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two sentence horror
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>>24844989
What will happen if I remove the mask?
It'll be extremely painful.
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He said to push alt plus ef four.
My work is gone and I have not saved.
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My reflection blinked when I didn’t.
Then it smiled, realizing I’d finally noticed.
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“If you’re hearing this,” the news anchor said, “stay indoors; they mimic voices perfectly.”
I turned up the volume as my own voice on TV repeated the warning.
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My twin brother is masturbating in the the kitchen again. I don't have a brother.

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Which Dostoevsky book do lesbians like the most?
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>>24852262
Their being lesbians isn't the issue.
You are a part of the same wretched internet denizens.
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>>24851866
Why do you need Dostoyevsky when Chekhov is subtly too cruel for a women to read. While Dosto rubs the femme face in his gospel rigmarole in a futile attempt to exercise the demons within, the Chekhow just waits silently as they die off from terminal shame.
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>>24851866
stupid horny japanese high schoolers.
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>>24851985
Didn't that board get infected by trannies?
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>>24851866
I always loved this gif

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ye olde: >>24835665

Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs).
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>Thread Question:
What's your favourite decade of sci-fi?
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>you're not allowed to discuss nonpopular books
>you can only read books through a physical format
>you HAVE to give money to a jewish publishing house to read a dead author's works or you're not allowed to read books
What other middle-of-the-bell-curve forms of rhetoric will normalfags employ?
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>>24850074
Love to see this book mentioned. It's a really fucking weird ride, leans in to its intentional scope creep, and comes off as a weird satire of sword & sorcery, epic fantasy, and Vietnam war books. With gratuitous sex and violence.

It's the most masculine book any woman has ever written, to boot. Go in as blind as you can, and just enjoy the ride. Maybe slam a shot every chapter, that'd probably enhance the experience.
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>>24853194
Ebooks are far more eco-friendly on both a micro and macro scale, downsize the impact of the middle man, and are the ideal way to consume the written word. They should be purchased only for living authors who self publish, and otherwise should be pirated. You should always leave a rating or review of books you like, somewhere, which is worth more than the $0.30 an author would have put towards offsetting their advance if you choose to buy it.

It was actually the eternal Anglo that designed the system, it was just Jews that perfected it, then handed it off to women and academics to maintain.
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>>24853194
Redditrisingtranny BTFO
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I finished rereading the Kingkiller books a few hours ago and I can't help but remember over a decade ago when there was still hope for the third book and there wee talks about a TV series, movies and even video games lmao)
The thing that struck me the most from the reread, though, was how weirdly dated these books feel. Rothfuss does a great jow hiding it with nice prose and clever writing, but you can feel the faint stench of millenial irony and archaic r*dditisms coming from underneath. The whole 'deconstructing the classic male hero' and those 'strong, self sufficient, female characters', so typical of the late 10's era. small details, but can really tell the current state of affairs brewing in there

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After seeing the catfights go on over the past year, I decided to read the book for myself. Joe Sachs translation. Fantastic book. The autist in me loved Metaphysics Delta in particular. But I felt like I left with more questions than answers.

I feel like the topic that Aristotle dealt with goes beyond what it means for something to be universal or particular, and it seems like Aristotle thought that essence is a form that is neither universal nor particular. But Aristotle made it clear that boilerplate Platonism does not logically work, although Sachs makes an effort in his footnotes to point out that something like Platonism can still be salvaged.

I also don't know how we can think of the active intellect aka the unmoved mover as the pure being-at-work of thinking with its object being itself. How can it be akin to wakefulness or meaningfully compared with anything we call thinking when our own wakefulness relies on a capacity or a power to be moved, something that the unmoved mover does not have? It seems like such an austere concept that we might as well treat it as the thinnest, brute fact aspect of being that we were looking for all along.

Idk. Thoughts?
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>>24852748
>Beyond that imo you're mixed up about final causes as being somehow ineffectual or less than efficient causes, Physics 2 is where he talks about this most directly. In normal life we have desires, we can follow or ignore them. But think of the teleology of a living thing, it is the cause of causes, and God is roughly speaking an end like that. The soul of a plant actually transcends all the efficiently caused processes in the plant's life. In a way it isn't "doing" anything, the physical processes in the plant are "doing" everything, they are immediately existent and perceptible, but the soul is the unmoved mover, it's the teleological doing behind all the efficient doings.
I'm not trying to say that final causes are "less than", anymore so that efficient causes are "less than". I was trying to point out that apparently we need two hands to clap, so we have two principles and not one.

Anyways, good points throughout. Looking forward to what you say about essence/existence later (that's been a pet topic for me over the last month, since apparently it branches off into many different philosophical topics as well).

>No I just did it because I'm a retard and can't read Greek well. Enough to be able to profitably 'refer to the Greek' but I can't read it fluently, that's just a mistake.
Even if it's a mistake, it's still a fortuitous one. I like to refer back to the etymology to help remember words and speculate about conceptual implications.
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>>24852634
>But yeah generally speaking thinking of God as a being, or being beyond being, 'at the circumference of the heavens' or in some other world, breaks down and leads to atheism. Occam is the one who says 'hey wait by Aristotle's own principles these proofs of God's existence don't work.'
So you're mad that people import Plato into Aristotle but if you take all the Plato out of him his system collapses into fideism and atheism? K.
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>>24852841
What does it even mean to take Plato out of Aristotle? We don't even know for certain what Plato's robust metaphysics looked like. For all we know they were more or less on the same page. And even if they weren't, Aristotle wrote decisively against boilerplate Platonism (i.e. the third man argument), so there is no "Platonism" to take out of him if that's what you mean.
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>>24852772
>I'm not trying to say that final causes are "less than", anymore so that efficient causes are "less than". I was trying to point out that apparently we need two hands to clap, so we have two principles and not one.
Ah I see. Well yes there are multiple principles, matter is a principle, the five elements are principles relative to composites, and you could say the sublunary world is a principle. But some principles are more principal than others, these lesser principles don't rival God for primacy and they don't have an existence completely independent of his causality. Plato is the one who's more of a dualist - think about what he says in Laws X about the necessity of an evil god, or in Philebus the limited and the unlimited are just 'there' and not derived from anything higher, in Parmenides Being is just 'there' not derived from the One, or what Aristotle says about Plato's unwritten teachings on matter/form and good/evil in the last lectio of Physics 1.
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I will never fathom /lit/'s obsession with irrelevant philosophers like Aristotle and Kant.

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Judy Garland is my favorite actress
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>>24853151
Do you just not eat fruit or vegetables? Being low in vitamin c is hard to do in this day and age
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>>24853113
You should go your doctor
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>>24853229
I eat carrots and bananas. I'm not going to buy two different kinds of fruit like a faggot.
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>>24853235
That's literally only Vitamin C and Vitamin B. You need Vitamin Kale, Vitamin Apples and Vitamin EggReplacement

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if you could unlearn certain things from your mind, what are those, /lit/?
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>>24851801
Overstated, look at this board.
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>>24851818
Someone didn't start with Greeks :)
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association between asphyxiation and panic. if dementia patients can forget to eat and end up dying, surely i can just delete this one from my brain.
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>>24851705
no that's a wrong quote
sadness is not caused by being intelligent, it's caused by the fact you cannot kill retard freestyle without the law getting in the way
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>>24851705
God, bukowski was such a ridiculous faggot.

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Some of the most beautiful prose I've ever read
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>>24851611
thanks for the recommendation!
seriously.
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does anyone have that meme of the family group chat where everyone is sending condolences after someone announces their dog died and the grandad completely ignore them and texts "a book I got today" and posts a picture of this book. lmao
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>>24851611
Hit us with a sample anon, so we may bathe in the beauty.
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https://reformationdalton.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/valley-of-vision.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2S4hScXPQwGh-2fgja71au9dg3tkWPJ-
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Weren’t the puritans the people that hated all fun? The muslims of christianity

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Post your own work and critique others.
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It cradles joy and ache, still burning bright,
as Friday’s drums call lightning through the room.
We moved from house to club, the people’s fire,
two mirrors facing, each becoming one.
Bodies shimmered like saints undone by rhythm,
and time remembered, trembling through the floor:
“Dance while you can,” the night told every soul.
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>>24851245
daily reminder that people who say this dont read or write poetry
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>>24852245
ChatGPT-esque nonsense.
Dead words.
Soulless drivel.
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>>24853193
chatgpt is about a dozen times worse than this
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A name withheld can not be whispered in the dead of the night.
A face unseen can not be dreamed of when the moon is bright.

Anonymity does not inspire affection.
Anonymity does not inspire affection.

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Most overrated book of all time.
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>>24852488
>I like how he writes about the west. Almost like they've journeyed into another dimension or hell itself.

Supposedly he didn't even do it justice to how violent the old west really was. Up until blood meridian there was always that kind of romanticized version of the west with good guys and bad guys and the good guys always fight honorably and win the fight, etc. I mean probably for the average person who wasnt on the frontier it wasnt that bad, but outside the civilized areas things were pretty bad. Its one of the reasons american culture to this day is still very violent and obsessed with guns and the idea of independence, because in the old west those things were important. You needed to protect yourself from hostile others and starvation and so on and there wasnt much in the way of outside help you could rely on.
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>>24852700
huh?
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>>24852700
Right, the 2nd amendment doesn't go back 100 years before the expansion of the West or anything.
McCarthyfags are so gullible
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They led him through the narrow mud streets and he could hear music like a fanfare growing the louder. First children walked with him and then old folk and finally a throng of brown-skinned villagers all dressed in white cotton like attendants in an institution, the women in dark rebozos, some with their breasts exposed, their faces stained red with almagre, smoking small cigars. Their numbers swelled and the guards with their shouldered fusils frowned and shouted at the jostlers and they went on along the tall adobe wall of a church and into the plaza.

There was a bazaar in progress. A traveling medicine show, a primitive circus. They passed stout willow cages clogged with vipers, with great limegreen serpents from some more southerly latitude or beaded lizards with their black mouths wet with venom. A reedy old leper held up handfuls of tapeworms from a jar for all to see and cried out his medicines against them and they were pressed about by other rude apothecaries and by vendors and mendicants until all came at last before a trestle whereon stood a glass carboy of clear mescal. In this container with hair afloat and eyes turned upward in a pale face sat a human head.

They dragged him forward with shouts and gestures. Mire, mire, they cried. He stood before the jar and they urged his consideration of it and they tilted it around so that the head should face him. It was Captain White. Lately at war among the heathen. The kid looked into the drowned and sightless eyes of his old commander. He looked about at the villagers and at the soldiers, their eyes all upon him, and he spat and wiped his mouth. He aint no kin to me, he said.
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>>24853042
Captain white was a fucking retard
He reminds me of the kinda old fucking boomer retired cop that wants to feel like he's still at his old job. Smirking "we might just see some action today" before getting all the dipshits that followed him into the desert raped to death by Indians while he ran away to get beheaded by Mexican soldiers

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>cover
>cover japan :O
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>>24851706
Killer title. I wish I would look into it.
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>>24852282
What's stopping you.
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>>24852282
Book of the New Sun has been shilled here for years, I'm surprised you haven't heard of it before. It's a great read, I've read it a couple years ago and I still think back on it.
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>>24851330
>>24851336
>>24851802
Do you think they read the books? Probably not
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>>24850202
>thing Japan meme
Everyone who posts this or references it does the same thing in reverse

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The breakdown happened a lot sooner than I thought it would, I'll admit.
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>>24852693
Yeah, 2 more weeks etc etc. Whatever. China is here to stay.
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>>24852986
I'm headed? Me?
We're all on the same ship. The West is more advanced because we have a monopoly in technology and aviation, and both monopolies have afforded us military dominance of the globe, but even this dominance doesn't matter. Every other culture on Earth has been infected by efficiency, with the sparse few holdout cultures located untouched on islands in the Indian Ocean, South Pacific, or Amazon. It matters not who takes the reign from us or if anyone ever does. Efficiency will conquer and bring all under its dominion, deciding which cultures die completely and which are commoditized into restaurants and fashion trends. The environment will collapse and just before it dies the system will rescuscitate it just enough to feed off of it some more. Humans will become more and more dispossessed and depressed and hopeless. The system has already invented tricks to help them psychologically (SSRIs, now psychedelics, porn, distractions). Eventually, we will be made unrecognizable physically until no natural humans are left. There is no place for art or divisions of opinion or culture or religion or national interest in any of this. All will be subsumed by the Cult, and all will be made to march towards Progress.
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>>24852664
Which elites? Obviously I doubt a politician would ever describe a pessimistic view of his country. As for the intellectuals, well I've already given you a whole group as example. Even Tooze has been dooming recently.
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>>24853181
in comparison with a rival*
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>>24853032
>In common use it means the exact opposite.
In common usage in America, especially in the 1990s when people took the terms Democrats/liberals and Republicans/conservatives as interchangeable. My boomer Democrat-voting dad today pays more attention to politics now and is still confused by reading about something called the Liberal Party somewhere else in the world and that it's a center-right party. I'm not actually very familiar with how much to left the center-left parties really are in Europe, but they often have names like the Social Democrats.

>The ruling class in Demolition Man satirizes what we actually call "liberals" while the underground nazi chuds are the ones who just want the freedom to eat meat.
That's a funny movie. To me it reads like a quasi-socialist technocracy that sort of combines the social values of Californian liberals with a Chinese-style police state:
https://youtu.be/ydVmMaNbrI8

An interesting thing about the movie is that the society is engineered to prevent conflict. Like you'll get fined if you say bad words, which leaves them totally unprepared to handle a "barbarian" figure from the past. Sylvester Stallone actually fights to protect these pansies from Wesley Snipes and also has sex with Sandra Bullock who looks hot in her uniform, which says something about the conservative id. But what I think it also says is that right actually likes conflict and finds it enlivening. There's a book called "The Reactionary Mind" by a left-wing guy named Corey Robin which he suggests conflict is actually an important part of a right-wing mentality. Things like support for the death penalty is way higher on the right, and as much as right-wing populists have described themselves as anti-war, at the end of the day a lot of them believe the world is a hardball place and one needs to be prepared to do violence. There's a long history of conservative writers expressing outright enthusiasm for violence and warfare in contrast to domestic tranquility. Like, what are we? A bunch of bugmen sitting around like in Demolition Man??? You know there's more to life than that. There are the military values and notions of duty and honor at stake which often run contrary to "progressive" opinion.

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Do conservative intellectuals exist?
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>>24851539
Depends what we call intellectual, is being a succesfull swindler intellectual?
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>>24851738
I dont get the target audience for this image because communists will be like 'sure some of us used to be homophobic but now we are not' and fascists will be like 'who cares we are going to kill you degenerates' like who is this for
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>>24852107
>Curtis Yarvin
>>24852153
>Richard Hanania
lmao
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>>24852990
Studies also show Democrats can't mentally map conservatives and these threads demonstrate the supposedly intelligent ones can't even define conservatism, lol.
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>>24853018
Which are you? Maybe it's for people who actually enjoy thinking and challenging their preconceptions?
The examples are of "communists" being close minded and anti-freedom vs "fascists" being open minded and pro individual freedom. If this seriously conflicts with how you conceptualize the world and you want to refine your worldview to approach the truth you should reconsider your assumptions, how you use framing and labels.

Which year would you cut it off at?
I am thinking 2002, aka people who graduated high school before covid really took over
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>>24853082
Maan. I have same exact sentiment. I finished my masters just now at 29. I was surrounded by lots of smart younger folks, so maybe there's hope, but I definitely were in camp that didn't use it much. It's nice for quick formula to latex translation, but generally using those tools feels like a discussion with a retard. Literary style is dying because of it and I'm not happy about it.
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'01 zoomchad here. You are all equally retarded. I am the only intelligent being alive.
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>>24852862
millenials are so fucking bitter lmao
you've had decades to cope
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>>24848672
Look at the seethe this post generated.
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>>24852147
99 here. All of you are being myopic. Majority of humans have always been retarded. The only thing thats new is that we can see every villages' idiots 24/7.
Other than that. Eh

>needing to read entire books just to understand a chapter of this book

yep its certified kino

>can't buy these for love nor money
This phrase makes no sense, since when is love a traded backed commodity like money
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>>24852828
He has money to survive, but not to buy it. Sometimes, when you really love something, you can get through some days without eating just to get said thing, as a sacrifice.
He doesn't have money to buy it (But he does for basic surviving) but he also doesn't have love to buy it (Sacrifice something to get it)
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>>24852828
Look up "dowry" and "brideprice"


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