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https://youtu.be/CFLqS1Hu1nY

Who was in the wrong here?
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>>24696138
>video link
No thanks. /tv/ is that way.

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Skip one of these and you turn out a complete retard.
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>>24695609
>t. total anti-intellectuals
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>>24695038
This is my trivium in three books guide.
>Grammar
Chicago Guide to Grammar, Usage, and Punctuation
>Logic
The Book of Proof
>Rhetoric
Paradise Lost
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>>24696103
The grammar in the Trivium is Latin and Greek.
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>>24696129
The grammar is for whatever language you're speaking or writing.
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>>24696163
Which grammar is? For the Trivium the grammar is Latin and Greek. I looked up your book and it's about English. Also grammar in the past was more of a philosophical subject, with stuff like what you see in picrel.

That's from this book: https://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watt

Here's another old book:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summa_Grammatica

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Yet Another Xianxia Edition

Stubbed >>24691477

>What is Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>Advice for Noobs!

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>>24696011
Mike Hammer with a broadsword.
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>>24696095
Princess of the Void should probably be first on your list, a successful newer series in the niche you're targeting.
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>>24696096
>Yes, i want to read about some dude that sits on the back and watches others fight for +1million words
It really isn't as entertaining as you make it up to be, a 100% support role like that doesn't really work well as a protagonist, his own POV is literally the most boring one and the most passive when action happens in this case
Im willing to bet that you haven't read/liked a story like you just described either
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>>24695957
>sci fi harem erotica mostly but not totally aimed at men
Don't target men at all.
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>>24695697
Cartesian, my good fellow, not descartian. No shame, The Poet's Tongue is a nightmarish labyrinth of exceptions and special cases, and many born to it speak it not as well as you do already despite your cultural handicap.

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Post your charts and guides with recommendations and reading order, all cores welcome.
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>>24694185
Is there a guide to Emil Durkheim?
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>>24695430
Read the NRSVUE
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>>24695954
>brothers and sisters
Woke shit.
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>>24695277
Lacanian real or Baudrillardian real?
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>>24695430
New Oxford Annotated Study Bible is your best all-around option. Translation's fine, plenty of material. You can more or less pick whatever "reading guide" you want, it doesn't super matter. There's a few that will take you through the Bible chronologically. If you're a translation stickler (you shouldn't be, I promise you it matters less than you think, but whatever) just get the NIV and the KJV. And by "get" I mean find them online, there's a trillion Christcuck websites dedicated to hosting Bible translations.

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What's your favorite erotic literature?
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>>24693295
I've got church records from my ancestors going back 300 years and most of them had been recorded doing two things:
>making booze illegally
>fornication
And those were obviously just the ones who were caught doing. This is a history of 300 years of my own ancestors who were FUCKING out of wedlock (and making moonshine I guess?) with enough frequency and transparency for the whole congregation to know about it lol
I can't provide those records to you at this time just trust me bro
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>>24693433
Evidence about your particular bloodline is anecdotal at best (your ancestors might have been more promiscuous than normal or have lived in an unusually "lax" part of the world) and of a sample size that isn't nearly large enough to draw any conclusion about the population at large.
If anything, it being a big enough deal to have it in the church records is more indicative of how out of the accepted ordinary it was compared to now, where premarital/extramarital sex happens pretty much in the open to the point where everyone who can have it does, and everyone who doesn't is automatically assumed to want it and not being able to have it.

Again, I'm not doubting that it happened, but to believe that it happened more than today, I need information about the population at large.
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>>24693295
"hookup culture" is the same small population of sex addicts musical chair fucking each other with an occasional rebound tourist thrown in. Things are 100% more sexually sterile now than in the past
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>>24695234
It's the opposite.
Virgins and non-sex-havers are tge small bubble you're part of as a 4chan user (even if you have sex), so it seems more normal to be celibate than it would to a normie.

>than in the past
In the recent past, sure.
Before modern times? No.
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>>24696150
It’s actually not
Even for most normies it’s a desert out there. Often even for attractive women.

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>"Read Nietzsche’s Zarathustra, and his sister’s note about how he wrote it, and am absolutely convinced that he was completely mad when he wrote it, and mad not in a metaphorical sense, but in the straightforward and most exact sense: incoherence, jumping from one idea to another, comparisons with no indication of what is being compared, beginnings of ideas with no endings, leaping from one idea to another for contrast or consonance, and all against the background of the pointe of his madness, his idée fixe, that by denying all the higher principles of human life and thought, he is proving his own superhuman genius. What will society be like if such a madman, and an evil madman, is acknowledged as a teacher?”

He's right you know...
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>>24695382
This, they can only ad hom him
>What is this writing?! He is mad, mad I tell you!
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>>24695382
What truths did he reveal?
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>>24695967
His madness was pressaged from the first. The hubris in his gaze, his tone ever paroxistic. It crested and crested and he finally broke. Broke down in tears, hugged the horse, straitjacket for the rest of his life.
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>>24696018
>hugged the horse
Never happened
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>>24693213
He was mad with poetic inspiration. I'm amazed how Nietzsche could make such a long chain of metaphors one after the other from beginning to end. To me he was a poet-philosopher, rather than just a philosopher.

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G.K. Chesterton somehow knew a /lit/ard

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Resources to begin your trad journey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qP7CnCtkoc

Post all you got

Jordan Peterson gives the big fifteen

>Here is a list of books that I found particularly influential in my intellectual development.

>Trigger warning: These are the most terrifying books I have encountered.


>1. Brave New World – Aldous Huxley


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>sci-fi and polysci slop top three
You need to go back.
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lol this is some high quality bait

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Where do I start with Hindu mythology, /lit/bros?
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>>24692577
You are not very eurodite. There was a process of greco-isation of roman myth, but they were not the same earlier on.
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>>24694848
>eurodite
I keked. Of course the two were different at one point but all surviving sources of myths are told in a Hellenic framework. Most differences were ritual distinctions from ancient Italic rites
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>>24690752
I'm reading the Mahabharata now and Bhishima is an incredibly admirable guy.
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>>24695207
Yukio Bhishima
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>>24695207
which part are you at now?

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It's heartbreaking to realize how much of Perennialism is a scam (built on dishonest foundations at least) which hinges on and exploits people's good natured dreams of pacifism and unity and a love for life. The grand majority of its main figures have bathed in dubious decisionmaking and questionable motivations that point to a more egotistical, materialist project than what typically draws curious people in, and the current's seeming support by TPTB doesn't give it a very good look.
>Schuon tried to start his own tax-free cult in the US and failed. Supposedly was a freemason, but may have failed at that as well. Was not really all that well read nor did he really understand the tenets of sufism to make the kind of claims he did give
>Guénon was another failed freemason who was just fleeing from a western esoteric circle that was not accepting his questionable work. Went to Egypt because he could dupe the Arabs into thinking he was seeking initiation when he just wanted a cozy hideout. Was suddenly revived and astroturfed by co-opted alt currents to steer dissatisfied young men away from action into a world of pseudo-spiritual jargon. A lot of his claims about Sufism and the Vedas are plain wrong.
>Seyyed Hossein Nasr failed at starting his own cult in the US, but at least managed to secure a prestigious position in western academia so he can both hide away from an iranian society that would steamroll him and have a steady stream of bs he could pedal around to uneducated western thinkers, because he had the rare credibility of being able to understand original batini texts and could keep going by introducing and reintroducing key figures (suhrawardi etc). Twisting their words so he could fit them into a hazy system.
>There is never any backlash or signs of the greater zeitgeist discouraging you from looking into any of this, which solidifies its status as ultimately harmless and therefore not so truthful. To the contrary, it is widely supported by UN related agencies, governments (more specifically those guys) under the pretense of peaceful interreligious dialogue.
>The cultist, individualist, delusional stench of theosophy in general
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I don't care about any of that
I mean you could point out how Guenon was more interested in Hinduism but as Hinduism wouldn't allow himself to be initiated he settled for Sufism
My problem is that I just don't understand why anybody should care about Perennialism as a movement which promotes the idea that all religious traditions stem from the same root and yet for some reason the goal is not to synthesis and reconstruct this original root but rather to dedicate yourself to one religious tradition, preferably by initiation?
It just doesn't make sense
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I find it funny that people will write paragraphs criticing men like Schuon or Nasr, but all they can muster about Guénon PBUH is
>uhh he left... yeah...
>he's wrong btw
You do not understand a single thing he said, if you even read anything by him, and yet you have the audacity to come here and ramble about how he is wrong?
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>>24695691
So then explain why I'm me and not someone else, and why certain people are born as certain people. Explain why other people in other cultures weren't born into the "right" religion in a way that doesn't involve a birth lottery.
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This is a midwit thread if I've ever seen one. The gist of what all of you are saying is
>I'm too much of an effeminate bitch to Be Real, so instead I'm going to hide in all this make believe word salad ''mysticism'' with some extra tear flavored perfume
That's what this is all about, because if you had actually lived as Men, and fulfilled your roles as Men, you would realize the truest and most credible tool for weighing the truth would come from internalizing your interactions with the world after you have strived to achieve a state of balance and purity on all levels, including your dreaded biological and sociological ones. If you're not even trying to ground yourself in the same parameters that the initiates of these traditions you talk about have lived in, that is providing, protecting, toiling, raising...etc, then you're not in a position to make claims about grand Truth, especially not in a universal one that is touching every single person that has ever lived. By living and engaging with the world, you will come to know why certain traditions are inherently more civilized than others, and why certain civilized traditions have a stronger basis in this shared collective reality than purely intellectual/creative exercises. You are the skewed, mutant gene that seems to believe there is some grand wisdom behind a talking gray parrot when every other man that has lived over the past 50000 years would treat it as novelty and move onto the real shit, because you continue to choose to operate in a foggy context that shrouds and buries universal truth, letting you delude yourself into thinking it's all about the smaller details, when they're just pieces of the apparatus. There is no ''fellow man'', everybody already wants to kill you and rape your wife and take your money ; but don't because of the looming threat of punishment. The lawful religions have figured all of this out. You just choose to be a petulant child and justify it with the intellect that you developed due to the coddling luxury you've taken for granted.
>>24695368
>Jung
Reheated already established mystical and alchemical concepts developed by slothful castes with new ''scientific'' lingo because his pride just can't bend the knee
>Nietzsche
Man throws a hissy fit because he can't get his shit together. Surely this world must be so terribly wrong!
So insightful, wow.
And then there's this retard >>24695450
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>>24696098
Everybody has already made their choice and signed the pact once they reached puberty. It's all on you. There is a great transformative power within each human being, but 99% of them lack the necessary Love for the infinite to make the right choice and get a move on, because being the way you are is just so nice.

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Probably has an old King James Bible lying around. Maybe a book on Pearl Harbor. Any other ideas?
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Da 48 Laws of Power
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Sun txu the chinese prince machibelli
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>>24695958
If he’s an Italian Catholic then it’s douay-Rheims translation.
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>>24696052
No irl Catholic reads that anymore , it’s an internet meme and solely popular with extreme autists who think a proper Catholic English Bible MUST be based on a Latin translation of the Bible
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>>24696023
it's this

Go here:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Random/File

Fill a /lit/-sized textbox (3,000 characters) with writing inpired by the image you get.
Attach the image to your post; if your textbox has room, include the Wikimedia link.

>I don’t like my image.
Then re-roll (there are quite a few duds), or write from another anon’s image.

Please give feedback to others doing this exercise, which is as much about versatility as creativity.
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>>24693140
>I just don't know how to narrow it down from 'your writing is so good how do you do it'.
On a much less rambly note, definitively narrwoing this down for yourself is a good place to start, and for me there was no better vehicle than critiqueing.
Simply articulating what you enjoy IS criticism, and it helps you as much as it helps the critique-ee—the former figures out what they like; the latter figures out what they’re doing right.
But you have it in you to point out mistakes as well:
This kinda incorporates what I wrote above about “formidable subjects,” but if you read and re-read a piece enough (even a piece you think is magnificent or unimpeachable), you will eventually come to notice some sort of inoptimalization, however small—be it a typo, or an awkward use of punctuation, or simply a wrong word you know is wrong—and that’s your starting point, that’s your first sturdy foothold up the mountain of offering “this-could-be-better” advice.
My last post was much more of a challenge to write than one because I have answered a (much more metaphorical) version of this before on critiquing:
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24231006#p24264352
^ I only include it because of I’m really proud of this line—
>Of course, come on too strong and risk snapping what ought to nourished; hold back and risk the work's dying of thirst.
Try to channel being a watering can when it comes to dealing with the fruits of others’ minds :)
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bump4moar
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>>24673719
I'd like to say while this thread is still with us, that I've greatly admired what you've managed with this writing cue.
If you don't mind, I care to study it some,--it's wonderful. This is an example of compelling writing,--that's all I know.
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>>24689789
My dear markup-anon,

I'm really grateful. This will serve to be quite constructive for me. You're treatment of the poem is so handsome(!) and was seemingly done much more attentively.
Any flourishes and inspiration you detected in what I wrote came from me having Edgar Allan Poe in mind (in that it's macabre),--and it's mostly due to the fact that I just got finished reading Eugene Onegin.
I'm not naturally inclined to poetry,--it will be a long time before I can really get a bearing I think.

Thank you kindly!
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>>24678980
If you look closely at your opening sentence, you’ll notice that there are two different verb tenses attached to the same moment:
>I am…by late afternoon…which is when the Fat Colonel did go up.
I wrote this sentence below to more clearly illustrate the clash I mean:
—I arrive home by 5:55 PM (on the dot), which is when the mailperson arrived.—
Just pick between all past- or all present-tenses.
>I am all but suppressing a sneeze in the itchy sunlight by late afternoon
Re-order, emphasizing the length of time, also swap the “the” to a “this” (it makes the POV more personal and immediate):
“By late afternoon, I am all but suprressing a sneeze in this itchy sunlight.”
>as he spits and puff puffs
“puff-puffs”
I am not taking this hyphenation cue from Wiktionary (which does list “puff-puff,” but as a noun) but from a book published 101 years ago that uses the verb “puff-puff-puffed”—“Children of the Lighthouse” page 94, by Nora Archibald Smith, 1924.
>into the mic
“into his mic”
It’s a tiny change, but it goes to reinforce/tee-up just how possesive (the MC perceives) the military is with his sibling—who could be named Mike for all I know!

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>Actually, it just so happens that all my favorite writers were secretly homoerotic gnostics
Has any critic projected their diseased mind more than H. Bloom?
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>>24694334
It does seem though like a lot of prominent people are gnostic
Carl Jung was supposedly kind of a gnostic
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>>24696077
Again, you grossly overestimate your ability to affect others, Mr. “Public Service.” Quit the LARP.
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>>24696081
He is basically admitting to being a prostitute
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>>24696102
Why can't you answer a simple question? Why do you instead obsess with the physicality of a dead old jew? You continually speak of his body, and now even bring up this sexual connotation. It's sick. Stop it. Get some help.
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>>24696093
I don't know why you're so annoyed. Yes, you will say you are not annoyed, but the fact remains that you are insulting me. Why the insults? No justifiable reason yet found.

Sorcery, Wizardry, Witchcraft, Psionics, and General Magic and Powers Edition

FAQ:
>What is worldbuilding?
Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.
>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"
Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.
>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"
If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.
>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"
Yes, of course you can!
>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"
Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.

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>>24693826
Good for you I guess.
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>>24694071
I mean, if you don't want your readers to constantly nitpick your choices, there has to be SOME kind of internally consistent logic to magic.
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>want to write werewolf themed novel
>something about literally me meeting big amazon wolf gf
>he gets introduced to their pack of more big wolf women
>of course they fight over me
>help them fight off vampires, damn i'm good
>realise i have no writing talent and just want to look at furry art
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>>24696003
Sure, but you don't have to make it a measurable science. Mysterious magic is also as viable as mechanics. Don't get me wrong I also enjoy systemized magic, and usually its the mix of both that hits that sweet spot of a good magic system.
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>>24696113
I hate that furfags ruined werewolves and other "human with animal head" characters.

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Can an 110 IQ write a great novel? Is an unremarkable intellect capable of literary greatness?
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>>24695812
Why don’t you just write it and find out?
If everyone said yes would you do it or are you just looking for an excuse to not even try?
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>>24695820
Mine is 107 but only because the math part is mental retardation level so it brought the rest of it down quite a lot.
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>>24695817
screenwriting require stronger visuospatial IQ tho, You've to actually imagine the scene to details and apply cinematic tact based on the right settings.
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>>24695812
If novel is really your measure of things then even an 70iq can do it
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IQ doesn't matter.
IQ is effectively a measure of your ability to solve logic games.
I have a measured IQ of 131 and I'm a fucking NEET that can't drive a car or hold a job because I sperg out.


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