And it is awesome all the same
Fuckin Nobel prize to this guy in 1970. Well deserved
so are you faggots even aware that the best science fiction novel of the twenty-first century was finally released in english today?
>>24862598Not even trying to dissuade you but no, their shipping of books is notoriously awful. I get a hardcover last year in such poor condition that somehow the jacket wasnt just fucked up on the outside, it was literally ripped on the inside flap.
>>24863032Damn. I guess I'll try somewhere else.
>>24863027
I ain't reading any 1,200 page fiction, sorry.
>>24862598Amazon is so shit at this I don't think I have a single book from them without a ding. Which is amazing for a company that exists because they outcompeted bookstores. The upside is making returns or demanding compensation is usually hassle free and at their expense. Savings on big ticket items can be enormous to my local stores (-30%, -50%) so I actually bother what can be several rounds of back and forth. If you aren't seeing big savings for god's sake buy from someone else.
How do you feel about the rise of anti-intellectualism within the last half-decade?
>>24863190And the most anti intellectual thing anyone can do is to not vote Trump
>>24862832Why you write about rape? Perv.
>>24862826Putting down a book written by a woman is midwit behavior. Intellectualism is never picking it up.
>>24863205>hmm i can't defend against his point better attack something irrelevantEat shit boomer jew
>>24862808 It's this >>24863137 Nothing new under the sun.
Aeschylus vs Sophocles vs Euripides vs Aristophanes Who is better?
>>24861969Euripedes is the absolute worst. No, having the gods literally deus ex machina your plot is not profound.
>>24862527I can tell you're insecure because you think you need to impress by being "in the know" and saying Prometheus Bound is a disputed work (and not knowing dick all about how disputed that claim is). You sound mad, maybe you should take a nappy wappy.
>>24861969Sophocles, but don't go in there with Freud in mind, that dude was a hack who ruined Sophocles for normal people
>>24862017redeem this cock in your mouth bitch
>>24861998If you didn’t catch it, Prometheus Bound is a metaphor for reaching understanding of One. Before Prometheus men are described as being stuck in sense phenomenon - “the ears that do not hear and the eyes which do not see.” Prometheus brings to them fire, the eternal truth whicch exists on a higher level and he is punished for it. The whole thing is a metaphor for going outside of the world as a physical plane and seeing it for its totality.
Which works by Michel Foucault should I be familiar with before jumping into this? I heard Umberto Eco is very thorough in his research for his novels.
Tried reading this with a friend and we didn't finish it. It's not bad per se, quite witty and atmospheric at times. But it's just not all that immersive imo, sure the "drawing connections to everything" is fun to read, but I find there's a bit of a lack of actual mystery to the book, and there's other authors that do the paranoid fiction thing better. And the little romance there is is kinda meh
>>24862307It's not paranoid fiction in itself, it's merely about paranoid fiction.
>>24862114I really don't think you need toread Foucault at all for this. The Name of the Rose would be more useful, even Pynchon would help more, perhaps the WW2 era Calvino stories in order to get a better take on the emotional aspect of Italy's war humiliation. Why that matters may not be apparent till the final chapters
>>24862115I like Umberto Eco. But you shouldn't read any of Foucault's books because they are all bad.
>>24862307The main plot doesn't really kick off until 400 pgs in
REFORGED FROM RUIN EditionStubbed >>24854248>What is /wng/ - Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>/wng/ authors.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24863133sky pride I guessthe thing about "fun group of characters" is that that's usually found family bullshit and I don't have much tolerance for that
>>24861991>Genre?military space opera tragedy
>>24861342Yes it is worth holding back. Two reasons.>1 - Ads Are Already AnnoyingNobody likes ads. Ads are annoying by nature, even when it's for something we like, want, or even need. So when someone clicks on an ad, they're giving you a chance but they're already frowning. We stop hating the ad when the product advertised is actually good. In your case, that product is your wn. If I click an ad and see it has 3 chapters, I'm not going to read them and say "Hey, this is neat, I should keep an eye on this!" What I'm thinking is "You dragged me here to look at this? Why did I waste my fucking time, ugh! Time to scroll tiktok instead."When someone clicks an ad, you have One Chance to make them stay. You need to pitch them a good product. That means quality, yes, but you need quantity too. Think of it like a dish; If you serve me the best food of my life, but all you have for me is a teeny tiny bite-sized sampling, I'm going to want more. And if I can't have it or have to wait for it, I'm not going to say "Well, what I had was good at least", I'll say "Well now I'm STILL hungry, so I guess I'll go somewhere else to eat my fill.">2 - Sunk Cost FallacyHave you ever read something that's kind of mediocre, not bad but not amazing either, but it has potential so you keep reading and even if you run out of chapters, you STILL check in for the next release cause you're already 60 chapters in?You want this effect when someone reads your wn.If someone clicks on your ad, then ideally, you want them to get invested. Let them lay down their roots so they don't leave. If the soil's too shallow, they'll uproot themselves easily.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24863239>Sunk Cost FallacyThis is a completely foreign mentality to me. If I read something for 300 chapters and it's not paying off, then the pressure to stop wasting my time just gets higher.
>>24862946>What do I call a robot skeleton covered in protrusions of high grade armor, specifically designed to fuck with bladed weapons? It's fast and has a boxer type stance cos it has small shields on its arms and spikes inside them (pilebunkers)"bullshit"
she's already done with:harry potterartemis fowlnarniaa series of unfortunate eventsspook's (aka the last apprentice)percy jacksonearth's childrenwhat now?
>>24860881The Hobbit is way too childish for a twelve year old and Fellowship starts off in a very child friendly manner. Having her read one book per year (starting with Fellowship) wouldn't overload her with information and she'd mature along with the characters.
>>24860798My favourite childhood novels (11/12 yo) were the Name of the Rose and the Dark Tower series. Read that shit like thrice.
>>24861420>15yo>little brainsyou asshole
>>24862167are you a girl though?
>>24862167Mine were James Bond, SAS and whatever shitty sci-fi pulp I could find.And Sade.
So tomorrow I'm starting this book for the first time: what am I in for ?
>>24863225Because I'm saving it for the bus !
>>24863234Save this:*unzip penis*
>>24863236Hey, I'm NOT a faggot, I had sex with mostly women !
>>24863253Whatever. Read it now. Its no a Sanderson doorstep!
>>24863180I liked The Aleph much more.
Is it worth reading nowdays? I'm talking about Harvard Classics, Great Books Reading List and Curriculum, etc. Princeton Classics Department not even require Greek and Latin for students anymore.Why most college and university reading lists nowdays are 10 books tops? Cambridge recommends I Am Malala, Life Of Pi, Dune, but not Seneca, Plato or Aurelius.
>>24862708I had to instruct it to look for hardcovers from reputable publishers and in general books with a high quality comparable to loeb or folio wherever possible because I want longevity for the books I do buy (though I download a bunch because these are expensive and hard to get sometimes). Picrel is the inside of a single week of reading. The benefit of having an account and having had other conversations with the AI is that it has some semblance of how I operate best, which is why it recommends what it does in this case. I also talked to it about how to take notes in the case of history and philosophy because I like the Cornell method and it helped me refine that for the specifics of this program.You still have to use good judgement and pick some thing beforehand, I chose Chris Wickham's book as a core for my Early Middle Ages from what I know of it and made it run with that as the spine of the program. Also, if anyone wants to try this, find video lectures on the subject and go through them rapidly without taking notes and even without paying too much attentions (I did 5 yale lectures in the car in a day when I had to drive a lot) because it gives you an overview and you can orient yourself and know where to 'fit' the knowledge that comes from reading the books later.
bumperoni
My AI tutor recommends me a work from the western canon (currently on Plato's Republic) and we set up a thing called a tryptych, where it recommends a movie, painting, and music.
>>24862308>the coming collapse of modern education>coming
>>24863265Its funny how there have been predicting this moment from twenty years ago. The world is full of Cassandras.
IM TOO DUMB TO ENJOY READING WHAT NOW
>>24862828if you can read posts here then you're not too dumb for books. You either try books that are too hard for you rn or have zoomer tier attention span. Either way you can work it out and you probably should, unless you want to be stuck in a cesspool with /v/irgins ot /tv/tards
lol
even niggers read anon, have some shame
>>24862828Read poetry.Read comics.Anyway, if you want recs, say what you like from other media.
Impossible. I'm a complete retard who finished his first short book at 20 and I still enjoy reading. Don't force yourself to read a classic for the sake of it, read whatever you want, find what you like, disconnect from the internet, and make it a habit. Replace 4chan time with reading and you'll want to come back to it. If you read 20 pages at day that's 600 pages a month and 7300 pages a year. Nothing easier than that.
I wrote for ten years, didn't get published until five years ago, and then I've only had middling success with five stories, a dozen poems, and essays. I just use it to get a foot in the door with some jobs. Other than that, it's been a massive time sink. I might give up soon because I've painted myself into a corner.
>>24862215Cool
Of course it's a time sink, that's what makes it valuable in the first place. Maybe it's a matter of personality, but this is why it's best to enjoy writing more than having written.
>>24862215All that time wasted when you could've been using it to get better at video games. How do you live with yourself?
>>24862227I could've worked more or studied something that could get me money.
>>24862225You don’t enjoy what you’re good at. Most people who like writing are bad at it.
Give me your honest thoughts on Ursula Le Guin's Earthsea series. I think her comments on white people were embarrassing and I guess 2nd wave Feminism is super quaint nowadaysBut damn could she write
Also Rowling, the weird Fablehaven mormon guy, among countless other fantasy authors owe her big time
I watched the movie and thought, "That was garbage. They must've butchered the book." But then I read part of the book and realized it was already garbage.
>>24863270The story behind that movie is insanely funny. From what I recall Miyazaki gave his hated son the reigns, and the first thing his son did was add an opening scene where a boy murders his dad (the "king" kek) and runs away
>“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”>Hunter S. Thompson
>>24859529Adventurous for his time sure (ignoring the parts where he’s clearly lying). But it just feels lame looking back on it today. Doing cocaine and drinking to excess isn’t impressive anymore, it’s what the average corporate wage slave does on a weekly basis.
>>24858467RousseauRussellInterestingly their names are kind of similar
>>24859704"being a wageslave is based, infiltrating a motorcycle gang to do journalism, creating a new type of journo while at it, is onions"
>>24862206Can you redpill me on Nietzsche? From the excerpts we read in school and my limited secondhand knowedge, I think of him as a whiny cuckboy constantly seething about Christians and Wagner. What am I missing out on?
>>24858467J.S. Mill.
You guy's think Raskolnikov's Great Man Theory was correct? I'm guessing people like Napoleon maybe felt bad for killing people to achieve great things, but they were able to simply handle it because they were greatAre you a great man?
>>24862689He achieved nothing great because the killing itself wasn't supposed to be the great thing, it was the means to it. The point is that Raskolnikov couldn't handle such a means, but a "Great Man" could've.
>>24859792Raskolnikov’s views on Napoleon are inherently incorrect, so his theory will be incorrect just based on that alone. Napoleon is not someone who killed people because he felt superior or anything like it. Anyone who thinks that Napoleon didn’t have a conscience is beyond retarded.
>>24862815What about Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, or idk, Vlad The Impaler
>>24860694What's a good way to find out if you have a conscience?
>>24859792The Great Man theory is true. Despite War and Peace being my favorite book, Tolstoy is retarded when disputing it.
>Clarissa>Tristram Shandy>Tom Jonesthe holy trinity
Clarissa is the best 18th century novel, 100 years ahead of its time in psychological depth.
>>24863116I read translations, as well.
>>24860369>Gulliver's Travels>Tristram Shandy>Tom Jones
>Smollet's Picaresques>Early Romanticism>Gothic Literature>Stockings and Breeches18th Century is objectively better than the 19th century. Everything the 19th century did, the 18th century did first.
>>24860369Imma give Tom Jones a try
