why are AGP trannies always hitting that pose in their selfies? slightly downwards angle tilted to the side + smirk
>>42313195The better question is why are we not doing this maybe they know something we don’t
to hide the extent of their cranial vault, the most overt masculine feature that can only be truly seen from the side
>>42313221if they're trying to hide their masculinity they're doing a bad job at it
>>42313195AGP's are not really feminine; they're not naturally into posing like girls.
>>42313195sorry
This thread is dedicated to informing people genuinely questioning the legitimacy of being transgender, educating lurkers/posters of /lgbt/, as well as dismantling the idiocy, misinformation/disinformation and bad faith actors from transphobes (/pol/). Please refer to the following link when discovering a fallacy as well as properly linking to any of the following studies that most accurately counters flawed logic, or best supports the evidence and legitimacy for being transgender when questioned.https://www.logicalfallacies.org/pt 1/?
(Cont.)>>42309708>entire logic of legitimization is centred on the whims and attitudes of people who fundamentally do not respect trans people regardless of the actual facts that can be laid downThis leads me into the argument in favor for playing optics, being stealth/invisible, don’t upset the majority when you’re a minority; “pick-mes”. An argument rooted in “just shut up and do what we say and maybe we’ll let you continue living”. It is both deceptive and enables problematic approaches towards integrating minorities in society, and affirms discriminatory power to those that get to pull the levers. Legitimacy must be obtained with truth in hand and dismantling problematic societal practices.>>42309401>engage in good faithI attempted to give that person credit in the ability to read the commentary in each post prefacing important context of each group of links, selecting the ones appropriate (such as evidence towards biological components for trans gender brains) and informing themself on how the word “delusion” does not fit anywhere in this discourse.>nobody is going to readPlenty of those genuine in their pursuit of grounded logic involving trans people, already have and will continue to do so. But if people aren’t here with an honest inquiry in search of scientific based answers, I can not force them to read, and they’re most likely here to push anti-intellectual rhetoric based on biased views and flawed logic; people that won’t be convinced no matter how persuasive the conversation leads.
>>42309609nona i don't think you understand what i'm saying. i like being a woman, too. i'm not very well built for it, though; my body is just very masculine. when i was a naïve teenager i probably would have still chosen to transition because i so desperately wanted to be female, but, realistically, if something could have been done, medically, to make me totally okay with being male, that would have made my life objectively easier. and i wouldn't BE dysphoric. i have no desire whatsoever to be male today and honestly i do think it is a kind of blessing to be transgender, but i can't say that i would, like, recommend it to anybody. it would be nice if people got to have a choice. a free choice. in this world i should hope that by now you could buy hormones over the counter anywhere if you wanted to.
>>42309862am not the poster you’re responding to but; that type of logic leads to a very problematic, and destructive principle to be set: changing someone’s core identity. It’s not like some magic machine that removes your addiction with alcohol or deleting traumatic memories. It’s more like deleting a core ideal to you like if you’re a history nerd and changing that to being a botanist; or you were a die hard fan for one football team and now you’re supporting the other instead. And this extrapolates to: should you be able to remove being gay? Imagine having your entire sexual preference just changed due to stigma; no longer feeling the same type of love or connection to a partner. It’s a very ethically charged option to offer in reality.
>>42309862I understood which is why i typed what i posted. It feels to me you just have insecurities. I guarantee i have things worst than anybody on this board and most likely will never make it. But anyway you do you, don't wanna derail the thread any further. Yes in a sane world we would be able to transition and make it snap of a finger and we live furthest away from it.
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misogyny is restorative justice for centuries of homophobia and transphobia perpetrated by an all-female social elite
everyone take the bingo. also i'm not a newfag but i have no clue what ase is tell me
>>42313408upon discovering what ase stood for
Free & weed is the only ones I got
>>42304483seriously what is ASEt. midshit o algo
>>42313510autosapphoeroticist, presumably
>>42313523idk what that means
Look I'm a man with a mental illness that makes me want to be a woman. I take estrogen. But I'm not deluded enough to think that women's clothes or makeup are going to make me or anyone else think I'm a woman. Please enlighten me.
>>42312704Good advice nona
>>42312704I just don't understand how presenting yourself in a way where others would only refer to you as a woman out of pity helps in any way
>>42312355And the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
>>42312875>I just don't understand how presenting yourself in a way where others would only refer to you as a woman out of pity helps in any wayBecause it’s for me and my perception of myself. If you presented like this you’d know people but especially strangers don’t gender out of pity or politeness, they say what they see. I’ve only been gendered female a tiny handful of times and that’s included a few pretrans friends trying to force themselves to do it as best as they can and giving up after a couple they/thems. I do it to mainly help my own dysphoric self-perception, and you know what nowadays I’d argue I even like how I look. All I need now is someone not yelling "tranny" everytime I walk down a busy street which is why I’m planning to move to a more tolerant area. Is it perfect? No, and you could probs argue I’m building a hugbox around myself or something, but if you’re *that* dysphoric would you rather do everything in your power to help it or sit and let yourself rot as depressed as ever? Idk it’s not like I’m going around introducing myself via pronouns or using women’s loos, and as I’ve said everyone is seeing me as a man in the exact same way you’re describing yourself, but I think we have to really wind the fuck back how we present why we’re transitioning in the first place because so-called "honmoding" has been far too villainised by the public and the last thing I fucking want are trans people acting uptight about it too. We all have the same mental illness and everyone forgets this is the recommended treatment.
>>42312388this anon no debate
MTFG: Make a thread you lazy troons editionQOTT: What are you doing for this weekend? January blues setting in?
crying/sobbing about next week. So so so upset.
>>42312939eh, depends how much of a shithole you can tolerate living in, wester hailes is cheap af but you’ll be killed within a few weeks, better off staying in one of the wee towns outside like livingstone or boness, still easy to get into edi to meet up with the other local transsexuals but not break the bank expensive (there are more tranners in glasgow btw and you should move there instead)
>bf made me pick some dresses for him to buy for mehe's dragging me kicking and screaming out of boymode now lol
>>42313228he sounds very sweet :) make sure to wear them and he will feel very happy, also suck his dick and let him plap you right after buying them so he will associate buying you things with peepee feel good
>>42313486He's in the military for the next year or so so the best I can do is send him picsim also practicing the fuck out of makeup and im epilating and stuff like that. I want him to be knocked over when he finally comes back home because i never wore makeup or pretty clothes before he started his contract
bottomposting gets more replies when I post on /int/ than when I post on /lgbt/
>>42310703I have nothing to contribute, but have a you
>>42306409they are also supposed to be together in my large bed
do bottoms like when their threads get responses?
>>42313318yeah. anal is painful and humiliating. why do you think we do it? because we like attention
>>42310703Bottoms are TOO COOL for us .____.
Last thread died early edition>QOTT: What's your favorite cancelled TV show?Last thread: >>42271435
>>42313267that's normal everyone does
>>42313267yea but transitioning isn't the same thing so it's pointless
>>42313350This black and white mentality prolonged my suffering.Transitioning isn't the same thing. It's not 100%. But goddamn it is a lot more than 0%.
>>42313358most of my suffering isn't from repping so it wouldn't help in my case
>>42313300Oh I'm sorry I wasn't accusing you of anything... just making an observation, most people who dislike trans (or at least mtf) really just seem to dislike men, and see trans as men
Hey guys. I just see a lot of people online who are bitter about being a virgin/not having a partner. In my case I think it may be because of my relationship to solo-sex/AGP and porn. I have kissed a few girls and have had opportunities to have girlfriends and sex but for whatever reason, I never pursued those paths. I guess I never really felt worthy of having a partner or love, always thinking I need to become better than I am before I am loveable as a person. I am not bitter about my situation and I don't hate the world or anyone because of it. AGP is annoying but not interfering with my life in any meaningful way outside of sexuality and arousal, no dysphoria, no HRT, no crossdressing, no IRL-activities related to it - I am still just a guy with a fetish. Sometimes some lingering feelings similar to "homesickness", a wistfulness, to be a graceful, serene, kind woman is there but no strong emotions. I also "know" that for me personally it's only the sexual kink spilling over into identity, because AGP can be insidious. Also, im oldge (30) and probably a decent looking man so I don't hate my body, even if my brain thinks a female form would probably be preferable. I just wanted to share with you guys, that there are people like me out there too. Not everyone becomes hateful because they haven't been loved and neither do you :)
>>42311920Also why do you not think I have AGP when I get aroused by the idea/thought of having sex as a woman with a man? And erotica/pornographic content related around that? Isn't that literally what Agp is?
>>42312876you said it is a fetish for you yourself rather than a state of mind of wanting to be a woman
>>42313259Well, isn't Agp a paraphilia?
>>42307550you doing asexual, me too. I'm a tranny but I don't feel the need to actually have sex with people to be happy at all. Feels like a blessing desu watching all the people, straight and queer, who are legit depressed and suicidal over not having sex.
>>42313320According to literally one guy in the late 70s yes. But that and guy said AGPs need to transition to be happy. So if you don't need to transition its probably just a fetish.
How to get a tranny like this?
>>42313191>i find beautiful women attractive, what type of guy do beautiful women go for?
>>42313202Okay, fine, thanks for not helping I guess
Just look for places where you'll find trans women
>>42312819>>42313191be built like a chad (or a cute femboy in some cases) and be a strict top that does not want to touch her dick in any way
>>42313365like whatas a trans woman the only social circle im in is my local methodist church
every aspect of maleness is wholly acceptable for all
Kys
>>42313190No noWomen must be protected, coddled, and entertained at all times.Read the manual!
>>42313256What page of the manual is that stated on?
>>42313289ahem in"How to Run a Society of Mammals"it's under the "Uses for Disposable Males" chapter
>>42313401List all the species of mammals that are NOT matriarchal. I will be waiting here.
What happens to effeminate gay men as they ascend past age 40?
Is 30 too old to come out of the closet as gay? I feel like I should just be alone forever at this point.
At this point the people who you'll come out to already know, or won't believe you until you show up with a same sex partner, so better just skip to that part.
>>42313066Ai slop
>>42313066Cute. Would rape.On a more serious note: You're an adult. Just go date guys or trannies. It's noone else's business.
>>42313066is this an ai genderswap of that annoying hon who's been spamming for years
>>42313066>ugly tranny actually looks handsome as a manTake note reppers
Jason of /cum/ editionPrevious: >>42092689>QotTWhat other boards do you browse besides /lgbt/?Tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/%2Fbigen%2FFAQ:>Am I bi if I like women and femboys/traps?>Am I bi if there's this one member of the same-sex I'm desiring, but normally I like the opposite sex?>Am I bi if I sexually like both sexes, but only interested in romance with one of them?Yes, sexual attraction to both sexes is bisexuality.>What's the difference between bisexual and pansexual?Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I'm so stressed I'm burping and farding weird
>>42311871what's got you stressed out anon?
>>42311930I held off workers that showed up to my rental property for whatever, asked for clarification, come to an understanding and the rent corp sends two rats along with the workers, proceed to rat, now rent corp claims I must allow inspections because there's a term in the contract about the home being subjectively clean and a catchall for inspections and someone saw my house was messy so they've been coming at me all "comply or lose your home".They've already showed up uninvited 5x with 2 people each time and I just figured out the way to rebuke them in legalese this evening.
>>42308543yep!
>>42313248what's his lore beside mental illness?
im 19 and im really scared is it too latelike and transitioning is really scary its like a whole life change im really scared chat idk what to do i need help pls help me pls pls pls
>>42313249maybe but it's gonna be odd how smooth your skin is. and how much your tits poke out
>>42313227after you've been through puberty it's just down to bones, either you have a frame/skull that'll make it with feminine fat distribution from hrt or you don'tthere's not really a reliable way to say you will or won't make it because of age>>42313249>is it possible to at least still manmode and blend into society without looking like a trannyit is, at 19 worst case unless you're insanely fucked you end up some twink hon, binders or loose clothing work for breasts since most trannies never really develop large ones, especially if you don't put on weight
>>42313274>work for breasts since most trannies never really develop large ones, especially if you don't put on weightshould i still be putting on weight though? i read somewhere that hrt doesnt actually redistribute fat but it just redirects new fat or smth, so if i wanna optimize should i just fatmaxx?
>>42312943This is my exact thoughts, I'm still early on (like I'm currently 19 and started soon after my birthday) and it's either suffer the humiliation of transitioning now or die as someone I despise>>42313227Surprisingly I'm pretty hopeful that I can eventually pass since testosterone really only destroyed one thing for me, my voice
>>42313296>so if i wanna optimize should i just fatmaxx?i think fatmaxxing is a psyop tbhon, but it is true that hrt has much more an effect on new weight gain/loss than it does on existing fatthe secret though is that existing fat cells take years to die, cycling doesn't really kill them, it just takes years for total fat redistribution in a conventionally female manner. part of why i think if you're gonna troon the earlier you do it the better. there's basically no utility out of delaying further since it's gonna take years for hrt to work anyways, but realistically you get most of your face changes in like 2-3y tops and that happens regardless of weight cycling assuming you aren't overweight to start with
