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>>24891345Is absolute garbage.
>>24891497NA
>>24889537You're just assuming things because you can't argue the point.Why would I lie about not liking LotR? I don't care for genre fiction in the first place, and I like its movie adaptations even less. None of that stops me from evaluating the two.You do understand that you can make hierarchical judgments without being a "fan", right? Critics do it constantly. You keep collapsing evaluation into fandom because you don't have an actual counterargument to the claim that literature generally produces stronger works than their film adaptations.
>>24881924Lies. It’s on everyone’s top movies of the 2020s list
>>24891454I don't trust anything Cameron post-Titanic. The first movie being "hurr durr, military bad but natives good" is just the icing.
What do we think of Olga Tokarczuk? Is she really one of the best writers of our generation?
She's actually quite interesting because despite her adoption of all the current thing-isms (feminist, leftist, vegetarian, self-hating Pole because muh colonisation), her writing is actually pretty good.I'd say the best approach would be to treat her like J.K. Rowling. Take from her writing what you wish and ignore all the gay political stuff going on in her personal life.
>>24889850I read Drive Your Plow and I don't think she's worth your time. Hard to say how much was lost in translation of course but I doubt that much. She's overpraised because she's saying all the fashionable things (white men bad, etc).
>>24891487>self-hating Pole because muh colonisationAm I missing something here? Who the fuck did Poland colonize? I thought they helped the Haitians overthrow the French?
>>24891502Poland never formally colonialised anywhere but they at one point held colonies in African countries.But that's completely irrelevant because it's woman logic.Poland is an ethnically white European country and historically has been thought of as such, therefore white men bad and every other race good, and sexism and gay stuff and so on, you know the drill.
>>24891003Yeah, I would say of the three that I've read:Plow - lit favor bestseller by numbers, not offensive, not excitingFlights - actually good, somewhat obtuse book, a story collection really, but some of it is excellentThe Empusium - seemingly designed to make /pol/ posters angry, it's an amusing riff on Mann, but a little dramatically unsatisfying on account of the Mission Drive. Contains more worthwhile prose than Plow though.>>24889869Yet you would recognise GRRM and Sanderson. Feel proud of yourself
I'm going to my first ever Literature Club at the age of 29. Surely book-reading people will be worth talking to.I'm expecting it to be another worthless group of incompetent cliquey retards like the last IRL meetups I went to, but I want this one to go well.And yet with 4 hours left before the meeting I still can't find the motivation to read the book we're all supposed to talk about.WTF do I do?I don't even remember what the book is called. It's "what we lost" or something and it's about some twat looking for kid's toys.Pic retarded and unrelated
>>24891470by the way feminists were never burned at the stake or institutionalised for hating men but they should have been.The last writing group I tried joining was reading that, so I bailed.
>>24891470Maybe I'm wrong, but I have the feeling that you aren't going to find authentic book clubs filled with adults because they're all going to be pretentious snobs. They don't read because they're passionate about the stories, but instead because they can flex their intellectualism on others. "Look at me, the books I've read are from Oprah's book list or they're giant tomes of post-modernist rambling or they're award-winning books about disabled black muslim lesbian refugees."Discussing the latest Halo novelization in high school lit club was probably your last chance to connect with people who just genuinely liked to read.
>>24891511Makes me thankful for having the ability of enjoying and immersing in my books
My mom was really insistent I read picrel growing up, now that I'm getting back into reading again, I decided to give it a try after finishing The Hobbit.What's the general consensus on this book/series?I've heard all kinds of bad things about it, but most of them have to throw in some hate for the author and his political ideology as well. They call him a Libertarian, Ayn Rand simp, Anti-communist, pro-hierarchy, and all that in the sort of way that presumes it's bad to be any of those things. Granted, I don't want to read a book just preaching political ideas, even the ones I agree with. (I don't know Ayn Rand's beliefs, and I don't call myself a Libertarian any more, just to be clear)Is it just Redditors being mad that an author disagrees with them, or are these books actually that bad?I'm at about 150 pages, and kind of struggling to find the will to go on. The writing is just wonky and awkward most of the time. Maybe I'm just too used to Tolkien and his masterful writing, but it's just offputting. It's written with the subject matter of an edgy smut fanfic, with the subtlety of a children's book.Also, is there some sort of literature equivalent of the Three Episode Rule from Anime fandom? I'm just wondering how much it's expected I give books as a "Fair Chance" at it.
>>24891395>The writing is just wonky and awkward most of the time. Maybe I'm just too used to Tolkien and his masterful writing, but it's just offputting. It's written with the subject matter of an edgy smut fanfic, with the subtlety of a children's book.You basically just summarized it all, but the villain is kind of cool and I remember liking the concluding sections which made the first third checkpoint worth getting through.
>>24891395It's not great, but still memorable, at least the first couple books. >Is it just Redditors being mad that an author disagrees with themYes, Reddit hates Goodkind with passion. I do believe it's mostly because of politics. While Sword of Truth isn't particularly good, it's definitely not the worst thing ever.>Also, is there some sort of literature equivalent of the Three Episode Rule from Anime fandom? I'm just wondering how much it's expected I give books as a "Fair Chance" at it.Personally, I always try to finish the first book in the series. If it's not good enough, I drop it.
What the fuck? He's just like me...
>>24890719undoubtedly better than garnett. otherwise, it's a matter of personal preference - they tend to come off stilted and uncanny
>>24890760My only Garnett experience is The Brothers Karamazov, which came off very stuffy and flat, but I haven't read any other translations so I don't know if that's just the book itself.
>>24890719They are extremely literal. I speak Russian (but not enough to read Dosto in the original) and there are times where I can "see" the original language through the translation.For some people this is great. For others it sucks ass. I personally don't mind them.
>>24890701Adolescence ends at 25.
>>24890701>>24891207Is it bad that I'm thinking like him even as an adult? I also want to be like his Rothschild-Jupiter idea; to possess all the money and power, and then willingly abstain; to have absolute freedom, self-sufficiency, and superiority of inner power over outer action.
Which is the highest art form: music, literature or visual art?
>>24885959>they’re always choosing the ‘main’ one where there was a much better contemporary just off to their side. verdi not wagner.Wagner's music and libretti are infinitely better and more important than Verdi's. The trajectory of Verdi's opera career can be summed up as being more and more influenced by Wagner as the years went on. It's really not even a contest. How arrogant can you be that you know so little about 19th century opera and then criticise someone for knowing what they're talking about? Although it's ridiculous in the first place to mention Verdi and Mozart since they didn't even write their own libretti, and no, working on it with a collaborating writer is not the same as them actually writing it.
Literature is undeniably the most important. Never heard any reason as to the contrary that wasn't pure cope.
>>24886116>the best painters don't take years to finish a painting
>>24886146>>24886158>>24887418This is true.
>>24886031>>24890074This is only true in the most trivial sense. You mostly just have music loops here, art assets there, a script in the background, and gameplay mechanics on top. The latter is the actual artistic core of games, not the surrounding media. They're just a formal system of rules and player actions. It's a completely different category than literature, music, or painting.>>24890734Only Wagner's (in theory).
How would you rate the writing in Elden Ring
>>24885074For me bloodborne is as thematically cohesive as dark souls. I feel like he had a very clear idea and direction of what he was doing. Dark souls feels more earned in its world, Lordran feels like a real place (nothing in Bloodborne tops it imo), but still I would put bloodborne up there. All in all the story is quite simple, but I agree it's much harder and it takes much more effort to piece together.
>>24880562FpbpSmartest wizard? A woman. Strongest warrior? A woman. Best politician? A woman. Main protagonist? A woman.
>>24887965Stfu chud
>>24880560Like an introduction to esotericism and the hermetic traditions of (mostly) western countries. BB and DS2 had some much more compelling moments, BB in the motifs and DS2 in the writing.
>>24884191>Is has nothing to do with the west.>Victorian London's aesthetics >Church is main factor on societal influence >inspired by Poe and Lovecraft>inspired by Masonry>totally not WesternWhat drugs are you on?
Is this fat bald retard full of shit? Why does he act so entitled, as if he possed esoteric knowledge and everyone else was a fool.Redpill me on the fat bald retard
Jorjani mogs him.
>prose includes whole phrases in Latin with no translation
>>24891026early moderns would very commonly pull out obscure full quotations from latin and just put it in thier diologue. kind of like how later english writers of the later 1800s might use french, or quomodocumque biscoctum butyro unctum est.
>>24890856thankfully now that we have AI we can know the meaning of it. get fucked elitist assholes :)
>>24890856Schoppy does this too, sometimes with ancient greek. ngl I'd do it too as a flex
>>24891198that's exactly why it is now safe to once again lard up our prose with latin, french and even chinese
>>24890869Sapkowski wanted his Hussite Trilogy trilogy to be like that, but the publisher wouldn't let him keep it untranslated.
So a former/lit/ author recently published with a traditional publisher. I'm told it's generating a surprising amount of buzz. Would it be worth purchasing do you think?
>>24876957I've written stuff on lit over the last decade, and my novel is with agents and a publisher right now. We'll see how it goes.
>>24878914>Tell me more about the broccoli.It is NOT broccoli. It is a club. And the hand is not just any hand. It's the hand of the Devil of the Corn.. The club is going to be used for "clubbing" his victim who is lying out hog-tied or lying down spread out somewhere between the corn stalks. By clubbing, yes, we do mean anal insertion (you can see that besides "-corn," "-an" is likewise prominent in the title--it is shorthand for "anal"). What follows is the most graphic and horrifying scene in horror fiction written to date, something that can only come out of the twisted mind of a Western Australian raised on a vegan diet. To read more, buy the book.
>buy the bookbuy an ad
>>24889067that rich cascadia bastard has taken up the entire allottment
whens the next Tales of the Unreal?
>Every book you read should lead you to an actiondo you agree, brother? You know this? Hey
>>24890021A mindset of someone who does things only for money. Merely surviving. I thought the productivity cult was a western thing but I guess it's just human nature.
>>24891235Globalization slowly turns every country into USA; it's mostly a western thing and you shouldn't mistake it for some universal pattern.
>>24890021if it hadnt been for the miracle of humans creating longform narratives, you'd still be a fucking goat herder -- oh wait.>goes for a takedown on me>produces pistol>then produces rapierstand or be delivered, goatnigger
ay I come here for smesh, no read brotherwhat is this read? to be man is not reading, you know this
>>24890025Smarter and more successful than all the fags on lit. Mogged by muslim goat herders.
FUCK he is good
>>24886728>despises lotr at least in part because of all the fantaslop that came after it>becomes the godfather of ao3-style furry steampunk gigacringewhat did he mean by this
>>24890584He who fights monsters et cetra et cetra.
>>24889291he writes genre slop
>>24886728How the fuck do people not see that the long dashes make your stuff look like it's AI generated? Visually it's the first time I notice, it's so off putting
>>24891492People used em dashes long before "AI" existed, but they should stop because you—a moron—find it hard to tell the difference?
Recently reverted to Islam and I want to know you do guys have any books recommendations
Did anyone read Mulla Sadra?What’s a good way to start with him
If you haven't read at least a few post-2010 academic books on the history of Muhammad and the Quran, you don't know the history of Islam. Too many discoveries have been made to rely solely on Islamic sources. Any religion must be studied objectively.https://thegreatsecretofislam.org/https://www.youtube.com/@ExploringtheQuranandtheBible/videoshttps://www.reddit.com/r/AcademicQuran/wiki/index/https://www.reddit.com/r/AcademicQuran/wiki/index/bibliographies/
>>24890507https://www.reddit.com/r/AcademicQuran/wiki/talmudparallels/
>>24891339>>24891341go back>>24890225Read lots of hadith
>>24890253>Even look at "Christian" countries todayThis argument shows that you haven't even studied Christian theology. Think of Bosnia and Indonesia, where girls flirt with non-Muslims online. But this isn't directly related to the heretical nature of Islam, so Christians don't use such arguments in discussions with Muslims. Be honest, you don't know Christianity.
What if because people aren't supposed to mention him by name and refer to him as "he who cannot be named", when some kid first hears the name "Voldemort" he has no FUCKING clue who people are talking about?That would be funny.
>>24891033It's like in real life when every one says "N-word" and some kid hears "nigger" for the first time and fails to make the connection.
>>24891397>can't change eventsSirius.
>>24891461What about him?He didn't get his soul sucked because Harry and Hermione saved him.Just like Harry didn't get his soul sucked because Harry saved him.If you can change events, then Harry would have never made it to the time turner part of the story because he'd never survive without the help from future him.Hence, it's a closed loop, you can't change events. Do your reps.
Why did magic blood supremacists from some of the most prestigious magic lineages in the UK even follow a half-blood?
>>24891495He's the last child of the Gaunt family, the heir of Slytherin, and has the rhetoric they're looking for, as well as the drive to actually act upon it.
I've spent most of today trying to find an agent to represent my work. I kid you not I have not found ONE that doesn't include the following:>BIPOC representation please!>want women's lit>romantasy exclusively>fast paced and humorous! (i.e. Marvel quips)>is a woman>have about a gorillion submissions per day>a sea of agents that you have to search one by one, only to find out most of them are close to submissions, the ones that are open want slop>have an agency that's shut down>deadI don't wanna complain but holy fuck. Now I'll start going very niche to see if I find someone but the landscape looks very bleak. At least if you want to go the traditional route and don't want to become a tiktok mongrel doing dances to get the booktok audience, which I'm not even sure would work with what I wrote. I might end up self-publishing just to say I did it.
>>24891363yes
>>24881198>publishingMainstream publishing means that you're looking in to making a profitable CONSUMABLE PRODUCT. Not a work of art or any of this shit.Profitable publishers know what makes money and what doesn't and unfortunatelly that usually is slop. The only exceptions being veteran authors that already have a sizeable and profitable following.If you aren't mass producing slop you have no choice but cover the risks yourself by self publishing or find some hyper niche publisher that aligns with your work.
>>24891371>cover the risks yourself by self publishingIt's literally free to do this btw. There's absolutely zero (0!) downside other than maybe getting evicirated by the critics or letting down your fans.
>>24891351how can you tell?
>>24881198>most of todayLike with any job, it might take some months before you find someone good. It's possible you have done this already, but publishing short stuff on magazines helps a lot being noticed, so it might be worth getting some shorter stuff out as you look for an agent. For the rest, don't lose faith and keep insisting anon. They say it's over for the sensitive young man, but it's not true. Publishing books is hard and frustrating but it's still doable provided that you have some good material. Keep writing and sending your stuff out. Do not give up.
