"High School Girlfriend" editionPrevious: >>24707466/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)Simple guides on writing:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24727030I'm ... but I'm addicted to alcohol... what can I do???
>>24727014The brain exist and functions within the balance of your own biology, exposing youself to sunlight, exercising, and eating right has an enourmous impact on your mental health and is very much able to improve your performance and cure your depression. Theres a milion studies that have succesfully linked mind and body.
>>24727065Addicted is the right word. Good on you for being up front with it. My father is a biologist and has studied pro bono the mechanisms of how alcohol interacts with the body for like 15 years. It's not only mind poison, but, unbeknownst to most people. It produces a proven physiological addiction. Since it's an addition, our only recourse is to treat it as one. Abstinence, 0 leniency, and group therapy. Godspeed anon, love yourself, and I hope in 2 or 3 years, u dont come to look back with hatred for your present self.
is of 'worm' prose a good inspiration for absolute begginer?
>>24723690They all look like shit.
how do you guys keep disciplined with your reading during footballs season?
>>24726112A distraction for cattle.
>>24725255Sports would be infinitely more tolerable if it wasn't 80% commercials.
>>24726460No, I'm not Muslim, I think Sneyking and Cr1t are good players and Cr1t has been playing pro Dota forever and hasn't won a TI and I think he deserves a win, everyone knows he's one of the best position 4 players. I mainly just thought it'd be nice to finally see Cr1t win a TI after trying for so many years, although apparently Ame hasn't ever won a TI before either and he's been around a long time too, so if XG won then that'd be cool because maybe it would make China more interested in Dota and increase the game's player population, idk
>>24726301Yeah, but only your mom's
>>24723783Football is the default interest of normies. Today, people are only mildly cognizant of sports. "Did you see how the false nine's decoy run creates the vertical passing lane for the inverted winger's underlapping run?" Shut the fuck up.
Is a 0.999... inch line the same as a 1 inch line?
>>24727227Off topic, but we give TsundeRies some slack. Yes, it is.
>>24727481It is a Xeno reference.
What are the most Schopenhauerian works of literary fiction? I don't mean "depressing" or "miserable" (that's just a caricature of pessimism), but works that actually reflect Schopenhauer's philosophy:>lucid pessimism>detachment from illusions>moments of transcendence through art (music) or nature>compassion as the highest moral gestureWhich novels or stories would you put in most of these categories?
>>24727409Wagner's dramas are just as much literature as music. Indeed, there's no reason why many libretti shouldn't be considered literature, but especially in the case of Wagner. I know of no other poetry that so brilliantly and beautifully expresses the moment of enlightenment than the unused Schopenhauerian ending to the Ring:>Trauernder Liebe>tiefstes Leiden>schloß die Augen mir auf:>enden sah ich die Welt. –
>>24727427Wagner intended it to be a total work of art, which means that even though his libretti are literature on their own, they are meant to be staged and sung with music. Like I said, not what I'm looking for. In any case, I'm already quite familiar with Wagner.
>>24727297I don't think he knows what he's really talking about
'the joker' by thomas mann, I'd
>>24727473You'd what???
My literary analysis class textbook has a section on feminism and it begins with two and a half pages of based quotes from famous authors.
>>24726029Feminist studies is filled with idiots because it was co-opted by idiots and post-modernists. I think around the time Judith Butler wrote her works, it became so ridiculous that you could write anything in Feminist studies and get a passing grade.In all honestly, feminism in its original form is dead, and the more level headed feminists broke off from it to pursue humanitarianism more broadly.
>>24724890Emerson just gave his thoughts on Austen's works without bringing up her gender, why is that in here?
>>24725154how do you misunderstand this?
>>24725365Why does everyone have to bring up the French all the time here?
>>24726604Where are these level headed feminists except Camile Paglia?
Post /lit/ quotes that you consider to be ironic.
>>24727440You are right where you belong.
>>24727402Based>>24727419Cringe
>>24727419As opposed to a stereotypical person of another nation huh?
>>24727419Twain made it American, Hawthorne and Melville kept things old world, wrote in their style using their ideas and mostly reduced America to plot.
This board feels like arguing with two old lovers stuck in bins while one guy loudly screeches in a chair and pisses himself, and makes as much noise as possible, and everything is dying slowly. Everything is turned grey. And we’re out of pain killers.
>>24727390>/lit/ does not read and makes threads about authorsTrue>/mu/ listens to music and talks about musiciansSlow your roll, friend
>>24727405My roll? Guessing that is some /mu/ism, I don't spend much time there and it has been at least a decade since I have known their memes.
I dunno, guys, I've been on 4chan since 2008 and I don't really feel the desire to leave. I don't even think /lit/ is that bad, really. I'm not bothered by the site, I love this place, it's nice to talk freely without having to have what you say attached to a name or a personality.I'll be here until they shut the site down, and I don't think /lit/ is dead, or dying any time soon.
>>24727416Show me one (1) /lit/ post that of worth
>>24722857>Yeah /lit/ is dying./lit/ isn't dying, the quality of poster is dying. If every board is complaining about this, then it's largely attributable to the newer waves of posters.Young newfags are too angry and have too short an attention span. They don't make for fun or interesting posters.
What is some dark academia literature?
>>24722099goth femboy clique
>>24724086Is that fucking DeS?
>>24725229The body type doesn't matter hugely for this purpose beyond personal preference. Just an athletic girl who is into competitive sports.
>>24722212>The Secret by Donna TarttAbsolutely
R F Kuang’s Katabasis”. Is basically “Dark Academia” mixed with fantasy. The author went to Georgetown, Oxford, Cambridge, and now Yale, so she has experience with “Ivy League” academia. The writing quality is closer to the later Harry Potter books rather than Henry James or Nabokov, although the writing quality may be a bit beyond the later Harry Potter books. There are a lot of references to various Philosophers and Mathematicians, etc., and theories about logic etc.
Tomorrow morning 10:00am BST the Character and Theme requirements of will be released.You will have until Monday 23:59 BST to write and submit. Submit via rentry.co – you can change the url of your submission to your story name to be identified easily. Your writing must reflect the Character and Theme requirements – the character requirement doesn’t have to be your main character and the theme can be creatively interpreted, but those who just ignore it will not be voted for. No word count, but anything over three thousand is most likely going to drag and no one wants to read your novel. To submit, reply in the thread with your rentry.co url using a tripcode (Namefield: Name + “#” + Password).ANONS feel free to submit! We will just use the no.# on the reply to identify your story. If you submit you should leave meaningful feedback for at least two other stories. Put in what you want back. There aren’t many places on this planet to get raw, no filter feedback, and it’s the best way to keep sharp and improve. And let’s not circle-jerk each other. Empty, positive platitudes do NOT count as a critique. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24726406I don't blame him for the level of engagement he got
>>24726520Nothing stopping you from writing a proper critique now. I don’t see what you see in his work at all.
>>24709645>>24725648>Prose with line breaksA poorly executed story that tries to hide from its inanity by pretending to be poetry. Playing with fragmentary sentence structure and retarded anthropomorphizing (“flags in a soil of fear”) would be forgivable if it wasn’t literally stretched thin by retarded formatting. Worst of all, you’re now samefagging in a desperate attempt to get some kind of praise. It was shit, and you know it was shit, and you should feel embarrassed to try and force people to find something nice to say about it.
>>24709234>it wasn’t something whose various bits were lost in the deep black vitreous fluid of my subconscious, and whose frayed and tangled threads I could eventually stitch back together, reconstitute through careful labour.I agree with Heng about your great verbal jets, but you should have cooled them for this sentence.First of all, it’s a sprawling description of what something ISN’T, which is kinda unnecessary.Second, the MC’s internal monologue already sounds like this—>all the strange scabbed flesh, all the gross mycotic difference, is stored on the inside,—so it shouldn’t be coming from Bruce too.Third, this is the 7½th sentence and you’re already hitting the abstraction throttle.Before we don the device and enter the memoryscape, the story should be as concrete and stable as possible.>It gave a sensation a little like realising your phone isn’t in your pocket:Bruce is a journaling mad scientist, divulging his latest invention by the glow of a fireplace.How jarring to hear so COMMON a frustration from him!If this was a longer piece, with more time to develop Bruce, his comparison could gel instead of stick out.A past author wrote an eccentric/evil genius character back in March—meteor’s “Dr. Kittle” was so striking and well-defined that I still remember him (https://rentry.co/y5289rey).>An unsettling impression – like the hard autistic menace you feel when you walk into a pitch-black room.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24726877>samefaggingEh, doubtful. I think if Tik was still lurking he'd thank heng and others for their unadvisedly charitable reads. But maybe there's layers to the art of samefaggery.
I can't keep this to myself anymore. Blood Meridian is an underrated masterpiece and I am tired of pretending otherwise.
>I am tired of pretending otherwiseYes I’m sure it’s soooo exhausting to hide your true feelings about a book, of all things. Melodramatic faggot.
>>24726530>>24726531terrible bait
>>24726688Rude...>>24726721Made you bite, at least.
i forced myself to finish itits only popular becuase people are making tiktok edits out of it since they like anything edginess just like dexter the tv show is booming now, same reason.
>>24727213Dexter is popular because it has a new series. And at least Dexter has an element of goofy that works well with the edge. Cum Meridian is pure edgeslop.
I can read a Harry Potter book in a day, but reading something with a denser style and actual substance takes fucking long, and is exhausting, especially informative or interesting nonfiction. After reading 30 minutes of a book like The Secret Teachings of all Ages, I can continue to read attention-wise, but my brain actually takes in and understands stuff much more slowly, up to the point that its kinda useless to read on.Its better to actually understand what you read, but it makes the process of finishing a book take soooo fucking long.What do?
>>24727395get up, make some tea, read a poem, watch an episode of beavis and butthead, stare out of the window, and after 10 minutes head back to your desk. that's what i do.
>>24727395Talk to someone about what you read, it'll illuminate the depths of the ideas and give you a deeper appreciation and motivation. In ideal circumstances, you'll be able to predict the direction of the book (or provide divergent ideas for comparison) which will make it easier to read. If you dont have a friend, try journaling
I hate this book so much, it is probably the second worst history book I've ever read in my entire life. As one historian said, Howard Zinn went looking for the data that reinforced his conclusion, and ignored everything else. Yet, people look at me sideways when I explain why this book is so bad. When I tell anime fans why I hate this book, I tell them it's like the Chapter Black tape from Yu Yu Hakusho, just the bad shit about America, and nothing else. They understand it. How do I tell normies that this is a Chapter Black book, but not use Chapter Black?
>>24724381A disclaimer that the book was written by a Jew.
When the book came out in the 80s most history books were lacking in nuance and promoted America as a purely positive force. Today Zinn seems like yet another woke jew complaining, which he is, but there didn't use to be so many of them so the book provided some needed counterpoints to the narrative of the era. People who reference anime in conversation deserve to be put to work in coal mines (I say on a Korean glass crafting site)
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>>24724310Anyone that seethes at me producing objectively correct and publicly available information, Or attempts to undermine the observation of said facts through fallacious appeals to triviality can be safely dismissed as bad faith actors.
Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg>Previous:>>24712823>Thread Question:Is historical fantasy generally treated as worse than regular fantasy?
Apparently this is the red rising announcement for tomorrow linked to the book of lorn stuff that was revealed earlier in the week:>The secret project is, based on Hazard Bedlam and related posts, a prequel series called "The Book of Lorn". It will be told episodically in a mixed medium presumably some combo of text, since we have the first page of it, and visuals, since we've seen art from it. Audio to be confirmed. The episodes will be released EXCLUSIVELY on the Lit Escalates Patreon, so membership is required to partake.>There is an epic tradition in Sci-fi of serialized content, and books by the greats like Issac Assimov, Robert Heinlein and Frank Herbert all started their grand lives as serialized short stories via magazines. We want to go back to those roots, and this new secret project is an experiment with that classic format in proper Shit Escalates format. Хoхo -Pierce & Joel"Sounds meh and I'm not subscribing to fucking patreon for it. Just give us red god
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>>24725482It's his best book
>>24726734Nah. They're all slop authors that write and review other slop. They gave a good review for the Orc City book ffs.
>>24726331infamous is my favourite wip..but i hate IF cause authors always milk their fanbases.Why the fuck do thwese IFs take SO.FUCKING.LONG. to release?
Has anyone on here actually read this bullshit?So let me get this straight: he joins Communist Party USA in the 1920s out of his own nihilism and hatred of the world, gets suckered into being a paper boy in the alleged communist underground, then his wife refuses to get an abortion which causes him to change his values entirely and abandon communism only to become a rat for the US government? Am I missing something here?Were Americans in the 1950s really that fucking gullible they can't see how his story is full of holes?
>>24726830I mean, his knowledge of Marxism was terrible and his claims are exaggerated at best.
>>24722209>>24722218There's a book similar and much more comprehensive than this entitled Political Conversion: Personal Transformation as Strategic Public Communication. He goes over Chambers, Podhoretz, and Horowitz in great detail.
>>24722484>>24722487>Her story would have been a lot more compelling had she been a radical anarchist feminist or something before turning right-wing and pro-life.Correct, and also realize her book is amateurish because she wrote it only two years after becoming pro-life. This was before she became Catholic so she wasn't thinking in terms of metaphysics. It's also why the movie features a lot more political polarization than the book, probably because Abby helped write the script and wanted to play up the good vs. evil stuff. In the film everyone who works at the abortion clinic but her is blatantly evil. In the book, she almost gives them the benefit of the doubt and sees the good in them. Shows how her ideology became much more right-wing in the years between the book and the film.
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>>24726685Because saving his daughter from an abortion that the party was forcing his wife to have, and later seeing the mass horrors communism caused in the USSR due to Marxism's extremist materialist philosophy is what woke him up. Commies see people as nothing but a means to an end, not as unique souls with a personal destiny.
Shit rules, my 1975 issue of Penthouse takes on a journey from a at the time contemporary account at the insane resurgence of Scott Joplin, a detail look at how OG pirates & Film Archivists would get their copies of Jaws & Nashville while trying to break into the Technicolor office to steal reels but the FBI stopped them, to an interview with this Israeli author who interviewed Kissinger post the Yom Kippur war & had his book censored by the Israeli government, to a multi page spread of this dimepiece being spread eagle talking about how she loves older Syrian men, to a guide on how to make penises out of arts & crafts supplies, to a ode to 1975 where a guy talks about how he missed the 50s where he'd yell at people that their mom "Pulled their Pork" but now it's just disco kids in sharkskin suits & Nixon fucking with his Hawaii Five-O episodes all next to 12 different cigarette ads..... Where else can you get this shit???? It kicks ass, more people need to read them lmao, it's literally everything you'd want from literature in one place, like sure if you want to just beat it than the mags are obsolete, but I don't even want to beat it as much as I want to read about what people in 1975 had to say about if Lee Harvey Oswald was framed with the occasional photo of a red head in stockings, it's just back to back things that make you say "Sweet".... Shame that this isn't considered respectable literature when I'm pretty sure everyone would prefer to read some MFA Graduates substack on foreign affairs with Nepal if next to it you had a cartoon of a horny wizard, an ad for HiFi equipment, & some chick with a big bush draped in gold & in the nude, it's a flawless formula that makes reading fun compared to Googling "Kissinger interview" & getting a PDF, did I want to read about Kissinger???? No, but I did, & now I'm more intelligent & my reward was the next page the lady had an awesome bush.... There is value in the serendipity of flipping through a 3 page write up on the NSA to then get hit with some cheesecake then go a review of a French film you've never heard of no algorithm can beat that.... It's just Based Reading for guys who have interests in culture to centerfolds of girls from Des Moine & everything in between, plus they'll literally never become useless as no matter what if you ain't got shit going on just have a copy or two on your nightstand, flip to the Penthouse Pet of the Month, say "Awesome" for a minute or two, & then keep it moving, I don't think Proust does that, it's chaotic yet based reading.....
>>24725200didn't read all that shit you wrote but to answer the main question, they do. example, dian hanson has made a whole career about writing histories of men' s magazines etc
>>24725200These rags you pick up--and find there are missing pages. . . and then you make that queezy realization that they were stuck together.
>>24725200Reading old skin mags really is a portal to another world. All old mags are, but the base nature of porno makes them somehow more representative of their eras. Picrel is a comic I saw in an old Penthouse I read online. Also, I appreciate bush.
>>24726696I wish we could bring back magazines. Nobody really knows what they want. I certainly don't. So it's nice to get served up a whole bunch of random stuff.
Rosina Revelle is my favourite pin-up girl
