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So you can just straight up copy Joyce and get published? Interesting...

As shit as Pynchon is, at least the genre fiction slop he wrote is original.
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Are you the same anon who talked about "taking down" Gaddis and Pynchon and DFW in that one thread?
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>>25207019
Probably, if I recall correctly the posts looked like something a teenager’s anime OC would say.
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>>25207067
Something something keikaku
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>>25207545
>the fire rises brother
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>>25206463
Who are your favorite writers?

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Which book charts are you actually working through?
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I lost my folder of charts, could you guys be kind enough to dump what you have?
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>>25202727
I started reading from this chart (also Uncle Ted), and worked through the majority if it over a few years and it made me despair to a nihilistic degree that through an inertia of inactive hopelessness, killed my long term relationship.
Obviously I was the one who messed it up, but the picture of the world and the prospects for its future combined with the insanity of the COVID years killed any romance and hope for our future in my view.
I still think we're fucked, especially with AI (not through it's abilities but it's ubiquity) but it might have been nice to have been a little more ignorant and happy with my ex.
Be careful what you read if you have no real way to effect the conclusions. Seriously.
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>>25207736
https://lit.trainroll.xyz/wiki/Recommended_Reading/sub
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>>25208258
>>25208265
thanks

And if one does not? What if, like Žižek said, duty to enjoy is the primary duty in capitalism because it legitimizes the system? Or as he suggests in his commentary to Revolution at the Gates (an anthology of Lenin's writings), unhappiness is the primary and fundamental revolutionary condition, making it the ultimate blasphemy against capitalism which must look for any other cause than capitalism itself, and handle it as a sin to be dealt with through the secular father confessor.
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>>25208134
>on their knees
Kind of like your mom when food is scarce in the house?
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>>25208219
see: no one has read the fucking manifesto.
its like a century of shit talking marx out of fear
fear of what?
the people
what democracy fears the people?
a fake one. hello USA.
here we are
marx is pro- people, pro-democracy, anti-taking your shit - he goes out of his way to discuss this.
read the fucking manifesto
but its a bit literary, so maybe dont
fuck you
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>>25208259
no, she stands and uses a vacuum
you poor sad son of a bitch
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>>25206619
Oh yeah? You're even wronger than I
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>>25208271
>if you ain't read the heckin manifesterino then FUCK YOU
You sure this is good for Le cause, redditor comrade? You seem a bit emotional, like a woman

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Ordered this. What am i in for?
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>>25205680
Hard boiled crime kino marred by yet another homosexual psychopath serial killer with a traumatic childhood plotline
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>>25205708
>"Mad Dog" Ellroy.
>n 1962, Ellroy began to attend Fairfax High School, a predominantly Jewish high school. While in high school, he began to engage in a variety of outrageous acts, many anti-Semitic in nature. He joined the American Nazi Party, purchased Nazi paraphernalia, sang the Horst-Wessel-Lied at school, mailed Nazi pamphlets to girls he liked, openly criticized John F. Kennedy, and ironically advocated for the reinstatement of slavery. His "Crazy Man Act", as Ellroy describes it, was a plea for attention and got him beaten up and eventually expelled from Fairfax High School in 11th grade, after ranting about Nazism in his English class.
this guy was a real jerk
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>>25207028
I know. He's great.
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>>25207028
>jew false flagging nazis
What else is new?
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>>25208448
He is white

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I’m looking for a book on hair loss, or more specifically, how to stop hair loss.
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>>25206825
This guy got mind broken by hairloss so badly that he is now known as "heatherpaedo" on /int/
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>>25206825
Not a /lit/ topic. But we'll ruthlessly make it one by turning this into a GREAT BALD CHARACTERS IN LITERATURE thread.

Three to kick things off:


— HUMPTY DUMPTY (LEWIS CARROLL, ‘ALICE THROUGH THE LOOKING-GLASS’)

“And how exactly like an egg he is!” she said aloud, standing with her hands ready to catch him, for she was every moment expecting him to fall.

“It’s very provoking,” Humpty Dumpty said after a long silence, looking away from Alice as he spoke, “to be called an egg — Very!”

“I said you looked like an egg, Sir,” Alice gently explained. “And some eggs are very pretty, you know” she added, hoping to turn her remark into a sort of a compliment.

“Some people,” said Humpty Dumpty, looking away from her as usual, “have no more sense than a baby!”

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>>25206825
Microneedling + topical min / fin + vitamin K2 + D + ketoconozole
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>>25206825
This guy is a hack no wonder midwits love him so much
I'm glad he's going bald he deserves it
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This >>25206838
OP, try reading Oedipus Rex

Ἔαρος νέον ἱσταμένοιο edition

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>25151591

>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE·
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko

All Classical languages are welcome.
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>>25207190
I'll raise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKwX2IAPtxg
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How similar is Roman Empire Latin to the medieval and Rennaisance Latin?
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>>25208326
ἀνέγνωκα γοῦν διὰ τὼ διττὼ κεκληρομένω ἀριθμὼ φ λόγους τοῦ Αἰσώπου καὶ, βραχέων μὲν ὄντων τῶν μύθων καθ' ἕκαστον, ζ ἀνέγνωκα μύθους, τουτουσί·
Ἄνθρωποι καὶ Ζεὺς
Γυνὴ καὶ ἀνὴρ μέθυσος
Ζεὺς καὶ ἄνθρωποι
Ζεὺς καὶ Ἀπόλλων
Ζεὺς καὶ Προμηθεὺς καὶ Ἀθηνᾶ καὶ Μῶμος
Ζεὺς κριτής
Πόλεμος καὶ Ὕβρις

ἐπὶ πᾶσιν ἐχάρην ἀλλὰ φιλτάτω φαίην ἄν εἶναι Δία κρίτην Πόλεμον τε καὶ Ὕβριν, ὧν τὼ παροιμία τουτωσί·
· οὐ χρὴ θαυμάζειν διὰ τοὺς ἀδίκους καὶ πονηροὺς ὅτι τάχιον οὐκ ἀπολαμβάνουσιν ὑπὲρ τῶν ἀδικιῶν αὐτῶν
· ἔνθα ἂν προέλθῃ ὕβρις ἢ ἐν πόλει ἢ ἐν ἔθνεσι, πόλεμος καὶ μάχαι εὐθὺς μετ’ αὐτὴν ἀκολουθεῖ
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>>25208403
you should see it more as two distributions with heavy overlap, depending on the author, some recent authors wrote with prose easily mistakable for classical in terms of style and wording, others a more modern style, overall though it shouldn't give you troubles, the constructions more typical of medieval Latin are still largely understandable coming from classic, even the orthographic differences aren't that big of a deal(e instead of ae, ci instead of ti, some y appearing where i should be, etc...)
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>>25208403
Pretty similar. Same language and all. More learned authors wrote more classical-style, but even many “unlearned” authors still write in a style familiar to St. Jerome’s idiom in the vulgate because the text was so influential on anyone who knew latin in the middle ages, and St. Jerome was a highly trained grammarian and classicist so his work did a lot to fossilize Latin into a still recognizably classical mold.

I can’t imagine what medieval latin would have ended up like if he hadn’t existed and all medievals had as a shared text were vetus latina texts.

What are the hardest quotes ever written? I'll start.
>We imagine that as soon as we are torn out of our habitual path all is over, but it is only the beginning of something new and good. As long as there is life, there is happiness. There is a great deal, a great deal before us.
- Tolstoy. War & Peace.
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>>25207412
Smile for once you miserable cunt
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>>25207717
My hero…
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“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”
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>>25207274
>Stupid admire complexity, genius admire simplicity
Terry was a schizo poet.

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the matrix has been broken
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>>25204460
i'm having a great day sweaty
thx for the bump
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>>25203814
>>25203819
>>25204460
>>25204592
These new ways of bumping your own threads are getting crazy
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>>25204667
*ding*
you have failed your psychological evaluation
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>>25205839
but i digress. this board is too stupid for boor. probably haven't even read enough jordan peterson or BAP to appreciate him.
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>>25206161
>this board is too stupid for boor.
i believe in the capacity of anons. some might say this belief is my greatest weakness, but i dare say it's my greatest strength.

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So the best book in decades dropped three years ago and you are not gonna talk about it?
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>>25208159
we know BAP it's you.
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>>25208159
What is this about
Looks vulgar

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why are people so resistant towards the idea of a universal metaphysics?
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>>25208112
>t. sophist
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>>25208118
I’m an advanced level aspirant with multiple confirmed siddhis

Attaining these miraculous digits praising Guenon (pbuh) was done by myself unintentionally as a spontaneous manifestation of my high level of attainment.

https://warosu.org/lit/thread/20222071#p20222222
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>>25207970
guenon isn't even a good representative of universal metaphysics. yes for metaphysical traditions, but not metaphysics itself. better to read those in the OP
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>Metaphysics
schizo shit
pure substanceless speculation
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>>25208420
something a hylic would say

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>age
>current book
>your thoughts on it
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>>25207407
Naive retard.
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> By Night in Chile by Bolano
>23
>Only 25 pages in but enjoying it so far. Beautiful prose.
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Against Method
The thesis is incredibly important and changed (maybe coalesced is a better word) my thinking quite a bit, but the text itself is full of mistakes and extremely dated, cringe leftoid sentimentality. Overall a great book but it feels like it could be rewritten by someone else with modern knowledge and become even better. About halfway done with it now, might skim the rest as I'm already convinced and dont find much of the argumentation all that compelling in detail.
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>>25206827
Moomins appeal is just wallowing in coziness with a touch of the mystic fear of the finnish forest. It's for pretty young kids, although I still find it very charming.
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>>25207944
Stop signing your posts.

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Should I spend $60 on this?
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>>25207241
They're not of the same stature.
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spend $60 on a used kobo then get that book for free
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>>25207141
buy once cry once
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>>25207141
Nope. Intensely biased work. May as well read Russel if you just want the author's opinion.
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>>25208436
you can't even spell russell

post and talk about your favorites from the junior fiction shelf from your library, pic related was this for me. its like my hero academia six years before it was even a thing, but a year after the movie sky high.
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>>25207670
You’re too right, friend. That’s one good thing though about youth, you can pretty much blast through anything without much care to fully understand what you read. I was a bit of a slacker though. I had to study Macbeth in school, and found it to be tedious. I never studied Hamlet though I’d probably feel the same. But as soon as I left school, I thought I’d read it before watching a play and fell in love with Shakespeare’s stuff afterwards. So honestly it depends.
You still ever go back to the stuff you read as a lad?
>>25207674
Kek, that first part doesn’t surprise me
And neither does the second. I didn’t pick up either until my mid 20s, and I struggled myself then. I’m rereading the CPR now though. Wittgenstein I will get back around to at some point eve though I don’t really agree with him.
It’s funny you mention Subahibi. I heard about that because of Wittgenstein, not the other way around. I don’t really indulge in visual novel/anime stuff. Even still I gave it a try and found it really enjoyable but it was quite ghastly and depressing too.
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>>25207695
Funnily enough, I didn't even manage to finish Subahibi. I was big on visual novels and I remember everyone hyping it up before release so I prepared as best as I could, but ended up tapping out during Zakuro's chapter. I was too much of a wuss.
It did leave quite an impression on me, and it (alongside Black Souls 2) laid the foundation for me to eventually enjoy Gravity's Rainbow. Whatever gets the kids reading and all.
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>>25205469
i thought molly moon was cute
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>>25207663
>one time I made myself temporarily schizo by reading Revelations and trying to pattern match it to current events
Pierre Bezukhov-maxxing
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Every time I get around to actually reading some famous author, I immediately realize that 99% of what I've heard about him is meme shit from people who never actually read him. I've been reading Gibbon, I'm about halfway through volume one (of three in my edition), and despite a decade of hearing "Gibbon's thesis is that Christianity caused Rome's decline" from BOTH online retards and Classics professors, that is very obviously not his thesis.

Maybe he really goes ham on Christianity once he gets to Constantine and the Christian emperors (I'm just getting there), but even if he does, the first 300 pages are a sophisticated structural account of Rome's decline, with several interrelated substructures. He's fascinating from a historiographical and intellectual-historical standpoint, because he's clearly drawing on things like Montesquieu (explicitly), French Enlightenment "philosophical history" (Voltaire, Mably), and Scottish Enlightenment sociology, and synthesizing them with late Renaissance and Early Modern methodological innovations, like Tillemont and others in the ecclesiastical history tradition. His Englishness also constantly shines through, to the point that you almost feel you're reading Burke whenever he talks about political philosophy or political economy.

What is interesting about Gibbon doesn't seem to me to be anything close to "Christianity bad, Enlightenment good," although as I said I haven't gotten to the Christian emperors yet. It's that he's writing a historical account of independent but dialectically related causal nexuses. The latter are the protagonists of the narrative, not nations or individuals, judged against static a priori criteria as in Voltaire and still somewhat in Hume. Historical causation emerges on its own terms, with multiple structures interacting and causing mutations, even when Gibbon still has Enlightenment/anticlerical priors like Hume or (most schematically) Voltaire, which is a genuine advance in historical method. His coverage of Christianity FITS INTO this style of writing, it's one causal nexus among others. Now I finally understand his importance for the emergence of the field, and I find it amazing that he's roughly contemporary with the Gottingen school.

Worse, whenever you actually read something like this you realize that all the "things people always mention/cite/say" are from the first 50 fucking pages of the first volume. I'm never trusting anything anyone says again. I'm only reading primary sources. I will attack anyone who tries to summarize a text or an author to me.
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>>25208027
He does write more about Christianity towards the end of volume 1, anon. The perception that he firmly believed Christianity caused the fall of rome isn't something people just made up.
It sounds like you've picked up from somewhere that he wrote what was essentially an anti-christian axe-grinding polemic interpretation of Roman history instead of what he actually wrote which was an earnest but ultimately off-base attempt at an explanation for the fall of the Roman empire.
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>>25208027
I noticed this with the Bible too. 90% of what people talk about are the first 50 pages of the Old and New testaments.
As for Gibbon, agreed. He does talk a little about how Christianity is a more passive worldview not focused on the material realities, but it's one of many factors and it's not even presented as a total negative, where popular understanding would have him presenting it as a civilization wide suicide. If you want to see Gibbon actually mad about something, wait till the very end where he spends a few pages bitching about the fucking Italians constantly going to war with each other and destroying old Roman architecture.
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>>You accuse all people of making half-formed opinions of books they've never read
>>You haven't even made it halfway through the book, yet you have magically formed the correct opinion
Retard
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>>25208027
>i will only read primary sources
>reading secondary source

bro
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Criticism of Gibbon comes from spergy e-tradcaths seething at based Gibbon's work despite it being a foundational work of history.

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What are some certified noided books?
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>>25205932
timaeus
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>>25207707
>heavily expurgated
What did they remove?
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>>25207874
>What did they remove?
I don't know, I just know the book as it is published is significantly shorter than his entire Exegesis corpus. (It's 3k pages vs like 40k pages or summat crazy like that.)
The fact that it says "edited" on the cover should have given you a clue.
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>>25206532
VALIS is a cognitohazard. I felt deeply uneasy whilst reading that book, and I'm a big Dickhead. It's disturbing on a spiritual level.
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>>25207880
>It's 3k pages vs like 40k pages
Probably for the best


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