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I have recently come to the realization that I actually want to be a man. Wtf do I do now? I feel sick to my stomach knowing that I actually would feel best if I just let myself be a man.
I only ever wanted to be a woman because I wanted to not be myself anymore, but running from oneself unfortunately doesn't really work. Now that I know that my desire to have been a woman is fake, I feel obligated to accept that I am a cis man, even if I can't imagine ever being happy as one. It is what it is, and I have to stop being in denial about it asap
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>>42387498
i mean, asking from a spiritual standpoint or even a cold psychological standpoint - what meaningful part of identity is "cis?" do you think before doing something if it is a 'cis' action - or even a 'male' or 'female' action?

you do not need to conceive of yourself in a gendered sense to develop your identity - and your deeper, intrinsic sense of self that exists before these thoughts and resides within everyone began informing you of qualities of 'self' before you even understood language or boundaries (real or imagined). transitioning is only going to effect the superficial, which may help you feel people can more accurately interpret aspects of your identity but isn't going to change who you are.

no matter what you are seen "as", nobody ever truly sees the depth of another person's identity, and it is likewise an eternally rewarding lacuna even to oneself. try to detox yourself of pre-conceived notions of "male" or "female" and just look and feel how you want to look and feel.

if you don't know what you want in that regard and feel it is always escaping you - try your best to love something and/or someone outside of yourself as unconditionally and with as little assumption as possible. as you love others, you love yourself - because you require 'you' to come to an evaluation in the first place. use what you learn from those feelings and the way you act while feeling them to help find your truth.

be open to experiences and conversation and try to interpret and speak without a filter. unmasking your intuition and simply being who you are is a process of understanding that fulfills itself by traveling - not being stationary. you're not a destination, you're a process.
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>>42387628
This is genuinely really inspiring advice in a way. Especially the reminder that I'm a process rather than a destination, and that I should love others.
Unfortunately though, it still doesn't make being myself any less of a burden. I know it can't, and that it's up to me to do so, but I really feel like I've hit a dead end with trying to figure out how I could make my own existence tolerable for myself.
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>>42387628
all i know is i dont want to look like a man, but the idea of being a woman is stupid, i just feel like an alien or a non entity. i feel embarassed around people that have a gender, like im supposed to be performing one as well and i cant do it.
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>>42387241
Are you the fake dysphoria anon?
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>>42388194
Yea, pretty sure I am who you're thinking of

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Is being trans comorbid with having a bunch of chronic health conditions
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>>42383872
Yes
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>>42383872
yeah pretty often the shit that broke ur sex development pathways enough to make you big gay while fetus, also breaks other shit such as connective tissue and whatnot
e.g. ethler damos however it was spelled syndrome has a p big comorbidity with being transgendernerd
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>>42383872
There are all types of transgender people like there are all types of normal people.
The transgender fad is now normal and society is thinks as transgenders as normal.
So if you're doing anything that the normies do to get in trouble you will get in trouble the same way. If you are harassed, the person harassing you will get in trouble the same way normies do.
There is all types of people , it's when people ban people is when things get bad.
No one is perfect,
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>>42383872
There are some common mutations w/ collagen synthesis and vitamin methylation that can cause chronic illness in trannies.

Plus living while trans is extremely stressful which can exacerbate other issues.
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>>42388148
>The transgender fad is now normal and society is thinks as transgenders as normal
HELLO SAAR

If you felt like your world was falling apart when you heard the news that random instagram/twitter were getting cease and desist letters over spreading trans ideation, good news!
It was all faked by one Black Trans Woman to gather more funds for her kofi so she can do drugs and buy doordash! Mass panic for your own small gain :)
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>>42386396
>got me into the sex trade
The Devil Incarnate
>diddy parties
Tara is so fucking unfunny it hurts.
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“Dolls for trump” wasn’t even a bit.
This is literally the guy’s defense for scandals and she uses it the same way he does. It’s insane she’s only under fire now.
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>>42382300
Trans on trans crimes, and that is why the government had to step in and make laws.
You troons keep fucking your own community.
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>>42382300
I FUCKING KNEW IT! God I feel so vindicated in hating that retarded bitch
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>>42388178
ok but she falsified a document from the government this isn’t trans on trans crime she’s just a dumbass.

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Did anybody else struggle to accept they were dysphoric prior to transition?

I did everything I could to keep myself in denial for quite a while. Stuff like:
>I don't hate my facial hair at all, I just prefer being shaved and feel disgusting when I'm not, and it definitely doesn't feel wrong
>I don't hate my genitals, I'm just don't care about it and it's sometimes annoying, and it definitely doesn't feel wrong
>I don't actually want to be a woman at all. I'm just aware of what can be nice about being a woman, because I'm an open minded man
>I definitely don't mind having a body bigger than that of almost all women. I should be confident of it in fact, as other men would envy me
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>>42380352
why would be in denial about that that's the most obvious thing there is your body is set to it by default
personally i wouldn't approach it by saying real man, real woman or real trans you can take these titles momentarily too while doing something but what are the negative symptoms and what is it that makes it better
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>>42384668
>you just want to be very feminine, but still distinctly male
it's not that it's the only thing you want but this is the best deal you're going to get
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>>42388007
>why would be in denial about that that's the most obvious thing there is your body is set to it by default
Because I've probably mistakenly believe that I wasn't my default in order to blame it as the source of my issues, despite that not being the case, and now I'm too stubborn and prideful to admit that I was wrong. At least it sounds like a likely explanation to me.
I've also spent quite a while being convinced that I'll always be miserable as a man, that it became a self evident truth after a while, preventing me from actually analyzing whether being a man really was what was making me miserable or not.

>but what are the negative symptoms and what is it that makes it better
Sry, but I'm not sure I get what you're referring to with "negative symptoms and what is it that makes it better". Can you please elaborate?
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>>42388122
if you haven't had traditional male upbringing and already considered being male the source of your problems shouldn't your dysphoria be resolved to some extent since you're not burying it under shame
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>>42385132
>i also was still ashamed and embarrassed that i used to be trans whenever i remembered before realizing that i still am. i don't really know why, i just couldn't accept that about myself
"other people are troons, not me"
That's really all there is to it.

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the real AGP litmus test: what's your desktop wallpaper?
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>>42378697
mine is plane green :)
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>>42379745
Are you retarded how can you stand looking at AI
>>42380300
bait
I got really into final fantasy tactics last year im so autistic
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>>42387286
My phone wallpaper
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booomp

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>>just got myself an mtf girlfriend as a repper
>>hopefully my dysphoria would go away if i do her makeup and do her hair everyday

Do you have sexual trauma?

Do you think this influenced your sexuality and/or self perception?

If so could you please explain.
Thankyou!
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>>42387590
It's time for me to overshare. Even now I'm not sure if I would classify this as sexual trauma but it certainly changed me. I was a child with unrestricted internet access and naturally that led me to discovering porn at a young age, but the thing is that I ended up going down a rabbit hole where I got involved with zoophile communities (practicing and nonpracticing) and at times they were the only form of socialization I had. I've never done anything myself and I don't think I ever will, but I have incredibly complicated feelings about this and it feels like because I stumbled across certain spaces at 12 I'm doomed to keep these unprocessed feelings a secret for the rest of my life. I have a lot of self hate from it.
>>42387990
Obviously different topics but this is how I feel too. I really think a lot of things could be avoided if we could be just more open about discussing these. For example I still don't quite understand why zoophilia is wrong and I have no idea how much of that is influenced by what I experienced as a kid. I want to understand and to process this through a conversation with someone but its nature means I can't. I think it's just going to continue existing at the back of my head until I commit suicide someday unfortunately.
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>>42388112
i am gonna need some more details here. i mean i had my own fetish community to discover when i was 12 but it wasnt, ahem, that
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Yes

I was an extremely sexual child and it haunts me every single day, I feel utterly disgusting for the things I did and the regret has driven me to the verge of suicide multiple times. I hope to be able to forgive myself one day, but it's hard.
In relationships and such it only really manifests as me needing an immense level of trust to have sex with someone and having the occasional wailing crying mental breakdown every now and then.
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>>42388147
What details do you want
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>>42388172
to what degree were you involved in these communities? was it just talking or were there real pics/videos? are you still aroused by this sort of thing?

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why are zoomers starting to hate us again?
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>>42388103
The yapping loses its weight if there's nothing to yap about. 90% of the backlash trannies get isn't even from the initial things that occur, it's from the legions of retards who come out in support/defense of it.
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>>42388125
its already lost its weight, but that doesnt matter. the entire point of it is to keep its base riled up so that when they next act it can be with maximum engagement.
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>>42388047
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>>42388128
It's normal people that you should be worried about, not rabid conservatives.
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>>42388150
normal people have already been dragged along and set. the damage has been done and the only effective antidote will be dragging them back. normies are passive.

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>18 mtf, boymoder
>10mo hrt
>18in bidelt, 40in hip circ, 34 inch waist, no measurement for underbust yet
>5'8
>Down from 220lbs pretransition to 185, 28.3 bmi
Am I fucked or will I be okay? Idk why my left boob looks smaller than my right in picrel, I think I was accidentally flexing my pec or something, it's not normally like that.

Also sorry for the unshaven legs, lawl, and the shit quality of the photo in general, this was taken just to ask.
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>>42383634
i just gooned to this
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>>42383634
Body of a 60 yo unc
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>>42383634
Cuddles, Beer, me giving you head, and passionate sex. Also asking you to never leave.
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>>42383634
You're fine.
Leave this place. Come back after 2030.
No, I'm serious!
Live in the real world!
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>>42383634
>>42388156

this

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this is the gen for trans people who pass every day. not a place for chasers to collect photos for their Folder, or a place for repressors to talk about shoulders. this is a place to talk about the mechanics of passing, and how to exist in a cis world as a trans person

because of federal overreach, true "stealth" is

>>qott
when was the first time you passed? how did you feel?
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>>42386233
I’ve had several things to know despite insecurities I pass, guys hit on me, women get changed or shower in front of me without batting an eye, I’ve been asked when my last period was by drs, I’ve had friends say things along the lines of when you get pregnant
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>>42377940
the only time i truly felt like i had passed and not just pity passed was when i was in the psych ward after a suicide attempt. me and a few other women were hanging around the lounge area in the evening and i made a joke about an ex boyfriend of mine being trans and how i was straight with extra steps (cringe ik). one of the ladies gave a "huh?? what's the extra step?" and i said "oh, because i'm trans too", and she said "OH oh my gosh i didn't know"
i looked like shit in sweats and a sweater and no makeup and horrible hair (bc psych ward) so it was hopefuel... and i still remember it over a year later

another passing story from that stay in the psych ward was talking in group about how i felt like a bitch for saying it, but it hurts and upsets me seeing some of you doing better and having hope after being here an even shorter time than me, like it feels like i'm just broken when the healing process works for you guys or maybe you're just better at faking it so you can get out of here sooner. and the guy who spoke after me said something like "pardon the term but it took balls to say that" which i feel would be insane to say to a trans woman (but then again i was literally in the psych ward so)
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Stealth for over a decade and then got outed to my regular GP, who handles mundane shit like antibiotics, by the government's new central medical document system because it secretly kept sex at birth on record and now made it visible to everyone who has access. Literally, what was the point of changing my birth certificate?
Does anyone have any luck with fake ID's and using that to start a fresh record.
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>>42386065
>i think a cis woman giving me any sort of compliment is an indication i'm not passing
It's common way for cis women to make friends between each other, compliment hair, nails, etc.

Seen it said to other cis women so it's not a clocking thing for sure.
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>>qott
>>at work
>>have an overtly feminine name (no wiggle room)
>basically tell anyone who asks that im a transgender woman
>no voice training
>casually mention that im leaving for 3 months for bottom surgery to a coworker
>she's extremely confused until i flat out state that im a tranny
>tfw i return to work she harasses me every day for 5 months until she gets fired

that was when i decided to put in effort

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I found a pornstar who looks exactly like my HSTS twinkhon crush and I've been gooning to her old BDSM videos. I pretend it's my post-srs crush and me (fully clothed dom) in the video, but I would do those things to her pre-srs too if she'd be willing, I just want to ravage and sexually humiliate her.

This is the only way I can have her. There's no way she'll ever view me as a real man, I've already given up on trying to court her because I know it's hopeless, not that she's likely to be into this shit anyway. I know she subconciously views me as her safe lesbian friend, and it's why she feels comfortable joking to me about how much she resents her attraction to men. I laugh along and support her but inside I feel broken.

St4t is a myth. She has 0 reason to settle for me, she's so beautiful that she could have anyone she wants, but I'm a dickless dwarf, dating pool fodder. But I accept this. If I just keep jacking off then maybe I could get it out of my system.
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>>42388144
Fletcher should take the estrogen. The long midface works in her favour.

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any trannies who are obsessed with winter sports?

my mom also sent me to the figure skating club when i was four and i’m obsessed with the ice and snow ever since
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>>42385114
That's interesting, skimo is a lot bigger in Europe than in the US. All the major races are over there and euro resorts tend to be a lot more accommodating of uphilling.

Idk about ice climbing though. A lot of people in the US will go to ice parks like Ouray or Winona when they're starting out but I dunno if anything like that exists in Europe
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>>42385197
really? in my eyes europe is all about groomers and carving on racing skis

but maybe that’s just germany?

i always thought europe is about carving and groomers and us about free riding

but that was my perspective as a german
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>>42384858
those skiis are pretty...
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>>42384858
i like to ski and we just got a bunch of snow up here, but i need to get my skis tuned up before i can go againnnn :(
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I do a bit of everything! Skiing, skating & snowmobiling!

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>>42385653
and we'll steal them all AND rape their men
be scared
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>>42383695
Very funny how she's so close to getting it
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>>42383647
>i have the magical power to make retarded 40 year old women sniff their own minge in an attempt to spite me
now if only i could somehow convince them to sniff some other womans minge and fuck off.
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>>42384146
>Men who believe in transgenderism based on hotness
That's me!

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Why'd you let the previous thread die?

QOTT: What are you looking forward to in life?
QOTT2: You don't deserve a second one. Make it up yourselves.

Ignore trolls
Ignore spam

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>>42387640
I've posted this here before. My pics are limited because working on the plants makes me dirty, so I'm not likely to pick up the phone. And I'm 95% sure your flowers on the left are zinnias (the orange flower in the top right of picrel).
Also you have amazing artwork. You could tell ftmg was suffering when we didn't see your art.
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>>42387780
Wow these are really pretty, so healthy...
>I'm not likely to pick up the phone
Awesome.
I think I picked the top right many years ago when I lived in Texas. I pressed them and my dad put it into something he made for me (He's into some pegan shit)
Here's more art before I pass out + aforementioned pegan shit.
I need to quit my job I have work in 6 hours I need to kill myself.
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>>42387823
But if you kill yourself, we can't see your art in ftmg anymore. Don't let the poonslop win. Also very nice proportions btw, that's peak male performance.
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>>42387734
I would guess yes
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>>42387734
Organ transplants are something thats possible now and things generally get better and more advanced as time goes on. I could see it being a possibility.
But that would mean the two individuals would need to swap genitals before they transition and start hrt?

Dating an early transition trans girl is like "build the perfect girlfriend" for real. It's really, really hot.
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>>42388062
The hard part is finding someone as an early transition trans girl
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>>42388062
the best part is getting to imprint your personality and kinks onto her permanently


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