>started hrt in mid 2016 at 27>now 36>exclusively gendered male>keep getting hair cut short as i'm too scared to let it grow out>still have facial hair as i got too anxious to keep going to appointments>haven't voice trained>haven't come out to any friends or family or coworkers due to fear and anxiety>threw out any women's clothing i had years agoi am terrified of being visibly trans and it's only gotten worse over the years
>>42370339one of the saddest threads wtf
>>42377334Probably a larp
>>42376550>have seen a million hons just ordinary men coming in to get laser hair removalWouldn't it be mostly men, in fact? Because of the sheer amount of hair alone.
>>42376550is it insecurity or anxietyi haven't even gone to a doctor since i started hrt>>42376573>It's literally their job to interact with hons and fags.at best they'll hold their nose and will only shit talk me behind my backas long as they don't rat me out or some schizo mindbroken by trannies sees me or something
>>42376573i bet they also get a ton of cis men wanting to get rid of back hair or whatever
Trannies need to understand that cis people don't "identify" with their gender. They simply don't even THINK about their gender. 90% of cis people are just playing the cards they're dealt. If you asked 90% of cis people:>you magically wake up as the opposite biological sex. This is irreversible for the rest of your life90% of these cis people would NOT seek out to transition back to their original sex. They would just live the rest of their life as the opposite sex, adjusting, and "playing the cards" so to speak. Basically my thesis is trannies are narcissistic and have an incorrect view on gender. You all think about yourselves way too much. I don't know why trans people are seen as "gender intellectuals" when cis people probably have a more nuanced and deep view on what gender actually is.
>>42378922>90% of these cis people would NOT seek out to transition back to their original sexthis is not true. they believe they wouldn't, but they are incorrect.you are asking the wrong question to get them to consider the hypothetical. ask a cis woman what she would do if she woke up one day with a beard. then, separately, ask her what she'd do if her breasts disappeared and she had thick chest hair. continue down the list. then ask her to put all these things together.the way cis people would actually react is closer to the sum of their reactions to individual features being changed than it is to if you propose all of the changes happening together.gender dysphoria is antimemetic to cis people. they are capable of experiencing it (cis men with gyno can get pretty distressed about that) but they're mostly incapable of generalizing from that experience.
>>42379923That sounds like a fallacy of composition though.
>>42379923you just described something completely unrelatedmy hypothetical is about switching from passing from one sex to the other sexyour hypothetical requires becoming some weird in-between genderfreak. that's not what my post is about.
>>42379986i'm not making a syllogism here, i'm making an empirical claim. there's nothing logically necessary about this. a species could exist in which brains don't have hardwired expectations about what their body should look like and instead adapt to whatever they find themselves in, but that's not how humans work.
>>42380075yea, what? >oh you don't want to be a woman with a beard? >this means you don't want to be a passing cis man with all biology
straight trans women, tell me about your straight boyfriends/husbands
>>42379007We've been living together for years and have know each other a lot longer I'm pretty confident he won't troon but sorry that happened to you
>>42376985my ex told me they weren't gonna troon then did
>>42379387>We've been living together for yearswas living with my trans gf for 5 years before i trooned. Time doesnt make it any less likely, all it does is make the egg crack much harder. Honestly all trans girls should be constantly looking for red flags from their "straight" bfs. The prior fem appearence and dating a trans girl gives him a few egg points, few more and he cracks
>>42376785he's the most racist man alive, pure Aryan GermanI'm a brown Latina tranny who's half Jewish
>>42376785My fiance for a year, dating for 4; is a dork but also really amazing.Like yeah okay sometimes he games too much or his farts smell like shit so i need to aerate the washroomBut he does take such good care of me. His family too. He loves to go on hikes and knows to push me to go with him when im down or depressed. Hes fine at cooking too but Despite being an accountant he has such passion for the small things. It makes me cry sometimes but just seeing the joy when he talks about some random factoid about town history or going to a museum or GPUs even if it goes over my head.And his laugh is really infectious. I feel so safe.
QOTT: which ex-men would you fuck?
anyone else love the feeling of your soulmate being inside you, where god intended?
>soulmateLol please don’t forget to let us know when it’s over we always need a good laf here
>>42379826Yeah you're right.Any other job would suck moreCan you just give me money?
sir!i have a pwoblem wif your joke sir!i am much bigly offended, and am drafting a letter to your mommy, maam!
>>42379980:)
i wonder what cis women think of trans puppygirls
Cringe autist behavior. Otherwise I don’t think about it very much because you only see that shit on twitter and Reddit.
>>42379471Do you not like autistic trans girls?
>>42378995Probalby they think they're all niggers.
>>42379764I just wish men would make peace with being men y'know. I get it. I get it. I just wish you jcould find a way.
>>42378995the same way they think about romanian metal workers
He ultimate litmus test for transness and yet so often ignored!No fagvoice doesnt count you need to actively be voice training or at least if for xyz cant have a need to voicetrainthere are other tests but this one is quite simple and cuts through lies easily
>>42380080I mean yeah obviously i assume most trans women have some form of vocal dysphoria and want to change that as soon as they can
First >>42342836Previous >>42354795Not using Seehon's threadDon't feed the retard troll who calls everything a wig, hair flap, AI, "male size glasses frames", "cis women would never wear that", ectReply to others you conceited newfags
>>42379895Pichu is a 2 faced schizophrenia rude cunt always talking about his friend's behind their backs being rude and negging passoids and belittling hons. If you can't see the pattern of behavior after he's posted for years then you're willfully blind
going back from the bottom to do rates (1/2)>>42379151you look like you're about to cry honey :( but if your voice passes you look like the average 40 something midwestern white woman>>42378966quality rates, you are appreciated and pass, looking very cozy today>>42378564painfully envious of your lips, gigapass, sleeping in mascara is certified hot girl activity>>42378206pass and shadmoding>>42377419pass holy GORGEOUS girl i am so envious of girls that facemogg this hard that they can do short hair>>42377402jaw is crazy ngl but i just know lesbians go wild for you, pass>>42376199you are androgynous but without obvious visual or audio cues from voice/mannerisms, i think you would be gendered male. i know it's probably not your speed but cis dykes sometimes do winged eyeliner only/lipstick only to queercode themselves. also the t-shirt over longsleeve is very boycoded by default unless you have a feminine frame
>>42379997going back from the bottom to do rates (2/2)>>42374101pass and gorgeous it's so nice to see you smile>>42373779what is this reddit 2010 meme on my board. gtfo>>42373701your shoulders are dominating this look, also i just really really disapprove of wearing collars in public that shit's fucking weird please don't do that
>>42380066(3/2) because of spam filter>>42373601pass but it's giving femboy more than tgirl and i can't put my finger on why>>42373278gigapass, ik you're insecure about your forehead but honestly your cranial vault mogs so fucking hard, i would believe you were cis in an instant if voice is good>>42372644chaca rate others you silly billy>>42372279pass, you are an honor to belgium>>42372133nearpass but very pretty. brow, philtrum and midface length is setting you back, but your lip shape is gorgeous, i think slight upper lip overlining could tip you over to passoid>>42369139pass pretty lady>>42367966Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>42379997>>42378966Thank yall sm for the feedback omg it’s rlly helpful
fucking trannies is homosexual, how could you tell?
Would you go to a trans function if your SAer were also there
>>42377274ahem Tara Bundle of Styx. Serial Sexual Assualter, in addition to the recent shit.
>>42377434you can't just go around telling people to kill themselves!!1
>>42377195some bpd/hpd tranny once tried to paint me as a terrible dominant because i pressed her a bit on a touchy subject lol. Then also accused me of making rape jokes because I asked her if she'd ride biden (she's "lesbian").these are the people who make baseless rape accusations and im lucky to have gotten out of that shit with my sanity lol. she later on tried to convince another partner of mine to kill me because i was abusive and crazy?
>>42377195I would pay $500 for one of those girls to rape me
>>42379879terra is ungrateful. hurts to see people living your dream.
Is it despicable that when I want to jerk off I search for solo nsfw videos of femboys/twinks who are totally clean shaven, extremely feminine with small pps and resemble the body type of my trans gf the most? I would look at tgirl nudes instead, but there's only weird shemale representation or some honbeasts PIVing pooners. None of them look anything like my gf. >inb4 why not just watch straight porn/solo cis femalesI used to exclusively, but I've grown really bored of it.
>>42374589this is how i feel like when i see people posting edits of tranny memes i drew>they dont know i made the original
>>42378366What memes did you make?
>>42374589I was there, thank you nonna>>42378366Only the weird ones I made still haunt me
>>42372857LMAO1PLATE!
>>42378446Post the weird ones
i just saw a girl my age who started hrt at roughly the same time as i did and she looks like a normal pretty girl. 170 cm, girly face, small skull, narrow shoulders, normal ribs, noticable hips. meanwhile im stuck in this ogreish 190 cm unchangeable "alpha male" body. i just want to go stealh and live a life of a boring unassuming normal girl its been my only dream since i can remember and she just gets to have it while im a monster easily spottable in a crowd of real women. she constantly "complains" about straight men at her college catcalling and flirting with her, "do they know?" meanwhile last time i was flirted with by a man he was doing it as a joke and i didnt realize until too late because it was the first time anyone ever has shown any interest in me. im so sorry for venting but i just cant take it anymore and all my supposed friends left me when they realized im on hormones
i dont want to be a dyke or a dominatrix or a supermodel of a fucking muscle mommy everyone i ever vent to about my severe height dysphoria just keeps telling me to try one of these but im a hardwired straight submissive bottom i cant just turn into one of these even if my body was made for it
>>42378807sorry nona :( i wish you the best
>>42378807Small dom big sub is fun. Gap moe. Find the one for you by continuing to exist
I think I ruined my life to such a degree by repping that I genuinely fail to see a livable existence anymore, my body is now forever mutilated by male puberty and there's no amount of hrt and surgery that is going to fix what should've never happened in the first place. I hate myself for having been such a stubborn, stupid fucking coward and not at least trying to get help and be myself when younger. I hate myself so fucking much for it, and I also understand that I probably weren't any more dumber or weaker than the average person would've been in my situation, living in a hostile environment with no real connection to other trannies resources where I could learn about trans healthcare and the other. Either way the end result is the same and I am now a tall, broad shouldered ugly fucking hon. Forever. I could get srs and ffs and they would probably make happier, but I would still be a tall, broad shouldered hon. What the fuck even is the point when the only thing I ever wanted, the only thing I've ALWAYS wanted was just to be a normal woman? Am I going to take out loans to pay for my surgeries, and then kill myself after that when I realize it was not enough to fix me or to make me lovable in the eyes of any sane person? There is just no way I can ever fully cope with the amount of dysphoria I've felt since a child and will probably feel in the future as well, except dissociate from those feelings completely while wondering why nothing really makes me completely happy. God I want to kill myself so fucking badly.
>>42377204<3 i’m sorry anon hold out for surgery! i have faith in you!
>>42377204So what are you gonna do?
Girlies I’m curious, how often do you hook up with twinks and femboys ? Do you just ignore them for real men or do you gnab em anyways ?
>>42379279idc as long as hes confident and can do picrel to me then im fine with iton that notei need picrel so bad i never had sex or anything but i need this so badddddddd
these boymoder memes are so fucking cringestop being autistic moid fetishists and start girlmoding
>>42379279As a tranny, I love femboys I just wish I could top them to assert dominance.
/lesgen/ is the lesbian general for all cis women and trans women (MtF) to discuss lesbian relationships and topics.Be kind to each other and report/ignore trolls who attempt to divide trans mtf lesbians and cis lesbians as a community. This includes transphobic bigotry, femmephobia, butchphobia, racism, and anti-c4t/t4t slop. This is nice thread. :)QOTT>Are you or your gf good at making others laugh? What never fails to make you laugh?>Are you a vengeful person? Favorite incident in which you’ve gotten revenge on someone? Are you forgiving?tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/%2Flesgen%2Fdiscord: https://discord.gg/bAnVMAGPNRold thread: >>42335213
>>42375916we have five mirrion resbian in three shitties
was at a dyke bar last night and stole a transbian's girl right out from under her feelsgoodman
>>42379229No you didn't
>>42379255i don't need you to believe me because it happened
>>42377505my print is super slow and people say it looks like a foreigner’s handwriting, which sort of makes sense. i blame catholic school.
