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so now that philosophy has been going for a couple thousand years, what is their conclusion? have they've even gotten anywhere? i suspect it's all a meme.
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>>24852237
The only two disciplines that matter are aesthetics and ethics, and those have been concluded before or with Schopenhauer.
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>>24854691
Bodied OP
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>>24852237
The answer to the question depends on whether A or B is true and on whether you find X or Y more convincing
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>>24853307
I remember there was an anon who posted a bunch of these in '22. I haven't seen this one before so I'm guessing there's more. Where can I find the rest? I only have the propaganda and misinformation/disinformation ones.
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>>24852237
You need to think for yourself to answer that question, and no one can do it for you. You may benefit from the advancements of science the same way you may eat bread without knowing how to make it, but not with philosophy.

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Post your own work and critique others.
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>>24853860
Why would anyone reveal anything to someone as blatantly abusive and manipulative as you?
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A parrot in his cage
looks to the setting sun.
To express his boiling rage
croaks "live, laugh, love"
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Returnal, 3-20-2025

Stairs stiff and lengthy laid in paths of marble and cobblestone
Stretch long and beholding with the run of savannah waters
And I see, in their ripples, this place.
Where trees with trunks like legs stumble out of a dark swamp
An eyeless face within the leaves amid the centerfold of the wood.
Its many red arms, like worms that sway in brown air with each stomp
There are thousands of them, creeping along the woodline, and they are whispering
Soft promises of daylight, dryness, and effervescent return. And creaking sings through my pillow.
Roots caress my windowsill begging for an attention God has withheld. Further it comes to me,
My eyes awake, pupils dilated, sight swimming in blackness, yet I can see in its edges
The writhing that follows. Screaming of the grass. Stoppage of bees and pollen.
Its fingers peel, tear at the back of my head until reaching the skull, caressing, admiring it.
Like a dove perched on a finger. Like an apple.
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Tell me where, 3-30-25

O’ how the days come clattering down,
nickels in the beggar’s tin!
each hour spent and still, hunger
Tell me,
Where does longing go when it outgrows the skin?
it drips light like pus, like milk,
like something motherless.
Tell me, will you remember this?
The way solitude softens when shared,
I peel back the sky with bitten nails,
searching for a spine, a faith
I tell myself: there are gentler ways to be alone,
but there are none that hold your shape.

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First time trying to write a sonnet, i get that its basic and cliched - i just want people who are vaguely qualified to read it before i send it:

All of her is perfect - mind, body, soul
Her beauty needs no superficial murk
My longing burns fiery as flaming coal
and yet uncertainty still lurks

Our subtly exchanged remarks and gestures
are not a clearly confirmed admission
And thus, i will try refrain from lecture
in this - my most sincere confession:

I want to make you laugh and smile
I want to kiss you for eternity
I want to tell you without denial,

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I'll start.
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War and Peace
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I read Notes From The Underground and Brave New World in the same day.
Behead All Satans (but didn't finish the coloring book section)
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I read this little meme hungry and sleep-deprived while slightly overdosing on meth in the middle of the night. It was fun and there are a few parts I will keep with me, and I think I recommend it for those who think they'd like it, but it was obviously scattered and amateurish, not great literature by any means

I also read a lot of classic scifi in one sitting when I was younger but I don't remember things well enough to name which ones. I think I also read the ratzinger report in one sitting. Nothing long or serious, I think. You chuds impress me with that
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>>24853977
really?

>>24851924
Siddhartha is overly honest and straightforward. If it wasn't called for detachment it'd be called naive and sentimental. I don't think it's actually that bad, or even bad at all, but it's completely out of tune with current tastes in every way
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>>24854988
*calling

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I'm a 32 year old loser (not a neet) with practically no life experience who spent the last 10 years playing vidya and smoking weed although I don't do either anymore. Can I still be a writer?
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>>24853477
man nobody wants this. people laugh about how that's the nordic identity or whatever but every serious post online is about loneliness and alienation and how it's impossible to get human connection, and if you ever get to talk seriously with someone the topic is inevitable. i don't even know that the common people should be considered rich anymore. sure they might have a playstation but they're in debt and not financially secure. it's just shit all around.
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>>24850130
Try writing one sentence or daily. No pressure, just anything that comes to mind. Can also be personal, just whatever. This is hpw ypu start
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>>24852770
It's true. The triforce of becoming a writer: Out of control drinking, wanton reading, and weed.
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>>24852292
Share a sample with us anon. Let us taste your doom and isolation
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are there any examples of good writers who didn't meaningfully engage with the arts until after 30 and who didn't have interesting or exciting lives?

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Which Dostoevsky book do lesbians like the most?
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>>24854824
Newfag
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>>24851866
If you like lesbians, you are 100% a tranny
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>>24854893
>enter my bedroom after a long day
>two hot girls kissing on my bed
>whoa what, how is this happening
>I linger on the doorstep for a second while they moan and deeply make out and grope each other
>they finally stop and both look at me
>"Oh hiiiiii", they say in unison
No way fag, as a straight man I will NOT unzip my dick
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>>24854824
It is, as in all Dostoyevsky's novels, a rush and tumble of words with endless repetitions, mutterings aside, a verbal overflow which shocks the reader after, say, Lermontov's transparent and beautifully poised prose. Dostoyevsky as we know is a great seeker after truth, a genius of spiritual morbidity, but as we also know he is not a great writer in the sense Tolstoy, Pushkin and Chekhov are. And, I repeat, not because the world he creates is unreal -all the worlds of writers are unreal - but because it is created too hastily without any sense of that harmony and economy which the most irrational masterpiece is bound to comply with (in order to be a masterpiece). Indeed, in a sense Dostoyevsky is much too rational in his crude methods, and though his facts are but spiritual facts and his characters mere ideas in the likeness of people, their interplay and development are actuated by the mechanical methods of the earthbound and conventional novels of the late 18th and early 19th centuries.
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>>24851866
these are 2 men

Can rap lyrics be /lit/?
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got a knack for the cause of your new little paws
not too long before the patter of a pew bitter pause
thy litter still stand by birthing big dogs
watch your watch, watch for wanderlust's walking enterage
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some said seven syllables and suddenly sat something sick
im somberly setting symbols sourced from a sauna
shipping sodding shoddy saudered songs saunterly
somebody call for me
the illness is comforting

yes these are mine.
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>>24850700
Homer was originally performed to accompaniment on a lyre. So, yes.
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Imma slap you, clap you, gat you, wrap you, and map you
Face against the wall, I'm about to drag you for a waltz
Watch me postulate across the abstract space to my pontificates
Listening to some yeezy, I made this next heat!

Burning the jews, trying to clear Montegue
Out of time riding a tangential line
I reach for the a priori, but I end up with komenasai
Slapping a 304 around, looking for God's sound
A jet 2 holiday, I buried a bitch away from the light of day
Avoiding solipsism with these euphemisms for the end of truisms
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i don't think there's anything inherent in rap that prevents it from being high literature. that said, i haven't cared for any of the rap i've heard or read, and i mostly see this point raised by people who seem more interested in culture warring and in undermining the status of "real" literature and art than in anything else
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Is there any rapper more /lit/?

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Please recommend skeptical fiction in which there is a sense that anything can happen and which is not based on taken external world for granted
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>>24854917
Gravity's Rainbow
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>>24854970
Isn't that based on world war 2 or some real world gay shit like that?

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Women seem to be the predominant readers and it seems predominantly porn for them. If men read books it's predominantly long-running sci-fi series.

I've had success and interest in readership but it's not sci-fi (Epic fantasy) and my most success wasn't even a proper novel but a comic. The problem is comics are pretty much dead as well for English speaking countries. Am I wrong or do I need to start prioritizing different countries?
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>>24848820
It won't get better. The only difference will be that the smut is all written by AI
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>>24854384
Men only enjoy non fiction and even that, men don't read it. Just a ten minute summary from a YouTuber who read AIs summary is enough
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>>24849960
What they really mean is buying. Women are definitely the major buyers. That's all that matters.
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>>24848780
Is that Elric?
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>>24854696
>What they really mean is buying.
I've been saying that men just pirate their books. People (mostly women) buy physical books to signal to other people that they read. "Performative" if you will. The "Performative Male" archetype was a projection.

Terminus Samhain edition
Old >>24776647
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Tomorrow I'll finish Best Tales of Hoffmann, and then I'm going to read Polidori's "The Vampyre". I'll probably continue with Robert Bloch's Mysteries of the Worm, to read something a bit easier.
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>>24843382
Ship of Fools was amazing, anything more like it with that inexplicable dread like it's something beyond our control?
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whats some gooner horror?
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>>24843665
It's interesting to see Nathan Ballingrud on this list twice and not even with his best work.

Btw his new book in Crypt of the Moon Spider are phenomenal. I'm an Asheville native and it's always fun to chat with Nathan at the bookstore where he works
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>>24854721
This list was made 2 years ago, when Crypt hadn't been published yet. (I also haven't read it yet lmao)
Very cool to occasionally meet up with Ballingrud! Any interesting stuff he's told you?

post some nice covers
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>>24846037
Sea of Fertility
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>>24849716
Looks like muslim prayer mat
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Books with old-timey style covers are kino
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>>24851923
was gonna post this, thanks
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Any of you doing NaNoWriMo this month? We're only three days in, plenty of time to start still. I haven't, but maybe if enough people call me a fag I will.
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>>24854701
Ah, that's one of the great questions
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>>24853752
I cant write. My mastery over the language is very shoddy, my sentences come out awkward and maligned and i dont even have good ideas to boot.
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I've done nanowrimo every month this year
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>>24853784
This was very wrong from their side.
The purpose of nanowrimo was to improve yourself as a writer, if you delegate the practice to another person or instrument you learn nothing.
It's like someone studying to be a cook and ordering someone else to cook the plate: he does nothing, he learns nothing.
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>>24854954
>The purpose of nanowrimo was to improve yourself as a writer

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Bruh why is this so real tho
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>>24854856
Knowing nothing about philosophy outside of this post I have concluded that Kant is the source of all the world's problems.
Or maybe Hegel. But I'm thinking Kant.
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>>24854856
>>24854869
https://www.goethe.de/prj/zei/en/art/27022324.html
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>>24854856
Heidegger and Arendt were lovers (also Heidegger was Arendt's teacher)
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>>24854592
Foucault raped minors
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>>24854881
It was Descartes but to be fair scholastics were autistic so perhaps..

https://youtu.be/DrMEL20o5KE?si=FWzh7pUL0-ICF8vz
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>>24853648
materialism is so philosophically indefensible now, that we need people like you defending it for pragmatic purposes lol
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>>24853770
>Sure it can, limit entropy to the maximal extent for the longest possible time. Boom, you've quantified basically life's entire purpose.
This is word salad.
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>>24853383
>grift
buzzword beloved by jews who refuse to believe anyone can sincerely believe in anything at all.
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>ITS UP!
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>>24854891
Learn some engrish before coming to this board, m8.

>>24853770
Sadly this anon >>24853798 is correct. That being said nothing speaks against simply recognizing that life having inherent meaning is a personal assumption.
I think that this whole race for the objective truth has not gotten us anywhere, we can make assumptions though. When you look at any ethical system they have hundreds of presumptions. More often than not the credibility of these frameworks rely on the charisma of their proponents. There is nothing wrong in assuming one or two statements to be true, considering that in a human context that already is a lot closer to the objective truth than any other ideology.
Heck, I'd go further than that and even say that the mere fact that one presumes there to be an objective truth at all or that we as humans are capable of comprehending it, is assuming a whole lot.

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Oracular edition

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>24816688

>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE·
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko

All Classical languages are welcome.
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>>24853121
Great series of posts, thanks anon. That's not a mountain I'm ready to tackle now but I'll save it for future reference.
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>>24854448
Also a third interpretation, I saw a commentator say that the hebrew nefesh can just be a metonym for the person, so we get also translations like
> KJV: Whose feet they hurt with fetters: he was laid in iron
with no reference to breath or soul or the neck
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>>24854448
wait I just reread the vulgate and it has animam as acc rather than anima, I'm retarded. he got it from the vulgate then.
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>>24854482
or more likely the book of common prayer, which has:
> Whose feet they hurt in the stocks: the
iron entered into his soul;
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how wrong would it be if when translating from english to attic to look for the word in an example sentence and just copy the accents as is?

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two sentence horror
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>>24853675
kek
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>>24847218
WHY.
WHAT THE FUCK
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"I don't know about India. I've never been there," said the man with the Indian accent.
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>>24854807
Female doctor.
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>>24854834
He’s Canadian.


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