainwashing in the first place making them hate themselves. I haven't seen evidence of it in other places, anyway, regardless of how common trans people are. I could be mistaken though.
>>43132646
kek
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>>43132083
because foids can't stand being weird, they have to belong to some group, when some of them find out stuff abt politics or whatevs, they just depoon, unlike trannies (men) who can be chuddy even tho they're agps
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>>43132127
>Ftfemboys ironically have a more consistent sense of self
unironically this, AAPs are the only trutrans ftms

do you idolise your boyfriend and get all warm and fuzzy when you think about him being better than you?
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No, I'm a very competitive person, I'd be spending every free moment to surpass said theoretical boyfriend that's better than me.
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MEFslop
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>>43134997
this is the only life you have

>>43135058
what if he'd always win against you?
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>>43134980
I do this but I'm a cishet girl
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>>43134980
He's not better than me but I love him anyways.

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It’s hard being friends with trans women because they get all flirty and weird. I’m a gay guy so of course I’m pro lgbt, but it seems like every time I make friends with a trans woman. She starts to take my friendship for something else. I’ll have to remind them I’m gay. Then they say something like “I still have my boy parts” or some weird shit like that. I also really hate the forced giggle they do. Like you’re an adult not a little girl. Ugh idk. And the only gay (lesbian) trans women I ever met was an autistic turbo nerd who was rude af
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>>43135236
>"I still have my boy parts"
faketrans. block he- ahem, it

is there a link between having a micropenis and trooning out?
I've been chasing for a few years now and have been fairly successful in the endeavor and have had sex with 4 transwomen who had a micro penis, this seems like a statistical impossibly given the rarity of the condition.
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>>43135237
it usually noticeably shrinks after time on e so that helps
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>>43135237
I hade a small peenor, not micropenis though.

but HRT makes it smaller for 90% of the girls.
so I did end up with a micropenis
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Kill yourself or stop chasing people like me, chud loser.
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>>43135306
never, I love the dolls too much.

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>>43135209
me too, no post i can muster the will to captcha at
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uhuh
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>>43135249
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I have singlehandedly been bringing the quality of the thread down with my posts and I'm glad
Behind my cuckshed theres a tree thats leaning towards my bedroom and if a earthquake or a gust of wind or a lightning bolt strikes I'll be killed in my sleep. I rest easy
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I really don't want to go to work today :(

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All transgender "women" are males who have a crossdressing fetish.

All transgender "men" are females who want to be a femboy in a gay relationship.
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>>43132397
hey :)
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>>43130202
It’s not true unless you have the fact pepe to prove it.
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>>43130192
it's not a crossdressing fetish, I like to have tits and a pussy while wearing mens clothes
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>>43134347
there are no genetic males who ***truly*** look more female than male except in misleading/distorted/limited photos or videos that selectively display them from certain angles
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>>43132881
>almost like you just want to have gay sex and use the tits to pretend it isn't
More like I want to have gay sex and also really like fake tits.
That's what a trans attracted man is.
I used to have genuine romantic feelings for (real) foids at one point in my life but that's over now. Fetishes and kinks are all that's left

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The only thing I truly like is bondage. Of course, I've always felt attraction to girls but really, the only libido I ever feel is seeing them trussed up, begging for life and through me dominating them. Intercourse disgusted me. I just liked to see them squirm, moan and whimper in bondage as I jack off in the corner. Ever since I was a child I always was naturally gravitated towards seeing women in bondage. After BoundHub got IP blocked in the USA since like October, I started downloading and playing bondage games where you play as a woman getting tied up - overall, these factors are why I refused to ask out and speak to women ... because none of them could fit my desires ... no woman attracted me.

THEN, right when this was happening - bondage games -, I started heavily questioning my own gender. Specifically, remembering memories of desiring to the be the other gender. Suddenly, I felt top and bottom dysphoria where something felt off about my body. And I started remembering past memories wishing in my early twenties that I wanted boobs (24 now). I started imagining myself with softer skin and boobs and a fully functioning vagina. I didn't feel aroused, just simply euphoric. But more specifically, that I'd become the object of desire - the bound woman. Now, from November to April I have considered myself transgender. I felt a desire to socially transition as in be called a girl or a woman ... and I feel a particular feeling of trans joy when I think about that. I've considered taking estrogen, FFS, everything and being called a transgender woman felt like something that finally fit me ...

However ... after much consideration, I think the desire to troon may just be a culmination of the loneliness I feel in being a bondage weirdo. Women find me too chauvinistic as a man who wants to BDSM top them. So, if I can't find the perfect woman, I become the woman. Is this a repper delusion or am I onto something here?
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>>43132112
I don’t have autism but takes me time to feel comfortable to come out of my shell with people.
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Interesting thread
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every post itt is now on someone's permanent palantir record
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>>43131699
trying too hard
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>>43131753
i've been thinking of doing it with an iceblock

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old thread died

>ASL (biological sex, or gender)
>letter(s)
>primary interest
>other interests
>looking for
>not looking for
>discord/contact

qott: have you met any nice people from here?
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>>43134938
Cope. Maybe just have some more hobbies?
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>>43134948
how old is she? i wanna know if it's me
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>>43135129
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>>43135102
at least one of my hobbies isn't being an irredeemable chud
maybe just go get laid?
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>>43133581
why is every single azfren absolutely fucking insufferable (and fat, but that's rude and unrelated). /soc/ is even worse since it's just this plus some generic coomer npcs who would fuck anything with a hole. the last nice azfren i met on here lived like a mile away but she killed herself before we ever met :-(

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radiochan has aged horribly
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>>43131874
mogs me
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>>43131874
that's not her lmao
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>>43133275
looks like her
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>>43131874
I’m sick of seeing this tard on women’s fashion subs on reddit
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>>43131874
do people hate her

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Tried to hang out with a pre-transition friend tonight. He went full chud-mode. I couldn't even make it through one glass of wine before I felt so sick I couldn't even keep going and had to leave.
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>>43135072
What do you mean? What exactly went on?
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>>43135091
We went to the mass of the lords supper, he showed up late so we were just sitting there listening. I was in tears at the end because it's a really powerful moment, but he just wanted to debate it.

Then we went out for drinks, and he just kept talking about how great things were before, and when I told him how miserable I was and tried to explain dysphoria to him he just dismissed it all with the same bullshit the chuds on here use. I tried to talk to him about what was going on in my life and he wasn't having it. He just wanted to bait me on random autisms he'd got from Ai.

Also the bar we were at was uncomfortably warm and loud, eventually I just couldn't take it any more and asked him to take me home.
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maybe dont unload all of your shit on a dude
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>>43135113
he sounds retarded
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>>43135113
I mean if you wanna be the stereotypical tranny who only talks about dysphoria and transphobia and how hard it is to be a tranny then don't act surprised when people get chuddy in response

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Transgender day of visibility edition
>QOTT1: remind us why you rep?
>QOTT2: would you be more distressed ig your mother or father discovering your troonish nature ?
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>>43135008
I read those as well.
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>>43122334
>wanting to troon out while I'm trans phobic.
I'm a passoid so this may be privileged, but I'm right leaning & don't want shit to do with the LGBT community lmao. The loud minority are disgusting. "trans kids" are extremely rare. I was one, but I didn't realize it until puberty cus that's when your body starts diverging from your mental. Most parents of "trans kids" are literally just fucking gaslighting their kids. Wait a few more gens & watch how most of these "trans kids" end up detransitioning. I don't like ally fags either. They don't go thru what we go thru, so half the time they're fucking misrepresenting us & doing more harm than good.
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>>43122100
>>43122563
How did they get these pictures? How was he hacked?
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>>43135106
I spent the ages of 18 to 25 rotting in my room and I don't regret it. Reality is overrated, escapism is way better.

As a cis male with AGP is transmaxxing actually worth it? I know the shortcomings of being a troon and that transition is pay to win

Will I be shunned by the trutrannies?
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>>43127447
from what I have experienced: dolly (bimbo) culture is very inclusive for cis and trans. As an AGP you should either bimbo-trans or nothing, cuz normal women (cis or trans) will shunn you either way lmao
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>>43132704
Wait a second you're MEF?
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the only 2 measurements that matter for whether you should troon or not are height and dick size.
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>>43135206
5'7'' and 7''
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>>43135254
NTA but do it (if you want to y'know)

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(I've seen a thread about this before so for some of you this may be redundant.)
But I am so fascinated that a considerable number (not all) of completely straight men decide to transition, start HRT, and then gradually or quickly become attracted to men as a woman.

I've been thinking about this phenomenon for a while and have a few theories:

1. They were attracted to men all along, and were repressing their romantic desires to fit the mold of the "normal" cis-het man.

2. Societal expectations demand that a woman be with a man. They're going against norms to transition, but benefit most in a world that favors het women.

3. It is simply easier to find romance as a woman who is desired by straight men--they're the horniest and most populous demographic of romantic partner.

4. I've heard some transwomen say that they became attracted to men after starting estrogen. Does HRT reorient attraction? Or is it simply a placebo effect?

I'm sure some of you have recognized this pattern of straight men becoming straight women. What do you guys think is the cause?
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I can think of few more
>AGPs who aren't exactly androphilic but being a woman who has sex with men gives them euphoria and validation
>MEFs for whom it's another level of emasculation
>Autistic trannies masking because they think straight women are better perceived than lesbians
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>>43133421
I am attracted to femininity, not straightness
Not all AGPs are built the same, some feel like being railed by a masculine guy would be the peak woman experience, I can't relate to that at all
My ideation relates more to feminine aesthetics being something I have for myself and is also present in my partner
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>>43135162
It all depends on your auto/allo sexuality ratio. You don't relate to the peak autosexual scenario of being a woman with a man because there isn't a female partner to satsify your allosexuality.
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>>43134917
we're talking about cases where meta attraction becomes just regular attraction after taking hrt
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>>43135231
What about it? I don't doubt it can work like that.

Hormone Level Information: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
Beauty Diagrams: http://imgur.com/r/BeautyDiagrams/new
Chaser Map: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=676816
Informed Consent Providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
Makeup Tutorial: http://imgur.com/a/JO33K/
MTF Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/36HC6ZmT
Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pants http://www.nationalworkwear.com/size_conversion_chart.php
Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge
Holy Mantis: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m25606MEXb1qa135ko1_250.gif

IRC Channel: irc.rizon.net #mtfg
discord hugbox: https://discord.gg/P3g5svrf
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>>43135164
Take off your sissy panties, and shake your ass.
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>>43135222
no one is into me, not even you anon
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>>43135229
Have you tried losing weight, taking a shower, exercising, and the wearing makeup?
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>>43135240
i stopped wearing makeup but still doing the rest yeah

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is it true that the trans community in eastern europe is absolute shit?

Nearly every time I tried socializing with troons from the same country or even close to where I live, it's been AWFUL.

I've been cheated on, made a fool of, lied about, demonized. And the conclusion I have is that the second they realize I have autism, I'm less than human to them, and when they realize I have bpd WHICH IS A REACTIVE DISORDER BTW RETARD, MEANING IF YOU DO DUMB SHIT I **WILL** REACT, I'm demonized the fuck out of
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>>43135213
i think you have enough proof to answer your own question
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>>43135245
fml..


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