Have you ever regretted slogging through a book and wasting your time on it?
This book really hurt you
>>24740944Yep. Savage Detectives was a fucking slog, not sure if I want to try 2666
>>24740944Yah, this is probably the most common subject of discussion I have had with readers: how much of a book do you read before you call it quits? Do you finish what you start?
>>24742194I'm a completionist so once I start something I cannot really quit it unless it devolves into the extremes. The book I posted is a 450 pager so I stomached through it, but wouldn't if it was 1.2k words long.The only things I've given up on are various TV series (but mostly on the first episode) and Hitman: Absolution
Have you read dune?
>>24741069I read the first book 4 times and others in the series once. It gets worse with each entry, literally just read the first book.
>>24741069I read it recently for the first time. I thought it was great. I swear, I love stories where scarcity is almost a character in the story.
>>24741069Reading currently So far it's just like based Star Wars
>>24742164Messiah is good too. The rest aren't good even for SF standards
>>24741069yeah, I didn't care for it.
How come so many opera singers have curly hair?
>>24741911Vocal cord vibrations influencing scalp. That’s my theory.
>>24741911Gilbert and Sullivan were opera weiters
>>24741911big if true
>reading physical books in 2025
>>24742289look at the stack and shelves threadspure poseurismit's clear by the spines too that they don't read lmao
E-readers are AIDS-coded. I put all my electronics away after work
>>24742317Just read on your computer
I like reading physical books but I'm pretty poor and half the time I want to read a book I can't find it for under 40 or 50 bucks. I can't afford to spend 300+ dollars a month on books.
I love my Kobo Ellipse
Oswald Spengler believed and wrote in his massive work Decline of the West that every civilization goes through a period where it nucleates into an expansive twilight phase. He believed it was at that point a an ethical-political philosophy which had already appeared in the civilization sometimes centuries earlier becomes popular among the elite. For Rome, this was Stoicism. For the Magian civilization, Islam. In Ancient China, the elite philosophy was Confucianism. He believed this philosophy would be for us, the West, what he referred to as “ethical socialism”. However, he wrote disparagingly about National Socialism and Communism. He did champion what he called Prussian Socialism, which was a form of socialism most appropriate, he thought, for Germany, assuming Germany won the right to decide this elite philosophy which as we all know it did not. He was worried that its main rival “English socialism”, a sort of Billionaires’ socialism would win the day. Well, the English didn’t exactly win the right in his view. The Americans did. So it’s unclear what sort of socialism he would’ve ascribed to the Americans and which sort of socialism is likely to become the elite philosophy of the future in according to his worldview. What do you think?
>>24742253He isn’t fatalistic. In the early chapters of his book he lays out a vision of destiny which is something a set of possibilities laid out any one of which can be met or not met and in a wide variety of ways. The only thing he thinks we can’t escape is the life cycle, but this doesn’t call into question choice. We can’t choose to grow old and die but we still can make choices. This is his fire.
>>24742252Difficult to say exactly because he thought different people had different conceptions of socialism but what they all share in common is that they are angry grand ethical philosophy that basically leaves no stone unturned. It provides an ethical mandate that saturates life, everything from private household ethics to economic and scientific policies to political visions. He saw the main candidates: German socialisms, namely, the Austrian/Bavarian socialism (Nazism) and Prussian socialism, and English socialism, namely Billionaires’ socialism and Marxism. I think it’s important to point out though that Spengler was very much an Anglophobe. He hated the English and the only positive thing he wrote about the English character was that Western civilization was to the point of his death in reality just English civilization.
>>24742252>>24742298To give an example of this, Marxism is not really a mere economic theory but rather a grand ethical philosophy that informs thinking in every subject from politics to economics to education to history, everything. This is what makes socialism socialism in his view. Marxism, he thought though, was the closest to non-socialist capitalism of all the socialisms. He saw it basically as capitalism of the working class masquerading as socialism. > In contrast to Marxism, Spengler claimed that "true socialism" in its German form "does not mean nationalization through expropriation or robbery."[7] Spengler justified this claim by saying:>In general, it is a question not of nominal possession but of the technique of administration. For a slogan’s sake to buy up enterprises immoderately and purposelessly and to turn them over to public administration in the place of the initiative and responsibility of their owners, who must eventually lose all power of supervision—that means the destruction of socialism. The old Prussian idea was to bring under legislative control the formal structure of the whole national productive force, at the same time carefully preserving the right of property and inheritance, and leaving scope for the kind of personal enterprise, talent, energy, and intellect displayed by an experienced chess player, playing within the rules of the game and enjoying that sort of freedom which the very sway of the rule affords….Socialization means the slow transformation—taking centuries to complete—of the worker into an economic functionary, and the employer into a responsible supervisory official.[9]>True socialism according to Spengler would take the form of a corporatism in which "local corporate bodies organized according to the importance of each occupation to the people as a whole; higher representation in stages up to a supreme council of the state; mandates revocable at any time; no organized parties, no professional politicians, no periodic elections."[7]>He also posited that the West will spend the next and last several hundred years of its existence in a state of Caesarian socialism, when all humans will be synergized into a harmonious and happy totality by a dictator, like an orchestra is synergized into a harmonious totality by its conductor.[10]
spengler was proactively, directly, nominally and explicitly refuted by pitirim sorokin
>>24742298But OP said he didn’t like nazism
Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg>Previous:>>24729043>Thread Question:Do you need supplementary material to enjoy books? I'm talking art, music, etc. based on the property? Does it help you visualize what you've read better?
>>24741549Something like Sleeping Beauty trilogy or Merry Gentry series. Spiciness levels vary.
>>24742232I'll never understand how Sun Eater received ANY acclaim.
>>24741645Objectively more deserving of a ritualpost than China Mid-ville
>>24742232This. No word on Red God but Sun Eater 7 drops in November. It's literally finished. Red Rising is fun but hamstrings itself by making every cool worldbuilding element that would've expanded the universe a Core Gold conspiracy. Sun Eater is genuinely sprawling and engrossing.
>>24742232Could not get into it, dropped it partway through the second book.
I miss him so much bros..
>>24741298>>24741979Yes yes but what was his cat's name?
>>24741298What makes people stack so much shit on their main desks, that it gets unusable, then take photos with it? Trying to look busy or sagacious? Cause I'd slap him on the head to put at least half of it away, if not all of it.
>>24742110It's literally impossible to be an active writer without having a pile like that on your desk. You need immediate access to certain information for week or month long periods.
>>24741979why wifes are retarded?
Especially during 2010-2020 it's literally the White Guilt the book
>AAAAA, ARIOCH! MY SNOW WHITE CHEEKS ARE BEING SPREAD BY THIS APE CHIMERA! ARIOCH, AID ME NOW!>Ah, Elric, dearest slave, I see you are having your fill of Theleb K'aarrna. Or more precisely, I might say your filling of the Ape Whose Speed Shall Never Be Spent.>It is so.>Alas, child of chaos, now is not a good time for me. There are queer happenings I must attend to with my fullest attention. Even now you keep me far too long. You shall not have my aid but you have my blessing. Good luck.>Moonglum anchored his brows, giving him the look of bear provoked out of a deep slumber, "Fat help he was."
Oh great. Our daily dose of "Don't Read dis!!"Fuck off, frogposters.
Elric's complex character>Yeah i killed the white race u mad?>nooo i didn't kill him. stormbringer did.>Arioch save me
>>24740639Because Stormbringer
>>24740639need a movie/serial (but if they do so in anno MMXXV it will be woke))
>Writes about himself visiting hell>Curiously, all the people he hates and his politcal rivals are in hell>Writes that Plato and Aristotle, people the founders of western thought are amazed and honored to see him and are like "Wow! The amazing Dante I can't believe its you">Aristotle (appearing from the smoke): “Truly, Dante, you are wise beyond all philosophers.”Dante (hands on hips): “Yes, yes, I know. But why are you here, Aristotle?”>Basically standing there wtth his hands on his hips like "Yes its me, hello. Now Why are you here?" x 50 and dishes out judgementThis retard is fucking hilarious
>>24739841Oh, you always say that.
>>24739350>Another Dante thread by someone who didn't read the poem and doesn't even know what the contents of the latter 2/3rds of the poem are.Yes.
>>24741474Based. Real readers prefer Ariosto
I read Inferno and while it was interesting and entertaining, I don't see why people think it's so great
>>24741660thats the problem with people who only read the inferno (mostly in prose) as if it was pulp horror fiction i would be embarassed to confess ive read the inferno only
Post your own work and critique others.
When you post so much that people don't even respond to you so agreeably so the only thing that really gets you going is ragebait and your own personality
>>24740920Loan out a prosody from the local university library. You've got work to do. It's free verse but also doggerel! >A full moon appeared tonightx / / x/ x/>It really was an enamoring sightx / x x x x// />The stars, they sparkled with such dazzling lightx / x / x / /x />yet none could compare to that which was most brightx / x x/ x x / x / />in this beautiful, beautiful, gorgeous night/ x /x/ /x/ x/ />as it filled itself with what I perceived as delightx x / x/ x / x x/ x x/Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I once did meet a golden-haired angela soul so kind, her eyes so crystal bright her shining smile did hollow point my heartI once did love a golden-haired angelevery day when prayin' to God, her name I sangbut life did show me, love's a lie; I mourn'dI once did meet a flaming-haired angel
>Trying to write something more meaty>Seem to always just default back to iambic/ limeric even when I don't want toI can't help myself.
>>24741624>>24741621Thanks. I like mine better thoever
Is there really any difference between spending 2 hours reading a great book vs 2 hours reading a shit book vs 2 hours watching a movie vs 2 hours watching TV vs 2 hours scrolling? Any way you're just killing time, not really accomplishing anything.
>>24736099Why is that scrawny homosexual wearing XXXL clothing?
I like threads like this because they're not about specific books, so I don't feel left out because I don't understand the context of what everyone else is saying.
>>24736172i mean you don't have to do anything, but doing nothing, or not thinking critically about the material you consume only hurts youyou will thank yourself in the future for bettering yourself and making use of your timeor you can remain ignorant, not care, and not learn anythingbut no one else really cares what you do, except you
>>24736172You're right, for you specifically there is no difference.
>>24736145Me
It's not friend / enemy, it's enemy / (temporary) ally. This is Machiavelli's metaphysics, a step further, grounded and detached. Discuss.
>>24742255Nothing in Schmitt's theory contradicts what you're saying.
>>24742263it does. there are no friends, there are allies.
>>24742276What the fuck do you think Schmitt means by friend?
>>24742276https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amicitia
>>24742280A friend is specified by sovereign which includes no anymosity. An alliance is something that both parties agree on. Two parties that are inherently at conflict.
What are some genuinely fun books
>>24740922Catch-22>>24741071They're not exactly laugh out loud funny but they're incredibly entertaining if you enjoy assholes and general banditry.
>>24740922Gargantua and PantagruelDangerous LiaisonsThe Count of Monte CristoBouvard and PécuchetExercises in StyleLife: A User's Manual
>>24742182>Bouvard and PécuchetSounds fun. Which translation would you recommend?
>>24742090Very true and why I recommended Mason & Dixon
>>24741725>turned into a lolcow and BAWWleted everythingsours the memory
Post a movie and get a book recommendation.I'll start.
>>24741518The killers - hemingway
>>24732816Love Exposure
>>24742296Confessions by St. Augustine
We live in the ruins of the baroque culture
>>24742220I find this hard to believeThe ruins of the baroque should be a sight more beautiful than this
I don't know, the game filtered me almost immediately
