Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
>>24955066>There's just no way outStopped reading.
watched these bcc docs todayGreat Poets in Their Own Words - 1. Making It New 1908-1955https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezL8UVx_eG8Great Poets in Their Own Words - 2. Access All Areas 1955-1982https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCwcRZ0FjQReturn to TS Eliotlandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGrk3L16HjYReturn to Larkinlandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBmFCBXh7Rg
>>24955136Dope, thank you.I do prefer articles if you know of anything similar in that form :)
>>24955125Why?
>>24955158'Just' sounds peurile, the caesura is cumbersome and ungrammatical, and the line flows horribly from the last. Besides, this is poetry. Is the best way you could think of to describe feeling trapped or hedged in that there's 'no way out'?
>>24947268I would but I can't decide what model size I want since I read books of various sizes and a lot of academic booksI'd get one of the l;arger ones like a 10 or 11 inch ones but that seems obvious as fuck I'm not actually doing my job and while a 7" one can pass as a phone and not be cared about, it's too small imo for most of the larger books
hate that there's none of these shits in that are cheap, bw only, and good for annotating books
sirs i would like to have more storage on my kobo libra 2 but im not sure how
>>24947268speaking of e-readers, if I connect my kindle to the internet, will amazon strip all my covers? I have about 600 books on my kindle and I do not want to have to manually reload them.
>>24954567delete the books you don't want anymore. If you have Calibre, you don't need the books on your ereader.
>>24955025Yes, you have a glossed primer.
>>24955128It's just one I pulled up
>>24955133The guy with the ablative was really giving you too much credit if you're now arguing >>24955025 shoulders per the primer you pulled up.
>>24955143Loeb for Latin students and the textbook for Latins students are supposed to be considered less authoritative than a samefag on a Zhao graven image congress?The entire point is that the passage verse can be validly interpreted either way. Dismissing academics writing specifically for Latin students at this point makes it moot, because who else is there to appeal to? Especially when it's just a question of if the passage can be interpreted ambiguously versus a definitive and inarguable interpretation. Are these academics "trolling" you, predicting you would see their interpretation and they made it clearly wrong just to irk you? I do not contest the interpretation of neck hairs, I have simply provided extensive evidence that it can reasonably be interpreted otherwise and has by academics, not merely academics writing verse but those writing prose intended purely as a supplement to students learning the Latin
>>24955159Yes, we know you don't understand Latin. You trying to argue that academics interpret the line differently in all your cited primers for students has not made you equivalently not wrong. It has not taught you Latin either, so it's arguable these texts are in fact great hindrances to learning the basics.
How did Hector survive nine years of the Trojan war with Diomedes and Achilles there?
>>24955135>By staying within walled TroyThe walls were made of timber, as per Homer, and they actually broke during the siege. Trojans explicitly have to repulse invasions by sending men out to plug the gaps.
>>24955145when does homer say they’re built of wood?
>>24955145Are you sure you aren't mixing up the wall the Greeks build to protect their ships? That definitely gets damaged and the Greeks have to defend it precariously, but I don't recall that being the case with the Trojans.
>>24955135>just so the Spartan king's marriage can be saved.That is what true bros do for each other. Also, the fact that Agamemnon hated his wife and wanted to be as far away from her as possible.
>>24955162They weren't being bros about it, all the Greek kings wanted Helen, which was why Menelaus and Agamemnon, as powerful kings, demanded that the other Greeks defend his marriage if anyone stole her away from Menelaus. As it turns out, it ended up being a non-Greek that absconded with her.
At least /tv/ watches tv. At least /fa/ wears clothes. At least /v/ plays games.But you all? None of you read. Fuck you.
>>24955005Yeah Mr. Skeletal. You're right.
They let Auschwitz prisoners read poetry?
>>24955005>At least /v/ plays games.lmao
>>24955005>At least /tv/ watches tvNo they don't. They label everything as woke from the trailers and parrot culture war YouTubers talking pointsMake a thread about a movie and you will be called a shill
>>24955005Is the Fifth Edition the best edition for the Norton Anthology?
What books should I read in public to attract women?
>>24954781You don't marry. You knock her up and don't marry. Never marry unless you're a genuine deadbeat with a lot of luck, a complete fool favored by the universe, in which case you wouldn't be here: it's only then that women won't divorce rape you because they know you'll skip countries and never come back if they do.Men like you? Don't marry. Have kids, but never sign the paper without at least talking about the prenup first. It's for our economical safety, babe, I give you everything anyways. Done.
>>24953283But it will intimidate my enemies.
>>24953425Should read it out loud in Arabic just to make everyone even more awkward.
>>24954654ultra incel image. whoever made this will never get laid.
>>24954668yeah, dogs like you have no standards whatsoever. women have no interest in a loser with no standards.
Why is it that all great minds of antiquity thought that love was more than a crude neurochemical reaction? Would they have been redpilled if they were alive after the 20th century when advancement in chemistry demonstrated that love/eros is basically just a powerful drug? Honestly explains many things about the current perception of love in relation to modernity.
>>24953503>protesturd>Christianlmfao
>>24946757Was it love at first sight? Was it easy to devote yourself to her with such intensity or was it a conscious self-overcoming?
>>24946757Absolutely based
>>24945936>If love is real how do you explain the phenomenon where women are very likely to leave their partner when they lose their job?That was never love in the first place but a simple betabuxx/oofy doofy relationship
>>24948159hmm, I do not entirely disagree, but it is not merley God's love that one must strive for but also offspring.>be fruitful and multiplyLike OP mentioned 99% of women are half humans with the devil's soul in them.But the 1% are fine.The way I see it modern man has 4 options to fulfill his godgiven duty of raising another man from childhood to adulthood:>find the rare 1% woman with a full human soulWay too hard and unfeasiable for manyComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
"Chanukah" editionPrevious: >>24940898/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)Simple guides on writing:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24954874Maybe try joining a writer's group or at least some kind of forum where you can give feedback to someone else's writing as they give you feedback on yours. You can pay someone somewhere like fiverr, but that can be pretty pricey depending on your wordcount and the feedback tends to be overly positive since they want to keep you as a customer.
Anyone else been a writer for a long time and just have a terrible time concentrating lately? Practically every morning, after reading for an hour and having some caffeine, I sit down at my PC for about 4-5 hours while listening to music with my manuscript open. On average, I get a few hundred words down. Yesterday I wrote a grand total of 34. Today I ended up here before even finishing with 17 words. It's an exceptional day that I get 1000+ words like some people write on average. I don't know if it's brain fog or a dying passion for the craft. I'm adding fish oil and a B-Complex to try to shake myself out of it. But if I wasn't in the middle of publishing a series, I think I'd take a long break.
>>24952624>nah but?
>>24953947>>24954622>>24954626Okay, now I'm curious if my inherent problem is doing too many things at once.Because, the purpose of the scene is,>show takeoff>show battle intensity>inform what G forces are and how they make pilots pass out>characterization of both pilotsI wonder if the latter is the real issue here. Do readers prefer for characterization to not be explicitly written out, and instead inferred from action and dialogue alone? Because I am doing the former. Can be where the clunkiness is coming from. And I want to solve it. Thank you all for the feedback. I'm always very grateful for how honest this place is.
>>24955064>show takeoff>show battle intensity>inform what G forces are and how they make pilots pass out>characterization of both pilotsYou failed on all those points. Your excerpt made excessively complicated general observations about aviation, before finally shifting to plot-driven action, until which it wasn't clear that there was any particular pilot taking off for any particular reason at any moment. Only the last line conveys a specific action, which is simultaneously the single most uninspiring line and also the most important one of the whole excerpt. Gone is your rich language when it matters most.If writing was like composing, you would want the most important parts to be the loudest, and the filler, the build up, to be subtle and easy going. Get your priorities straight. Understand your own plot. Ask yourself why every word is relevant. Stop trying to be flamboyant while saying nothing.Even the premise of what you said you were trying to achieve makes me wonder why? Why show takeoff if the importance of the scene was the pilot passing out? If you have to incorporate it, make it make sense. Make it relate to the character. Make a mini-arc where he goes through different emotions starting the engine, taking off, engaging in a dog fight, pushing his boundaries, succumbing to the forces of nature, losing his grip on reality.You really said it in the most boring, matter-of-factual way possible:>Abel loses consciousness>The machines barrels out of controlSuddenly this Abel guy appears and we're expected to insert him into the former verbiage of the paradoxical duality of the consummation of aerial ego death in a Faustian crusade of the worthy against gravity. Astute readers will only infer that this Abel guy is "scurvy scum", unworthy of a pilot. According to whom? Who is the narrator? What compels him to say these things?
Can developing the habit of reading heal my brain from years of doomscrolling, porn addiction and isolation that deleted my attention span, memory and gave me a costant brainfog?
>>24944766TrueTemptations and suffering in the christian framework are not merely obstacles but opportunities. Everything you overcome, anger, desire for pleasure, social validation, lust, pride, has you growing closer to God and closer to seeing him. Our lives suck and life will on this earth will always suck, let's make it for the afterlife brothers.Read ascetical theology, keep a journal and try to better yourself everyday to be more like Christ and the saints.
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>>24954562>Lust provoking imageWhat about my picture provoke lust exactly?You get off to little girls?
>>24954562anon...
>>24954562Average /lit/ fag
For much of my life, I have been attracted to various political ideologies and philosophy, but now I have realized that all forms of idealism lead to failure. From the philosophers of antiquity, such as Plato and Socrates, to Hegel, none of them ever worked and they lived in fantasy worlds. When one cannot accept reality and does not believe in religion, one believes in philosophy and political ideologies, only instead of God they speak of the Übermensch, the world of ideas, the will to power, the spirit, etc.This is why I consider myself a pvre materialist.
>>24952931You are underage.
The only "philosophy" that works in practice... is freedom. Simply put, no one will look out for your interests as well as you will.
>>24954676Freedom is a vague concept and changes from culture to culture, for a Chinese freedom means being able to start a business, feeling safe, etc.For a Westener, freedom is saying the n word on Twitter while capitalism collapses
>>24954783>capitalism collapseslol
>>24952931>This is why I consider myself a pvre materialist.You are still idealizing.
>What makes you think you're good enough to write a book?
>>24951814good mindset, good analogy
>>24948669I have seen the top books goodreads. Its not that hard.
>>24953345I understand the sentiment, but it is not that easy either.
>>24948669Practice. Rigorous practice.>>24953209The opposite, actually. Get experience or everything you write will SUCK.
>>24948680A good perspective, history is often sorely missing the thoughts of common people, and the few surviving instances we have of them, are often treasured finds for historians and archaeologists
What pace do you read at, /lit/?
>>24953013I kept track of my reading pace for a couple months. During that time I averaged about 35 pages an hour. That can change quite a bit based on the density of the reading material and the page layout. Right now I'm flying through the Seamus Heaney translation of Beowulf because even though it's over 200 pages, half of them are in Old English and the modern English pages are printed in a verse arrangement. Probably getting through a page every 45 seconds or so.
>>24953249Based anon
>>24953249I mean, I grew up in the same time period with tons of time spent watching TV and playing video games on the PS1/GBA, and still read shitloads. I think it helped that my parents were pretty encouraging about it and read books like Harry Potter, Narnia, and the Hobbit to me when I was younger. Parents nowadays just give their kids a tablet and want them to leave them the fuck alone.
>>24953013>Zoomers need a pacer in order to just readbleak
>>24953013As slow as I can manage.
Two Weeks Left Edition>Old:>>24936611>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>24955042Hogg of course. Dahlgren might too, but he's so far up his own ass in that one that it's hard to tell what he's talking about half the time.
>>24955055It was when he was good and the trilogy is a great Sith story. Just don’t think of the Darth R*van book
>>24952936Not single tome but for more dark hard SF check out Revelation Space.
>>24955091I'm really just complaining about publishers putting author's names in gaudy fonts, sometimes larger than the title, on the cover. Branding over art killed the industry. When you say "it was when he was good" is the problem. People keep sticking their names on the art, and when they stop being good, it hurts their branding. Then it's just gaudy.
>>24955103it’s not that deep bro. It’s what’s in the book that’s more important
I've noticed that a lot of sophist philosophizing is based around this concept of "nonexistence". But it seems obvious that "nonexistence" just isn't a real thing right?How can something exist that by its own definition does not exist? It's just a nonsense idea made up of circular reasoning. There cannot exist a thing that doesn't exist. Everything that exists exists and there is nothing else. Existence by definition is an all encompassing concept. You can't logically accept that things exist and then turn around and say there are things that don't.And logically the concept of nonexistence is already nonsensical but if you believe in determinism the idea really just gets defeated many times over.
>>24953393such a smart boy you are!
>>24953063>Time machines it exists as a concept not as a real thing the idea of non existence also exists as a concept and not physical
>>24951290What's the underlying sameness between the two states of meat? What can we say about the process that links meat in one snapshot and the link in the other snapshot? What makes one story more cogent than another story? e.g. "I applied a certain amount of heat to raw meat, which caused a chemical reaction to its tissues that makes it more a palatable" versus "I did a magical ritual, and that meat just... did that... and now I can eat it."
>>24951290counter-point: raw and cooked are names of types of meat
>>24952710You are confusing lying with being wrong.
Ἁλικαρνασσόθεν edition>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·>>24877858>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw>Mέγα τὸ ANE·https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg>Work in progress FAQhttps://rentry dot co/n8nrkoAll Classical languages are welcome.
>>24954688>then what is the correct phrase?it’s three sentences anon, read closely and pay attention to the endings of the adjectives
>>24954900nta, they seem correct(are you sure you aren't forgetting something something about the gender of trees?)
>>24954900pirus, piri (f.)> pirum magnam (accusative singular)poeta, poetae (m.)> poetarum bonorum (genitive plural)planta, plantae (f.)> plantae pulchrae (nominative plural)ager, agri (m.)> plantae pulchrae agri (the beautiful plants of the field)where mistake
>>24954910>>24954918:oI humbly apologize to >>24954157 for believing that one waters pears
>Sanskrit (+ Hindi)Is Sanskrit worth learning bros? I have the opportunity to take top tier classes in it, combined with classes in ancient India. It seems really kino, but all the modern anti-India hate (justified and not) makes me think its labour towards a pitiful end
