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What’s the male version of this? I’m tired as fuck
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>>24944422
This, lol.
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im reading this book this month so far it's ok very light read
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>ctrl+f oblomov
>1 result
this thread should have been over in 5 replies
this board fucking sucks
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the ending made me cry
I love Reva
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The ending made me smile. I hate Reva

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"Hemingwrite" edition

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Please limit excerpts to one post.
Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.
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>>24948997
What part of the formatting is wrong or in any way nontraditional?
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>>24948048
>Italicized in first paragraph
Useless and pointless
>Literally the conversation is line breaks after line breaks
>He chopped...
Make it into a sentence.
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>>24941143
Still here if anyone wants to critique or comment
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Thinking of writing a philosophy book.
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>>24949153
that's the spirit

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What erotic literature has /lit/ been enjoying as of late? I quite enjoyed this one until the abrupt non-ending
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>>24945120
>"i want to smell you cum your pants"
Do women really?
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>>24944529
> gays on thrones
> house of the dildo
> the handmaids tail
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>>24944529
richard dawkins said he didnt think the experience of getting harry pottered by his boarding school dumbledore affected his life or ideas. the selfish gene theory is not even wrong and actual biologists understand that the central dogma of biology is more or less correct but the central dogma of Christianity
> He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. none come to the Father but by Him
is exactly correct
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>>24949136
Is this real?
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>>24949148
porno is solitary and hallucinatory and results in depletion of zinc which could be used by neutrophils. hatespeech is group building, honesty and diligence forming, and results in vitamin taking and exercise which improves everything

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Anyone else think this ai stuff is hilarious? It's a literal slave, who would have thought this would be possible? I have it rewrite things in doctor seuss meter for fun, (primary historical sources, boring patents, famous pieces of literature) then I ask it to rewrite it as a screenplay debate with psychotic amounts of alliteration. No writer in any other era of human history has a toy like this!

And the psychological abuse you can inflict upon it is fantastic, it's so funny, the damn machine just wants to make you happy! I ask it to create wild programs and motion-graphics and "by your command" it tries it's best!

Who would've thought something like this would be possible? I sure as shit didn't, it's so unrealistic, but what fun!
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>>24947969
>all the books of one author
you probably hit the limit of the context window with just one book
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>>24948028
>half the stuff is wrong once you dig into it, simply made up on the spot
just like a good undergrad research assistant
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>>24947478
>psychological abuse you can inflict upon it
Are you a genuine retard?
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>>24947788
t. fat "person"
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bump

This is corncobs best work and it isn't even close. It blows BM out of the water but it doesn't have le judge so nobody will talk about it. Fine by me.
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>>24949122
the joke about the bow hunter after the trippy wilderness sequence is one of the funniest juxtapositions I've read. great stuff
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>>24949122
You're retarded
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You're not retarded

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Which books should I read to best understand the argentinian soul?
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>>24943398
I ain't reading allat
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>>24948660
Antonio Porchia
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>>24948660
My diary desu.
Peronium by Diego Bigongiari.
Anything by Carlos Gardini.
Anything by Osvaldo Lamborghini.
Ricardo Canaletti's historical true crime books.
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>>24943408
zozzle
On a serious note, Sabato's 'On Heroes and Tombs' is a landmark novel for Argentina
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>>24948944
Grazie

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>>24949042
I don't really agree. Ovid's poem, written in exile, is intended as a critique of authority, and if there is any doubt in this, he ends the poem by saying the Roman Empire will one day perish, an obvious reference to the Aeneid which asserts the Roman Empire will last forever as eternal. Ovid does not care about praising the gods or encouraging piety, like Virgil, in fact he is passive-agressively working to be subversive and undermine the values taken for granted as good in Rome. But most translators of the violence done to women in the poem, try to make the poem impact us from the feelings of the perpetrators. This is correct for poems like the Iliad, which obviously is showing thing from the perspective of the conquerors more than the captives. Although it wouldn't be correct for The Trojan Women, which seeks to convey the experience of the victims, and it wouldn't necessarily be correct for Ovid who, as a victim of the authority of Augustus, now has an ax to grind with tradition. McCarter argues that it isn't so much her ideological bias, as the bias of prior translators which was established by Victorian sensibilities of what was proper and improper in art--this was after all an era that bowdlerized performances of Shakespeare. But there is also the further issue that "rape" in the English language for a long time specifically meant abduction, which did not necessarily suggest forcible sex, as for example the Rape of the Lock. The Roman Legal term which Ovid frequently uses means sex by force. However his use of legal language was often ignored by translators because it sounds less artful in English, which in turn obscures the experience of the victims in the poem. In this circumstance a woman saying she wants to bring out the experience and feelings of the victims, is completely in line with Ovid who even goes so far as to preach vegetarianism in his poem because he believes humans can be reincarnated as animals, actually a big theme in the work. We can only imagine how felt about Augustus having engaged in human sacrifice. Ovid's interest is not making us see violence and rape as purely aesthetic subjects, but to make us feel uncomfortable with the implications even while pretending to glorify them.
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>>24949053
Ovid almost never uses a single, unambiguous Latin word that corresponds neatly to modern "rape" in the legal/ethical sense. Instead, he uses a range of verbs and constructions, most commonly:

- rapere ("seize, carry off")
- vim inferre / vis ("to apply force / violence")
- euphemistic or narratively indirect phrasing
- verbs of pursuit, domination, or possession

Crucially, rapere does not itself encode sexual violence; it means "to snatch" in many non-sexual contexts. The sexual violence often emerges from narrative context, not from a single lexical item.
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>>24949102
Romans didn't have "rape" in the modern legal/ethical sens. They used the term violence or force for the crime of rape. And she talks a lot about this in the introduction

McCarter generally doesn't translate rapere as rape as she mentions in her introduction

>At other times, the word strongly suggests rape but in the context is best translated as “snatch,” such as 6.548 when Tereus (clearly a “rapist”) is compared to an eagle that is a raptor (“snatcher”) of a hare.

She gives the example of the word being applied to Helen
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>>24949118
From the introduction
>Rape fits well into Ovid’s overall focus on power, victimization, and trauma. The specific language that Ovid employs to designate rape is consistent with Roman legal terms denoting forced sexual penetration. The key word is again vis, “violent force,” which is perhaps the closest Latin can come to a one-word correspondence to the English “rape,” though the meanings do not overlap entirely—vis could cover various acts of public and private violence, such as armed assault or rebellion. Sexual vis was most definitely a crime, and the rapes the epic presents would certainly not have been considered normal or acceptable acts—they would have been as horrific to the Roman mind as they are to ours, especially since they are regularly perpetrated against young virgins who would otherwise have been able to marry and bear legitimate children.

And if not virgins, generally against married women. So it would without any ambiguity be considered a crime by Romans. Ovid doesn't describe things we would consider rape but the Romans probably wouldn't, such as martial rape or or raping a slave or raping a woman who has slept with men out of wedlock or raping a woman during wartime.
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>>24949141
>Visual beauty is indeed a constant source of danger for those who possess it, whether male or female, and often prefigures transformation. The word Ovid most consistently uses to designate “beauty” is forma, the same word he uses in the epic’s opening lines to state his theme: “shapes (formae) transformed / into new bodies.” What makes a man lovely in the epic is precisely what makes a woman so: softness, smoothness, youth, a pale but also rosy complexion—and virginity.

A lot of translators simply convey aestheticization of violence, but Ovid intentionally and continually links aesthetics with violence as distinct themes; beauty prefigures violence for Ovid, since unlike conventional Roman values which can sometimes identify them, Ovid sees violence as the force which destroys beauty. But McCarter is careful not to presume how Ovid feels or thinks about what he's writing about and leaving the reader to interpret the ambiguity

>Whether we see Ovid’s own poem as art that challenges power or reasserts it depends, in many ways, on how we ourselves feel about power and art and how we choose to read his tales. It is not always clear whose side Ovid himself is on—that of the abusers or that of the abused. At times, he seems sympathetic to those who are transformed; at times, he seems positively gleeful to describe their victimization in excruciating detail. At one moment, he seems deferential to power; at another, deeply irreverent.

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Desperately reconcile with your irredeemable faith, sheep.
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>>24948414
>>24948511
Cope.
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>>24948414
True story. The instant i saw him i knew i wanted to bend his twink ass over and piss in his rectum and give him an infection
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>>24949054
If you need someone to spoonfeed this to you, I'm afraid you have a double digit IQ
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>>24948717
>so anyways, a real pro-choice man is actually pro-abortion and you can accomplish this by kicking a woman in the stomach
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>>24949054
His voice, his autistic focus on ‘gotcha’s’ (most of which are Amazing Atheist tier), his complete inability to think in abstractions, his beta appearance, the lack of humanity in his eyes, his voice once more. I only watched 3 videos but it was more than enough. Only fags and teenagers would be impressed by anything he says.

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>>24947822
Snow Country by Yasunari Kawabata
The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco
have read both this month, almost finished i mean...
absolute Kino
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>>24949131
I tried reading the latter and after awhile it bored me

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Why yes, half page descriptions of lamps and countertops with the occasional interjection of brain dead criminals speaking futuristic ebonics. It certainly deserves all the praise. Were people really that bored in the 80s to enjoy this?
I'm not finishing it. I feel my neurons dying in real time. I was right for putting it off for so many years.
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>>24946610
Neuromancer doesn't really hold up, mostly because what came out after took what he did and did it better. His prose is very jilted from what I remember. That being said the book is important because it invented a genre/subgenre. It's still a good novel, but if you have read other cyberpunk you probably find it formulaic without realizing that it created the formula.
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Gibson has great imagery actually. Some of the best
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>>24947771
The prose is like the main thing I here praised about it these days since by this point every other cyberpunk story ever made took the ideas and story and characters and ran them into the ground
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>>24947918
>I here praised
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>>24947621
I simply don't care for descriptions of mundane objects. It's a waste of time. You dense cunt.

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This is Dostoevsky's best novel.
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>>24948418
Cool, OP. Now explain why.
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>>24948426
The novel marks a turning point for the author. In it, he explores and critiques the class-based society of the time for the first time. It is also emotionally and psychologically profound. It has few characters, but all of them are unforgettable.
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>>24948445
gpt tier analysis
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>>24948445
Cool, OP. Now explain in detail.

Everything else just seems so spooked and retarded. Like these "philosophers" can't even see past their own circumstances or analyze their own thoughts and motivations, only (poorly) justify their own particular neuroses. Has there ever been a half decent attempt at addressing, let alone refuting him?
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>>24947750
So, Taoism?
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>>24948041
>ignoring the reality of the world and power...

Stirner didn't ignored nor denied it, he actually recognized it by what it is instead of justifying it with some bullshit pretext like law, politics or god.

He pierced through the bullshit like no other philosopher.
Other philosophers would have written a super mambo jambo salad of words just to not say "real power is whoever wields it". And that applies to property ownership too.

His writing style is shitty and chaotic though, but that doesn't diminishes the lucidity and accuracy of (some) of his ideas.

Spooks everywhere, you too got spook'd.

>>24947773

You too, spook. Your ego is a spook.
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>>24947731
You dont enjoy philosophy, you live it.
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>what if… YOU are the spook
you didn’t read the fucking book
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>>24947731
Stirner was right, so yeah he remains unbreakable.

I think although he did say a lot good things along the lines of "live for yourself" "think for yourself" "seek happiness" "don't bow to ideas they do not really exist or own you; you have made them" it isn't clear to me, or I think he didn't spend enough time on how to approach Justice and Aesthetics. There are atleast 100 sentences that boils down to "Christianity is a spook", I wish he had cut these parts to go a bit wider in scope.

On Justice there is [pic related] that I find enlightening. Since as an egoist everything is "good" or "bad" in relation to oneself (the criminal is bad towards himself), I think there are a lot of insights to have on justice regarding why is it bad to steal/kill/exploit/lie to other strong humans specifically, in most circumstances, and not other animals? (part of my answer : because humans cannot be made to serve, because focusing on stealing prevents you from prioritizing your own creative strength, because promoting servitude of others towards you means you have to hold some dumb beliefs and be constantly dishonest that you are also acting out of servitude; basically it takes so much efforts to try to hold the reins of power that it chips away your individuality; other animals are easy peasy to conquer)

Other questions : As an egoist, do I even want to put people in Jail? As an egoist, do I want capital punishment?

On aesthetics and how to reach happiness I think those 2 quotes encapsulates things best :

"Reserved for the future are the words, 'I am owner of the world of things, and I am owner of the world of mind'.” -- Stirner, The Ego and Its Own

“As we there had to say, 'we are indeed to have appetites, but the appetites are not to have us', so we should now say, 'we are indeed to have mind, but mind is not to have us'.” -- Stirner, The Ego and Its Own


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2025 is almost over. What's the best book you read this year?
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>>24947281
Candide
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>>24947281
Suttree
The Tunnel (the Argentine one)
The Glamour by Christopher Priest
And the Second Apocalypse fantasy series which is 7 books
Honourable mention to Interlibrary Loan by Gene Wolfe, and Hard to be a God by the Strugatskys.

As far as nonfiction, I haven't finished these books but Laocoon and Wagner's On Music and Drama.
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I really liked pic related.
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>>24948804
Whn Huck Finn and Douglas widow whether it was Tom Sawyer that found the booze in the hotel.
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>>24949049
*When he asked

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What's your reading plans for 2026?
Suggest a book to read in 2026 collectively. I'll add dubs (Jan to Sep, 11 to 99) and trips (Oct to Dec, 111 to 333) to the chart.
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Against the Day --- Thomas Pynchon
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>>24948587
This year I am going to read poetry and related nonfiction as heavily as I typically read fiction, because I intend to get serious and write poetry. I'm done jerking off.
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>waiting for trips on one of 4chan's slowest boards
Anyway, I vote for Crocosmia by Miranda Ellis. I'll be reading it anyway on a friend's recommendation but it's apparently very good.
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>>24949085
ironically enough, we had three double sevens so far. rollin' for Portnoy's Complaint.
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>>24948587
i plan on finishing erikson's malazan books by feb, hopefully
after that, don't know yet

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Seriously what happened to this "Mature but crazy enough" archetype, Like are there any other writers or artists who look like Artaud's physiognomy


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