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>Analytic philosophy
It's just what failed scientists do.
>Continental philosophy.
It's just what failed novelists/poets do.

Philosophy is a cope. Read literature.
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>>24629471
Art doesn't exist without culture. We have a socio-economic system in place of a culture because we abandoned philosophy long ago. Enjoy your porn. Stay stimulated.
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>>24633355
>something that doesn't mean that harming other people is completely forbidden???
Moron. Go talk to ChatGPT so you can elevate yourself from a sea sponge to a worm. You are far away from a human being.
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>>24634394
nigga if you think hindus and buddhists are pacifists then you're below retarded. now shut up i'm trying to watch the smurfs movie
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>>24634399
You are all day on 4chan which is why you answer promptly to every message here. Genetic deadend subhuman.
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>>24634433
nah i just frequently check 4chan

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Which is the Inception of literature?
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>>24633405
Need book on Jedi mind tricks from redditor pov, le elites, drug abuse, sneaky chink riddles , sexo with qt student and chasing ghosts of past.
No, its totally not Gravity's rainbow
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>>24633420
So House of Leaves?
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>>24633819
>God, Melmoth was such a clusterfuck
How so? The story wasn't confusing to follow
Pic related is a chart showcasing the book's structure, I might as well post it

>>24633968
Thanks, I haven't heard of Nest of Worlds
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>>24633612
>paprika
which it improved
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Ubik. all the modern iterations of this type of story can undoubtedly be traced back to PKD, despite how much more conventional although more polished and focused the offspring may be.

>>24633635
>it should be at least 3-4 layers of storytelling
alain robbe-grillet - in the labyrinth

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The sixth sense is just consciousness.
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there are 32 senses, and all of them are forms of feeling.
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>>24633836
consciousness is not a sense but more like the point in which all sense come together... faggot
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consciousness is a pre-requisite for all senses retard

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It's incredibly sad how well this book has aged. Mearsheimer may be incredibly hit or miss like all realist school types, but I was very impressed with how much he hit the nail on the head with this book, and I also see why it cause such a massive firestorm on release back in the day given he was the first serious American foreign policy figure to approach and address the issue.
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>>24630469
Then post evidence or recant
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>>24626529
Americans, Russians and Muslims. Jews too,
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>>24625478
All destroyed because of Arabs und Islam.
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>>24621970
Am Yisrael Chai
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>>24631649
> the younger generations of Westerners with their dehumanizing and radicalized rhetoric

Who are you referring to?

Just finished this. Amazing. Simply amazing.

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shelf thread
post your shelves
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>>24614909
I find reading on my Kobo much more comfortable than reading physical. I alternate back and forth honestly
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>>24631675
>I wish I had book friends
a passive cry for help ?
...are you enjoying the water margin ?
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>>24633614
imagine reading a book after some anon's fapping hands have been all over it.
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>>24633614
fag
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>>24633614
TRVTHNVKE
They have no answer against this.

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His idea of "Aufhebung" has no basis in reality whatsoever. The classic argument against Hegel is still valid; he was too much of an idealist.
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>>24633680
Define 'reality'.
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>>24633680
Jesus fuck have you even read the Marxism of a Uk organisation of left coms run by the British police????
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>>24633680
I don't like dialectics. I don't think it has any real application. That's not to say there aren't trends in the world that it matches, but the the idea you can derive truths about the world by starting from an abstract thoughts is just wrong. At best you starting off with a preconceived notion, and then fitting that into an abstract logic. The most famous example is Marx's exposition on the commodity form at the beginning of Capital. He didn't derive any of that shit from the abstract, he got it from reading Smith, Ricardo and his own research and then tried to make it seem like it was "dialectical".

Its no coincidence either that Capital Chapter 1 is often cited as the most confusing part of all his work, as opposed to the rest of it where he doesn't use "dialectics" but instead just quotes research and observation.
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>>24634182
Fields
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>>24633680
To this day I feel encouraged not to read Hegel and I enjoy that I never read him...

That dood was a wanna be... he actually tried to hard and failed to be real

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I'm sorry, I just don't get the appeal beyond the Hobbit.
The Hobbit is fine. It's written at the reading level of an 11 to 16 year old boy. And what's it about? Dragons and swords and going on a quest and wizards and dwarves and shit. ie, the sort of stuff that appeals to 11 to 16 year old boys.
But LOTR and especially the Silmarillion? What's the fucking appeal? If you're at the reading level where you can handle a book of that size and complexity, you should be too old for stories about orcs and elves and magic.
The same way how Star Wars or comic books are fine for kids, but have you ever met a 30 year old man who was super obsessed with the lore of the Star Wars EU? Like bro, it's a story about space wizards. Or a grown adult who treats comic book movies like a serious form of art?
Autists who take stuff for kids too seriously are (rightfully) mocked, both irl and on this site. But there's this weird reference for this guy's universe of fairy tales.
>What if I still like reading about this stuff even when I'm an adult.
Grow up and real, you know, real history. Tolkien's most interesting ideas came from history anyway.
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Ok
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>>24634284
Filtered.
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>>24634284
it requires a big soul and a strong imagination. some people, anon, lack these integral ingredients.
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>>24634284
only patricians can appreciate worldbuilding

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>I'm so despondent about everything. Everything I try goes totally wrong. There's no escape from this hole here. I feel drained. So far, I still haven't found a real purpose in life. Sometimes, I'm afraid to get out of bed in the morning. There's nothing to get up for.

- Joseph Goebbels, 1923
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>>24629044
Sure, why not. As the great philosopher Taylor Swift in the making of shake it off video

>you have to look like like you're having more fun than everybody else

The emptiness of that phrase never left me.
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>>24633061
I like how that song was like ten years ago an she was seethingly trying to dunk on people commenting on her obvious trainwreck love life... and now it's a decade later and she's gotten literally fucking nowhere.
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>>24622243
It was Halloween in the city, presumably by some clubs and bars.
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>>24622173
So the webm is a Frenchman in Manchester that went there specifically to slay 10/10 in bonland slags? Does he blend in or does he play being more civilized than the norf chuds?
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>>24633974
>Frenchman
It's a Maghrebi creep from Marseille

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why it's written like this?
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literature for chuds
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>>24629290
It's men going into the wilderness and finding an unseemly aspect of God and taking a liking to it. Hell isn't "other people" as a cock-eyed frog put it-- other people are the Abyss that sounds out your own fallenness. Keeping things moving along keeps it hypnotic.
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The black reared his head at the sight of the lubricious form of the judge's pale phallus serpentine it wandered gazing out into the world as an infant unborn and yet undesired brought into the world cold and pale and unbreathing. Its pillaric form shone brightly in the void the pillar stood mute upon the black promontory a monolith wrought in obscene geometry. The Judge took to a foul chimeric cacophany of grunting as his member penetrated serene the fistula of the niggers anus dark and unmoving in that sea of serpentine parades the Judge set to stirring up the very soul and the thrice uncottered dreams of the buck were fetched as if a pulque upon the sunborn indigo infant of the world yet unawakened in this land or any other. His breaking came forth as if unbidden into that old night the shadows long and gristled as each thrust was delivered ungouged and unrequited it's eldritch desire can be found buried deep within the hearts of men. As some titan cherubim this pale form let out a cry in the tongues not of man or beast but like to an infernal register unheard in this world since that brought forth tears from the eyes of the watchers and were rendered as stars that danced like naked pygmies upon the bastion of Babylon.The watchers members taken also in hand at their opportunity to arrive unbidden into the bastion of that forsaken womb to bring forth not a child of god but a buck rendered broken upon the firmament which would render the dreams of that infernal race delivered asunder unto the world, writhing and unformed but yet natural in the land that conjured it.
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>>24629741
>>24629798
I don't understand. This is very good.
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The Searchers is the better chug murdering book.

Best homosexual authors?
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>>24633460
Henry James
Marcel Proust
Thomas Mann
Oscar Wilde
Yukio Mishima
Henry de Montherlant
Andre Gide
Evelyn Waugh
Saki
TE Lawrence
WS Maugham
Patrick White
Gore Vidal
Jean Genet

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>>24633781
boomers ew
Alan Hollinghurst
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>>24633845
But that guy is an actual literal boomer writing in the era when homosexuality became banal

Some other good ones: ,!4&/590)34 Isherwood, Jean Cocteau, James Purdy, James Baldwin, Truman Capote, EM Forster, Umberto Saba, Tennessee Williams
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I really like Brett Easton Ellis I think he's hilarious
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>>24633855
>,!4&/590)34
odd Christopher spelling

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Welcome to our reading group vetting server, we most likely will start with Plato (no hylic atheists please) https://discord.gg/kf4g5EvB
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>>24632986
My diaryscord
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Stop advertising your crappy discord tranny lair
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>>24627617
How does it gatekeep if everyone there is as much a degenerate weeb coomer as on here anyway?
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>>24627222
>>24627777
Wasted trips and quads in this thread baka
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>>24627049
I aint trusting any of you niggas even with fucking discord. Keep your server to yourself

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[something pithy and engaging]

Tomorrow morning 10:00am BTS the Character and Theme requirements of Lit’s writing competition will be released.

You will have until Monday 23:59 BTS to write and submit. (that’s an extra half day from the other comps.)

Submit via rentry.co – you can change the url of your submission to your story name to be identified easily.

Your writing must reflect the Character and Theme requirements – the character requirement doesn’t have to be your main character and the theme can be creatively interpreted, but those who just ignore it will not be voted for.

No word count, but anything over three thousand is most likely going to drag and no one wants to read your novel.

To submit, reply in the thread with your rentry.co url using a tripcode (Namefield: Name + “#” + Password).

If you submit you should leave meaningful feedback for at least two other stories. Put in what you want back. There aren’t many places on this planet to get raw, no filter feedback, and it’s the best way to keep sharp and improve.

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>>24633449
>Something else that occurs to me is that, when you make the thread, you might be tempted to link our stories.
>but I’d ask that you not do this.
I wasn’t planning on doing this anyway, if only to lighten the load of the OP, which I want to make as short as possible.
You tell me if this is appropriate:

>Subject: /WIBAC/ — Writing Inspired by Art Challenge

>You have until August 18th, 12:00 PM GMT to fill one /lit/-sized textbox (3,000 characters) with writing inspired by this piece of art from /ic/ (>>>/ic/######).
>[Countdown timer link]

>Poetry, prose, greentext, etc. are all fair play as long as your submission fits inside, and exists soley within, a single textbox posted in this thread.
>(That means no off-site links and no text-as-image attachments!)

>After the submission deadline, each entry will be weighed according to its creativity, literary merit, and storytelling.

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>>24633449
Also:
>What am I afraid of exactly? That some anon tries to undermine the thread by pointing out a verb-tense disagreement here or comma splice there? Well, kinda!
I can’t tell you that something silly like that won’t happen, but my own ancient iotas in imaginary strangers’ eyeballs downright tortured me for a time—just blink them away.
If the worst comes to worst, and we’re all harassedly audited for our grammarturgical sins, at least the thread will get bumped :P
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>>24632489
>I'm keen but only if you need a third judge; if you, meteor or hermes bails then I can sub.
No, the more the merrier, and your insights are incredibly top-tier.
If you’d like to be a judge, it’s yours, and you wouldn’t be butting me or anyone else out.
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>>24634176
>[and ?????, the artist behind the image.]
I wrote this in brackets because I’m of two minds when it comes to asking the artist on /ic/ to be a judge.
On the one hand, it’s their artwork, so they are best equipped to know what kind of writing most suits it.
On the other hand, this baked-in suitability is a kind of bias? One which might preclude receptivity?
And the whole point of this challenge is to come up with and instill interpreted meaning, and hearing an authoritative voice on the intended meaning will no-doubt detract from that?
Maybe I’m overthinking this—at the very least I’m linking them the thread when I make the challenge.
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>>24634192
Great, count me in. Do we just list our gold, silver and bronze, or rate all stories from best to worst?

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Currently reading this and god some of the chapters in it are a slog. Like 150 pages of this book is just minutia relating to finance and economics and banking before and during the world wars era. These sections could have been like 1/3 the length.
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>>24634125
That's probably why John Taylor Gatto says that someone with fresh eyes should sit down and edit these books so that the meat isn't removed.
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>>24634125
That’s the important part. He’s showing why the wars are started and whom they profit (bankers).
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>>24634125
Just read this instead.

Anyone read it yet?
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>>24634122
>>24634132
There's a mix of both, but it's difficult to justify one over the other, knowing the themes I am trying to explore.
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>>24634149
What? I'm talking about the quality of your writing. I'm sorry, but you're trying to write a sophisticated book in a foreign language, and have at least a decade of studying before you're ready to do it.
I only know one language. I can write in my native language, as i'm sure you can. Your ambition is actually hindering your development as a writer of english. Have patience.
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>>24634158
Thanks for your opinion, but how would you know whether the book achieved its goals if you've neither read it nor lived through the characters' similar experiences?
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>>24634199
Because I read the first two chapters and I am a well-read native english speaker. I'm telling you that it is immediately and consistently too esl in a bad way. You are still young, it's not a bad thing. You have a lot of potential, just keep reading english books and learning. The quality of your narratives and characters experiences etc is irrelevant if your prose is poor in this way.
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>>24634377
Read the entire book, then give an opinion, the quality of your review is irrelevant if you are this quick to give an opinion. And like i told you, i'm not trying to emulate nabokov, his prose is too refined for the purposes of this book.


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