>If there is a danger, it lies in the Negro music and dancing that has been imported into Europe. This music has completely won over a whole section of the cultured population of Europe, to the point of real fanaticism. It is inconceivable that the incessant repetition of the Negroes’ physical gestures as they dance around their fetishes or that the constant sound of the syncopated rhythm of jazz bands should have no ideological effects.Was unc spittin fax here?
>>24951243>beauty should be destroyed and trampled on by the ugly and the repulsiveKill yourself immediately.
>>24951245No, kill the beautiful instead. The horrifying ugly monsters must destroy the beautiful
>>24951229Thank you. But it sounds so lovely.
>>24950893>“Ora è impossibile immaginare che la ripetizione continuata dei gesti fisici che i negri fanno intorno ai loro feticci danzando, che l’avere sempre nelle orecchie il ritmo sincopato degli jazz-bands, rimangano senza risultati ideologici;>a) si tratta di un fenomeno enormemente diffuso, che tocca milioni e milioni di persone, specialmente giovani;>b) si tratta di impressioni molto energiche e violente, cioè che lasciano tracce profonde e durature;>c) si tratta di fenomeni musicali, cioè di manifestazioni che si esprimono nel linguaggio più universale oggi esistente, nellinguaggio che più rapidamente comunica immagini e impressioni totali di una civiltà non solo estranea alla nostra, ma certamente meno complessa di quella asiatica, primitiva ed elementare, cioè facilmente assimilabile e generalizzabile dalla musica e dalla danza a tutto il mondo psichico”Here's the direct quote, found it in Roberto Franchini's "Gramsci e il jazz"
>>24950751This is retarded. The inclusion of strong and persistent rhythm doesn’t eliminate the capacity for melody and longer forms. Listen to the Black Saint for an example
sansa editionASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_PageBlog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdyGeneral search: http://searcherr.work/TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chaptersold: >>24922194
>>24950925Damn, zoomers really have no taste in women.
>>24950902
>>24950856Ygritte getting BLACKED by the black bastard of the wall.
>>24950870Luv Emilia!
WOW this thread is fucking shit
I regularly see threads on JP and Zizek but less commonly Jung and rarely Lacan.I have been reading Lacan on and off throughout the year and it has been pretty revelatory to me. If I were to try to take a stab at summarizing Lacan for anons that haven’t studied him, basically everything is fake and gay, anything not fake and gay is real, and >you are a subject beneath the fake and gay but not exactly a 1:1 product of the fake and gay. Your motif should be to recognize that to understand the real through anything fake and gay is impossible, therefore traverse the fake and gay knowing it’s fake and gay in accordance to your desire(TM). If anyone with more experience in Lacanian thought disagrees with my shit take, feel free to correct. Question: Why is Lacan not talked about as often as Freud and Jung are, or perhaps in general? Is his thought too subversive? Is it because he’s French? Pic related, worst mistake of my life
Well as the resident Jungfag on this board I speak about him because he has a lot to say. The depths of his insight are huge, and the implications of his discoveries are huge. Doing philosophy without knowing Jung is far more hamstringing than doing it without knowing Plato or Aristotle imo.The reason I haven't looked into Lacan is because his influence seems to solely be in being namedropped by French and French-adjacent academics. I've heard he builds on Freud, but Freud was already surpassed long ago and given the worthlessness of Sartre, Camus, de Beaviour, etc. who these academics also namedrop I don't see anything to attract me to Lacan.
>>24950626If you want to start with Lacan, I found the Cambridge Introduction to Lacan to be a great primer. I am better versed in Jungian thought than Lacanian, but I’ve found the Lacanian lens to be rather useful for me personally. Consider giving it a quick glance to see if it’s interesting to you.>>24950606Interestingly, Lacan would reject that there is a “meta” to be reached. Everything is symbols (which leads to the point you raised), quite interesting imo.
Lacan is the comp. lit. survival outpost for German Idealists who cant read German.
>>24950626I’ve heard bits from Jung that made sense to me, but never sat right. And I think I know why now: psychiatrists borrow the authority of the poet without the poet’s vocation (calling).
>>24950725Iirc is was X where he goes through anxiety. You're right in the sense this is all made up, it's literally whatever you've created to convince yourself you need a sexual partner. No matter how many paradoxes you work through you eventually hit objet. Everyone has this though, theoretically pre-Lacanian ideas can still apply. Big O is usually why he ends up being popular with all of those other thinkers. Big O is the imaginary symbolic order or hypothetical authority that still excludes jouissance of other. Lacan couldn't create it without borrowing from a schematic that's Hegelian in some ways. So instead of a floating truth value system (Lacan rejects this) you get a sort of desirous paradox with floating values. This makes it popular to a wide variety of people. You can substitute a car in or frankly anything really and start using Big O. The catch is that whatever has been assigned doesn't have this applied value, you enter a register loop, objet is just objet you invented the values. At some point this is realized and whatever your left with is whatever your left with. There might still be a coherence loop, realization doesn't end the sequence arbitrarily, but the realization can't be reversed.
Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
>>24951060the most dog-true of dogs.
>>24950982yeah (uh), your poem be shitty (uh)your poem's not litty (uh)
>>24950982where were you going with this?
>>24951089>>24951129closer to the divine than u muhammed
Wrote this poem some while ago (printed in the last &). Would be interested in feedback/thoughts.
The end of the year is almost hereWhat are top 9 books you have read this year? You have read more than 9 books, right?
Please do not respond to the frog poster ever again.
Please do respond to the frog poster once again.
>>24951183A Farewell to ArmsLaurusThe Shadow of the TorturerFaustThe Sorrows of Young WertherWilhelm Meister's ApprenticeshipThe Great DivorceThat All Shall Be SavedMadame Bovary
1. An AdulteryTropic of CancerGerminalCannery RowPierre; or, The AmbiguitiesA Heart So WhiteMadame BovaryThe Star RoverThe Kingdom of this World
Thoughts on Pyrrhonism?
>>24950720It's hilarious that, in the 4th century BC, you could found your own "school of philosophy" by traveling to India with Alexander the Great and learning from the gymnosophist grand ascetics that "different people believe different things."We live in hell.
>>24950733People today have access to so many different views that any intelligent person who explores them will be considerably less at ease with any one perspective. Being exposed to India didn't just bring exposure to Buddhist ideas, it also showed first-hand how very diverse views could be and how they all took themselves as dogma.Juan Donoso Cortés actually feared this, in his essay on Catholicism, Liberalism and Socialism, he says that the great cacophony of views and dogmas will just drive society to nihilism, and that, he argues, is justification for enforcing Catholicism and stamping out opposing viewpoints
>>24950720Anything is better than reading the usual platostotle slop.
>>24951215Not a great plan
>>24951215Why are Catholics so dumb?
Apologize.
>>24950957well, i contributed more to the discussion than you, and for all the noncaring you still replied you fucking faggot
>>24951064Your diarrhea mouth is not a meaningful contributing to the discussion. You should become a tripfag so it will be easier to ignore you in the future.-Doctor Sax
>>24951106no, i will continue posting anonymus so you will be forced to come across my commentson the other hand, you still havend said anything of substance, could it be that you are a beatnik and are offended at every critiscm hurled at them
On the Road really reveals two different types of people: Those who finish the book, take the ending as especially important, and are disillusioned. The others take the bulk of the book and are electrified by its energy, wit and exuberance. Me, I'm the latter.
>>24951127tldr
In a world where 90% of the internet traffic is online video streaming, to detriment of the environment and our minds, why aren't you rejecting modernity and going to the library? The library is literally free and fun for all ages. It is the most environmentally and civic minded thing you can do. Instead of being in a haze of pleasure, living in a digital cocoon of reels and streams, why aren't you forging the future of humanity? The weight of the world is on your shoulders and only you can make a better world.
>>24945338>And I can't hang out in a nice library like Toronto's reference library, because I was born in Suburban Hell.This is my regular spot and its every bit as magical as you'd imagine. cute girls too
>>24943966>All your actions will be judged one day by a super intelligence and they will pinpoint the exact moment your marginal notes in a book had convinced the world's next global Napoleon to create a political system that will solve all the existential crises of the world: climate change, war, poverty, disease, political collapse, and the nuclear holocaust!>The library is the mind of society and shall dictate where our future world consciousness may tread. You begin as a humble bookworm, but your actions will echo throughout the centuries, and your ideas will forge the next explorers of the universe!
>>24943918I love the library, the service keeps getting better here.
>>24943994>However it's filled to the brim with eastern Europeans somehow.Do you by any chance live in eastern europe.
>>24943918If your library sucks, you're most likely poor
>can't win over blacks>can't win over poorfags>outright enemies of blue collar workers>not taken seriously/ seen as useful idiots by their intellectually inferior middle class liberal pragmatic allies >can't/won't win over the armed forces>can't/won't win over the intelligence agencies>can't/won't win over the politicians>decent success rate with middle class children (dropped by junior yr), academics, homosexuals and trannys.Is there a book which explains how this leads to revolutionary success or should i just see all the le-science-of-hisory 2-more-weeksism from the past 200 years?
Communists used to have a lot of success with the working class. Usually in very backward countries that were more feudal than industrial.
>>24951056The bug eating is being pressed by neoliberal internationalist commercial imperialism. The same people who have obscured the origins of the revolutionary age and turned you into a mere consumer slave and an proud autist of the anti-immigrant party>>24951140>World Economic Forum is marginally about global capitalUhh
>>24951157No. Their means are capitalist, their structure and ends are communist. Read the Trotskyists.
>>24950519>>24950644>>24950906>>24950919Great posts. I declare this the official political economy and history thread.
>>24951160>their structure and ends areTHE EXACT SAME AS ANY IMPERIALISM. The bugaboo about the NWO and One World Government is real. The liberal capitalist elites have always wanted this, and the socialists, communists and anarchists found them out from the earliest days. Their alternative is to keep localized controls. Marxism is a stupid fantasy that was well funded and encouraged by capitalists only to create a Fabian like villain to obscure the actual revolutionary goal of All Power to the People (not their stupid political parties)Their structure is not specifically Marxist-Leninist, but whatever authoritarian system works, they will use it.The goal of the commune is in the fucking name and the origin of the word. Trotsky killed true socialists in the Black Army after they helped rid Ukraine of the White tzarists. He was a reactionary traitor.>>24951156They only have temporary success because all they have is the baffle with bullshit tactic
>december 2025>novel still unfinished
>>24948774I was just thinking about getting back into writing since the holiday season is upon us. But at least you started something. What I am going to try is just do short works. Rather than trying to do a magnum opus which will never happen until far in the future. I also always sputter off around 50k words anyway.
>published a short story collection last october>hung up on a fanfic I haven't finished in 3 yearsI am God's silliest punchline.
>>24949403The last 10% is the most difficult and longest part, anon.
>>24948774Hey man dont fret, Rome wasn't built in a day:^)
>>24950537The strongest motivation ive had after a real bad rut was listening to Robert Rodriguez's recent appearance on Rogan. His outlook on life is fascinating, and infectious. Got more writing done than I have in a long while after listening to that.https://youtu.be/KxGtxPV1xoc?si=17WdXC5wyld5tDRv
This book changed my life for the better
>>24951147U mad, Tristan?
>>24950598>i don't think it's a "vast majority"It's the vast majority.
how to please womenstep 1: do not be eager to please women
>>24946749I am circumcised and therefore not physically capable of pleasuring a woman, so unfortunately I will have to pass on this one
>>24948751who's gonna tell him
Two Weeks Left Edition>Old:>>24936611>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>24951209>Proper NOVELS are rare in Japanese publishing.Pretty grim.
>>24951209>and illustrations.interestingly it's a way of making money for artists beyond just covers
>>24951190>>24951181>>24951195>>24951209thank you for enlighting me
>>24951216it's not better or worse, just a different market. it should be noted novels that get translated to japanese don't transform into light novels so it's just native works.
>>24951216Just a sign of where the money is. Japan had a big novel-publishing industry in the 20th century, but it's mostly shifted gears toward light novels and web novels since that's what people are reading.
Do Tolkiendrones realize that fantasy existed before Lord of the Rings and that it suffered greatly from Big Fat Fantasy and other sloppy derivatives that grew like viruses from Tolkien's wen? https://voca.ro/1Rwc7lMX0hfT
>>24948235*Techno-fascism or the industrial age. He's kind of like uncle Ted like this.
>>24951130Ted was a nutter, a primativist. Tolkien was merely nostalgic for a slightly earlier era of civilization, before rapacious expansion and greed caused it to fall completely out of balance with nature. Ted would've turned his dissatisfaction with society toward Tolkien's ilk after the industrialists were all dead. I'd argue Tolkien was not even anti-progress, he simply did not like the way industry had become an all-devouring engine that demolished the world around it. Thoughtless, heedless progress was something he wrote against. Comes up again and again.
>>24951176Ted wasn't crazy. His influence of course was Ellul. Not sure what Tolkien may have thought of him, but his thoughts seem to me to be inspired by some socialist thoughts of his youth, notably from William Morris' News From Nowhere. Which has a rather Shire like description of London in the early 21st century IF a revolution had happened a hundred years before.Why I said "like uncle Ted"
>he wrote an epic in an elevated style>he's not inclusive>he promotes hierarchies and aristocracy>he believes in objective truth and natural rights>he wrote that fantasy isn't just escapism>THAT IS A REVOLTING IDEAI laughed so hard. Seethe harder.
>>24951232>Quotes found in my own turds!>Very reliable! kys
I just finished reading Journey to the West for a book report. holy shit Chinese books are awesome. Does anyone have the china /lit/ recommendations?
>>24948810Give it a rest man. This "poetry can't be translated" thing has been a dead end non-point for centuries. Just read some. Read this, for example.
>>24947522YOU UYGURYOU HAN HATE FIERCEWHY YOU ARWAYS FUCKING RATE
>>24948830I didn't say it's impossible, but it's a lot harder and more subjective.
>>24947522Yu Hua's To Live is one of the best chinese books ever, it has been in top 10 monthly bestsellers in china for like last 30 years and it is great for learning chinese. It's been nicknamed 'Chinese Forrest Gump', but it is much better and does not rely on 'epic reference' basedjak writing.Red Sorghum by Mo Yen is another modern classic, but it is far more experimental in it's non-linear narrative that is like some kind of collective flow of mind.The two books also cover similar time period - sino-japanese war and early communist times (To Live starts earlier and goes further).Start with these - they are basically an equivalent of starting american literature with Hemingway, Steinbeck and Firzgerald (which most do) - classics but not ancient. Like when you want to get into british literature you do not start with Beowulf or Canterbury Tales.Sure knowing Confucius and Lao Tse will make those two books (especially To Live) better, but they are good even without it.
>>24947877in other words, no understanding at all?
thoughts on this guy?
>>24949859he's ehhh rather poekay
>>24949859Incredibly underrated. In American literature there is Melville and Poe and no third fiddle.
>>24950104Emerson.
>>24950104Clark Ashton Smith
>>24951192I think by "American Literature" he meant something other than this quick decent into dime store schlock of the ages>Herman Melville, Edgar Allan Poe, Clarke Ashton Smith, William Moulton Marston, Chuck Tingle.More the greats of an age.>Melville, Darwin, NietzscheBut of course a region as well>Meleville, Emerson, Whitman.
