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>>24689521
>What have you written?
Original peer reviewed historical research on the positioning of nomenklatura, intelligentsia, intellectuals, professionals and white collar workers in relation to self-articulating movements of workers. I'd recommend you read Sheilah Fitzpatrick and Andrle if you're interesting in how the soviet union was fucked up. Haraszti Miklos is just a standard fordist narrative from an intellectual sent down to be a worker, he didn't really penetrate the factory.

You can read better than Applebaum: you're worth it. Drinking shit won't turn you into spiderman, reading refuse won't allow you to critique actually existing socialism.
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>>24687497

>Red Famine

Those Cossack barbarians had it coming desu
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>>24687650
>Graham Hancock
>Varg
lmao what a fuckin goof
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>>24687888
They're great if you want to read retard babble
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>>24692032
Or we could just read anything you type, same difference

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Write about this scenario with your best prose.
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this HR meeting is a vibe fr fr
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>>24691971
da hoes be trippin
yo
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>>24691971
This is why I’m glad I’m gay
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>>24691971
Thats why im glad I rape
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Were you Worthy we’d be blurry, bicho.

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people who read a lot and know history well enough, do you think that antisemitism has rational enough roots for us to be antisemitic now
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>>24691950
Arrest every politician accepting their money for treason
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>>24691950
A lot of it would, but it'd take the top 500 not top 40.

Name something that you don't like about society, and there will be a jew at the forefront of its advocates. I don't hate Jews as a group, but that's a little weird, isn't it?
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>>24691955
Arrest every politician accepting their money
I want to name the solution to a problem, in order to fix it. Like if my house is on fire, the solution isn't pointing out pornography is also bad.

>>24691958
A lot of it would, but it'd take the top 500
Feels like Stalin tried all that with deporting different ethnic groups everything still sucked.

Solzhenitsyn wrote:
>If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being.
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>>24691728
Are these muttgolems in the room with us right now, Hans?
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>>24691815
Roastie hands typed this

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Wondering if anyone has any good books or stuff to read to understand some of the older religions of Europe
Mostly to learn the general facts about them
I also want to know more about how and why Pagan religions were conquered by Christianity
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>>24690886
>It is all a larp
Nope
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>>24681924
Hesiod's "Theogony" and "Works & Days"
"Plato's Myths"
Ovid's "Metamorphoses"
de Coulanges' "The Ancient City"
Assmann's "The Price of Monotheism"
Varg Vikernes' blog

Short answer, Bible religions are false religions that were created as a political tool. Their goal is to supplant real religion by destroying its history while also adopting any parts that are useful for it to remain influential over the people it's supposed to control.
Christian emperors made their decisions based on power and greed. The Roman Empire was very weak, and Constantine simply made a choice that would allow him to reconsolidate power.
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>>24691245
>Bible religions are false religions that were created as a political too
Which books of the Bible? All of them? Have you read the book of Job? It would seem evidently no.
>>24691245
>The Roman Empire was very weak, and Constantine simply made a choice that would allow him to reconsolidate power.
Christianity does not need Constantine nor the Roman Empire. The Church has outlived both and thrived all over the world.
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>>24691458
>Which books of the Bible? All of them?
Yes
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>>24686002
This anon was correct.

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>be me
>older bro
>work my ass off
>younger bro blows cash
>dad throws him a parade
>me? nothing
how do you respond without sounding mad?
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I wish more Christians lived by this parable
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>>24689622

>dude just mutilate your dick lmao
>dude god play my bullshit game with one of your people and hurt him to prove a point against me lmao
>dude the prodigal son is all good lmao

christianity is the go-to punching bag because they make a virtue of weakness, but to begin the necessary work of getting clear of religion once and for all, we must really begin with its most harmful manifestation: islam. islam does something even worse than the above moral depravities in its text: it commits elementary arithmetic errors. Ideally, infants are separated from their parents and then the religion of islam is not replaced with christianity, nor with communism, nor with any other sort of ideology at all. What is necessary is to disrupt the cultural transmission of all forms of religion, to prevent their inculcation and transmission altogether. The hard part is to ensure that this pure void, or vacuum, is not psychologically replaced with anything else. We ought to create and sustain the vacuum, because it is the best available representation of truth for how the world actually is.
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>>24689694
So you're saying I should personify and worship the vacuum? Maybe build some idols and come up with a logo or sigil so my fellow voidbros can know they're in safe company.
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>>24689502
it's about how God is happy to take you back even though you have sinned
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>>24689482
Work? Discipline? None of that matters. Only love matters.

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What written work of Christian apologetics can best convince atheists of the error of their ways?
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There is no one thing you read. Prayer, fasting, vigils, ascetic labors and spiritual exercises, these are as or more important. The latter were also considered essential by virtually all Pagan philosophers and the Eastern thinkers too. You cannot expect to reach truth and wisdom without developing virtue. Metanoia is a long process.

That said, pic related is particularly good. I like it because a lot of people have a lot of bad preconceptions about what Christianity is, or only know very shallow forms of it. By approaching it through Chinese as opposed to Greek thought, it is easier to avoid misconceptions. People also get tripped up by Greek thought all the time because they have assumptions about it and don't realize how far the Reformation took the Western mindset away from what had dominated for most of history.

>>24682998
I haven't read that one but DBH is often quiet good. All Things Are Full of Gods is a nice antidote for empiricist philosophy of mind. Empiricism in general largely gets by through conflating itself with science DESU. Once you realize they are quite different, it becomes easy to see that so much of it rests on a patently bad epistemology that has to deny all value (and arguably even truth) from the outset, because of its presuppositions about what counts as evidence.
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>>24688839
>Christian youtubers
Who are the best ones?
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>>24687850
>The Transcendental Argument for God is the most convincing as far as I'm concerned.
This. I went from atheist to believing in Brahman because of the TAG.
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>>24687852
Better to tell the parole board that you found Christ and helped the other retards in prison get their GEDs or whatever
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>>24688174
Ah!!! My intuition!! It's telling me to rape this anon! Someone stop me! That is, if you intuit that to be moral, of course!
>>24688425
I'm pretty open about my disdain for freedom

What are the ethical consequences of Spinoza’s causal determinism? If there is no free will in the traditional sense, on what basis can we praise or blame individuals for their actions?
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>>24692017
Totalitarian communism

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Best literary works, that instill hope and paint humanity in redeemable way.
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>>24690637
Freedom
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>>24690631
This is good. Franzen’s characters are most the dislikable people I’ve ever come across. I guess there might be realism there, but I can only imagine what its like in his head lol.
>>24690626
Parsifal, Richard Wagner
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The Tempest
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>>24690626
The Brothers Karamazov and The Forged Coupon because they are honest but optimistic

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ITT we discuss the details & literary merits of various history books.
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Boomp
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>>24675905
Terrific and the only pop history to get the reasons for the USSR's fall right (it was all Gorbachyov)
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>>24679802
"Street without Joy" by Bernard Fall. Classic study by French journalisy embedded in French forces fighting in Indochina. Not a great linear history, but captures the personalities, vibes, and reasons for French failure
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>>24680681
Not a book, but you won't find better than this article: https://chuangcn.org/journal/two/red-dust/
Also summary here: https://knowledgeshouldbefree.blogspot.com/2020/10/summary-of-chuangs-red-dust-transition.html?m=1
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>>24683222
Rich coming from a guy who was a despot

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Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>Previous:
>>24681926

>Thread Question:
Say one positive about a book/series you dislike and one negative about a book/series you enjoy.
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>>24691756
the Darth Bane trilogy and the revenge of the Sith novel are the best of what you listed. Read those before you burn yourself out.
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>>24691682
>>24691745
Lorn is still a traditionalist Gold who would have turned on Darrow if he knew he was a red or wanted to abolish the hierarchy. I think there's plenty room for flaws in a character like that who preaches honor but turns his head at cruelty like that.
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>>24691771
I think he would've been like Romulus. Political differences with Darrow and would've killed him if he could, but recognised the rot of the society and wouldn't mind a good culling at the top. Probably would've done it himself if he wasn't sad about his sons
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I've been reading Gibson's The Bridge series, it's not so bad. They're no where near as the highs of neuromancer, but the writing is still fun.
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I can't be the only one who cares about gold society in red rising more than the actual plot at this point. Honestly, he should just go all the way back to the conquering, and follow some of the first golds (or the preceding scientists and philosophers) before the first war. At this point the RR universe has just become another milquetoast scifi series (with boring supernatural stuff like the main antagonist that doesn't even belong in the story)

What should I read to learn more about blessed Lord Ganesha? I'm only familiar with The Bhagavad Gita which doesn't feature Ganesha kino.
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He's a bit of a later addition to the Hindu pantheon so he does not feature at all in the Vedas or itihasa. The famous scene in the Ramayana with Valmiki and Ganesha is almost certainly a later interpolation. As mentioned earlier the Ganesha Purana and Mudgala Puranas are the best scripture regarding Ganesha and he appears frequently in Middle Indic literature, primarily in collections of hymns, most prominently among which is the Ganapati Atharvasirsha and with several other devotional works in practically every region of India. His cult is strongest in West and South India so those have the most, but the painting you posted for example is from the foothills of the Himalayas
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>>24691109
Another famous work that slipped my mind is the Ganesha Panchatantram stotram of Adi Sankaracarya. The sect he founded (Smarta) worships Ganesha as one of the principal five deities so he receives a great deal of veneration in that tradition
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>>24691109
>>24691121
Thank you, Ganesha chad
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>>24691109
Was he created before or after Airavata, the mount of Indra?
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>>24691906
What a based mount

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For me, it's chapter 11 of the Bhagavad Gita, the most beautiful chapter in literature.
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>>24689673
SOVL
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>>24689545
I like the part about doing your work without caring about the reward.
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>>24689673
Based UpaniChad
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>>24689673
Based and Krishna pilled
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>>24689673
Wow

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>if you had something important to say, you wouldn't be hiding it behind big words when small words work fine
pseudo bros, how do I refute this? I've been trying for years.
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>>24690261
If your goal is communicating, keep it simple
If your goal is beauty, be metaphoric
If your goal is to confuse and mog, go speak jibberish
If your goal is to be a retard, go spit big words at unattending ears
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>>24690493
That's crazy. I live in a trailer, and I am always making comparisons like this.
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>>24691657
You do but do you know anyone else who does?
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>>24691698
Probably the other people in his trailer park because they’re all philosophy majors
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>>24690817
I don't think many people mind more ornate language when it's used artistically. But most people dislike "big words" outside of artistic play, when they only serve to obscure simple concepts. I think everyone has met people that try to seem more intelligent by using some obscure words while spewing complete nonsense.
Speaking and writing in an understandable manner is a skill that many thinkers disregard. The problem is almost never the readers being too dumb, but the authors just not being that good at writing.

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If every event in the universe is causally determined by God's nature, in what sense can human beings be considered "free"? How does Spinoza redefine freedom to be compatible with determinism?
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I don't know, we should read his books to check it out

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Write a critique of this poem without sounding like a mad incel.
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>>24690433
The entire modern system of social organization is to blame.
>>24690433
Could provide some context to Taylor Swift, what she means and put the middle parts as one lines, the pseudo-profound line breaks lack naivety and come off as false

The day Taylor Swift, our living queen
Who speaks from her heart and makes us all feel seen
Became engaged to Travis Kelce
A tight end on the football team
A happy man, handsome and kind
Who loved our queen with yearning eyes
And despising not her virginal charms
Took her hand in marriage,
Little girls screamed and grown women cried
And the awkward child we all carry inside

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>>24690940
The verse in OP actually expresses a heartfelt sentiment. No you are right that it’s not a real poem, but its far more meaningful then your weak attempt at satire. These women feel disappointed in life and see their life reflected in Taylor, who is a living symbol of bourgeois American womanhood, who finally was chosen for marriage. Every (or at least almost every) female child dreams of their marriage since the day they know what marriage is. They don’t dream of a succession of situationships and failed relationships and flings, though perhaps that’s what most of them deserve. The correct attitude to this kind of thing is pity.
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>>24690444
chkd
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>>24690528
that poem is actually goud thoughbeit
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>>24690425
It clearly resonates with a lot of people, it’s extremely corny but it taps into something real: it functions as a vessel for collective fantasy. Its just about validation.

it’s engineered for share ability rather than depth. It’s a screenshot kind of poem. It works because it’s relatable, not because it’s revealing.


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