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>tfw Emily Wilson has replaced Albert Cook for the translation Norton Critical Edition uses for the Odyssey
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>>24943694
>tell me about a complicated man
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>>24945145
>don't read Archaic Greek myself
Nta, I've started for a month. Trust me, its really interesting so far. You should try it.
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>>24944216
>written Swiss-German dialects

absolute madlad
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>>24944159
On the one hand, I understand the argument for translating ancient works in more colloquial language. In a sense, it is more true to the text. At the same time, this sometimes comes across ridiculously.

For instance, Saint Gregory the Theologian wrote his poetry in rather "low" language. But now the main English translation we have is full of terms like "hobo" and "ragamuffin" and the ways of the Trinity reflected in nature are "neat "(there are worse offenders IIRC) and it sounds very stupid.
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>>24943694
Wilson is YA-tier, we agree on that, but holy fuck I had no idea Fagles was that bad. Zero feeling whatsoever, it's like a 12 year old wrote it trying to sound cool.
Lawrence is the best one here easily.

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I CHINK DE FOW I AM OKAY!
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It come wih egroh
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shit thread

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Redpill me on Dr. William Pierce. Are his works worth reading?
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>>24944750
so what do you think about the theory that the son of david is the King
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>>24945157
Nonsense and shirk, but Id rather have teenagers running around acting like crusaders and following nick Fuentes than engaging in Zina and being troons
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>>24943255
Anti homosexuality is brown coded
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>>24945221
yeah yeah Rabbi Yehshuah and shau'ul ben yaahminh were brown
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>>24941203
not really

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HP82G
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>>24945443
Why does society have to be "well-integrated"? I didn't consent to this.
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>>24945353
Didn't he just take a lot of his thought from Erving Goffman?
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>>24943892
Because Focault mind fucked you and your ilk, and you can no longer feel humane.
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>>24946357
I don't know, but as I think, neither should I know or care. Originality does neither add nor subtract substance to his "thought"
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analytics are based, epistemology is cringe (im too stupid to understand it)

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And what size?
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>>24946347
scamazon's Bookerly font is genuinely my favorite font ever. I really wish more publishers used it for print
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>>24946430
Soulless
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Georgia, because I'm not a pseud.

>>24946430
It would look awful in print since it's designed for screens.
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>>24946430
i'm a huge fan of Iowan Old Style, which comes with the Safari reader mode on my iphone. wish it was free to use.
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>>24946462
Solid pick.

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What erotic literature has /lit/ been enjoying as of late? I quite enjoyed this one until the abrupt non-ending
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>>24944552
The mother and the daughters are blood related, the sex they have amongst each other is straightforward incest. The protagonist is their neighbor, however
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imagine lolita but blood related and theyre brother and sister and the sister is a sadist and the brother gets forcefemmed
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>"i want to smell you cum your pants"
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>>24944529
Crash is my favorite, besides Bataille of course. Ballard's prose is crazy, I'm still looking for something similar.
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>>24944529
porn

>ywn watch Sergei Eisenstein's lost film Unterwelt, wherein a mad scientist shoots a ray-gun at deformed people
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>>24943596
you don't belong here and you never will
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>>24944480
White Noise protagonist was pretty kek albeit
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>>24944125
Afaik the protagonist was based on Leopold Bloom.
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>>24943580
I'm not sure if that's from that book but there is actually an Eisenstein lost film called Bezhin meadow. It's about a Ukrainian man whose son is killed by the Soviets so he sets fire to the collective farm he lives on (ie Bezhin meadow). It was banned for being reactionary.
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>>24943580
eisenstein is so based broa

I'm really enjoying this so far. Don't see ti mentioned here often (or ever?). The narration is great. It feels conspiratorial and ironic, like he is leaning over my shoulder and laughing with me at the vanity of these people. Where are the Stendhal enjoyers at?
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>>24942952
Madame Bovary is better. Only b/c R&B is more historical. But maybe that's reason for one to enjoy R&B more... It has a lot to do with 19th century French politics.
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>>24940954
Bel Ami is fast-paced and concise in style. Not sure that comparison holds.
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>>24939530
>Mathilde
Need me a French BPD gf like that. Is she one of the first BPD characters in fiction? They didn't even have a word for it back then
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>>24944191
Greek stuff is full of BPD hoes. Actually I think there was one in Gilgamesh too.
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>>24938995
best translation?

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Which books should I read to best understand the argentinian soul?
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>>24944675
King
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>>24945530
I mean 100+ years ago US was a shithole itself. Their rise did not begin until the two wars
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>>24943418
man i wish
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>>24943398
So Pynchon was an unitario? Terrible news.
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>>24943388
Pic related.
>>24943400
And this. I read it back in 2018 and the authors nailed it, their depiction of the argentinian idiosyncrasy is awfully accurate.

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Has anyone tried the Marshall McLuhan method of only reading the right page of non-fiction works? I'm trying to figure out how to get through books quicker while still appropriately understanding them.
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>>24944990
my dad calls this the page 72 test
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>>24944998
How to Read a Book by Mortimer Adler. Read that. Ideally, you use the book in itself as you read as a practical exercise of its theory.
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>>24944510
I dont know if this works with books, but it works with horribly long "Am I the asshole? Be me, (27m), and my gf (16f)..." type stories that go off on long pointless tangents
>read the first sentence of a paragraph
>read the final sentence of a paragraph
>skip all the middle shit
The first sentence introduces the idea. The final sentence summarizes the paragraph.
Everything in between is just pointless backstory about how seven years ago they had a watch that got a scratch in it so actually blah blah blah...
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>>24945131
I always do that on the internet, sometimes I won't even bother reading the start. I will just read the finish of it and not bother reading the rest of it.
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>>24944510
imma try it

>it's literally just smut
Why do pseuds love Batallie so much again?
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>>24942746
It made me cum
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>>24941966

Bataille, that high priest of voluptuous incoherence, writes as though language itself were a sacrificial animal to be flayed, dismembered, and paraded about in ecstatic tatters. His prose lurches between mystical fever and scholarly grimace, giving the impression of a librarian who has abruptly joined a cult mid–card catalog. He delights in exalting the sordid and solemnizing the absurd, working himself into such theoretical contortions that one wonders whether he is unveiling profundities or simply performing a burlesque in the vestibule of the Absolute. Reading him, one senses not a system but a séance; ideas materialize in gusts of incense and then evaporate, leaving behind only the rustle of his lavish, self-consumptive seriousness.

And yet it is precisely this mixture of smoldering taboo and sacerdotal jargon that draws the pseuds to him like moths to a black flame. For the aspiring esotericist, Bataille offers the perfect camouflage: a swirling fog of sanctified obscenity in which one may posture as a fearless spelunker of the human abyss without ever needing a lantern of coherent thought. His pages provide the intoxicating illusion of participating in forbidden knowledge—knowledge one need not actually understand, for opacity itself is taken as proof of depth. In the generous gloom of his prose, the pseud may pirouette, whispering about transgression and sovereignty, convinced that the resulting shadows are their own emanations, rather than merely reflections cast by Bataille’s endlessly flickering bonfire of the cryptic.
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>>24942746
i can smell your leaky clitty
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>>24941974
>But story of the eye is pretty much only smut
It's also deeply sacrilegious.
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>>24941966
because it's smut

Continuing to read Goethe's Italian Journey, I've just finished up the section where he's in Venice. It's amazing how enchanted he is with the place. Having been to Venice myself, I suppose I can agree with him.

I do think it's funny that it's 1786 and he's complaining about the garbage in the streets and how there's disgusting sewage that floods the walkways of the city at high tide. 240 years later nothing has changed.

He also remarks on how Venice has diminished, that its power from its days of glory is weaker, and the whole Republic has begun to decay. I suppose this was less than 50 years before Napoleon swept in and just extinguished the Republic with one fell swoop.

He sees a lot of plays while he's here. He enjoys the ones that depict everyday Venetians, and apparently, so do the Venetians themselves.

He sees the famous horses at St. Mark's Basilica. I'm surprised he doesn't remark that they're from Constantinople; maybe that wasn't well-known in his time.
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>>24945093
Thanks for the book report anon (I mean it unironically)
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>>24945093
good

i'm moving to sneeden in the next year or two & am learning the language in preparation. what are some good swedish books with not-too-difficult prose i can pick up to help me along? i've got a diglot of tranströmer's complete works but that's it
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>>24944768
How did you meet?
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If your white, i recommend kallocain by karin boye, as well as fälld vindbrygga and other poetic works by örnulf tigerstedt (if your into poetry of course)
However if you are brown or black, your not welcome so fuck off
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>>24940410
strindberg is really difficult, im a native speaker and i can harldy grasp his works
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>>24935817
this
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>>24935815
sweden sucks

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I’m a Kafka
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>>24944001
Are you suggesting a superiority complex is nothing more than the other side of the shitty coin of an inferiority complex??!
Because if so, I would agree with you.
:)
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>>24944940
it wasnt that funny
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>>24942589
If you are alluding to Dostoevsky’s worst novels, then, indeed, I dislike intensely The Brothers Karamazov and the ghastly Crime and Punishment rigamarole. No, I do not object to soul-searching and self-revelation, but in those books the soul, and the sins, and the sentimentality, and the journalese, hardly warrant the tedious and muddled search. Dostoyevsky’s lack of taste, his monotonous dealings with persons suffering with pre-Freudian complexes, the way he has of wallowing in the tragic misadventures of human dignity – all this is difficult to admire. I do not like this trick his characters have of ”sinning their way to Jesus” or, as a Russian author, Ivan Bunin, put it more bluntly, ”spilling Jesus all over the place." Crime and Punishment’s plot did not seem as incredibly banal in 1866 when the book was written as it does now when noble prostitutes are apt to be received a little cynically by experienced readers. Dostoyevsky never really got over the influence which the European mystery novel and the sentimental novel made upon him. The sentimental influence implied that kind of conflict he liked—placing virtuous people in pathetic situations and then extracting from these situations the last ounce of pathos. Non-Russian readers do not realize two things: that not all Russians love Dostoevsky as much as Americans do, and that most of those Russians who do, venerate him as a mystic and not as an artist. He was a prophet, a claptrap journalist and a slapdash comedian. I admit that some of his scenes, some of his tremendous farcical rows are extraordinarily amusing. But his sensitive murderers and soulful prostitutes are not to be endured for one moment—by this reader anyway. Dostoyevsky seems to have been chosen by the destiny of Russian letters to become Russia’s greatest playwright, but he took the wrong turning and wrote novels.
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>>24942589
Honestly I can see why Kafka never wanted any of his work published. I thought it was edgy and cool when I was kid but now I can hardly stand his woe-is-me pansy ass crying interspersed with his weirdo gooner fantasies of fucking some poor servingwoman or whatever.
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>>24942589
me too

After Genderswap Reincarnation I Raised the Strongest Slopper Edition

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>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

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>>24946376
got it in one
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Last week the only thing I could do was write, I had no distractions at all.
After writing 7k words in a relatively comfortable day I was forced to confront the reality that I could literally do that every day if I just stopped getting distracted by the internet and other shit.
I feel like a litrpg protagonist who was forced to push past his limits...
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>>24946390
I find I always right best in the morning, you can get going before your brain really has time for distractions.

Editing/rewriting in the evening is fine because you can do it a passage at a time.
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>>24946390
my character sheet remains unclassed because every time I start to get into writing a story I get 3 chapters in before collapsing under crippling doubt and give up to start a new one
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>>24946373
I don't write sequentially so I don't tend to have that particular problem. I just write

// bit about thing goes here

And then I continue writing other bits that feel right in the moment. In the end it's all stitched together and it only needs an editing pass to not be a jumble, which I was gonna do anyway.


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