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collections edition ??
i realized that i can just make a new thread. so i'm doing that. itt we help each other achieve voice goals :)

>QOTT
do you collect something? tell us about it in a voca.ro
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>>42247675 kinda a bump but also!!
https://voca.ro/1oHb2ahgqMtQ
i forgot to say in the voice message too but i got called sir at the dining hall after i ordered food today. it made me actually really sad because i think a lot of my self worth hinges on passing so even though it was the first time in like forever that ive been read as male by a stranger it kinda ruined my day. sigh

>>42250320
>posted other peoples vocaroo
lol i almost did that a few times

>>42252446
i actually agree that you sound like a pre-t ftm or a really young teenager lol. either way its really good for only 1 month

>>42252517
you sound so 1995. which is good since 1979 came out then lol . its a nice voice but i would say a little bit weighty

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https://voca.ro/1ltYJpaUi9Bg
flips my yankees cap backwards + lipbite

>>42260434
i started listening to ur vocaroo but i havent read part 2 yet so i had to stop in case of spoilers .. sorry nona. but for the 10 seconds i heard u sound rlly excited i hope u enjoy it!
>>42255941
have to work on the foundations more, but already off to a good start! weight/pitch/reso etc, keep at it and youll be there in no time!
>>42252517
i love your singing and i love this song and omg
>>42248598
stop apologizing or im gonna fight u. yes you are going in the right direction, just more reso work but the foundation is already setting in well :)
>>42247675
hi again buddy! your acquaintances are weird as fuck! drop them!
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>>42260434
i also did not listen to your vocaroo bc i wanna experience Chainsaw Man myself at some point lol BUT! in the first tennish seconds your voice takes on a sort of darker quality (likely due to your excitement) which might be clocked by other tranners but it is still tantamount to perfect, especially to cis people...i'm very sorry you were misgendered :( certainly not due to your voice, thoigh, you should rest assured. i think i have been getting misgendered almost regularly lately but it is hard to tell because it's never, like, to my face lol and i can't determine exactly what they're saying or about whom. i wonder if it is because of the awesome fucking jacket i stole from my dad
>its a nice voice but i would say a little bit weighty
ok but what is the Gender how does it read..........i have been trying to not state that the goal is androgyny too explicitly bc i do not want to influence opinions but nobody is giving me any!!!!! please.....
also this is not how i typically sing so it is nice to hear it still sounds good. thank you :)
>>42260547
you forgot to wring your hands and lean slightly backward
still a lovely voice lol
>i love your singing
grrr thank you but see above i need opinions i need thoughts i need to know what i sound like.......i beg
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>>42260547
>>42260814
noooo the second voice message (>>42260434) doesnt have any spoilers besides that there is a fight happening (i dont even say between who!!!)
>>42260814
>darker quality
brooding and mysterious and shit
anyway YOUR voice definitely is androgynous. i went into it thinking mtf so it felt clocky but if youre trying to sound androgynous it working well! it reads "tranny" to me but i think most cis people wouldnt get that part and would just get the androgynous part

>>42260547
this is good . idk what else to say :)
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>>42258478
I'm pretty new to all of this stuff, but I think you sounded spot on all the way through! If I was going to be super nitpicky, I think "time" in "cool kids never have the time" had a tiny waver in resonance or something? Literally a split second out of almost four minutes. I really like that you were able to emulate the slight gravelly feel of Corgan's singing style, the whole thing gave me alt-rock tomboy vibes.

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>>42260434
>>42260547
Thank you all so much for the guidance! I've followed along with a few pitch and resonance lessons on youtube, but the concept of weight is new to me so that'll be the next thing I check out. I feel very lucky to be here for this thread!

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Have any ftms taken androgens other than testosterone/taken high dosage testosterone? What are your experiences? Other roid users welcome.
>my experience
I've taken 200mg test + 100mg mast/wk for a few months before. All my bloodwork was fine. My hairline receded a bit (working on it) but I gained a ton of facial and some body hair. Ever since then it seems like a switch has flipped and I'm masculinizing so much better now. My voice has even changed. My muscles filled out a bit, though admittedly I didn't try hard enough in that regard, though my delts are unrecognizable compared to pre t, round and full. I feel great on testosterone, though I worry for my health an struggle to stay on track with injections.
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>>42260683
are you taking the same quantity as me though?? i feel like shooting two months worth of testosterone in 1 week would be a lot and probably have the opposite effect due to aromatization
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>>42260727
That's not what I mean. Since you're effectively taking 83mg/wk (1000mg/12 weeks) you'd be taking either 160mg every 2 weeks or 80mg every week.
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>>42260505
Wtf should I take mast? I'm sick of having a face that looks like a hairy woman/14 year old's
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>>42260398
I just wanted to take a weaker roid so I can consider myself basically natty lmao
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>>42261372
mast will masculinize you

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>>42261776
posting your face is the only way to get fanart
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>>42261787
if its fanart like this >>42261723 then i dont want any
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>>42261777
accept my friend request bro
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>>42261813
I'm busy
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need bf or trans gf taller than 6 feet that will call me a good girl and be really protective of me and make me sit on her lap and look at her pleaseeeeeeee
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how tall are you
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>>42259416
5’11
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>>42259443
twin except im only into men TT
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being too tall kinda blows icl

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do trannies still like goreshit

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Post 'em if you got' em
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>>42261789
new boymoding gear just dropped

Homura edition

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>QotT
Who's your waifu/husbando?

Tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/%2Fbigen%2F

FAQ:
>Am I bi if I like women and femboys/traps?
>Am I bi if there's this one member of the same-sex I'm desiring, but normally I like the opposite sex?
>Am I bi if I sexually like both sexes, but only interested in romance with one of them?
Yes, sexual attraction to both sexes is bisexuality.
>Do you have presents ready for me Santa?

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>>42255839
Thanks, mane, I mean that

>>42255839
>some people have opinions, this means that those opinions are actually facts!

Did you go to a random subreddit or to a reddit that was about rough sex or BDSM? If you went to a "normie" subreddit, no shit a bunch of pearlclutchers are going to voice their opinion because they always do when sex is the topic.

Also, if you were already finding partners to do this with consensually before, what's the problem? And sure, some subs into degradation are working through trauma, that's why you have to talk to your sub and not just jump into these kinds of things all willy nilly. Any serious person into BDSM will tell you that.

Note that I'm one of those people who hates rough sex and wouldn't date anyone who needed to call me a whore or slut or whatever, and I get pretty frustrated with how many people seem to act as if rough/degrading kinks are the only ones that exist. Like, I just want to get bred, have group sex and maybe have sex outdoors, sheesh.

But yeah, just go to a subreddit for rough sex or BDSM, and you'll get your mojo back.
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>>42261150
>am straight
>describe the gayest shit ever

Boooo, get new material!
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Anxiety anon back. Holy shit I guess I really am Bi. I was just out in town and I saw the buff dude and without even being concious about it I thought to myself “he’s really cute”

Idk what tf I’m gonna do. I can never come out, I’m straight passsing 100% and guess I’ll just stick to bi women. My grandma is incredibly queerphobic but she loves me to death and I have an inheritance of millions coming my way if I don’t fuck that up. Coming out will 100% fuck that up. I’m just gonna have to bury this deep inside till she dies. Gonna get a stiff drink
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>>42261557
Thanks anon <3
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I’ll keep getting ripped and drinking at queer bars and maybe my problems will magically go away

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when is this faggot gonna get blacked. she is bouta reach twink death soon.
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>>42259832
Finn is too much of a pussy to even film videos because his nose is still fucking massive. You will never see this faggot getting fucked on cam.
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>>42259868
already got FFS. look at the pics of her jaw when she was a guy
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>>42261417
he's had a nose job. but the jaw looks untouched. I don't think he has ever discussed the surgery he has had already though has
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>>42261494
The old nose was fine, even if it was more masc.
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>>42261494
he had the AGP smirk even before transitioning

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would you date someone who's broke and doesn't work?
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>>42260606
No, because they’d have to be way out of my league physically, and then I have such resentment and seething towards attractive people that supporting one financially would still bother me too much.
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>>42260606
My bf is homeless and he's the sweetest angel ever and i wouldn't trade our relationship for anything
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Even if my bf went homeless id still love him just as much <3
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Homo, the shorthand of home owner
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>>42260606
yes
the guy of my dreams was unemployed for almost a year but i loved him just the same
but he was more of an exception, if it was someone i just met i'd be wary

Tbh femboys (the ones with good hygiene not the discord basement rats) are perfect in every way and deserve everything in the world. Currently in the process of potentially asking one out on a date, hope it works out so I can spoil him. Would love to hear how to perfectly rizz them up.

This has been a femboy appreciation post, you guys are lovely and perfect in every way.
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>>42261687
I'm 26 and I have a thing for cute femboy tops...
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>>42261670
>anon you are incredible!! Thank you for these tips, useful for everyone lol
Awww, thanks anon!!! ^_^
I try my best.
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>>42261696
Are you cute nona...
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>>42261726
I try to be :(

Need FFS though and I'm a bit on the tall/wide side and often butchmode to accomodate. Judge for yourself tho.
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>>42261747
Hmm. Send your disc. Maybe we can click idk

Reminder: This gen is for cis females with gender dysphoria. This is not a trans man gen. All posts that are considered off-topic should be directed to other generals, threads or boards.
Keep the discussion exclusively about female repressing or fuck off.
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>>42258461
get u on a diet and some err cardio
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>>42258502
that’s just poor lower pec definition not gyno lmao
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>>42257332
do you maybe feel disassociated (or whatever the correct word is) from your body?
I'm am frequently distressed by my body but not constantly, people frequently call me out for taking extraordinarily shit care of myself and looking bad all the time though because I just don't care about myself like this and don't want to draw any attention or think about it.
You seeing a guy and getting suicidally jealous is not completely normal.
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>>42261561
Nope, while I may not be perfectly in tune with my body and it's needs I'm definitely not estranged from it either. Sometimes if I get a bit too wrapped in my fantasies or get fixated on a certain guy I want to look like I might experience a bit of shock when I see my reflection, but otherwise I'm usually completely aware of how I look at all times. I even compulsively check my appearance ever time I'm near a mirror or an even slightly reflective surface.
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>>42258502
Oh my stars, will you leave it alone! Guys have a different shap bods.

I'm a top trapped in a bottom's body
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I'm a man trapped in a male body that looks like a female body
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>>42261600
SRS
>>42261612
>trapped
boy it sounds like you're literally in the best body you could be
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>>42261721
>boy it sounds like you're literally in the best body you could be
explain
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>>42259555
did you accidentally use superglue instead of lube?
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>>42259555
That's the best kind

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about 2y ago I realized I’m not trans and decided to detroon. I got rid of all my fem clothes, cancelled all my laser appts and stopped talking to all troons. I felt a lot happier for a while, like I was finally free from a horrible chapter of my life. Problem is I haven’t been able to stop taking e. I don’t even think it’s bc I like the effects on my body which have been pretty minimal, I think it’s mostly bc the last time I stopped I started having agp thoughts again which made me go insane for a week or so. Ever since then I’ve been procrastinating stopping. Thinking about maybe trying ssris to block my sex drive while I go off do u think that would work?
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>>42261500
no one cares about male detrooners
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>>42261420

Problem is when you've been on E for a long time, just like what happens with bodybuilders (anyone taking exogenous hormones) is your body isn't gonna make any for a while.

It's not like the moment you stop taking estradiol and your levels return to normal do your gonads actually work. People who take steroids have the same thing happen, your balls are atrophied and normal production can take a *long* time to come back if it ever does. If you're serious about getting function back as a guy it's gonna be a bit painful and is gonna require money for blood tests and meds and what not.

What you're gonna do is essentially the same thing roider guys do inbetween cycles or when getting off roids. The meds risk here ranges from not that bad to potentially having vision problems but i'll put together a basic Detransition/PCT protocol for you.

Step 1: Stop taking estradiol. What type of estradiol were you taking? Longer acting forms are gonna be tougher than shorter acting ones. If you were taking pills it's not that bad, if you were on injections it's gonna be rougher. Find a source for enclomifine citrate and HCG.

Step 2: After 4 half lives of the respective type of estradiol you were on (google it, enanthates like 5 days pills are like 24 hours) then go get bloodwork done that includes at minimum your estradiol level, though testosterone and LH/FSH are also good bonus points but not necessary at this stage. I can already tell you that testosterone is gonna be low and LH/FSH are gonna be near undetectable.

Step 3: If your estradiol level is under 40-50pg/mL then you're ready to start taking the meds. If your levels are still in the 100's then you need to wait longer.

Step 4: follow this protocol

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>>42261626
>>42261420

At week 4 you can either stick to 25mg per day until week 6, or go down to 12.5mg if the sides are too rough.

Ideally you stick with this for another month or two.


Get blood work done that includes FSH/LH and Testosterone and check if above 350ng/dL. If so, titrate down over the next few weeks. If not, then it's gonna take longer.


Enclomifine isn't as rough on sides as clomifine. I do not suggest using regular clomifine or tamoxifin though both will achieve the same thing (diff dose though and with potentially more side effects.).
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>>42261660
Anyway from a pharmacological point of view that's my take on detrooning.

Psychologically though, I can't help with that. Go see a therapist.
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>>42258139

The best cure for AGP thoughts is straight sex with a cisgendered woman that you're attracted to. Or at minimum topping another man if you prefer those.

Stay away from trans stuff for a while, as much as they talk about brainworms a lot of AGP stuff is in itself wormy as fuck.

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i thought i was repping but it turns out i was just getting over my rogd
ive accepted that i do wish i could have been born a woman but transition isnt really worth it given that my preference isnt really strong enough to warrant all of that
ive still got leftover small breasts from being on hrt for ~9mo but desu binding has reduced them significantly to the point where i dont have to wear it unless im wearing an especially tight shirt (basically never)
the only real problem is stretch marks on like the inside of my arms and i think on my legs but ive got time to figure that out
i can say with confidence now that im not a woman and im not trans and that im just a regular faggot
thank god
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>>42260523
ok tranny
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>>42261114
>im not dysphoric
>id rather have been born a woman
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>>42260523
how big did ur boobs get. Idk if im have rogd or what but i want tobbe a woman like semi badly like if i could chose id want to wake up tomorrow as a qoman
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>>42260523
thank god you can just go back to posting on /tttt/ now like a normal person rather than being a repressing tranny lol
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>>42261155
social media prob desu
>>42261253
dysphoria to me means actively hating your body and wishing you were born a different gender. i would have rather been born a girl but i dont hate or feel uncomfortable in my body because of it anymore.
>>42261261
not very honestly, i was only on it for a little while tho with no prog. i have friends who have had lots of growth on just e and friends who have had next to none on e and prog. theres really no way to tell other than getting maybe an idea of what to expect from family, but even that can be unreliable

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this is so minuscule dont even bother reading but im proud of myself
>be me angry, anxious paranoid unmedicated ftm
>walk to hospital to see they finally got injectable testosterone cause i can only get diy gels
>its a dumb gay waiting room with a million flags and "trans is beautiful" type paintings
>everytime i go there im so utterly embarassed and angry at my enviroment that i avoid talking as much as humanly possible and leave quickly
>doctor is late, variety of pooners are waiting outside
>they all look clocky and kinda ugly. i know its wrong to think this but it's my first thought
>mind drifts thinking about how i probably look exactly as clocky and ugly as them to everyone in my life
>doctor arrives with some kind of nurse woman. they talk a bit and eventually open the door for us
>she starts laughing and chatting with the nurse
>about 5 minutes pass by and theyre still fucking chatting
>look around at the other pooners. they dont do anything. we were all supposed to get testosterone an hour ago
>"what is she waiting for."
>they shyly tell me they dont know
>tell her to hurry up, she acts annoyed and says something back to me about how im so mean or something

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>>42260970
Proud of you for standing up, anon. Regardless of your gender, it's a good skill to have that will serve you well in life.

That said, I'm not gonna judge you for your thoughts about other ftms while you're still early in your transition. But I hope that in time, you won't need to mentally put others down to feel secure in yourself because your confidence will be innate. Be kind to other ftms. They're suffering just like you do. Even if you're not saying it to their faces, thinking negatively like this about others colors your perceptions of other people and yourself.
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glad youre proud of yourself
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>>42260970
assertive people are cool and we need more of them and it just takes practice and courage so nice one
be good to your fellow pooners <3
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>>42261497
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>>42261041
thanks guys. im just mad that i can tell when people are clocky and weird looking, and because it means that others can also tell i am ugly and offputing when they look at me. i try not to be mean, being ugly is a terrible thing, i guess i just dont feel that respectful to other ftms because i see them as soft and tumblrites, but i try not to assume the worst about them. itd be dumb to treat people like shit because i hate myself


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