how do you cope with knowing you'll never be able to shed your male socialisation? hearing from women, i know I'll never be able to catch up, hell most autistic cis women eventually fall too far behind, an autistic man like myself stands no chance. and i realise, that I'm not willing to let go of my make friendships, and I'm too scared to make female ones, scared of how you need to be emotionally vulnerable, I've never been able to be.i feel so awful, knowing I'll never be able to fit in with the group i so desperately seek to join. i feel so fucking weird, I'm desperate to be able to fit in with cis women, because it'll forever clock me, other me as a "transwoman" instead of just, a woman, yet I'm unwilling to let my moid friends go, my moid hobbies go, my moid behaviours go. it feels like a vice, i know it's hurting me long term but it's helping me cope now.it disgusts me, desu, that some day, i will try to convince people i am a woman, while behaving so uncannily unlike one. it's truly sickening. and every time i see terfs talk about socialisation it's what hits me the most more than anything, more than any talk about gamete size or chromosomes. I was molded through my childhood, through my own experiences to be a man, and that is tough to erase.
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>>42271255Socialization is basically conditioning via your assigned sex being molded into gender, which you could then "transition" out of but only into "transwoman".How do you destroy conditioning?Trannies depend on sexism to even exist and the experiences of our sexist world.
>>42281065I don't think it's true that will happen. For one that feeling of guilt is common among women who, even if they have it for different reasons, nevertheless find a relatedness in the abstraction. It is in fact one of the media archetypes or tropes that women often relate to. The whole premise of >I can't be like them>I'm too damagedIs something every woman who's been raped has felt at some point. There are many other ways this can happen too, such as being poor or even being rich. And I would query a guess that this is exactly why women are more intent on forming community and companionship with one another. To challenge and overcome that feeling.Of course it might not feel good to you if cis women identify with their perceptions of you as a symbol of their own insecurity, it certainly does annoy me, but at least in terms of finding shared experiences it's not like I who feels like my CSA was transmisogyny have an easier time relating to random women because of it, to the extent that when I feel especially depressed I will misanthropically or self hatingly reject the community that is offered to me often.>>42282267Socialization has at least two effective definitions that most people agree upon and when you separate them from each other you will find there is nothing controversial or invalidating about them. It's not really interesting as a problem. >Being social among males (everyone agrees trans women to some extent do this)>Becoming a male (it is obvious trans women do not do this)
>>42284369i do feel it's a bit different it's not like, damage, it's years and years of learned behaviour to be unlearned. it just seems utterly opposite to what just about every woman has experienced but more distressing ig is that they will be able to recognise it lining up with men. idk again look, i was wrong to generalise this for all troons cuz i feel like it's something that affects me more cuz I'm so faketrans ig
>>42271053learn vocal feminization and stop shouting over women and you'll be fine stop giving up before u start
anons im a massive loser estrogenized trap passoid with actual tomoko tier perversions and social akwardness. i spoke to my oshi recently and despite treating him like all my art friends (and ive had big ass art friends) the viewer streamer gap just ruined everything even if i started talking to him before i even became a viewer. im so fucking autistic and i can handle corpospeak and schooljargon. i can handle sexting other guys for money too theyre so damn easy. but this internet ettiquitte is too damn much for me i went completely private on everything over it. how can i get less awkward around people i respect? i hate being friends w chud lowlives and lame trannies. i wanna be a sensation. picrel (me)
>>42285775tldr
>>42285775i have no idea what the fuck youre saying 90% of this post but it's obvious that you are a piece of shit so i hope no solution comes to you
Hello everyone! I am not a regular here and I am kinda worried everyone is going to hate on myself and tell me to kill myself, but I still am going to ask: What do you guys think about AGP - autogynephilia? I am not too deep into gender science and AGP but I read a little about it and I do think I may have AGP. meaning I get off the thought/fantasy and Female Pov Porn of having sex as a woman with a man. And even though it doesn't repulse me emotionally, to me it just appears as a fetish, born and induce by watching porn. Thus I see it as vile, degenerate and depraved. And I am disgusted with the part of myself that enjoys the fetish. II am not saying it's the same experience for everyone, for others it may just be self expression of their sexuality. And I am not denying that real trans women or cis women don't can't have the same or similar kind of attraction but in my case, and I can't lie to myself on a structural level - it just appears to me as me fetishizing femininity and feminine beauty. It just makes me sad that I have to accept that porn made me into this kind of freak, but I guess, it is what it is. Anyways, I just wondered how you guys saw it. Go easy on me please, I am just a clueless guys, looking for some answers :)
>>42285914Sorry, I don't really get why you mean with that picture.
>>42285937idk i thought it would be funnysorry it's off topic
>>42285948Oh that's fine :)I just just curious. I didn't know the picture prior to this thread.
>>42281286I dunno if it's real. I think I have it. But every time I talk about AGP people tell me that isn't what it means. I never understood the whole meta-attraction thing. Not sure if it's a valid reason to troon but I think you might be brainworming yourself too much.
>>42286006>Not sure if it's a valid reason to troon but I think you might be brainworming yourself too much.Maybe yeah. To be honest, I think, in a few days, I will stop thinking about it and keep living my life as usual. I don't constantly obsess over this. Life is busy enough with social stuff and work. So most of the time I just live life and go with the flow. But I guess, I was just curious about what you all on here thought about the concept of AGP :)
If you were forced to select between chemical castration or jail, which would you pick and why?
>>42284644wait so estrogen does cure homosexuality
>>42284430I don't. The penis is too important for me.
>>42281802>chemical>looks at missing penis and balls
>>42284423>acting tough on 4chanlmao
>>42281802I mean I wasn't going to have kids anyway so
QOTT: what are your new year's resolutions?QOTT2: how long do you think you'll actually commit to those resolutions before giving up or changing them?previous: >>42185931
>>42281833I didn't. I just told my assigned psychiatrist in the psych ward that I wanted to be male and tried to kill myself because I couldn't transition when I was 16 and they diagnosed me with it immediately.
>>42282028womp womp woooooomp
>>42280021Dangerous post jesus
>>42282490Damn that got counted as pony posting??Fucked
Is it possible to gaslight oneself into being dysphoric as a cis person?
>>42285600How did you "gaslight yourself into dysphoria", and at what age? Now that you've transitioned, do you think there were sign even prior to gaslighting yourself?
>>42285634i identified the feelings as dysphoria at age 20/21 and transitioned at 24. i felt like i wanted to be a woman but i was "neutral" about my body, particularly my genitals, so i couldn't possibly be trans. i was just on the internet too much and having an erotic target error, etc. then from 23-24 i speedran being a gay twink and realized how uncomfortable and unnatural being a gay man made me and that locked me in to transitioning.there were signs from my adolescence which i had excused by extremely low self esteem, "im just a sex pest freak" type stuff.
>>42285693Fuck, I'm almost the exact same...Anyways, hole you're happier now that you've transitioned
>>42285208Not really. Most trenders end up detransitioning within like a year or two, just like every 2020 tiktok tranny. If your dysphoria lasts longer than the “just a phase” timeframe, it’s probably real.
>>42285603i dont think it's obvious that transition is the ideal solution for anyone with dysphoria, gaslit or not
New years new twinks editionQuestion of the day: What are your new years resolutions?>FAQ>What is a femboy? What is a twink?A femboy is a male that pursues a feminine appearance for himself whilst still identifying as male. A twink is a male with a slender figure and a youthful appearance, usually with little body/ facial hair>Are femboys trans?The majority of femboys are cisgendered. Femboy is not a 'stepping stone' to trans, it is a stand alone identity.>Can trans post here?Trans people are welcome to post in /fbg/ and identify as trans twink/femboy if they want, but this is not a trans thread. Posts should not be about 'transitioning' and discussion of hormone usage should be restricted to skincare applications.>Can twunks and otters post here?Yes>I'm not twink or femboy but I am an enjoyer of them, can I post here too?YesComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I need fatter cheeks
I just want cuddles
>>42284653Where do you think you’re going with all that ass?
>>42284721me and you anon, we are cuddling in my head (if you're white or fair skinned and the same race as me and thin/hairless)
>>42282505you can put them in my mouth afterwards to make them heal faster or whatever
how would you feel about being feminized in an east asian country
>>42285843no fault in trying
>>42285930you sound like a groomer
>>42285953I try not to be diabolical.
>>42285930Easy for you to say if you can put on a kimono and look like that
>>42285835I feel more about feminizing someone from an east asian country.
>I work at a beauty supply store>we got a 5* review>"the trans man working there is really helpful">mfw I'm MtF
>>42285529i suspect the reviewer knew OP was a trans woman, cissies just dont know the proper terms
>>42285529I *try* to just stealth
>>42285181Which one I work at ulta ?
>>42285794Umm it's independently owned. I sort of don't want to give out the name lol?
>>42285181they probably knew you were em tee effcisoids are just retarded and don't know the proper terms
what are the chances of a boymoder becoming a beautiful and elegant princess?
>>42284718>t... they are boys...But the pictures usually depict a girl? So why not just call them girlmoders?
>>42284578it literally says boy on their hoodie
can kittymoders and puppymoders be friend in the afterlife?
>>42285885you made me sad .___.I'd say they're already friends!
>>42285945sorry ;-;
A mad scientist offers to swap your brain with an afabBut, the afab is a pooner who's been on T for 5 years, chopped her tits off and got a frankenweiner
>>42284690That's basically me if I got bottom surgery haha
>>42284690would it not still be easier to detransition from that back to female than to continue a normal mtf transition if you're truly cooked? like sure i'd have 5 years of T but my initial puberty would at least be a female one, meaning i would have a woman's bone structure and height. i could get implants and reverting phalloplasty might be easier than mtf vaginoplasty due to the internal structures present
>>42284690no, I think I'm starting to like my body on hormones, it's enough.
also, the pooner gets your old bodywould you date him?
>>42284690Wowzies I've been on T for 5 yearsAin't got no frankenweiner tho
How do I achieve this build? She’s a troon so it shouldnt be too hard right
>>42284381its a peptide that increases hgh secretion and encourages visceral fat loss
>>42285537Took way too long scrolling to see this comment. This bitch in the OP is heavily edited, she does not actually look like thatPeople need to learn that internet images are not real life.
>>42285779what dose typically do you take, you take it when losing weight of course but most hgh type things like 1295 encourage visceral fat loss, is this better at it than other HGHs?
>>42285566MUCH harder to build muscle without testosterone.
>>42283797Plastic surgery. Start booking trips to Tijuana for boob jobs now
stop clogging up the board with your /pol/ stuff. nophono cares amerimutts
>>42285046Seriously it's so fucking irritating.I'm not even American why is American politics being spammed so hard?I know the internet is the new battleground for dipshit rich guys trying to get a cushy job in some shithole Midwestern city but I don't want it here.
>we don't want to talk about politics because it makes us feel bad and we can't ever admit fault or wrong doingguess that's why we're gunns keep talking about it. we're gunna talk about it even more. if you didn't want to talk about it, then you wouldn't havr politicized gay peoplr being queers as the woke liberal mind virus.
>>42285912That was a white woman with a white child, more than the entirety of /pol/chuddies has in offspring combined
>>42285954yeah but she was bisexual and a liberal so her getting executed by feds is fine
>>42285954just ignore themmost of them are 14 and terrified of women
I sincerely hope every tranny freak that left me is suffering. At least girls have the decency to not talk to me
>>42283887Theyre not even real.
>>42284021That's how it feels
>what is INTERGEN?INTERGEN is a general for intersex people to talk to each other about their experiences or just to hang out>what is an intersex person?Intersex people are those born with any of several sex characteristics, including chromosome patterns, gonads, or genitals that do not fit typical binary notions of male or female bodies>am I intersex?We are not doctors, please seek medical advice, but dont be afraid to ask questions here to maybe understand things better>are trans people intersex?Trans people are not inherently intersex, however an intersex person can transition if they want, “neurologically intersex” is not real as being intersex pertains to the sex organs or hormonal productions>how is this /lgbt/?We share similar experiences of discrimination and social prejudice based on sex and gender norms, even though intersex is a variation of sex characteristics, not a gender identity or sexual orientation itself—————————Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I’m incoherently tired, goodnight INTERGEN I’ll check on you in a few hours
Good morning caught this before my phone dies
>>42281627My official not-mocking-trolls-on-4chan belief is if we have to have gender markers at all we should just put whatever you ask on them, including X. The culture war is dumb.>>42282129That's kind of impressive that they can't spell your name with a reference right in front of them.Ironically they put F on my first ever driver's license. I thought about just leaving it like that and was kinda bitter about having to go back to get it corrected. For the young'uns: this was pre-9/11 so there was no central office to check their work. They just printed your ID at the local DMV and handed it to you.Changing it to F but for really real went smoothly enough (once I found an office that actually knew the rules) but since then my state is on some moral crusade about biology or whatever so I'm a little concerned about it sticking.The culture war is dumb.
>>42265062Just redact all the personal info with the exception of the actual diagnosis
>>42266037Uh yeah just to let you know intersex doesn’t actually work that way
