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Yo senpai, just finished Doki Doki Literature Club and damn… that shit hit different. Anyone else get totally messed up by it or am I just soft? Like, I was vibin’ with the cute anime girl stuff and then boom, reality check. Thoughts?
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>>24889958
I hate DDLC
I went into it only knowing that it was a VN with a twist so I didn't really know what to expect.
And out of all the girls, I of course chose to bond with Sayori. I quit playing after that scene and haven't touched that shitty game since.
It's a bad, dumb game.
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>>24891298
>bonds with a vn character
You played yourself.
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>>24891075
Length has nothing to do with plot similarity.
>be teenager boy
>get to a new town
>there is an orange haired girl in that town which is your childhood friend
>she introduces you to a school club of exactly 4 girls who spend the afterclass doing stuff in a classroom
>the 4 girls are characterized as: orange haired childhood friend, dark haired girl who is shy, loli who is a tsundere, and the leader of the club who is the most mature girl with long hair in a big ponytail
>first hours are slice-of-life of these characters talking and knowing each other
>after some hours the game turns dark and all the characters become crazy and start dying, giving shock value
>meta-characters
>the story resets and most of the plot changes... in Higurashi, because in DDLC only some dialogues change and nothing else
Wow! So original!
The only creative thing in DDLC is Monika becoming evil because it's the only one non-dateable, and that's it.

They made it shorter so it could become viral through youtubers. Also, people now lacks the attention to read a VN as long as The Bible.

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>>24891299
You're right and I can't really defend it except to say that her personality could have been grown in a lab it fit my type so perfectly and when her depression starts showing through I took the bait - hook, line, and sinker thinking "I can fix her". How wrong I was.
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>>24891316
Stop stealing quotes from your college roommate faggola

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The optimal nature of a society is one in which the woman is a full-time worker while the man is the stay-at-home philosopher-husband. Nietzsche speaks to this.
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>>24888354
Consider this: Plato brought contemplation and deep thought to his fellow man. But deep contemplation into our own existance is frought with futility and insignificance that can only lead to sorrow. Yet a single onlyfan's girl will bring immediate joy to thousands and very little contemplation. Is not her labours as worthy?
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>>24891523
Nta but you assume all joy is equal. Besides, some immediate pleasures can be destructive in the long run.
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>>24889774
>contrarian
Because I disagree with YOU? Stupid retard. People were losing their jobs for years. Excluded from society. Stuck at home. About 90% of them kept quiet and took vaccines they didn’t even want in order to maintain whatever hell of a life they were living in. Covid was a trial and humanity failed. Also, all of this is in response to you claiming that AI will take their jobs away to begin with. Stupid nigger.
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>>24891553
>About 90% of them kept quiet and took vaccines they didn’t even want in order to maintain whatever hell of a life they were living in
oh, so you actually are that stupid. okay. have fun with that
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>>24889399
>woman gets education
>woman works as a doctor for a few years
>woman gets married and retires to have children
>decades of educational resources, created by men, wasted

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Many of you have trouble getting published even though you have faith and confidence in your own work. As a first timer and a literally nobody you will be competing against an infinite amount of similar fellers. It's the same as trying to get laid as an incel. You're fucked.

Theres one way to approach this problem which I want to bring forth. You must be /somebody/ first. It is fairly easy to become a somebody these days. Depending on how much soul you are ready to sacrifice for your self you can become a viral somebody by doing retarded shit for very little effort. You can also go and lie to amplify who you are supposed to be. Works both with chicks and getting a book contract. They need to have a vague idea of who you are and what you are going to do to entertain your presence.

It also helps a lot if you get to know someone in the industry who can pitch you to their local publisher.

Say, you are the fucker who that one time drunk drove into a family of five and now you want to get your fiction of gay whales published. The publishers will eat. out. your. hand. In no time you will have a contract in front of you, with expected sales in the thousands. They will take care of the marketing, you just need to be there and fix up that script.

In a lesser, more realistic, perhaps, scenario, you can be an active hobbyist in some specific field, fucking miniatures I don't care. Some pick-thick-wrist chud who has been in the local papers once before, have been interviewed for who gives a fuck -reason can be percieved as a imaginary talent by some publisher who knows none the better, but is given a script as thick as the cunts head.

Tl;dr a script and a pretty face gets you no-where. You need a lore. Luckily it can be rather cost free.
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>>24891561
Safety, always off

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Tips on reading the Organon and actually understanding it? should I read any of the ancient commentators alongside it? Tell me how to tackle the prior analytics, etc. I am a beautiful boy ready to be initiated into the lower mysteries.
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I don’t have a computer and it’s too much to phonepost. But yeah - the attribute is the third kind you mention. You don’t demonstrate definitions, and the difference is part of the definition. Why is man rational? Because it’s what he is, we learn this by experience, there is no “explanation” strictly speaking, a thing’s “what” grounds explanations, it’s not explainable in itself. Also, definitions only *signify* (semainei) the whatness. It’s not as if, if there were aliens on the moon, they’d be men just because man’s spec diff is “rational”! That’s another important point that filters people. Reading book 2 on its own without book 1 and at least a cursory understanding of Prior A may not work desu. Demonstration explains why an attribute inheres in a subject. The “conclusion” is this inherence, and the middle is the reason why. Teleological demonstrations are an exception, there the explanation is the major extreme. I think you’ll figure it out fine if you autistically read these books over and over again, but if you don’t do this you won’t. These translations “demonstration”, “conclusion” are shit as you can maybe see. Aristotle doesn’t prove theses, he takes a given phenomenon and tries to understand why it is as it is - he was a scientist, the first real scientist and the first really scientific philosopher. I agree with Hegel that his psychological theology in De An is the peak of his thought. Hegel also says he’s genuinely speculative - why? His theory of demonstration led him away from dead abstractions, he wants to understand and he understands the world as living, concrete. He doesn’t dissect life he goes into it and penetrates it, deeply, forcefully, lovingly. It would be more appropriate really to say that he was penetrated by life.
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bump
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I'm surprised there isn't a visual guide or video to the syllogisms yet, especially not one based on the medieval mnemonics
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>>24885158
>You're making it more complicated than it has to be honestly.

There are other cases in which the visualization was more useful. In this case it can be easily thought verbally.

>The middle term itself is necessarily a contingent accident

That's the thing I'm questioning. "Admissible" shouldn't be equivalent to "contingent", because necessary implies admissible, and contingent implies admissible, but admissible can imply either necessary or contingent. Aristotle always assumes that "admissible" means "contingent", and that necessary implying admissible it's only due to homonymy and can be disregarded. From book 1, chapter 13:

>In the next place let us speak A Bout the contingent, when, and how, and through what propositions there will be a syllogism. But I call to be contingent, and the contingent, that which not being necessary, if it is admitted to exist, there will on this account be nothing impossible. For the necessary is said to be contingent homonymously.

I picked a random translation from the internet, but it says the same as the edition I used to read the work. This has consequences for many syllogisms because that contingency connotation implies that the contradictory statement can also be true.

For example:


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>>24891572
he always understands*

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The pessimistic worldview is more philosophically coherent than the normie cope everyone peddles but it gets memory-holed because society literally cannot function if people accept it. The structural "life is good" narrative isn't more true, it's just more necessary for the machine to keep running. Think about it, who gets the time and mental space to actually contemplate existence? Not the wagecuck grinding 60 hours a week to afford rent, not the single mom juggling three jobs, not anyone trapped in survival mode. The system deliberately keeps people too busy, too distracted, too desperate to sit with the fundamental question of whether this whole project is even worth it. The few who do break through (philosophers, monks, NEETs with enough breathing room) keep arriving at the same dark conclusion but their ideas get filtered out because admitting "maybe we shouldn't keep this going" would collapse the entire social contract overnight. Schools don't teach Schopenhauer or Cioran alongside Disney movies for a reason. The powers that be need you believing in Progress™ and Meaning™ because the alternative is everyone collectively realizing we're just a cosmic mistake out of biological inertia and social pressure. The truth is structurally unpopular because it's structurally incompatible with civilization itself. You can't run an economy on "actually, non-being is preferable to being" so the real redpill stays esoteric, locked behind paywalls of leisure and education, while the masses get fed hopium by every institution that depends on their continued participation in the charade.
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>>24890354
I often wonder how he would have responded to Nietzsche and Heidegger.
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>>24890393
Saying pessimists are wrong because the world is too complex to judge is just a dressed-up admission that you have no counterargument, and the claim that reflection is inferior to unexamined experience is the oldest anti-philosophical cliché in the book.
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>SHITlosophy
Shit's for midwits, Dragon Ball is better
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Goku could beat Schopenhauerian Will
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>>24891441
In a thread started by a fagcartes about shit Schope already addressed littered with garbage like
>muh middle management bruh
>no stacks no bitches tate tate frfrfrfr
>muh muh Ize coasting bruh
>muh w-w-worldview heh can't refute pessimism
There is one anon who is thinking.

Iirc Heidegger sided with Nietzsche and also offered a criticism that Schope was forever stuck in a form of metaphysics that was obsolete. Schope/Nietzsche threads usually devolve into cope and seethe fests. Schope/Heidegger could provide something interesting, Schope is a philosopher who doesn't really go away and there is enough non-Nietzsche related art material between the 2 of them to keep it away from cope and seethe.

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The universality and the objective framework of logic is taken as normative, even though traditional formal logic developed in Europe. This destabilises and devalues other epistemologies, such as African epistemic frameworks. Black people, prior to European colonisation and subjugation, had no concept of logic in the traditional European sense, obviously. Black ways of knowing came from systems which were relational, communal, and spiritual. By European standards, these ways of knowing would be considered irrational because the very concept of rationality is steeped in the European ideal of a civilised white male. African men were viewed by white colonisers as uncivilised, therefore irrational, which contributed to the genocide of their epistemology. The de-legitimisation of black ways of knowing and black epistemological frameworks contributes also to the perceived problems African refugees cause to white Europeans. If African men are separated from the whiteness of logic and reason, which many African refugees are, then it poses a problem for the systemic white supremacy embedded in European structures of power like politics and the judiciary system.
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>>24881155
Yeah, a lot of us gave this a chance like 30 years ago and it was a disaster. We are still recovering from wiggerfication.
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>>24881125
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>>24891558
There's literally no difference between this and zoomers coming to 4chan to wail about millennials
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>>24881125
I would wager its rejection is the root of intersectionality. An entire philosophy build and died on the hill that David Hume and Arthur Schopenhauer built. That being said, why ought the virile European man act the same way? If the ignorance of "systems, bylaws, and property" is the root of intersectional thought, and the outpacing of reproductive success by them outpaces that of Europeans, why fix whats broken? One can state that sexual assault is an "African mentality" but has the opposite really helped us in those matters?

Is technically legal to write fictional biographies of living or dead people?
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>>24891444
That's 10 years jail time.
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>>24891444
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>>24891455
This image only shows that Googling the question won't give good answers and only reddit. What was your point? Justifying OPs thread?
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You would have to get consent from a living subject.

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Why isn't Charles Dickens ever discussed here? I see he's missing from the top 100 charts as well.
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>>24889651
As opposed to suiting YOUR ridiculously low iq idea of quality? Dickens wasn't great even for his time. He successfully defrauded his way to literary fame by appealing to 19th century sensibilities. Now today a sect of hopelessly stupid anti-intellectual midwits won't let him go out of vogue, because then they'll have to acknowledge that literature can be so much more, and they don't have the intelligence for that.
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>>24890487
Holy shit you're so cringe lol. You don't sound smart like you so desperately want to. You sound like a poser which is ironically in keeping with your shilling for dickens.
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Looks like some jeets have logged in
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>>24889651
I feel like trying to blame it on IQ or attention span is low effort bait. Look at Jane Austen who wrote in even more archaic prose than Dickens. Yes if anyone today were to read Sense and Sensibility they might have to reread passages to understand how vocabulary and sentence structure was back in the day, however, every paragraph is mostly stripped to the bare essentials, with only a little fat for humor and wit. She is a much more pleasant read than Dickens who can be all over the place at times
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>>24889593

Love Dickens - multiple lovely novels, top prose, good jokes. I like the big rambling books like Bleak House and the tighter adventures like Two Cities, and a Christmas Carol is just pure pleasure. Why doesn't /mu/ have a daily specialist Scarlatti thread? Who cares, enjoy the music

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Is the solution to existential dread just getting laid?
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>>24890511
*irredeemable trash
Sorry I should really proof read my posts
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>>24888517
It's about the bad guy from the Justice League movie.
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>>24888152
Finally, the alternative to getting laid: drowning in a lake.
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le based centrist Hesse
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>>24887844
worst book i've read in years.

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ye olde: >>24879637

Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs).
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
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>>24890644
Simp supreme getting cucked by the socipath is hot. Fionavar had a rape scene but that didn't really do it for me.
>>24890968
The most soulful epigraph. "For death above you hovers", absolute kino.
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>Tolkien bored me to death for the thousandth time
>Children of Dunc also is kinda dragging now
Do I switch to Moredick? Never tried reading him before.
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>>24891193
More likely it's a negro.
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>>24891532
Yep
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>>24890892
>yurikino
Picked the kick up!

Why read a series with over 4.000 pages when the author clearly isnt finishing it in his lifetime?
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>>24888028
Because he will die in my lifetime and someone else will finish it
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>>24888028
I don't read unfinished series BECAUSE of asoiaf.
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>>24889771
>leave some extra space
>book ends up being too big to fit in it.
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>>24888028
Why read absolute fucking trash seems like the more pressing question.
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>>24888028
>be me
>open it
>prologue is: zombies
>close it

did i do good?

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is 4chan the savior of literary culture?
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>>24877118
>>24877908
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiisiJu_fE8
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>>24878230
Hmmm how about no?
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>>24891338
This is AI. There's no way.
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>>24877194
>>24886802
>the latest version of the list
the latest version is almost strictly worse
it's shameful how they've shoehorned in garbage like Kate Chopin's Awakening in a desperate attempt to include more women
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>>24877113
Where's Bakker?

You're now a student at Hogwarts. What do you do?
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>>24882966
Twelve year old Harry and Draco knew the spells Tarentallegra, which binds your legs together, and Rictusempra, which tickles you breathless. Not only that, but Hermione also managed to get the ingredients and recipe to make a polyjuice potion.
Sixth years are able to brew a Draught of Living Death, which causes a deep magical sleep that can't be interrupted. (Hermione also figured out how to do it in her second year too) Petrificus Totalus has a seemingly indefinite duration to it, only being ended by a Finite spell, or death of the wizard who cast it. (also power of love, but have fun trying to plan that one out.)

And if all that wasn't enough, in Half Blood Prince, Draco actually forces his friends to take polyjuice to spy on Harry disguised as an 11 year old girl.

Raping and imprisoning is surprisingly easy in the Wizarding World. Voldemort was a rape baby from a witch mother, and a muggle whom she drugged with love potion. Because of this, He was born without any capacity to feel love.
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Does hogwarts have special ed classes?
Can wizards be retarded?
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>>24882539
I'm dedicating the entirety of my existence to being a slytherin, improving my work in the shadows until I eventually come into the world to do what Voldemort couldn't
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>>24891469
>can wizards be retarded?
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>>24882539
aoh.
there is now female threads on /lit/?
i didn't know...

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>>24891317
Read this in county jail. It was ok for killing some time but would not recommend to anyone who did not have limited access to literature. The MC was pretty bland.
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>>24891327
Grimnoir Chronicles was better anyway.

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>>24891345
Is absolute garbage.
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>>24891497
NA
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>>24889537
You're just assuming things because you can't argue the point.
Why would I lie about not liking LotR? I don't care for genre fiction in the first place, and I like its movie adaptations even less. None of that stops me from evaluating the two.
You do understand that you can make hierarchical judgments without being a "fan", right? Critics do it constantly. You keep collapsing evaluation into fandom because you don't have an actual counterargument to the claim that literature generally produces stronger works than their film adaptations.
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>>24881924
Lies. It’s on everyone’s top movies of the 2020s list
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>>24891454
I don't trust anything Cameron post-Titanic. The first movie being "hurr durr, military bad but natives good" is just the icing.


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