What's will his lasting contribution to Western philosophy be?
>>25024680>YT What is he done to deserve such a normie platform. Put him on twitch.
>>25024213sniffing loudly
>>25024995>twitch>not a normie platformanon...
>>25024666Yeah this. 2022 basically killed his career. It's like night and day, the first Trump and then Biden era where he was cool vs today where he's irrelevant.
>>25024683Lol no
On Ulysses >An illiterate, underbred book it seems to me; the book of a self-taught working man, and we all know how distressing they are, how egotistic, insistent, raw, striking, and ultimately nauseating. When one can have the cooked flesh, why have the raw?Melville was a working man who just basically read a lot. She had in fact read several books by him, and said in her essay on him>Was not some one talking about the South Seas? ‘Typee,’ they said, was in their opinion the best account ever written of—something or other. Memory has dropped that half of the sentence, and then, as memory will, has drawn a great blue line and a yellow beach. Waves are breaking; there is a rough white frill of surf; and how to describe it one does not know, but there is, simultaneously, a sense of palm trees, yellow limbs, and coral beneath clear waterAs for Moby Dick, she said the prose was rather florid but it's greatest strength lay in anticipating the modernist style she her would later perfect
I wonder if she would enjoy the Flashman Papers. It pokes fun at all the masculine virtues she claims to be tired of, but it's still overwhelmingly masculine in outlook despite that.
>>25026193Well I have a huge cock but no money so I know that can't be true
>>25026246I am an absolute autist and multiple women including exes have asked if I was diagnosed with autism and that I should have it checked out
it was easy to hate something that evolved while everything else was perfect, but what would you expect from the wonder miracle child?yes, on one hand it is better to be jealous and attack but imagine what you missed. i suppose the moral of the story is be careful of what you wish for, or it might just happen. in this space, it is better to be an adventurer and let things be bygones and pass you by.
>>25026304/thread
I still love birds Editionprev: >>25015235
>>25026219Unrealistic, everyone would just date Loji instead.
>>25025861I see them having remained faithful to the Aryan principles ones upheld by the Persians and the Macedonian Greeks. This fact has become very visual during the US conquest of Venezuela. The Persians and the Macedonian Greeks would not have performed differently, satisfied as they were with governing over a whole.
>>25026307Anons might, but normies would not
>>25021388Why does every woman on dating apps enjoy traveling? Such an odd coincidence. Truly the rootless cosmopolitans of the sexes.
>>25021388Also with everything being so politicized these days how tf am I supposed to explain my worldview to a woman, when my worldview is somewhere between the ballpark of Georges Sorel and Michel Foucault?
Nabokov is the second most overrated writer in historyHis favorite Tolstoy is Anna Karenina. He doesn't really like anything else. 'Nuff saidIf he wasn't a pedophile, he was at the very least latently gay or transgender. And if you like him, so are you (any of the 3 or all of them at once)
>>25020685You're dumb and annoying. Failthread.
>>25021468you need to levinmaxx. a regular dude appreciates his morality for its usefulness, not for its complexity. you're a fag who wants a 3D morality full of relativity and theories, not something that works.
>>25020566Has anyone shopped a bunch of knives pointed at Vlad for this pic?
>>25026188youre gayi win
I bought the complete LoA set because of you guys, he better not be shit like this thread seems to be making him out to be
>science fiction set 1000 years in the future uses 19XX pop culture references.
>>25025701>story set in 2026 references shakespeare
>>25025701>media in the future>money is all "credits"
>thousands of years in the future>earth is destroyed>aliens discovered>Abrahamic religion
>>25025706yeah its author is a retarded manchild
>tens of thousands of years in the future >earth is long devastated and isolated by the space god king cult>protagonist quotes are 99% from the XX century and below
What are some books with unconventional portrayals of hell? Bonus for the protagonist being initially unaware that they're in hell.
>>25025120My diary desu
>>25025120does it have to be by an irishman too?
>>25025120I could give you a very good recommendation, but I'm going to spoiler it, because it's a rather long short story in a compendium of horror stories by Laird Barron.Pic related is the compendium and they're all great, but one story literally deals with a guy who is trapped in hell and only finds out after he's in far too deep. Since this revelation is the twist at the end of the story however, I'd spoiler it here. If you don't want to read the entire thing to get "suprised" by finding out it's been the hell story and just wish to read that specific short story, skip to "The Procession of the Black Sloth".I'd say it's exactly what you're looking for, assuming you like creepy/horror stuff with your stories. If you're looking for a more I guess kafkaesque story dealing with the absurdity of living in hell, this story isn't it though.
Best books to buy Evangelicals that have almost zero knowledge of Church history to prove Catholicism?
>>25025535>muh backwater church established after 1776 is the true church!murican chuds will never stop making asses of themselves, even Barlaam's ass was more intelligent
>>25026207>Apostles, the first bishopsincorrect, paul was never a bishop
>>25026217whoever does the will of the Father is a son of the Father. the samaritans and jews were already pruned out
>>25026217Good thing we keep our boots on your ground or you'd spaz out further
>>25026200>it was real in my mind, I swear!
One way I like to engage with philosophy when direct philosophy is too arduous to engage with or when I'm burnt out, but also derive no satisfaction from Pop philosophy, is to engage with it through stories. Infact that is first how I became interested in philosophical questions in my late teen years.When I asked this online, I got stuff like Crime and Punishment, and Infinite Jest. But having actually read some philosophy books myself now, they dont seem to engage with philosophical questions "hard enough". I can't say enough about IJ, as I havent finished it yet, but when I'm reading 10 pages about some dude being anxious about whether the weed dealer will come or not, and telling us how much they prepared for this. I sorta "get the point". Its almost like the point is so straight, that theres ultimately no point in the end if that makes sense.Whereas in Crime and Punishment its like every plot beat is contrived to directly lead to the conclusion of "finding Christ". Like the abandonment of Raskolnikovs prior values, of which hes admittedly little more than a stereotypical representation of, wasnt earned, they werent engaged with, his actions werent a reasonable product of them, and so what is left, isnt a counter argument, or a counter proof in the form of a naturally accuring story, but instead pure consequence, leaving the protagonist with nothing, where anything can be filled in with afterwards, in the case of this book. It was Christianity.Any ideology, any thought, any principle can be defeated if you just shoot the person advocating for it. Or if its implemented poorly, hastily, with poor understanding.Thats shallow. Personally I don't understand how people enjoy stories that play out in such a way. I want to be convinced, to engage with the implications shown as if they're not arbitrary, in the way "By Definition" is arbitrary. So that I can be assured in a conclusion that does not come from itself.Is that Dune?
>>25025482>If you're looking for something like a Dosto book where absolutely everything points to a central themeDid you not read OP?
This guy definitely was part of the CIA's acid tests wasn't he? I'm not even going to bother looking it up, its part of my headcanon now.
>>25023785What Dune does relatively will is mix Herberts hallucinations while on shrooms, sabres of paradise by lesley branch, living in the Oregon sand dunes and musing about the nature of power a competition in the upper strata of society.
>>25026216I don't think so, but he did do a lot of mushrooms.
>>25026262hmmm why would i be interested in herberts hallucinations and musings if not particularly enlightening or deep? not that im saying theyre not, but saying "what it does well, is translating the others thoughts and feelings"....is like saying "what X book does well, is having written words" atleast thats how im reading it.
>mfw I live in the grimdark 14th century instead of the glorious Roman past
>>25025852>>25025835Ah yes, name calling, truly the most enlightened of discourse worthy of /lit/.We know you've run out of shitty arguments, take your failed attempts at bait somewhere else.
>>25026264They had PUBLIC TOILETS and FREE BREAD and PAVED ROADS
>>25026264Only paved roads were constructed almost everywhere throughout the empire, and the roads were rebuilt by the medievals once they had staved off the barbarian raids and created some measure of stability. The other two weren't present throughout the empire, only in major cities that your average peasant/slave could not use.
>>25026277reply for >>25026269
>>25020967Childhood is seeing Western civilization as fundamentally Greco-Roman.Adulthood is recognizing Western Civilization as the continuation of Medieval culture.
Is Freud worth reading? His obsession with incest has always put me off but recently I saw someone mention his concept of suffering being when our ego is too far from our ego ideal, which really resonated with me.
>>25025215Half the porn I watch is probably incest porn but thats just because A) 50% of porn seems to be titled that nowadays and it's unavoidable and B) normal porn is so devoid of intimacy that step mother/sister porn is the only way to get a "woman who loves you takes care of you" or "girl you have had a crush on for years finally has sex with you" experience. I don't actually consider myself to be turned on by real world incest and I don't think I would watch these videos if the actors actually were related. So the "popularity" stats of this kind of content probably don't actually tell you much.But yes I will concede there definitely is a lot of sexual excitement around taboo and fantsy, I just don't think that extends to "every man secretly wants to fuck his real world mother".
I REALLY want to fuck my little sister, and I mean REALLY want to fuck her -- in the arse and everything. Like, an unhealthy, debilitating obsession with wanting to fuck my little sister that's been going on since we were teenagers. I've been dropping subtle hints (gradually becoming less subtle), and I think she's finally starting to reciprocate my advances...The only problem? -- I don't have a little sister...
>>25025659>>>/x/ is that way, also please consult your nearest therapist
>Is this guy whose middle name was literally Schlomo worth reading?
>>25022410Freud is easy to follow, which means once you deal with his views as a consequence of doing a somewhat real job, and then to make sense of how the human layering is built, he gets to deliver a very logical progression and explanation of how a lot of the core cogs work and connect. Or rather: What is the true insight gleamed from observing and correctly connecting the dots of the infant phase, and then painting a vivid image of how it connects to adult life.The catch remains that once you have read and digested FreudYou can't take the surface interpretation of his work seriously. Just be honest with yourself, there is no real flowery language over selling sculptures and painting of you fucking your married pornstar, its all failing to connect the dots.
>women like to be naked because it makes them feel helpless before men which makes them cum cum cum>women like to wear a lot of clothes and jewelry because it makes them feel helpless before men which makes them cum cum cum>women like to be skinny because it makes them feel helpless before men which makes them cum cum cum>women like to be thicc because it makes them feel helpless before men which makes them cum cum cum>women love church and God because it makes them people helpless for a powerful man so they can cum cum cum (to Jesus)>women love atheism because it makes them feel helpless to make oppression and abuse when makes them cum cum cum>women are the worst enemy of feminism because in fact they don't want to not be helpless before men because then they won't cum cum cumJesus Christ, and I thought Freud was bad
>>25023812The shilling of existentialism makes sense once you realize it doesn't lend itself to morality easily, and so de Beauvoir and Sartre can more easily rape high schoolers while shafting away any guilt as "bad faith".
>>25026096They're just French. Polanski is a hero there, they consider him a naughty boy
>>25024163probably Carlyle? who I have totally read
>>25026103>Frenchmaybe the catholic churches should've still stood, they've traded the occasional priest scandal for whatever the fuck orgy they call "culture" now
>>25026260The king of France had a live-in harem ever since Charlemagne.
Why are writers seemingly the only people who can live in ways that completely betray their core ideas and still be taken seriously and have those betrayed ideas lauded?
>>25020922Tony Robbins largely practices what he preaches
>>25023169How else are you going to remove such a large population?
>>25021690This, dude was more interested in historiography, economic cycles, seemingly contradictory mathematics, and the rise and fall of scientific paradigms. His good ideas were all used by other scientists working in these fields, often with little credit given to him (cuz USSR bad). Marxist/materialist historiography, Kuhnian theory of scientific paradigms, punctuated equilibrium in biology/ecology, economists and marketing specialists essentially agreeing and using commodity fetishism and the superstructure to manipulate modern culture for $$$, let alone Marx' concerns about the metabolic rift and the environmental effects of industry...all of these are concrete changes in these fields whose foundational ideas came from Marx.
>>25026251That is true, whereas people think Marx was advocating for gay trans-blax or something equally retarded.
>>25020916Because writers are nearly always trust fund or nepo babies who don't have to work or struggle like most people. Their readers are typically the upperclass who are of nearly equal privilege, so lacking a direct confrontation with life or hardship they retreat into a world of ideas that can't be shattered by a harsh reality from which they're estranged. No one has to do anything but posture and everyone maintains their cushy idleness.
How do i make reading at night more comfortable?The bright screen hurts my eyes so bad.At least on my phone i can read fine on dark mode.
>>25026050Buy an ad
>>25026059>bought out by japs now means your product is weebIdiot
just came here to say fuck your thread and the kindlekiddies posting their diarrhea
>>25026252fuck you pastanigger
>>25024179i have my Kobo Libra 2 always set at 1% brightness and like 80-90% of the Natural Light sliderit's great at night
Can any anon suggest a worthy contemporary English translation of the works of Aristotle? Please and thank you. I'm struggling with a very dry and wooden translation right now that simply is not enjoyable (yeah, it's the Oxford, and it's so dusty it needs a vacuuming). Kindly go easy on me, I'm new to reading the heavyweights. And even worse, I'm Canadian.
>>25026011Certainly, Sachs's enderings don't bother me, but I could see how someone might read them and get very annoyed quickly just based on how those two words are rendered.
>>25026132This.
>>25025952>translation
>>25026132>>25026139Then they're not cut out for Aristotle. If they don't want to be annoyed, they can read it in the original Greek. If they want the subtleties to fly over their head, they can read a bog standard Latinized translation. If they want to actually understand Aristotle, start with Sachs. Actually following what Aristotle is talking about is going to be annoying anyway. You might as well get it all out of the way by paying close attention in the beginning.
>>25025952The dryness isn't the result of translation; it's the style he wrote his treatises in. Instead of looking for something more palatable, I'd recommend reversing the order of his writings. The standard academic order would have you start with the Organon, then progress to physics, De Anima, ethics, metaphysics, and finally, rhetoric and poetics. That's fine if you have a frame of reference, but if you're not taking classes, you're gonna be overwhelmed even by the Organon. Not because it's difficult, but because it's hard to focus on. I'd suggest starting with Poetics and Rhetoric first, because they're very easy to digest, even entertaining to a degree, though still primarily lectures like all his other works. From then on, I'd continue with the Organon, which is by far the most dry, but required and will pay off. After that, I'd read his works on natural sciences, and then I'd turn to ethics, then physics, and finally, metaphysics, which I believe should be read in succession. This is the good part but also the most difficult.
Admit it, the only reason you dont like this book is because the author is a gay jew.The book is fucking kino.
NSA, go away.
>>25025676I haven't read it, but even I know it's good.
>>25025676Pop sci books are for illiterates and cocksuckers. Make sure to put Everything is Tuberculosis by John Green in your cart next.
i read deus. it was absolute garbage. truly embarrassing stuff. i don't see why i should value his input on anything after that. so, i'm skipping this.
>>25025676Why did Harari present fictionalism like it was consensus among anthropologists?
