Historically Christianity has condemned those who commit suicide as grave sinners. The Catholic and Orthodox church refused to bury or say prayers for suicides up until very recently and even now they rarely do. Due to the Augustinian logic in particular it is felt that suicide is murder and because there is no oppurtunity to repent the person dies in a state of mortal sin. Along with this because the person dies without repent they have blasphemed the Holy Spirit meaning there sin is unforgivable and therefore they must go to Hell according to the logic.Christians, how do you defend this?
>>24892122Defend not only the lack of empathy for suicides but to hold them up as the worst of the worst by saying they are pretty much the only people guaranteed to go to Hell. A child rapist has a better shot at eternal life than a suicide in the Christian framework
>>24892125>get raped by pedo priest>kill yourself from the trauma>go to hell while he goes to heaven because he repented
>>24892129So grateful I left this ugly jewish death cult behind
>>24892125It's, as you stated, more so by the nature of the suicide rather than any weight it has. You can't repent for it so you immediatly go to hell.It's also important to state that life is a gift by God no matter how shitty it is and that God's clock will decide when you have to stop suffering and go. Hell is the abscence of God it's not a punishment but a choice you make out of taking God out of your life and living in a godless lifestyle. When you deny God's gift and spit on Him for it you are basically denying Him as a whole out of your life and he will be respectful enough to let you go into an afterlife where he won't be there to interfere
>>24892134>it's not a punishment but a choicemodern cope
Qrd on why she causes so much seethe?
>>24890756>at least American libertarians have a bit of powerNo, they don't. Some conservatives like to adopt libertarian aesthetics, but libertarians themselves are a meme that nobody takes seriously.
>>24890924It's a good story, people get butt mad because it strawmans much gommunism (which I get) but if you look past that it's a good reas
>>24890700Conservative think tanks treat her work like gospel, so I guess people see her as one of the reasons they have to work shitty jobs and pay stupidly high rents. I don't like Rand for her ideas, but I do think she is a very interesting study in the type of trauma the USSR inflicted on normal folks. She was preaching the same kind of hyper-individualism that would come to dominate Russia in the 90s. She was kind of prophetic in that way.Sad story all around.
Test.
>>24890700She pisses off the left by perfectly revealing their game and evil.She pisses off the right be eschewing religion and muh traditions.And she pisses off losers because she calls them out and gives non losers to antidote to them.
>idea sounds incredible and innovative in my head>I write>read it and realize it’s the most stupid thing ever writtenDoes this happen to anyone else?
>>24891743Only problem I see is the overuse of the word "life".
>>24891734>idea sounds incredible in my head>i write>it's just some medieval trope I forgot about
>>24891734YesI have never written a complete piece of fiction because it becomes more retarded the more I write.
>>24891990Heh, I know that feel
>>24891734Write it anyways.Maybe there are still good ideas connected to it or you will discover actually good ideas along the way.
any good /lit/ taking in place in London? I will be there for a week starting from saturday, what to not forget about when it comes to /lit/ activities there other than Dickens museum? Bonus points for modern-time London in novels or short stories
>>24890933That's probably the most common /lit/ location after New York
George Gissing>>24891102Machen set a decent amount in London too
>>24890933Sherlock Holmes. I think there is a tourist spot for him
>>24890933You're in for a big surprise if you still believe London now resembles anything like Dicken's London, champ. Good luck.
>>24890933visit samuel johnson's house and look up naughty words in his dictionary
Fat Gurm, "saying our goodbyes" editionASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_PageBlog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdyGeneral search: http://searcherr.work/TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chaptersold: >>24867465
>>24891150I’m convinced nature is alive in this world. Do enough sacrifices and it will answer back. The animals probably don’t piss it off as much.
>>24891551> lovecraftian gods are not pokemonLol.
>>24891042The best possible marriage would be with Margaery Tyrell, if only their mother wasn't a suspect in Renly's death and hadn't taken in the even more suspicious Brienne of Tarth. A Stark-Tyrell alliance would be capable of conquering the Iron Throne, instead of merely trying to keep Robb's kingdom independent.
>>24891840>Google it>it's realI have read these books but I suppose I memory-holed that section like it was some kind of traumatic event in my life.
>>24891664Notice how there's 0% dedicated to writing. Very realistic.
ye olde: >>24879637Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs).https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>24891418That's flirting to you?
>>24891670How do I read this? Do the colors mean different books or are they different arcs or something? My dad read the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, kinda sad to not see the Merlin Saga series on here but maybe that's too unpopular.
>>24887953I believe what ever Martin writes will in the end redeem him. Even if its just Winds and no Spring, it'll be so much more satisfying in the eyes of true fans
>>24891858Why would a fictional world have identical plants at all?
what are some good fantasy/scifi books that were not written in english
I changed my mind. Where to start with Dellilo?
I read White Noise, Libra and Mao II in a row and I enjoyed the first two quite a bit but by the time I got to Mao II I just felt like it was the same rehashed things again.maybe just too much of him at once but all his characters seem to always speak and act in the same strange ways. planning on reading Underworld soon but have been wanting to try to finish some shorter books before I spend several months chugging through that one
He's a lesser Pynchon, read the original instead.
>>24889672doesn’t exist
>>24889906Boomers were obsessed with cuckoldry, you’ll be hard pressed to find a post-war American novel that doesn’t have cuckoldry in one way or another.
>>24891094That's not really fair. His only Pynchon-adjacent work is Ratner's Star.
The optimal nature of a society is one in which the woman is a full-time worker while the man is the stay-at-home philosopher-husband. Nietzsche speaks to this.
>>24888354This is the true danger of feminization. Women do not experience wonder. Their creative influence, or lack thereof, brings spiritual sterilization upon society.
>>24889731>There would have to be a genetic engineering miracle for this to happen as the average woman would rather be single (or die) than support a man financially.Unless it's their son. Philosopher king son-husbands with mommy-wives!
>>24888354That reminded me of a excerpt by Borges I read a while ago, picrel. I'm not essentialist in this regard, starting from the fact that I once had a fruitful about metaphysics with a woman, so I think it's a tendency and not a radical essence, but it's generally true given that disclaimer.
>>24888354>they have literally zero desire to be Napoleon OR Plato. They don't want to be great or remembered, and they don't care about clawing their way into the secrets of the universethis nigga still on the wheel of samsara lmao
>>24889399>and of course you have had more women thinkers as soon you opened the doors to universities for themStopped wasting my time right about here.
The pessimistic worldview is more philosophically coherent than the normie cope everyone peddles but it gets memory-holed because society literally cannot function if people accept it. The structural "life is good" narrative isn't more true, it's just more necessary for the machine to keep running. Think about it, who gets the time and mental space to actually contemplate existence? Not the wagecuck grinding 60 hours a week to afford rent, not the single mom juggling three jobs, not anyone trapped in survival mode. The system deliberately keeps people too busy, too distracted, too desperate to sit with the fundamental question of whether this whole project is even worth it. The few who do break through (philosophers, monks, NEETs with enough breathing room) keep arriving at the same dark conclusion but their ideas get filtered out because admitting "maybe we shouldn't keep this going" would collapse the entire social contract overnight. Schools don't teach Schopenhauer or Cioran alongside Disney movies for a reason. The powers that be need you believing in Progress™ and Meaning™ because the alternative is everyone collectively realizing we're just a cosmic mistake out of biological inertia and social pressure. The truth is structurally unpopular because it's structurally incompatible with civilization itself. You can't run an economy on "actually, non-being is preferable to being" so the real redpill stays esoteric, locked behind paywalls of leisure and education, while the masses get fed hopium by every institution that depends on their continued participation in the charade.
>>24890456>coherent philosophy than SchopenhauerPlotinus, Aristotle.
>>24891699Life. Philosophy works with representations. It's by definition second to presence itself.
>>24891420No idea what I'm supposed to make of this desu but no, pessimism isn't incompatible with a working society any more than optimism is. It's just a question of degree.
If you really believe in pessimism and think non-existence is better than existence, then why haven't you killed yourself? Give me a real answer.
>>24892060Because my instincts born out of billions of years of evolutionary pressure conflict with my logical mind.
I hate her face so much
but /lit/ will tell you peter thiel is the most antichrist looking creature of today
>>24892081I just realized the antichrist doesn't have to be a man. It could be a woman.
Do beautiful people make for better writers? Like even Bukowski, who considered himself to be ugly, had symmetrical handsome facial features, just had some acne scars.Pic related is Mieko Kawakami, famous japanese writer - according to Murakami the best japanese writer of today.
>>24890113you people really dust something? i thought it was just some old people stuff like ironing. Who cares about dust?
>>24892058>frognigger lives in filthNot surprising.
Katie Kitamura, 46Imagine having her teach you creative writing
>>24891963Interesting.
>>24890173Just be masculine.
I'm enjoying the book; is there anything similar in terms of writing style or story dynamics? I want something like it.
Don Quixote maybe.
>>24891787Thank you. No one recommends books in the literature board of 4chan; it is as if no one actually reads here. I have heard that Confederacy of Dunces is an American Don Quixote.
>>24891714Catch 22
>>24891787>>24891872I'd recommend both of these.
Yo senpai, just finished Doki Doki Literature Club and damn… that shit hit different. Anyone else get totally messed up by it or am I just soft? Like, I was vibin’ with the cute anime girl stuff and then boom, reality check. Thoughts?
>>24891298>bonds with a vn characterYou played yourself.
>>24891075Length has nothing to do with plot similarity.>be teenager boy>get to a new town>there is an orange haired girl in that town which is your childhood friend>she introduces you to a school club of exactly 4 girls who spend the afterclass doing stuff in a classroom>the 4 girls are characterized as: orange haired childhood friend, dark haired girl who is shy, loli who is a tsundere, and the leader of the club who is the most mature girl with long hair in a big ponytail>first hours are slice-of-life of these characters talking and knowing each other>after some hours the game turns dark and all the characters become crazy and start dying, giving shock value>meta-characters>the story resets and most of the plot changes... in Higurashi, because in DDLC only some dialogues change and nothing elseWow! So original!The only creative thing in DDLC is Monika becoming evil because it's the only one non-dateable, and that's it.They made it shorter so it could become viral through youtubers. Also, people now lacks the attention to read a VN as long as The Bible.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24891299You're right and I can't really defend it except to say that her personality could have been grown in a lab it fit my type so perfectly and when her depression starts showing through I took the bait - hook, line, and sinker thinking "I can fix her". How wrong I was.
>>24891316Stop stealing quotes from your college roommate faggola
>>24891587Schizophrenic
You're now a student at Hogwarts. What do you do?
>>24882785>Tell me you didn't read the books without not telling me you didn't read the booksPeople who use reddit phrases like this need to be executed
I bet you if you decided to fake a study based on this thread and posted it on reddit you'd get a lot of updoots and gold n shit>fuck>fuck sluts>fuck Luna>ctrl+f4>rape 13 resultsxD>loli harem>accio pantiesYou could be rich, but will it be worth it Anon?Will it?
>>24882972Literally the entire appeal of Harry Potter among losers is based on this psychological trick.
>>24891477>do what Voldemort couldn'tGetting rid of AIsloppers?>>24891469Yes, look at Hagrid.
>>24891469Magic is tied to intelligence but it also isn't tied to intelligence if we are going off the books. Hermoine is good at magic because all she does is study, you could say she is high IQ and she might be, but she might also just be way more interested in the subject of magic and reading than other's are.Ron is always posed as the "dumb one" but there are multiple times where he is shown to actually be pretty creative and generating resolutions that Hermoine then steals as her idea. Ron isn't book smart at all but he also pulls off his fair share of impressive or interesting magic that Hermoine couldn't because she lacks that spontaneous, outside of the box thinking that Ron has.So I would assume that there are some Wizards and WItches that lean way more on the innate magic where they are dumb as rocks but because they are just so genetically attuned to magic they can just will shit to happen without much help or practice, while are more inclined to read and study and thus also have the same or better level of casting due to reading and practicing. I'm sure there are those who get the short end of the stick and aren't smart or that magically attuned but have to go to Hogwarts anyway like Hagrid.
Is the solution to existential dread just getting laid?
>>24889728What is it
>>24891960>Some 100 generations down the line, I am as much related to your descendants as you are. Does that make you a cuck?First of all not true, and 100 generations is a very long time. That matters.
>>24891960That is only true in the purely autosomal sense. In terms of allelle frequency, you can retain very high levels of genetic similarity with your descendants over countless generations, particularly if you don't outbreed with a member of a genetically distant ethnicity.
>>24890662as was the style at the time
one day all your descendants will dieyou can kick the can down the road but you can't change the inherent impermanence of life
