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for reading Kant?

I don't think I really care much for either Descartes nor Hume nor many of the others who fall within this. Spinoza I might be open to reading just out of curiosity. he seems pretty important I think to the kantian enterprise. who else? I've already read Plato and Aristotle. will be reading Augustine soon, and about Aquinas (I don't care very much for aristotelian style philosohy beyond what Aristotle himself wrote). I feel Kant can be into'd with nothing more than relevant secondary literature and a sharp mind.
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>>24855454
all you need is a sharp mind
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bumpp
when mt life if sturem and the asngels ask me to recall the thirll of them all,
ooo,
i should tell them i remember you oh oh you oh you. youuu
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>>24855454
Just don't.
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>>24855454
You either kan or you kan't.

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This is the only genre that makes money and the money train isn't stopping any time soon. Short of a puritanical John Carpenter style government, there will always be demand for this shit.

The question is, can a dude write successful girlporn? This is the literary question.
I'm going to read this milking farm thing and see if I can't get a knack for how women write. I'm suspecting it's a bit like this:

>Minimal attention to details and the world, emphasis on personal impressions and feelings; the world as a set of things that make you feel different ways.
>Braindead, 12-15 year old brain simplicity.
Imagine a Middle School girl trying to "speed download" social gossip updates to a friend.
>Vanity, ego, zero accountability, petty delusions, cliches.
This will require a bit of research and marketing savvy just to collect up what today's cliches are. Fortunately, women are dead simple and just go on TikTok/Twitter and see what buzzwords come up a lot.
>Sultry language.
This one's tough. From what I understand explicit, gross language is what sells this shit and is the female equivalent of visually seeing porn. On the other hand, I have a feeling that I could write porn that is vastly more detailed and explicit than what women read and would alienate them. I have a feeling it's just stuff like, "sweaty" "bulge" "heaving" "cock!" "pulsing". Words that sound distinctly naughty but remain vague. It's not about visualizing, even through text, sexual mechanics. It's about breaking social taboos so women feel "naughty" and liberated from their neurotic sexual restraints.
>Female attraction
This is tough. How far do you go with "big muscles, ripped body"? How much do women want to read that, and when is it too much? Women like being dominated but they like to feel it was their choice to be dominated. As a man who understands women very well, I don't want to tap into their sexual triggers too accurately because that might lead to a sense of "revealing too much" about female sexuality which women don't like. They like most of it to remain implicit and simple.


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>>24855610
> I hold myself to a higher standard.
Never said you shouldn't.

>Why wouldn't you?
It's just when I find something I am doing disgusting I just basically stop doing that. And if I don't like some people, their practices or communities I prefer to just dissociate myself from them, rather than remain in a company that revolts me.
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>>24855618
You don't know if my words are performative. That's the fault of your cynicism.
>>24855621
Here I remain, on a safe-for-work board on a site that coincidentally hosts pornography. This is not the folly that you think it is.
>>24855634
But I'm not doing anything that I find disgusting. My "hypocrisy" is that I was curious about the book that was posted here and looked it up online, where I saw that line in one of the reviews. I did not read the book, if that's what you mean. And if you mean that I should avoid anything that is even peripherally related to what I find disgusting, then you are telling me to become a Buddha, which is impossible.
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>>24855644
>And if you mean that I should avoid anything that is even peripherally related to what I find disgusting
I mean, not opening 4chan is hardly a form of pathological avoidance and ascetic seclusion.
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>>24855644
>Here I remain, on a safe-for-work board
Every single Ayn Rand thread posted in the recent years had a copypasta concerning Ayn Rand's alleged unquenchable desire for being violently raped and a graphic description of such a hypothetical event posted in it.
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>>24855644
>You don't know if my words are performative.
i know it because far more sexually explicit and fetishistic posts are made even on this board every day and you don't do these goofy theatrics about them. notice how you still haven't explained why "wow that's a big penis" is supposed to be more disgusting than actual hardcore pornography, because you don't actually believe that, because you were being hyperbolic for show

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After seeing the catfights go on over the past year, I decided to read the book for myself. Joe Sachs translation. Fantastic book. The autist in me loved Metaphysics Delta in particular. But I felt like I left with more questions than answers.

I feel like the topic that Aristotle dealt with goes beyond what it means for something to be universal or particular, and it seems like Aristotle thought that essence is a form that is neither universal nor particular. But Aristotle made it clear that boilerplate Platonism does not logically work, although Sachs makes an effort in his footnotes to point out that something like Platonism can still be salvaged.

I also don't know how we can think of the active intellect aka the unmoved mover as the pure being-at-work of thinking with its object being itself. How can it be akin to wakefulness or meaningfully compared with anything we call thinking when our own wakefulness relies on a capacity or a power to be moved, something that the unmoved mover does not have? It seems like such an austere concept that we might as well treat it as the thinnest, brute fact aspect of being that we were looking for all along.

Idk. Thoughts?
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>>24855475
The immaterial substances are separated intelligences, not paradigms for composites. There are no such separable paradigms in Aristotle, for fuck’s sake. He says so right here >>24855473 and in 40 or 50 other places.
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>>24855473
>>24855529
They don't exist, but they are. That's the problem and it links back to the essence-existence distinction, which is really a much deeper question about ontology. You can't say that it isn't, because it is. So what is it? And if it doesn't exist, it still has being that isn't tied to any particular being and can be distinguished from other beings.

>>24855468
These are probably much better critiques of why forms can't exist on the basis of self-predication. The only other one that is good imho is Aristotle's method in the beginning of Categories for sorting out what is the ultimate substrate. Everything else is question-begging or simply not creative enough to imagine an Aristotelian system where it somehow works.
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>>24855565
I’ve been explaining this throughout the thread but check out Meta 13.10. No one is denying that intelligibility is “real” but investigating how it’s related to the composite. You’re just throwing up your hands desu. I’m not repeating the entire conversation for you but consider also De Anima 3.4:

“Thought is itself thinkable in exactly the same way its objects are. For in the case of objects which involve no matter, what thinks and what is thought are identical. In the case of those which contain matter each of the objects of thought is *only potentially present*” - ie the material thing is potentially thinkable, its thinkability is not constitutive of it itself - “It follows that while they will not have thought in them (for thought is a potentiality of them *only insofar as they are capable of being disengaged from matter*) thought may yet be thinkable.” Again, thought is not identical with the material substance because thinking is immaterial, it’s always mediated, universal. We can grasp the intelligibility of things which is their truth and in a way their being; but the concrete this just is what it is, not a composite of intelligible something and matter, but of form and matter, and, as he also says in meta 1 and post an 1, the individual is not knowable as such.
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>>24855599
I never had any hands in the fight. I just wanted some better answers to what it means to predicate and why self-predicate is a bad answer lol. "It is what it is" tends to be an easy cop-out, so it's good to know how to refute it.

Anyway, my copy of PostAn comes in the mail soon. I was wondering if you have any thoughts on >>24854858 before I head out and start reading.
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>>24855565
>>24855485
How obvious the failure of self-predication is always seemed to me to indicate it can't possibly have been what Plato was actually putting forward and I have assumed it's what characters in the dialogues occasionally say either because Plato knew it was some common naïve view of people who haven't really thought about forms or there was a contemporary school or group within the Academy who believed it.

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I need some recs for "Misogynistic", anti-women, anti-feminist, etc. FICTION, but non fiction can also pass. Novels and novellas that explore female behaviour and the extent of their evil and stupidity and critique them
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>>24855226
I hate that video so much.
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>>24855226
Women need to go back to dressing for the "male gaze".

To answer your question, the enlightened one does not seek out "misogynist" literature, one simply rejects all literature that does not put women in their place.
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>>24855498
>>24855505
>>24855516
KEK this is so BASED put me in the r/4chan screencap fellow BASED PEDES.
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>>24855258
Damn
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>>24855226
This AGAIN?
Go back to /r9k/ or go check your buzzwords on warosu, fuckface.

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Do conservative intellectuals exist?
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They haven't existed in America since at least the 1970s, and even then it was the jaded new York trots who became Straussian neocons. There most certainly remains a tradition of intelligent conservative thought in Continental Europe and among the most elderly British, but they haven't had any meaningful influence over discourse or culture since, again, like the 70s-90s. As someone who's studied the intellectual history of the right for awhile now, I can tell you that the honest truth is that the modern right is actually just too stupid to read what they should be reading. Their victory over the past two to three decades has very little to do with actual ideology, theory, or intellectual rigor. Actual traditional conservative thought is at this point, very long extinct; the great irony is that one will find that tradition much more immediately apparent in the work of Walter Benjamin, Adorno, Marcuse, and Habermas than the supposed "conservatives" of our own time lmao.
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>>24851539
People with anime girl pfps on social media apps have posted more intellectually engaging content than anything concocted out of the left in the past 300 years.
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>>24855406
not conservative as such. I said ur-conservative and I meant it.

We recognize and honor past peaks. We don't outmode anything ever. We are trad-minded as board in that sense, not in the moral or spiritual or religious sense.
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>>24855400
>I just want a balanced discussion
>i think X
>if you do not think X you are a Y-ist cope
Some balance. This is black-white binary as fuck.

You simplify your (mis-)characterization of your ideological opponents, and then just forcibly conclude based on that strawman.

And then, when called out, you claim to want balance, as if non-arguments, oversimplification and speedrun conclusions contribute to a considerate view.

>NO U PROJECTUNG
Oh shut up. Don't even go to /leftypol. Just stay out entirely.
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>>24855588
Based.

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I've gotten about half a dozen short stories and about a dozen poems published under my own name. Mostly in small venues, and only one ever paid me serious money. I've tried to get published at some of the big dog places like the New Yorker and the Paris Review, but no dice. This despite one of my poems actually being nominated for a Pushcart Prize a few years ago.

I have a major work I've been working on in installments for five years now, and there doesn't seem to be anyone who wants to take a chance on publishing the first book, so my plan is to put it up on a website I'm having built tailor-made for it, sections at a time, releasing it serially. Fortunately I have a decent social media presence which should hopefully help me slowly build an audience, if people think the story is good.

None of the big dogs seem to want to take a chance on me so I'm going to try to get my stuff out into the world myself.
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>>24855288
I am pondering using my wife to publish my poems, then some day start publishing under my own name out of the blue.
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>>24854444
checked
it's impossible to make a living with anything today, you can exclusively make a living by grifting in its respective field of competence
if you want to be a writer, you have to grift your way into writing
if you want to be a musician, you have to grift your way into music
that's it. you have to be a massive whore and a fraud and an exploitative opportunistic piece of shit first, and then whatever you want to do
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>>24854383
why is OP pic so hot
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>>24855556
the high-test male yearns to deflower virgins
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I am 27 I only got published in one quite small thing so far is it over for me

How do you respond without sounding mad?
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>>24855598
I agree with him and proceed to add that language has been gerrymandered into little fiefdoms consisting of experts who deliberately use obscure language to keep you confused not unlike various philosophers. Positivists, however, are alright in my book.

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Can chapters with mostly dialogue work?
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>>24854138
What if there's a chapter that mostly exists to throw some light into the antagonists' motivations and seeing them react to a significant event of two chapters prior?
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>>24854105
no, people don’t talk that much, you’d break verisimilitude
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>>24854105
Read JR by Gaddis
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>>24854105
What I used to by mostly description, I started accomplishing with dialogue more often. It beaks it up, it shifts gears. There's something "happening".
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>>24854105
Whole books with just monologue work, why wouldnt one chapter of mostly dialogue?

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I'm 60 pages in, when does it get good? So far it's a book about a woman being a woman. Please tell me it changes, I hate women.
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>>24853432
Once you get to the part about the crimes though that particular section can get a little repetitive.
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>>24854426
>The prose, maybe, but what's the intrigue? I don't see what's intriguing by a group of 4 academic friends glazing a german author until he's soggy.
You're not curious about the identity of Archimboldi?
There's also the mystery surrounding the part about the crimes, which comes later.
Honestly, the crescendo of horniness and cucking exploding into violence at the cab driver in the Critics was masterful IMO. Some people just hate that chapter though.
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>>24853494
>commie
Ahh so its a waste of time.
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>>24853540
I read till Fate and have started Crimes 3 times now, but stopped 40 pages in. Critics was a masterpiece for me, Amalfitano was very great, Fate was great but slightly less (except the ending, which was very intriguing). I see many people love Archimboldi (to be expected), but what would you say about the crimes, I read somewhere that it's purposefully tedious.
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Read this book years ago and loved it
took me quite a long time to finish tho

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>What is /wng/ - Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSNZali-jIk2MASsAWVf8N7A8BlSyzPbAFV_BhsA5Ip3SWfMPWKxaXf8Pdb7f0TgFyWis31BzirtPeR/pubhtml


>Advice for Noobs!

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>>24854759
>starting a book with "The"
oof
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>>24855573
So?
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>>24855609
It's often used when the book wants to set up a passive description as its introduction, instantly deflating the reader's expectation for any surprise the author have prepared on the first paragraph.
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>could have
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>starting a book with "Fang Yuan"
Incredibly based

What does /lit/ generally think of books written by anons/namefags? Do they shill their own work here, and how are they received? Assuming the work is freely available.
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>>24855034
If it's not for you, move on, why do you guys keep pining after something you clearly have no interest in. I've already made the book's expectations clear, it's up to you if you want to meet them.
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>>24855045
you suck at marketing!!!
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>>24855222
I even got trips for saying it
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>>24855222
I've tried marketing to /lit/ for the last 5 months and got barely nothing. The conclusion, very few people are interested in this sort of thing. And its funny when anons themselves find out they are not interested but out of some sense of stubbornness, can't admit it. Being interested requires work. I don't understand why this is so difficult for you guys. You don't just read one scene or two chapters and decide you understand the book then go online and call it whatever you like.
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>>24855249
I never claimed to understand the book. I certainly do not. My only claim is that it's uninteresting.

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What book should I ask for for my birthday?
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>>24853407
What books do you like to read?
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Phenomenology of Spirit
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The gifters favorite book :)
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>>24854202
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>>24854263
Is this cute or gay?

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Which AI do you use, /lit/?
>inb4 *scoff* "HURR DURR I DON'T USE..."
Shut up, faggot. Yes you do. Stop lying. Just answer the fucking question.
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I use Gemini at work because it is impossible for me not to.

I don't use any of them for personal projects.
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I use it mostly as something to bounce thoughts against because nobody I know irl is autistic enough to want to discuss such subject matters.

Other than that I use it as a calorie calculator (which it is often surprisingly retarded at)
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claude is just so obviously superior than the other ones its not funny
free mode is basically using retard mode though for all of them
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>>24854555
>Shut up, faggot. Yes you do. Stop lying.
zozzle the gall of this midwit
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>>24854555
I use local models to ERP with. F-list friends in SHAMBLES.

Is it worth it except for the pictures?
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>>24851426
Do you prefer this one?
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>>24852534
English Empire was afraid of the consolidation of economic power in central Europe (unification of Germany and it's influence on the area)
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>>24848252
I saw a set in a used bookstore for $90. It was a little beat up so I didn't get it and I regret it.
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>>24848208
Pseud
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again i mentioned this earlier why the fuck do people read his active imagination notebooks instead of just doing active imagination that's what you are supposed to do
>>24855330
correct

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Most overrated book of all time.
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>>24854069
You're right about it being overrated, but you also got it totally wrong
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When they left the cantina ten minutes later the streets were deserted. They had scalped the entire body of the dead, sliding about in a floor that had been packed clay and was now a wine-colored mud. There were twenty-eight Mexicans inside the tavern and eight more in the street including the five the expriest had shot. They mounted up. Grimley sat slumped sideways against the mud wall of the building. He did not look up. He was holding his pistol in his lap and looking off down the street and they turned and rode out along the north side of the plaza and disappeared.

...


It was thirty minutes before anyone appeared in the street. They spoke in whispers. As they approached the cantina one of the men from inside appeared in the doorway like a bloody apparition. He had been scalped and the blood was all run down into his eyes and he was holding shut a huge hole in his chest where a pink froth breathed in and out. One of the citizens laid a hand on his shoulder.

A donde vas? he said.
A casa, said the man.
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>>24854264
>cites examples from the text to support the theme
>U got it wrong! It's about God cause judge is white!

Stay in the YA and manga sections, please.
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>>24854404
It's not about that either
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>>24854401
The last line is so funny to me if you read it as he’s grumpily going home after being shot and scalped


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