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More like picrel? Books that show the complexity and depth of human experience and intellectual life before modernity, actually takes them seriously, revives what has been lost or forgotten, etc.

Also, anyone ever utilized the mind palace methodology described herein? I experimented last night and just permanently memorized a list of ingredients on a box lol. Seems extremely potent.
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>>24861947
How do you know God doesn't need electricity to operate. That could be literally the exact mechanism by which God operates. We can't know.

The electric universe theory certainly seems to show God is electric.
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>>24857951
Best thread on /lit/ so it deserves a bump. This is a pumpkin spider. Isn't he cool? found him in a Bush next to my garage.

If you read this far then post a reply to the thought that and AI could effectively be god. That's the plot of Asimov's "The Last Question".
An anon claimed that the divine could do impossible things like resurrect the dead so a computer could never be Divine. But it seems fairly certain that we COULD resurrect the dead in a few hundred years. Humans are nought but an advanced biological machine. What possible reason could you have for thinking consciousness is outside of biology.

That's just vitalism with extra steps and we cleared that hurdle like 700 years ago. AI could definitely resurrect the dead once perfected in its knowledge of the universe. Like, why exactly do these people who claim to be so logical and analytical continue to push the idea of vitalism, and the thought that there is some magical shit that makes consciousness.
What is so terrible about consciousness being a random outcome of neural networks?? How is that bad in anyway??

It seems obvious that the backlash and anger at the thought of existence being random and "not real" comes from fear and anger at not being important. Incel ideology.

If I'm a random robot that has no real imperative then I should be happy in my freedom. I should embrace every moment and every person until I've experienced every possible pleasure, and heartache, and in-between. And then you can know that you lived a full Life, regardless of the intentions or reasoning you know that you will live a very long time in the hearts and minds of those who learn of you.
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>>24862323
wow! thank you very much anon
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>>24857951
Sertillanges - The Intellectual Life
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>>24860777
It's a very old magical practice posited as a mnemonic technique. Many such cases.

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What is your opinion on the work of jk Rowling?
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>>24860645
They don't want to castrate any male who doesn't want to be castrated.
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>>24855495
Read her kids books when I was a kid and liked them, haven't read them since. Movies are comfy kino due to nostalgia but they're imperfect. Ever since those movies everything has been slop and it will continue to do so without end until the world's inevitable incoming collapse, because it is just too profitable to keep it going.
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>>24855514
It's for kids, it never was lame, the manchildren in arrested development that consume this shit at 35 are lame. It's the same with Star Wars.
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>>24860560
He's on 4chan, of course he's not a functional adult.
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>>24855495
Prob the greatest writer for children's fantasy book, along with lord of the rings.

And her non-work related stance on women being only biological women is based too. She lived through the era of women's right and feminism as women's movement, not men pretending to be one.

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This series is severely underrated.
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It's pretty good.
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>>24864085
Exactly but it's barely ever talked about even when way more mediocre fantasy series are commonly discussed.
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turns to shit when the protagonist changes
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>>24864111
This
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>>24864111
Those were still better than most of the more commonly discussed fantasy slop.

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>your fetish
>your favourite author

Incest M&S
Kafka
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Devotee. More specifically I'm into amputees, wheelchairs, facial scars. That sort of thing.
Macedonio Fernández
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feminization (receiving)
Chekhov
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>breeding/impregnation
>Hunter S. thompson, Dostoevsky
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>>24862787
Holy bvsed...
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>>24858474
>armpits/facesitting
>faulkner/REH

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I've been coming here for years now but I think it might be time to stop soon. It just doesn't do it for me anymore, it's not really helping me in any way. I don't get any benefits, hasn't helped me with women, money, or meeting people. I'm not getting any joy out of it anymore like I used to. It also eats up too much of my time.

So yeah after shitposting here for many years, on and off I admit, it might be time to finally call it quits and move on with my life, so my new years resolution will be to quit /lit/
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I'm thinking about getting rid of all my electronics and sticking to books and films only for a while.

Probably not. See you tomorrow.
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>>24864330
I have been saying this about 4chan since 2016 ish
I eventually do quit and make a Reddit account or I join Twitter or something. I think I've lasted a week at most. I just can't do it. Especially Reddit makes me feel so terrible. So I delete the account and come crawling back here. It's shit, it's full of bots, there's genuine autist spammers everywhere, I fucking hate it, it's horrible, I fucking hate 4chan but there is literally nowhere else to go, no other place on the internet. Maybe I am just conditioned, I think, after all people make long posts on Reddit, but then I read Reddit posts and I understand. All the smaller imageboards and textboards are pretty much dead now cause they got spammed with pizza all the time. The ones that are left are even worse. I miss pre-gamergate 4chan so much
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>>24864341
This. All other places with accounts and shit are just not it.

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This is the only genre that makes money and the money train isn't stopping any time soon. Short of a puritanical John Carpenter style government, there will always be demand for this shit.

The question is, can a dude write successful girlporn? This is the literary question.
I'm going to read this milking farm thing and see if I can't get a knack for how women write. I'm suspecting it's a bit like this:

>Minimal attention to details and the world, emphasis on personal impressions and feelings; the world as a set of things that make you feel different ways.
>Braindead, 12-15 year old brain simplicity.
Imagine a Middle School girl trying to "speed download" social gossip updates to a friend.
>Vanity, ego, zero accountability, petty delusions, cliches.
This will require a bit of research and marketing savvy just to collect up what today's cliches are. Fortunately, women are dead simple and just go on TikTok/Twitter and see what buzzwords come up a lot.
>Sultry language.
This one's tough. From what I understand explicit, gross language is what sells this shit and is the female equivalent of visually seeing porn. On the other hand, I have a feeling that I could write porn that is vastly more detailed and explicit than what women read and would alienate them. I have a feeling it's just stuff like, "sweaty" "bulge" "heaving" "cock!" "pulsing". Words that sound distinctly naughty but remain vague. It's not about visualizing, even through text, sexual mechanics. It's about breaking social taboos so women feel "naughty" and liberated from their neurotic sexual restraints.
>Female attraction
This is tough. How far do you go with "big muscles, ripped body"? How much do women want to read that, and when is it too much? Women like being dominated but they like to feel it was their choice to be dominated. As a man who understands women very well, I don't want to tap into their sexual triggers too accurately because that might lead to a sense of "revealing too much" about female sexuality which women don't like. They like most of it to remain implicit and simple.


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>>24863584
>if a woman did something and never posted about it how would you know?
You mean cheating? I just assume they all cheat.
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>>24850035
>As a man who understands women very well
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>>24863601
I mean if women read something and never post about it, how are you to know?
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>>24860659
>You can recognize chicks who draw erotica for chicks because there's a lot more of a narrative and a mood and they draw better.
Lol
Lmao even.

The idea that women are more emotionally driven sexually or the like is a myth, it's absolutely a fucking myth. Their natural inability to identify with people they don't see as being "like them" enough makes it so they usually can't get into most visual porn, and the fact that their physical desires are more heavily decoupled from their emotional desires than men is also a factor, but what this means is that they tend to just get horny completely detached from their sexual and romantic interests and then gaslight themselves into the latter.

Their porn though is still full of throbbing giant cocks getting forced into tight holes, fat asses and tits slapped around, getting choked like sluts, and all of that, constantly. It's all powerfully built or svelte men using women like fucktoys and making them love it.

And it checks out in reverse, plenty of dudes love a swathe of written girl porn because unlike women they can easily insert themselves into the role of the dude and just imagine being a jacked as fuck minotaur or demon or whatever with some desperate slut literally whoring herself out to throat your cock. Ergo, it's the same shit fundamentally.
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>>24863422
nope. teenage boys do not go through a phase of being afraid of feminine bodily features, they just like tits and asses from the start. how's a young guy going to be afraid of tits when he used to suck on them for sustenance? and there's zero reason to "grow out" of liking tits, tits are features of an adult fertile woman, there's no dysfunction here. on the other hand young girls are often afraid of the features of an adult male, like large bodies, facial and body hair, muscles, strong jawlines etc, and they gravitate towards the temporary compromise of "girlish" boys, or they obsess over horses, which are "masculine" but sexually unthreatening. they're supposed to grow out of this. some don't.

boybands have always exploited this, although focusing mostly on actual young girls and not batshit crazy middle-aged ladies. david bowie in the ziggy era was an early implementer of the technology. turns out if you act in a provocative manner while looking androgynous and wearing makeup girls aged 12-16 go into such a sexual frenzy the concert hall floor will be covered in three inches of pussy slime by the time they leave.

"There can be only one!" edition

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If that was actually the case anyone could just report it and we'll be deep inside /wg/s asshole again.
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>>24863459
You should just have her change into appropriate clothes. Do you know what a scull is like? It's not plausible that she's wearing street clothes going sculling. Also the whole sculling section is not very convincing. Are you saying the sculls are being kept outside with a bicycle lock? Boathouse, sand and pier doesn't sound right to me either or that if it's cold weather (she's wearing a coat?) as claimed, the old man is sitting there with his feet in the water or had just been swimming in a cold lake (hypothermia?).

I googled some of the place names mentioned in your story and my guess is that these locations and stuff are made up? Why not use real locations? There is something jarring about the juxtaposition of luxury watches and cars in a place like rural Kansas. They don't fit together in a very convincing way. Even her own car is something I don't associate with the Midwest (and yeah, you probably want to capitalize that), but with the Northeast. Though I guess if it's a college town, we can make an allowance for that.

>Townsmen
Townies would sound more natural

Mentioning God in the final sentence is probably not a good idea because it suddenly makes the story religious.
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In 2014 i would oftentimes go hiking with a friend who was a junkie. Everyone in the social circle reached the conclusion he's beyond saving but we still hung out with him from time to time, and he's never stolen anything or asked for substantial amounts of money. A few times he just passed out midway through the trek and i'd have to carry him gor kilometers to come. I'm not sure what he was doing exactly. I've gotten pretty nostalgic about those times. The guy is still alive, but i think he keeps quitting and then falling back into the vice on a semi-yearly basis.
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>>24864218
This is awesome I'm eager for reading more man.
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Wow, the real Judy Blume read my book, loved it, and now wants to be friends with me. I'm gonna be famous

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What books do you know that have a similar subject matter to Pynchon's Bleeding Edge?

I've already read most of his works, I'm talking about specifically COINTELPRO/War on Terror conspiracy type novels, excluding the usual spy fiction types like Le Carré.
I've heard about Don DeLillo's Mao II so far, is that one any good?
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>>24857252
Clifford the big red dog
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>>24861747
>RAF/Brigate Rosse memoirs already
Don’t about those but Aberration goes into MK Ultra, ayyliums and UFOs, the deep state, Operation Desert Storm, white supremacist/neo nazi terrorist cells, operation paperclip, and connects it all to the Oklahoma bombing. And it’s funny how Timothy McVeigh is just like the average /pol/tard, but the books paints him as a somewhat tragic character. It’s a very Pynchonesque book.
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>>24857252
The Illuminatus Trilogy
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>>24861747
>I never really looked into Gibson before
that's not merely Gibson though, it's Gibson in its 'post-sci-fi phase' or something, when he's trying to make the present feel like cyberpunk
it's hit or miss but pretty unique imho and I like him more for the attempt but my favorite Gibson novel is still Count Zero
also, be ready for a meandering plot going nowhere
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>>24864226
All right you've sold me on it !

REFORGED FROM RUIN Edition

Stubbed >>24854248

>What is /wng/ - Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

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>>24864258
SOURCE????
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>>24864258
hate to say but it's true
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>>24864248
what am I supposed to do?
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>>24864319
AI cover with big but modestly covered titties
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>>24864319
The covers you hate work, it's why people use them.

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When a particularly erotic book arouses me, I tend to masturbate - ferociously during the erotic scenes, and then a slight twist of my foreskin throughout the other junk.
This evening I decided to treat myself to an old-fashion rub-and-tug while I read the entirety of Platform in a sitting.
Y'know it's going well, I'm over here panting to young Thai girls, absolutely cranking my shit to Valérie - she sounds like a stunning big-breasted, thin-waisted lass - then out of fucking nowhere, Houellebecq makes his self-insert character happily give up his girl to another nigga, Jerome, for zero fucking reason.
So y'know, now I'm just sitting in my chair, limp-dicked, feeling like an absolute cuck with zero ambition to either finish the book or orgasm.
Fuck you, Houellebecq, you old gay fuck faggot.
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>>24861954
Thanks
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>>24861460
Platform is his book that's easy to deride. It can't be passed off as a rookie mistake and it's inflammatory on purpose. Most people often miss one of his most poignant commentaries though, virtually all males anywhere create a teenager fantasy about sex and it always devolves into more sex with more females. The character and arguably Houllebecq himself achieve realization of the futility and misery inducing nature of this fantasy once it can be done and then proceed to do it anyway.

>>24861950
Most will probably claim Elementary Particles. It's a good book but it also turns into a manifesto about all the shit no one can do anything about. His social criticism was refined to a point though and the juxtaposition of the 2 main characters is hard to beat.

Whatever usually gets overlooked, easy to see why once you read it, if you've ever had experiences like it though you immediately get the genius. If you haven't then you're probably going to think he's had a bad lunch.
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>>24861967
>Platform is his book that's easy to deride…
Don’t get me wrong, I love it. But it’s the one thats going to filter the most first time Houellebecqians
>>24861874
Is it? I think he was married and had a kid in his 20s but he was already semi-famous by his middle age
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are Houellebecq's essays worth reading?
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>>24862431
I'm struggling to think of a good place to start with Houllebecq but I would agree Platform isn't the ideal starting point.

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Why does the civil war basically not exist in American literature
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>>24864314
niggers
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>>24864314
Because all of the shitlib redditors and larping trannies who have overtaken the modern Civil War discourse, and transformed the narrative into the righteous anti-fascist north standing up to the treasonous nazi south, all fear this man.

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Other than these key scenes, what should I look out for?
>Hal’s academic concern interview
>Wardine be cry
>Marijuana heroic dose
>Quebecois assassination
>Concave
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>>24864304
The scat scene in this isn’t anywhere near as erotic as the Jewess in Infinite Jest
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>>24864304

>Hal and Mario in the bunk beds
>Hal clips his toenails
>Drug test prep time

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In a moment of weakness, I found an AI "smut" writing model that has no limits and doesn't require your email
I am now giving it increasingly deranged and sadistic imputs (brief plot outlines usually involving rape, sexual enslavement, etc.) and it describes them in vivid detail
Often I ask it to extrapolate at the end
It writes like a fucking reddit post, but it is still enough to goon to
This has started to consume more than an hour of my time per day
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Sounds fun man have a blast
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>>24864205
For me it was femboy roommates
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>>24864205
This but with local models, far less redditisms.
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>>24864205
Post some.
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>>24864205
What’s the model

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I am the last Schopenhauerian alive today.
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>>24863387
may you reproduce brother, inshallah
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what do you think of "basis of morality"?
i just finished it and it's interesting that he has compassion as fundament of ethics and also admits that women are intuitively more compassionate, while being bad judges.
Also kek at danish philosophical society rejecting it because he talked bad about other philosophers "of the highest standing".
Overall I didn't find it convincing because boundless compassion is currently wrecking western countries.
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>>24863387
We should have little Schopenhauerian babies together
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>>24864288
Nice try, you succubine foidlet. We will resist the Will and stay celibate as we withdraw from this world. Schopenhauer spoke of this.

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Dolores wasn't a heckin groomed abused victim, she was a knowing minx whore slut that knew exactly what she was doing and abused Humbert and exploited him, then left the only man that loved her so she could be a porn star and get pregnant with another mans child
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>>24864110
>He presents one version of the story while giving hints, through the behaviour of characters outside the main narrator, about another version of the same story.
such as? be specific.
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>>24864110
>a teenager is the same as a toddler actually. biology isn't real, only my feefees
>only the (female) victim's perspective is real, never the (male) perpetrator's, except if the victim ever implies she's not a victim, then she's wrong
>social norms invented yesterday are actually the eternal foundation of morality and you're super evil if you don't follow them by instinct in their present formulation
>(i will also reformulate them again tomorrow to be even more strict, while still pretending they are eternal)
>i will never present arguments for any of this, but i WILL continuously call you evil, stupid, sick etc hoping you can be shamed into accepting my ugly victimhood fetish as gospel
this is what happens when you teach women to read. a trembling pile of feminine anxieties pretending to be thought, pretending to be engaging with literature. don't be like this hole, anons.
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>>24864110
Yeah but 19 yo are ripe af THOUGH fambalam
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>>24864282
Very based analysis of this clown
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>humbert is a heckin unreliable narrator!!!111
OK proof with examples cited from the text?
>*crickets*


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