um so im 19 and my parents want me to wait until im done with college to transition
I waited until I finished college and my mind was so fucked up I couldn't bear it, by the time I started the damage was already too advanced, took me years to get back to normal and realize I was always wrong. Repping is poison.
Trooning in college is your best chance to be well integrated, it just gets harder after and you risk getting completely brain raped by repression.
>>42236461>they'll know the moment they come home for spring break just by lookin' at themMy parents didn't know for 3 years. Granted, I wasn't living with them anymore but they did see me every 7 months or so.They only noticed something was off when I was suddenly happier, more pleasant to be around and the voice training kinda was seeping into my "normal" speech. And even then still had no idea what exactly happened until I told them.
>>42236346its a big changeeee tho to like everything
HELP
Do men really think that grotesquely large breasts like this are actually attractive???
>>42234781Anon it’s fine that you’re small chested but it’s like extremely gross to say she’s deformed, like get off your body shaming high horses
>>42235418It's just a sour grapes tranny and gayden dysphoria reminder thrashing thread
>>42234781Tbh Ive had a long running theory that men have no upper end for stimulus where it becomes too much. This is why they ste more extreme with sexuality, and why their preferred dating age stays young girls even as they get old honestly would probably be below 18 if surveys went that low.
>>42234781Yes.Prime breeding form, Venusian beyond your comprehension. A body designed to trigger every breeding instinct in a man's body in spite of his better judgement.The reason most people here are disagreeing is self interest. Either they're flimsy twinks trying to pass their goods off as women, the people trying to fuck them and thus pandering, pooners who have dysphoria about it and gay men who don't care. So it's just the lesbians and bisexuals that would even be interested or honest about it and I find even a lot of lesbians don't really go in for the venus body so mostly just bisexuals. It's just the wrong crowd to ask.
yes, that's hot af.
>23 khv>decide to troon out>have an internal crisis at 25 but somehow come out with a desire to work>get better job at 26>get ffs and trach shave>social life improves beyond my wildest imaginations>finally starting to love living>get into voice training, walking and other minute mannerisms (many thanks to a theater teacher who for some reason liked me)>lose virginity at 27 with a man>get a short fling with a woman>meet my bf at 28>now at 30 and been living together for almost two yearsSurely I can't be the only former sad incel neet here?
>>42232449>>42235776Idk why being called a transmaxxer makes me feel weird. But I guess the intentions don't matter to anyone and the result is way too close to transmaxxing for anyone to care about nuance.>like op being 165cm/5'5in tall jesus christGranted. My height was an absolute curse as a man, but a strong foundation for transition.But otoh I spent over €40k just on ffs alone. I'm still not done paying down the debt on that.One of my consistent cisf friends is 177cm (5'9?) and while she towers over most women she also looks kinda like a hon. The reason I bring this up is to underscore that more often than not the "it's over" story may not be quite true.I'm not trying to deny your neuroticism, >>42235776 , in fact I really hope you find a way to make things better. But I am saying that embracing a mentality aimed at winning usually does make things better (yes, not equally better for everyone, but still).Tearing yourself down won't make things better.But taking some of the actionable advice might.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>42236092to be fair in your case it does genuinely sound like it was either transition or suicide so while i think your transition would still reasonably be called transmaxxing its at least a much more genuine attempt than many others.and im mostly just seething bc ive wanted to be feminine basically my whole life and was lowkey forced by my parents and surroundings to be into girls but bc of religious upbringing i had no idea what trans people even were until puberty was pretty much done. now im ~181cm with an outlandish jaw, shoulder, and ribcage combo and the possibility of living just a normal womans life seems nonexistent (which i know is irrational and defeatist especially bc im not even 21 yet)anyway sorry for yapping but genuinely glad that worked out for u op, i hope all that effort keeps paying off and u live a fulfilling rest of ur life <3
You barely mentioned you parents. How did they react? Do you still have a relationship with them? Are you their only child?
>>42222223If ig this right, you started transition around 2017.How did you manage to stay course through the whole online trans mania?Asking because i nearly didnt start due to how offputting too many spaces were.Related, how did you resist the urge not to honmode or post pics everywhere?
>>42229842I did feminize my original name and added a middle name that for some reason I always liked. I kept my last name. I probably will take my bf's name if/when we get married.I mentioned a bit about parents here >>42224476To add, my dad was more supportive than my mom. He always felt that something was wrong with me so from his perspective this at least answered the question.Mom was more meh about it. But then later on she offered to help me with clothing. Tbh she wasn't that good.As for extended family, I'm mostly disconnected from them. Grandparents died when I was still a kid and the wider extended family (aunts, uncles, etc.) were kinda dicks so one by one they were excluded by my dad (and I agreed with him then, and still agree with him now).>>42236643Yes, I am their only child.Yes, I still have a relationship with them. But more closer with dad. They're still married and getting ready to retire.My mom has gotten more accepting since I moved in with my bf. Any doubt she might have had about this being a phase likely got blown out by 2024 when I sent her a vacation photo from Spain.In a way it is a blessing (even though I saw it as a curse at 23) that there are basically no people who knew me before transition. For everyone who knows me, i've always been a woman from their perspective.I didn't focus on my parents at all because they had no contribution. And I would've been perfectly fine if they rejected me too.My former self low-key resented them for raising me poorly. But now I can't be bothered even to resent them. It is what it is. Life's too short to dwell on stuff that happened 15+ years ago.
've been targeted by a lot of "trans women after 5 minutes" people who flirt with me at first sight, even had some admit they masturbated to me within a few days of interaction, and it seems people on xitter/tiktok partake in this as well and seem to encourage it further. Oh and god forbid they hear of a troon who's a top, then they all lose their minds.I have my own theory as to what ultimately causes the widespread acceptance of this hypersexuality and lack of boundary respect but I wanna hear yours.
>>42231995I reckon you are prettier than most other trans women. You see, nearly all of them are primarily gynephilic even when they pretend to be bi but cannot acquire a cis gf, so they attempt to snatch the more attractive trans girls. Then there is the incel sexual frustration factor and trans "community" feeling of belonging eroding their ethical boundaries. Another thing you already figured out is that almost all of us are sub bottoms; you are very scarce and in high demand.
>>42232271My theory mainly consists in social ostracization leading to the sexual frustration and desperation in people like this, people who eventually crab pull everyone into their circle.Eventually bad apples in communities become a majority and replace the normies, kind of like what the self improvement brosphere turned into from what I've heard. Alas, normalization.
Have you ever had trans people assume you wanted sex when you just wanted to be friends and told them multiple times you didn't feel ready for a committed relationship? Happened to me with a theyfab.
>>42234094with six trans women. yes. and they kept tryin to push my boundaries AFTER the fact as well.
>>42232856>i used to have 5 discord e-gf kittens bro im so cool
is being a cisf chaser more gay or straight? trying to introspect here and running into a wall.
>>42235721>>42235867genital attraction is a separate thing. If she passes its gay if she is clocky then it is bi.
>>42235721Cisf chasers only want trannies until they realize their dickgirl fantasy isn't really and trannies are autistic limp dicked losers at which point their fetish turns into wanting to watch their gf get fucked by big hairy cis men
It depends on the type of trans women you're into. If you like manly hons, then it's spicy straight. If you like pretty women with dicks, then it's very gay
>>42236328My gock gets hard and I've always been the leader in groups. We're out there.
>>42235721what color is your hair and what's your sun & moon signs? i'm curious......
I've started hrt while still unsure whether I really want to transition or not. With hrt starting to have an effect on my body, it has forced me to confront reality, and I've realized that transitioning is something I really don't want for myself. I don't actually want to be a woman, I don't actually want the effects of hrt, the effort required will not make me any happier, because I have a firm male identity.I've only ever came so far thinking I may be trans, because I was foolish enough to believe that "the grass is greener on the other side". Not in any "women have it easier" sense, but in a "I wouldn't have ever been so miserable if I were a woman" sense. I was delusional enough to believe this for quite a while, and kept myself in denial that I'm only so miserable as a man, not because I hate being a man, but because I loathe being myself."Being a woman", and thus also the gender dysphoria I faked to myself, was just a scapegoat for me to blame all my flaws, shortcomings, and failures on a non-existent issue.Despite all of that, I still haven't stopped taking hrt, even though it's making me feel horrible, as I know that I will come to severely regret it. Every week when it's time to take my shot, I have completely freak out at how I'm destroying my life, being crippled by dread and disgust at what I'm doing, yet I still keep doing my shot, each time justifying it with "It won't do much. Just one more won't hurt.", and then severely regretting it immediately after. Then I keep gaslighting myself that I actually enjoy the changes, so I don't have to face reality, and confront my own mistakes head on.I am too weak-willed and foolish to break my own denial and delusions, and I'm actively tearing my life apart because of it. How can I actually accept that I truly am cis, and find the willpower to overcome my self-hatred in a more constructive manner?
>>42236949exogenous estrogen didn’t even exist until the mid 20th century and only a tiny percentage of the population take it, there’s nothing normal about it and yes I would apply the same logic to any meds that alter your appearance
>>42237015then stop if it's so bad, hypocrite
>>42236800why do all the men on this website have the exact same voice
>>42237084I want to but it’s hard that’s what this whole fucking thread is about
>>42236800>why do this if you arent gaycause men are ugly as FUCK
I remember thinking it'd be really hot if the girl I had a crush on had a penisI was 15 and had not seen trans porn
>>42235983No, you read that a third of self ID bi men are proto troons. Two thirds are not.
>>42236038Oh ok my bad. Yes that's accurate and that's what I mean. And even among that remaining 2/3rds there are probably just a lot of gynandromorphophiles (chasers) that don't have a lot of attraction to masculine men.
>>42236059Now consider that most bi guys won't admit to being bi when they can just love and fuck cis women easily.
>>42236082And from that you get "most men are bisexual"?
Not a troon or a chaser (I'm now a proud self improoover and AGP denialist) but maybe these count. >used to browse copypastas on Encylopedia Dramatica and was obsessed with one where the MC dresses up as a girl and gets fucked by his best friend. >would always buy the tightest spandex underwear that felt like how I imagined a thong would feel >remember the gym teacher explaining male vs. female puberty in sex ed class and thinking how hot it would be to go through that. >saw a trans timeline before I even really knew what it was and felt weirdly excited
>post AI generated boymoder thread>it gets hundreds of replies>post AI generated bottom thread>it gets like 3 replies at mostwhat causes this?
>>42236196I'm from North Carolina, but on vacation in Florida
>>42236032depends, are you hot?
>>42236188>lmao who gets on 4chan in the morningJeets dont have much free time, the rest is raping and scamming
>>42236032Hope that you'd ask me to be your chaser whiteboi beta cuck and let me wear a pink cage while you have sex with your BBC daddy
>>42236321Im a PAWG;3
/lesgen/ is the lesbian general for all cis women and trans women (MtF) to discuss lesbian relationships and topics.Be kind to each other and report/ignore trolls who attempt to divide trans mtf lesbians and cis lesbians as a community. This includes transphobic bigotry, femmephobia, butchphobia, racism, and anti-c4t/t4t slop. This is nice thread. :)QOTT>How do you handle conflict in your romantic relationships?>What causes are you passionate about? >How would you describe your fashion style? What is your favorite clothing piece you own?tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/%2Flesgen%2Fdiscord: https://discord.gg/bAnVMAGPNRold thread: >>42193235
>>42235596Nah, you’re good. Not referring to you.
>>42235619oh okie :3
>>42221830dated an idiot for a while and that killed my hope for dating. i don’t know if i’m borderline asexual or something and pretty sure i’m some flavor of enby. feel like i am prone to falling too deeply for people and that scares me. this and a healthy dose of catholic guilt.
>>42234379that's just jordan
>>42236845and luz
If I were a hot (and more importantly) WHITE male there is no way I would ever even think about transitioning
>>42236926Idk what ur trying to say here bc sigourney looks way prettier to me, the Asian woman looks uncanny
>>42236695god left is so fucking hot i would let her destroy me
>>42236969actually psychotic
>>42236969I don't have to say anything, you're perfectly capable of discrediting your own opinion.
>>42237004well sorry I just don’t understand how anyone could choose that plastic featureless pancake face over an authentic beauty like Sigourney Weaver, like I can’t even comprehend what’s going through your mind
Cartoon family dad "picrew"Guess letters, ignore lazy posters, you know the drill. May be a bit janky since it's an archive.https://web.archive.org/web/20210225065221/https://familyguyyourself.com/
>>42229422bi mtf>>42232045bi ftm
>>42233410>either MTF or chaserbi guy actually not reddit bisexual either
>>42233625ftm or cis?
>>42233924cis
Why do trannies like getting assfucked???
>>42236387>I should sacrifice my gains If your 'gains' are societal conformity, that only counts as currency to the lowest common denominator. The reality is that you haven't gained anything, you've just suppressed your individuality to try and get a bunch of normies to like you. I've done it, you've done it, most of my friends have done it, in all cases it's equally pitiful, and in all cases it fosters no real relationships since they are all built on superficiality from the start.>Do you give this discourse to the women in your life?Not sure what discourse you're referring to in particular, but I pretty much always say what I want to say to people, and I'd expect them to do the same for me.>I want to help guys, but not at the expense of my hard earned gains. I'm not jesus christ. I'm just a tranny who actually likes men.Way to miss the point entirely. >>42236462I'm a transbian, and I'm in a longterm relationship.I don't expect anyone to accommodate anyone, but I despise societal conformity. It's what conservatism is built on.
>>42236738>I'm a transbianSo you're faketrans?
>>42236738>but I pretty much always say what I want to say to people, and I'd expect them to do the same for meGood for you. I'm sure this bodes really well for your future.Nona, you sound like a teenager. Life is long. You wont be 25 forever. You won't be cute forever. And you are not an island.At some point, this behavior will catch up with you. It's fun to larp as a rebel when young. Many/most people do it. Until the bulldozer of reality hits and you're poor, nobody wants to employ you, everybody is sick and tired of your contrarian shit and you're not cute anymore to compensate.There is a reason the world produces a lot more normies and a lot fewer trannies and autists. Being a normie has a lot of advantages. Otherwise more of us would be born.>The reality is that you haven't gained anythingThe reality is that you're a bratty cunt. Here's the attention you ordered.Grow up!
>>42236738>I'm a transbian, and I'm in a longterm relationship.well that explains it. different costs/benefits nona. it's one thing to rebel when you're already beyond the pale (or they don't take you seriously), and another when you still have your non-leper privileges and are expected to know how to behave like an adult in polite company. it's why we don't force normal stealth trans girls to out themselves for optics, for example
>>42229295hashem had the grace to give me something that’s close enough and I’d be silly not to make use of it
>be me>mentally unstable tranny, was sexually abused by multiple people including my own brother when I was a child>recently have bizarre string of unexplainable dreams, no incest ones thus far>one night, dream of having to get ready for something with my brother>were talking about something when the topic of sex comes up and I mention that I’ve been super sexually inactive>brother says he can’t imagine it>starts getting really handsy with me and says he’d be willing to help out>push him away and angrily tell him I have no interest>think about it for 0.00000001 zeptoseconds>my depravity wins out and I agree to a blowjob>he’s big, too wide for my mouth and so long it measures from the tip of my middle finger all the way to the base of my wrist>take it all the way down to my throat while giving him the most attentive blowjob of my life>he says he loves it when I get cockdrunk like that>can hear my parents approaching>I wake upComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>42227551Yeah, it's an indie story-based game. It really hit me in many unexpected ways. It's such a unique experience, so if you do check it out, I hope you enjoy it.
>>42227650Thank you for the recommendation nona, will be sure to give it a look.
>>42225986do you have an incest kink op
>>42231386No, why would you even ask that
>>42225986For the love of all that is good, you do not need to read narrative or moral sense into it. You'll just get trapped in an endless rabbithole of analysing and recontextualising that never leads to anything ultimate because reality is the dream of eternity and if you get hung up on any one thing it just leads to more and more shit.For those of us who have had abject childhoods I honestly think the best thing for us is to submit our lives to making art and making improvements in our community. If you have a healthy body, take good care of it. If you have hereditary issues, like I do, well, my plan is to live hedonistically and then OD on fent or anaesthetics when I get too sick or too old. If I live the rest of my life inbetween then and now in the right spirit and accept there is nothing for me after I struggle to believe I will be punished for that.
>Qott: would you want the picrel to happen to you? or would you rather do it to someone else?
>>42236938usa, southeast
>>42236950im northeast unfortunately
>>42236961damn, oh well
>>42236968sooo eager, do u lurk this thread constantly?
>>42236971i actually just got lucky and checked it as soon as you posted...okay and yeah after that i just spammed the refresh button i do that a lot
