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Almost every other major writer in Europe is boycotting Israel

Not our guy though. He says boycotting Israel reflects moral cowardice and preferring physical pleasure and ease to higher principles
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>>25025982
Yeah, but only Christianity is true. Meanwhile, you’re a pitiable, contrarian heathen.
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>>25026138
you're a bad apologist. aren't christians supposed to be loving and humble? and if you're going be all haughty aren't you supposed to be witty?
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>>25025982
Communism in a nutshell
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>>25026138
you just repeated my post
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>>25020290
>implying Greek philosophy never existed
>implying Norse mythology never existed
countless European nations existed before Christianity, I loathe the stance that Christianity is 100% responsible for every European achievement ever.
This is typical of the whitewashing Christian in Europe, to not give notice to anyone that is not Christian, and then make the assumption that anything of consequence is Christian. What is ironic is you're doing the very same thing that Jews do, erasing the past as you see fit and acting sanctimonious and "chosen".

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is reading romance novels fem-brained?
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yes but there is nothing wrong with that (unless you are going to use this as evidence that you should cut your penis off)

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Midwit books, midwit "philosophies".

Browsing this place is a waste of time and is only detrimental to any true intellectual pursuit. Goodbye forever.
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>>25025623
>sometimes
That word is doing alot of work
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goodbye from me as well, but only because of posters like you, OP. This place is a toilet now.
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>>25025579
>>25025996
that's some fuckign bullshit
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It's actually good for opening your mind but harmful beyond that. Sort of like drugs
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>>25025579
Midwit is the highest anyone can hope for these days.

Just bought this for $3. Did I fuck up? Will I regret it for the rest of my life?
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>>25026175
yes he's been criticized for rendering the dialogue as an actual dialogue and not the narrated recollection that it is in the original, but compare the actual content, the phrasing and style
>And a fine saying it is, in my view.
>In saying this he said a fine thing, at least in my opinion.

>Well, now, it is not easy to disagree with Simonides, since he is a wise and godlike man. But what exactly does he mean? Perhaps you know, Polemarchus, but I do not understand.
>“Well, it certainly isn’t easy to disbelieve a Simonides,” I said. “He is a wise and divine man. However, you, Polemarchus, perhaps know what on earth he means, but I don’t understand.

i don't know ancient greek but i do know that these ancient languages like greek and latin were quite condensed in form and meaning, and Reeve's phrasing seems to me more "greek" and Plato, than Bloom's (or any other's)
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>>25026273
[Had to edit because the Greek showed up weird]
Well, let's compare the Greek. Not in any "lol gottee" way, but we can be more specific here, and maybe both learn something. Let's consider a couple of qualities: # of words (= whether passages are equally condensed), specific renderings, and phrasing.

To take the first example:
τοῦτο λέγων δοκεῖ ἔμοιγε καλῶς λέγειν

I'll put this literally, since it's short and straightforward: "This that-which-is-said it-seems to-me-at-least beautifully said."

Six words in Greek, nine in Reeve, thirteen in Bloom. So Reeve gets very close to the length. Now, he also reduces λέγων and λέγειν to just "saying", and the emphatic ἔμοιγε is reduced to "my". So Bloom's more elaborated translation seems to capture the content somewhat better, in keeping the the repetition of the verb λέγειν and preserving the emphatic ἔμοιγε ("at least in my"). Bloom also translates δοκεῖ by bring out the relation of that verb to the word for opinion, which is taken up explicitly in books 5-7. I do think Reeve is more accurate with "a fine saying" than Bloom's "said a fine thing," though I'd really prefer that they had used "beautiful" and not "fine," which today tends to mean something softer, like "okay" or "alright." Both of them shove δοκεῖ ἔμοιγε to the end of their sentences.

Second example:
ἀλλὰ μέντοι, ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ, Σιμωνίδῃ γε οὐ ῥᾴδιον ἀπιστεῖν--σοφὸς γὰρ καὶ θεῖος ἀνήρ--τοῦτο μέντοι ὅτι ποτὲ λέγει, σὺ μέν, ὦ Πολέμαρχε, ἴσως γιγνώσκεις, ἐγὼ δὲ ἀγνοῶ

This would require more explaining to put literally, so I'll skip that. Twenty-nine words in Greek, thirty-three in Reeve, thirty-two in Bloom, which puts them on similar footing, they're both in range with the Greek. ἦν δ᾽ ἐγώ isn't translated in Reeve, that would be Socrates' narrative insertion "I said" in Bloom's. Reeve treats ἀπιστεῖν as "disagree," and it can connote that, but Bloom's "disbelieve" is literal. I think Reeve's "godlike" for θεῖος is stronger than Bloom's "divine." Neither of them really render the next clause literally; Reeve turns it into a question, Bloom uses an English idiom ("what on Earth"). They both render ἴσως γιγνώσκεις as "perhaps you know", and Bloom is slightly more similar to the Greek word order ("σὺ...Πολέμαρχε, ἴσως γιγνώσκεις"; "you, Polemarchus, perhaps know"). They both effectively the same way, Bloom seems more comfortable with contractions.

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Bloom's edition is pretty good. I enjoyed his long interpretive essay after the translation proper.

Fun fact: Alan Bloom was a Straussian.
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>>25026393
The funner fact is that he studied with Kojeve.
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>>25026393
>Thinkers have exoteric and esoteric teachings.
>My exoteric teaching is that young people should spend more time studying the classics that I teach.
>My esoteric teaching is that I'm gay and you should have gay sex with me.

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You know, at some point a grown man has to stand up for himself

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Any knows the titles of these 2 books next to Destiny?
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>>25024003
>He won that one. Finky humiliated himself.
He was bent over Finky's knee getting spanked like the child he is. Are you mentally retarded?
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>>25026437
>Are you mentally retarded?
Are you? Answer is: yes.
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>>25025932
Reddit has a lot of decent opinions.
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>>25025823
You are the following:

A faggot
A retard
A n*gger
A whore
A cocksucker
A Nazi
A subhuman

I hope you receive cancer, suffer slowly and burn in hell for all eternity while having Lord Satan’s cock in your tiny tight asshole.
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>>25024352
Destiny is Jewish, his mom is Jewish Cuban, most of the Jews of Cuba fled after Castro took power and seized their casinos along with the Italian owned casinos

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>/lit gets beasted on by reddit
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>>25026472
except it kinda doesn't
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>>25026472
>by reddit
you should know by now that r/truelit is just the bitter oldfaggots that never came back
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>>25026472
>leviathan is in this
lmao, libs are insufferable
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>>25026472
This is fake

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Why do you read books instead of lifting weights, going to the club and fucking bitches?
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I fucks sluts and lift weights every other day but I'm too old and too niggardly for the club, it's just not a pleasant experience, I don't even like churches because of how loud they are these days

I keep having dreams about taking a piss in a sink or a box. What could this mean?
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>>25025768
Thanks for giving it to me straight anon. I know what I have to do now
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>>25025784
You guys are all misunderstanding. Im not anxious about pissing. In my dreams im in my bathroom and have the option of pissing in the sink or the toilet and I always choose the sink. Il
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>>25025672
It's not symbolic, your body is telling you that you need to get up and take a piss.
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>>25025672
You might be gay
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>>25025672
has this quote ever been refuted?

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>walk into bookstore
>these are my options
>turn 360 and walk out
>order what i want off amazon

And bookstores wonder why they're dying.
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>>25026438
says the reddit spacing
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>>25026430
that's impossible, next you'll be saying that other games came out in 2025 besides Battlefield 6, Borderland 4, Monster Hunter Wilds, Assassin's Creed Shadows, and Call of Duty Black Ops 7
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>>25026349
I went to a Barnes and Nobles recently and they had Nabokov, Lispecter, Fosse, Vladimir Sorokin, etc. So maybe just look past the displays...
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>>25026363
fukken gottem lmao

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I would like to read something abut coincidence and synchronicity, specifically what purpose if any it has in our lives.

There have been many strange coincidences in my life, some of them so unlikely that I can't help but sense that there was some reason for their having taken place. I would like to read more about this, or about coincidences, twists of fate etc in general if possible as I don't understand how they should be treated.

Two recent examples (which immediately come to mind):

>1. Spent the year 2022 obsessing autistically over a certain historical subject, which was very focused on certain country. Subsequently read a ton about that country and the following year a girl from that country turns up at my shitty workplace in a random backwater small town and we begin dating not long after (she was weirded out about how much I knew about her country)

>2. Recently reading about a certain personality disorder and how people with it approach romance/love. Found an obscure thread on reddit which covered it in a way that was more precise than anything I'd read about it before. The thread only had ~5 replies, one of which was a very brief (and vague) quotation which was pretty cryptic, as the other replies were all lengthy. A couple of days later I'm on Wikipedia browsing the page of a long-dead poet and I clicked onto a page about his wife and that quote is written there, apparently something he said to her when they met.
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They mean nothing.
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>>25026406
Once picked a book on some free book thing outside in the city park. I picked it up purely because I found the cover image appealing. I only looked at the first page and mistook the book for having been written in 1960. I left it in my bookshelve to read it at some point. Two weeks later I'm at the library reading about this fascinating guy named Jean-Jacques Rousseau. I return home, pick up the book I found, and, I could hear my heart racing, it was Emile, On Education. Best book by far I ever read, loved it.
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>>25026406
What’s the quote
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>>25026450
I'm really hesitant to jinx it or break some kind of taboo by posting. Something tells me not to do that.
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whatever you do you best avoid jung he's either gonna take you down a retarded rabbithole or gaslight you until you develop schizophrenia fuck that guy

at the edge of the world edition

ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters

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>>25024457
The Show unironically handled the others better
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>>25024457
This but all the magical elements
The series should have been a low fantasy pseudo history with lore that references a magical past that may or may not be true
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>>25026290
I disagree slighlty , I loved magic when it's visions, or when it's weird, my favorite example is a rhlorr priest in quarth making a ladder out of fire when dany walks around the city, he climbs it and then he disappears with it. it's so absurd it's hard to imagine, I also loved resurrections of beric dondarion
but I honestly despised lady stonehaerth, I remember reading the epilogue of storm of swords or whenever she was introduced and it felt so cheap and stupid, this one chapter made me completely lose interest in asoiaf for a few years, I then read feast for crows and dance with the dragons and I loved it, mainly due to victarion, then I completely lose interest again after season 5 of the show was released (2016?), it became clear to me fat george won't finish the books, now I check /grrm/ every few weeks but I have no hype for winds, and for the author I only feel hate and disdain, fuck him, I wish tv show never happened
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Martin should star in a porn movie where he sits naked on an iron throne replica drinking wine from a goblet while two zesty bucks service his tiny wrinkly old man dick poking out from under his fat hairy belly. Emilia Clarke, dressed as Dany, should be pouring him refills of wine as needed without acknowledging what’s happening.
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>>25026290
Nah
The entire story only happens because of the magical elements
They are present right from the first chapter and have a hand in almost every major plot event

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How do i make reading at night more comfortable?
The bright screen hurts my eyes so bad.
At least on my phone i can read fine on dark mode.
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>>25026059
>bought out by japs now means your product is weeb

Idiot
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just came here to say fuck your thread and the kindlekiddies posting their diarrhea
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>>25026252
fuck you pastanigger
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>>25024179
i have my Kobo Libra 2 always set at 1% brightness and like 80-90% of the Natural Light slider
it's great at night
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>>25025653
it's not about thing, japan so much as thing, not bezospilled.
chinese ereaders are fine too.

He really was a much better writer than Dostoyevsky.
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>>25024912
It's weird how all genius tier writers preferred Dostoevsky, even though most of them aspired for the same degree of artistic consciousness as Tolstoy
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Only one of the due Dosto and Tolsto got sought out by the one and only Philosopher King of 20th century.
>>25013222
opinion so shit that trip faggot >>25021399 agrees with you.
>>25024912
it's the other way around...
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his Georgism is really the thing that screws his legacy over I feel, especially in regards to the reception of his non-fiction stuff. people hear about some obscure vaguely-leftist economic ideology and (quite rightly) get weary, but its probably the least offensive and most measured of the bunch (like, most people today are ironically bigger communists whether they realize it or not.) Tolstoy just wanted something which'd aide the transition out of feudalism, I don't think its much deeper than that. I have no reason to think he was a socialist in any other sense. maybe you'd point to his association with Gorky or Kropotkin, but it was late 19th century russia - you couldn't leave your house without befriending a Red. (and again, its only gotten worse, socialism is no longer niche, its the standard.)
he was a good man, and I do like his books. I hope to one day read them in Russian.
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>>25025355
Georgism was the hill he chose to die on which is funny because nowadays it’s utterly forgotten and irrelevant. No one even knows who Henry George is. I haven’t read Resurrection yet but I’ve heard there are explicit discussions about it in that book with sounds very dated
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>>25021399
fag

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will i get racially attacked in europe though


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