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Can the term "exists" even be meaningfully applied to God? Since "existence" is a category within the universe, does saying "God exists" place God within creation rather than as the ground of all being?
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if god created everything that exists, who created everything that doesnt exist
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>>24687773
Time to read Buddhism mate.
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>>24687773
>Can the term "exists" even be meaningfully applied to God?

Yes. Existence is not contingent on God
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>>24687773
Read the paper "Into the Dark" by Eric Perl. He addresses exactly this with the apophaticism of Plotinus, Proclus and Aquinas

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>>24687918
>"When King's Landing fell, Ser Jaime slew your king with a golden sword, and I wondered where you were."

>"Far away," Ser Gerold said, "or Aerys would yet sit the Iron Throne, and our false brother would burn in seven hells."

What did he mean by this?
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So Rhaegar thought he was birthing THE prophecy baby when he absconded with Lyanna right?

Cause if he just needed a third kid he could’ve easily chosen some minor noble, or even a fucking whore. What was his thought process?
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>>24687937
14yo horsegirl pussy
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>>24687929
For once, it is a dream. It is quite unlikely that the real exchange was as poetic as we see it. Secondly, being Rhaegar loyalist does not mean overthrowing Aerys. Rhaegar coup seems to be pure Aerys paranoia, in actuality Rhaegar and his dudes were doing his thing while patiently waiting for Aerys to die in his sleep and just politely recognizing his legitimate authority until then.
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>>24687943
This doesn't sound like they were waiting for Aerys to die in his sleep.

>Rhaegar had put his hand on Jaime's shoulder. "When this battle's done I mean to call a council. Changes will be made. I meant to do it long ago, but . . . well, it does no good to speak of roads not taken. We shall talk when I return."

Why do men find female authors so trite and boring? I've known well-read dudes who don't read women as a rule just because they feel like they're being subtly nagged or something.
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>>24677272
I've only read two novels written by women since I've taken reading as a hobby about a year ago, Frankenstien and Jane Eyre. Frankenstien didn't give that vibe at all, probably because it's from a man's perspective, but with Jane Eyere, while I did enjoy it, it definitley felt a bit like that especially towards the end when she has to choose between St. John and Rochester. Kinda gave me the ick cause it read so female fanfic with a side of moralizing.
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>>24682623
Yeah, I don't see a woman ever coming up with something like Donne's "A Valediction - Forbidding Mourning" or anything by D. H. Lawrence.
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>>24687761
Though if I wanted to be fair, I always felt like that in literature about love written by men, the woman in question almost never matters as a person but rather as an avatar of femininity, as if it was the thing that the woman embodied to them that these men truly loved and less that one woman specifically, who were quite indistinguishable and interchangeable when discussed at all. I suspect women love much the same way, however. Maybe there is truly only one Man and one Woman that we love regardless of whoever happens to be their representative at a certain time and place.
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Mfw litfags shilling Shelley despite ~90% of it having been written by Percy
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>>24687887
That's a nice cope, but I don't think you're going to convince anyone. You can't even convince yourself.

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I really like stories set small town of America. The ones that I know are the Green Town trilogy of Ray Bradbury (Something Wicked This Way Comes, Dandelion Wine, and Farewell Summer). There is also Riverdale from the Archie comics. Gravity Falls, Oregon from the cartoon Gravity Falls. It seems small town settings are quite good for all kind of genres from comedies, adventures, mystery, thriller, romance, etc. Themes of unchangingness versus change, innocence versus growing up, home vs the world, all seem to prop up in these kind of stories which I really enjoy.

And I want to read more books that utilize this setting. So any recommendations, /lit/?
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>>24685081
sinclair lewis - main street
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>>24685274
Yeah, Updike is the undisputed kang of small town America.
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>>24685081
Faulkner is required for the Yoknapatawpha County literary universe, but it is also distinctly southern, not generic american small town.
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>>24686975
no, that's not it either
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>>24685274
>>24687535
What's Updike?

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>What is Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>Advice for Noobs!

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>>24687596
Shalom rabbi
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>>24687587
I'm the original complainer. My standards aren't that high. I just think that certain tropes, like meeting gods at the start of the story, make the rest of the story feel like there are no stakes. If you're going to want a character to meet a god, but keep the stakes then it has to be something like in Cultist of Cerebron. The MC meets a god (eventually), but he's clearly deferential. The god doesn't explain everything and the MC feels like he's in danger just by interacting with the god.

>He Who Fights Monsters
Another example that works well. MC got isekai'd and there was no exposition dump on how it happened. MC had to figure it out himself.
>Death March
The anime was garbage though.
>Max lvl archmage
>Jackal Among Snakes
>Arcane Emperor
>Descend
>Black Iron's Glory
>Destroyermen
>>24687596
I actually watched that video a few days ago. I thought it was interesting because later in the video he talks about how you could make religion appear more interesting in a story. I don't find that particularly important, but maybe someone does.
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>>24687101
>There's fussing over the rules and then there's underage characters.
I wish we were now like Japan and didn't get our knickers in a bunch over this. It's fictional written content.
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>No, you don't understand, I MUST sexualized underaged girls!
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teenagers who are under the age of consent fuck. Highschoolers younger than 17 fuck. Kids be fuckin. There are real kids in the real world having sex right now. What the fuck is wrong with writing a character of a similar age wanting to fuck? Why does it matter. Fuck off.

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how do you guys feel about this one
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i'm a fan. had me in stitches. i enjoyed this audiobook.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Q3UsA3F-k
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Had it sitting on my shelf for years but always had something more interesting to read first
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Perhaps I didn't get far enough into it but it gets so repetitive for me. I get it's the catch-22 but every page is filled with catch-22s that it gets tiresome to read for me. I've tried reading it three times and I can still never get past the first ~150 pages.
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>>24686973
Fun desu.
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>>24686973
very funny book written by a jew.

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>>24687061
Bukowski's Post Office is not believable. He only takes 6 months of unauthorised sick leave off due to alcoholism and does not drink nearly enough.

1/10: not realistic, insufficient alcoholism.

_t. postal delivery officer.
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The Ginger Man.
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My stepdad's diary desu. It's not really a diary. It's a collection of .txt files in a folder marked "secret" on his 2004 desktop PC. He caught me looking once and he beat my ass with a fire poker. Just about shook my bones like a christmas tree. Then he went into my sisters room and
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>>24687038
Steppenwolf
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IJ

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I keep seeing people talk about Postmodernism in relation to literary analysis, especially Pynchon, but I don't get it. Is it just a pretentious way of saying "words can mean anything you want"? It seems like a total meme. Help a brainlet out.
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literally just means the story doesn't follow the conventional style, it has almost nothing to do with the philosophical "post-modernism". Oedipa doesn't find out if the conspiracy is actually real vs a more traditional story where it all gets tied up with a bow and she solves the case
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>>24687795
Bateman. Batman isn't nearly psychotic enough.
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>>24686201
Or are you frustratingly expressing your latent homosexuality?
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>>24687823
Which stems from what Lyotard called the loss of faith in grand narratives. Life doesn't have all the answers, and there isn't necessarily one correct way to act or observe or live, so this reflects in the writing as questioning the premises of storytelling and the moral frameworks that were in place still in modernist writing.
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>>24686170
Fiction that serves primarily as commentary

Who was the most gifted sister?
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>>24686617
Emily, obviously. Her single work overshadows both of her sisters' entire careers.
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>>24686617
idk man, but according to my mum Anne Bronte is the worst

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>be me
>struggle to read consistently
>spend ~8 hours a day staring at screens in a bright-lit room
>too tired to read at home
>ordered a couple of books from Amazon recently
>turns out one of them was the braille version
>start learning braille to get an idea how difficult it is
>it's actually pretty simple
>slowly read the book in braille
>amazing experience
>sitting in a very dimly lit room with my eyes closed reading a story with my fingertips
>feelsgoodman
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>>24686645
I wouldn't because i'm high on caffeine 24/7
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>>24683713
the rare based frogposter. proud of you, anon.
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The absolute state of this board. The fact any of you are even pretending to believe a massive faggot like OP is just tragic.
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>>24687027
I kneel
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>>24683713
Where do you get your braille books from?

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I discovered him in late 2023, read The Poetics of Space and loved it, read The Flame of the Candle earlier this year and loved that too. He has a book or two for every element I plan on going through. Definitely my favorite phenomenologist to read.
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I love Bachelard but I've only read The Poetics of Space and The Psychoanalysis of Fire. I've heard that his philosophy of science is very interesting but I've never properly looked into it. He was my introduction to a lot of poetry as a teen.
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>>24686885
Bachelard is awesome, man. His stuff about the imagination is tremendous. Poétique de la rêverie is well worth reading. And if you can understand french, do yourself a favor and listen to the small yet precious clips of his voice that are available. He's so jovial, and his way of speaking explains the how and the why of his philosophy better than secondary literature ever could.
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Yep, this humble bearded guy from the east region of France is one of my favorite.

I have read a lot of his book of imagination and it is really pleasant.

What did I just read?

Are all 20th century novels this meandering and nonsensical?
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>>24685083
The end is worth the slog that precedes it. I can't say the same for Demian. Currently reading narcissus and goldmund
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>>24685083
You are on the wrong board, fren.
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>>24685083
Ghastly

>>24685570
>empowered pro edition
that sounds really gay
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Why were so many 20th century authors obsessed with drugs and whores? I understand It's supposed to be a 'counter culture' since religion and tradition had been grinded to dust at that point. But is that really what you do with your new bought freedom? Oh and of course vague eastern mysticism, we can't forget that.
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>>24686305
all metaphorical wolves are gay. anyway, the wolf now does a kickflip as well as the usual stepping.

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Has anyone read this novel?
Thoughts?

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Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

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>Thread Question:
Are there any worthwhile novel novel to comic adaptations or vice versa?
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>>24687907
How about pseudo-fantasy science fiction?
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>>24687907
Try something smaller as those are big series. What sort of things/themes do you like or maybe what sci-fi do you like so anons can see if there is a fantasy equivalent.
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>>24687909
I like exploration of weird novel ideas or profound realization about something or thought experiments.

I don't care about power fantasies or characters too much.
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>>24687915
same
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>>24687915
Check out The Just City. Blend of fantasy and sci-fi as it's about Greek Gods but has time travel stuff in it too.

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does anyone else read books on their phone during their break? or does that not display
'i'm reading' enough for lit? i've thought that once. since everyone scrolls their phone, outwardly it's all the same. i kind of like that.

i work in a warehouse and do this. lately i've been off fiction though. reading about the history of numbers and mathematics in my 30 minutes, scoffing last night's cooking. i love history because it's intellectually stimulating (open-ended) and an alien world in which i can forget the drudgery of my own. yes, i'm also learning mathematics. i have no formal education.
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>>24682884

I've had a stable, comfy pleb job for many years. Reading during work breaks is a ritual I have maintained the entire time. I can just read in a windowless, musicless airconditioned room. I just read 1-10 pages of the current book, retain the basics, and I keep reading it until I'm done. A partial listing of what I've read entirely during work breaks:

Habermas, Theory of Communicative Action
Federalist Papers
The Immortal Game (a breezy history of chess)
Agamben, State of Exception (tiny)
Society of the Spectacle
Houellebecq, Whatever
Joyce, Dubliners
Machiavelli, The Prince (a quick re-read)
Joyce, Portrait (a re-read, read the first time many years before)
Iliad, Odyssey, Aeneid (did these as a unit recently, finished Aeneid at parent's house during a break. Hated the Iliad, but at least now I know who's who)
multiple volumes of Cioran (I made a point of keeping these very discreet, so as not to attract any questions)

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>>24682884
I read books at work, as in I bring the physical book to work with me. My "break" is 3 or 4 hours long so i get a good deal of reading done.
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>>24683586
Maybe you can figure out how magnets work
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>>24683586
This is why, no matter how much tradies make, they will always be low on the social ladder.
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>>24687077
Not really. Since people ultimately only care about wealth, wealth moves the world, what is tasteful follows that and the rest is usually cope, an attempt to fabricate status in light of loss of it with little to prove it since it was obviously founded on wealth to start with. But this isn't about tradies, it's about new money, now not new, now indistinguishable.

Good income vs mediocre income for someone not born to wealth is an irrelevant distinction, and the difference in culturedness is also slight or nonexistent on the whole. The tradies with exceptional income are exclusively intelligent, multi-skilled businessmen. The actually wealthy have a separate culture unrelated to the masses and unfortunately I would not call it classy by any means.


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