So all his books are just complaints about women and how he can't fuck because he's old and how much better things were in the past?He seems to love self-loathing but offers no solutions for the future.
>>24742394I'm not asking for consensus, I'm asking for personal opinions of anons that frequent /lit/I was asking, because I didn't read it in its time. I'm reading it now. So some things that may seem common now may have been innovated then. And also because I like having one or more paradigms of viewing it to lay aside the work as I'm going through it and see if I agree or come away with something completely different. This extra layer enhances the experience for me, which is why I asked for it. It's fine if you don't want to help me with what I'm asking for, but it is presumptuous that you think you know better how to enhance my experience than I would myself.
>>24742426>justifying the terrible epidemic of cognitive outsourcingwhatever
>>24742426>>24742433to be clear i understand what you're saying. my issue is that you havent finished the novel. you have a unique position that you can not get back, of being uninfluenced
>>24742435>>24742433I think it's an illusion anyways. We are always influenced. We have a reason to pick up the book. Right now I'm reading it while hungry, while going through a lot of family health stuff, while having gone through a bad break-up. While having an interest in finishing up my backlog of books so I'll have room for some new directions in reading.You think my experience of the novel would be uninfluenced? Then if I read the same thing again in 20 years, I might be fully committed to being a bachelor or I might be in a long term relationship and have a completely different read and experience of it. The exact composition of our lives and perception always influences it anyways.I get that you don't want people to all walk the same path and parrot the same things, but that's not what I do anyways.I'm interested in hearing other's experiences because I want to reflect on them, test them, possibly even disprove some hypotheses.Another example is that I spent years working on shakespeare plays. Just because you know how it's going to go, doesn't mean it isn't a fresh experience every time. Of course it's with different people and different interpretations of the work, but with books too, you're a different person each time you read a book.So, who had a good experience reading atomised? When did you read it? What was special about it?
>>24742510Hello there. I like the book. I read it about a year ago. >What was special about it?This is pretty much the only contemporary book novel I have read, so I can't compare it others and say what is special about it. But I think he shows a good understanding of the modern society. A few parts were pretty boring (all the talk about the childhood and the fucking in the camp) and I didn't really understand where he was going with this. But reading it completely kind of closes the circle. But still not really. Something still feels eerie but I can't put my finger around it. The critique of aftermath of the protests of 1968, the talk about Huxley in that one chapter and the ending probably kind of made the book special for me. This book has a little similarity in some sense with the reading experience to Kafka The Trial. Reading The Trial itself was incredibly boring. But when I finished it and looked back at it, it kind of felt like a masterpiece. I am not saying that atomised is a masterpiece and comes close to Kafkas. But looking back at it it was worth the read. Motivated me to read more of him.
Post a movie and get a book recommendation.I'll start.
>>24732816Love Exposure
>>24742296Confessions by St. Augustine
>>24732816Here's another one
Then wouldn't you want as many Christians as possible to die then? To speed up conversion and save souls?
>>24741590No you'd want as many to be born as possible. Death is contingent on birth not the other way around. Religions are not death cults they're fertility cults. Just another standard survival mechanism.
>>24741590If Christianity were true, the best thing that could possibly happen to you would be to die immediately after baptism.
>>24741590Christianity is at its core a masochistic death cult. Martyrs were obnoxious faggots doing everything they could to rouse and bait authorities into torturing and unaliving them in the most gruesome way possible so they could satisfy their raging hard-on. Jesus came on the cross.
>>24742115This post is irrefutable, absolute trvke
>>24741678> KJV swapping out "forgive them their debts" for "forgive them their trespasses" etc.Where did it do that? Chapter and verse please
What are some books that explain this problem.
>>24742350The conflation allows them to condemn private property, which they covet from others. This is the biggest flaw of many people who advocate for more collectivist means, as they will come up with very flowery excuses for why other people do not deserve what they have come to possess.These explanations usually result in seizure of property by force, with optional violence in the execution of the seizure. Othering an enemy makes it easier to kill them. It's why Soviet peasants supported the attacks on Kulaks, who had more in common with them than the guys lining Kulaks up against the wall and shooting them.
>>24742371You can be a critic of capitalism without being against private property. But that doesn't matter because modern capitalism is a fucking collectivist ideology. Modern corporations have more power than nation-states and rule over seas of lands, give shitty wages to people, receive constant handouts from the state aka taxpayers and expropriate private property from others to form monopolies. All the money goes to a bunch of nepobabies at the top. This is no different from the commissars in the USRR stealing shit for themselves.
>>24742416And the solution is to dissolve the corporate structure, not capitalism. Capitalism good, corporations bad because you can't even just sue the guy who owns it to make them stop being faggots.
>>24742456Capitalism was ALWAYS like that, naive kid. Take a history book and read about the industrial revolution. They only stopped for a while because people revolted and started to BOMB shit. There's 0 reason to defend it even if you're not a raging communist.
>>24742527Yeah, I'm good. I'll take having food on the shelf to buy, Mikhail. Communism and Socialism always lead to starving to death.
So in the chapter where he discusses free will Hume insists that the whole debate has basically been over terms and in actuality we all more or less understand compitibilist views to be true.So to prove this point he goes into human nature and bla bla bla but eventually provides an example that I found really appropriate to his argument: When an artificer goes to the market to sell his clocks, he knows people will be willing to buy them if he offers them at a good price. And he knows that with that money he will be able to find a farmer or butcher or w/e to buy his own necessities. How could he make those assumptions if indeed free will was truly random up to unknowable whims and nothing of human action could be predicted? But at the same time he knows and understands that those people chose their livelihoods and shopping preferences in the same way he does. Thus it is self-evident that human beings have an internalised understanding of compatibilism, that both necessity and liberty guide human action, and that the dispute over this subject is one over terms essentially that has devolved into "a labyrinth of obscure sophistry".
>>24742469Thank you. Even Aquinas agreed
LolIn the 2nd part he goes over another counter-argument people often levy against this stance and that is if all human actions are determinate from previous causes then isn't the chain of causality gonna lead all the way back to big G and that is impossible since He is supposed to be all-good and perfect?Hume's response?A single paragraph where he goes "oof yeah you know this is actually a really solid point but umm you know we can't question divinity and the explanations for such seemingly paradoxical things is beyond philosophy and uhh wow God works in such mysterious ways!"
I'm excited, are you?
>>24742368Low quality b8
>>24742376Low quality meme, NSA.
>>24742368Chomsky is literally on the verge of fucking dying, why should I listen to him of all people on this subject?
>>24742368>wants to build a new world>all the things he wants in that new world are the same things that exist now
>>24742472would you prefer to listen to an infant?
well that sucked
>>24742285Really liked Brat, hated the Novelist, haven't read My First Book.
Seems like all the dimes square catholic revival guys trying to breathe life into the novel just end up doing the same autofiction slop millennial women have been writing for a decadeNo, i haven’t read any of them
>>24742285Haven't read Brat or The Novelist but I liked My First Book better than Muscle Man.
Of what I’ve read: Brat > Paradise Logic > My First Book > The Novelist
>>24742523>>24742504>>24742285Is there really any comparison between these four novels? Brat and Novelist, sure, at least in subject (young guys struggling to write novels), but the intent and approach seem pretty different; these are the two I've read. Then Paradise Logic and My First Book are full of modern lingo, and I don't know more than that.
I went on a date with a girl and we talked about books. She briefly mentioned reading Catcher in the Rye in school among other novels. I chimed in with how I liked Catcher in the Rye and empathized with Holden. She responded by saying that people who like Holden are emotionally stunted.
>>24742458Nice headcanon, chuddie.
>>24742458>She responded by saying that people who like Holden are emotionally stunted.not a lie. but at the same time the majority of people today are emotionally stunted, it's just that men and women show that in different ways
>>24742458Women will literally watch five Instagram reels and convince themselves they need to inject botox/remove buccal fat/starve themselves/engorge themselves/attach a meat penis/embark on a career/defend "refugees"
>>24742520you’re definitely fried by your algorithm
>>24742520Kek this
Have you read dune?
>>24741069yeah, I didn't care for it.
>>24742287like the John Carter books, Dune does suffer from having inspired now ubiquitous rip offs. By the time you get to Children of Dune the number of things Lucas stole gets unconscionable
>>24741069The first book was ok but I got filtered by Messiah.
>>24741069Only read the first one, liked it, got told the rest is just not worth it, is it true /lit/?
>>24741069I read the first two books but things got too weird.
Why do you read? Be honest.
>>24741918unironically high iq depending on which books
>>24741918i just watch streams like why you be readin besides chat
>>24741836.t It was confusing listening to people who don't read. So I read and stopped listening to people.
>>24738911to get pussy
>>24738911I ran out of video games and manga so I have to read books
I miss him so much bros..
>>24741979>Mishima with his catboy (Assahigraph, 12 May 1948 issue). He was known as a boy-lover. Yoko (his wife) was jealous of his pet boy, and disliked him petting him.
>>24742335It's tongue-in-cheek.
>>24741344>Only thing that would've made that story better would be if the commander they'd taken hostage stood up and said "quit getting blood all over my office dammit gimme that" and takes his head off with one clean stroke.Yeah but what if the commander was a poc woman and it's not a samurai sword it's like uh a lightsaber and earlier in the movie Mishima made some misogynistic comment about her shoes and makeup that would be totally EPIC.
>>24742021It says it in the image "Asahigraph, 12 May 1948 issue". Weird name.
>>24741298How can you miss him when (most likely) he died before you were born?
>His Principia Mathematica side hustle imploded. Gödel the God-fearing Christian ruined it.>He had epistemological trolls that any atheist Reddit neckbeard could have come up with and that were less sophisticated than those of Sextus Empiricus and Hume.>His theory of descriptions was completely unnecessary, a midwit answer to something only midwits see as a problem ("[Meinong] argued, if you say that the golden mountain does not exist, it is obvious that there is something that you are saying does not exist -- namely the golden mountain; therefore the golden mountain must subsist in some shadowy Platonic world of being, for otherwise your statement that the golden mountain does not exist would have no meaning. I confess that, until I hit upon the theory of descriptions, this argument seemed to me convincing.")>Even his stupid paradox in naive set theory that bears his name had been prefigured elsewhere in letters from Zermelo.>Continental scholars routinely demonstrated his misunderstandings of Continental philosophers, toward whom he had emotional, Anglocuck revulsions unbecoming of a thinker.
Take the Deism pill, discover>True Theology
>>24738601Check out aarvoll. His conception of Christianity might be more palatable for you and open your mind. He's mostly just a Platonist but he realizes that the incarnation is essential.
>>24734677>Russellian Monism>Epistemic Structural RealismYou're just not ready for Esoteric Russellianism.
>>24739730>You can't think in a genuinely unusual way about reality using plain language>you make the same vague, pseud objections as any other 15 year old on this site.You will eventually grow up
>For two or three years...I was a Hegelian. I remember the exact moment during my fourth year [in 1894] when I became one. I had gone out to buy a tin of tobacco, and was going back with it along Trinity Lane, when I suddenly threw it up in the air and exclaimed: "Great God in Boots! – the ontological argument is sound!"
What are some genuinely fun books
Three men in a boat WiltConfederacy of duncesNotes from the underground Oblomov
>>24740933>Anything by Wodehouse>Anything by SwartzwelderYou and me are on the same page.
>>24741920I'm a Psmith In The City man, myself
maybe it's just me but I find Dead Souls very funny, even more so on reread
>>24740922I love The Pickwick Papers by Dickens. Simply a fun read.
This book is dogshit. Complaining about the mediocrity of the art establishment is something; but if you do, don't be even more mediocre than them. Just name drops imageboard and memes for nothing, the style is annoying. Could've been worse, it's just a bit more mediocre than the lib art culture it makes fun of throughout the whole book
Woolston bros...
>>24740124We will get our review. In this life or the next.
>>24728950Bumping for the Woolston Review
barry u plonker lets ave it
oi back with me ass on the bench this arvowife says she's done with my sorry ass boyssays nobody reads me damn booksAaron mate you gotta come through
Fiction book about extra dimensional and experiencing spiritual journey such as the spirit leaves the body (death,etc)
>>24740590Forgot caffeine inducing anxiety looping
>>24739972>Extreme narcissist remains narcissistic Many such cases
>>24739876>>24739914A bad trip on LSD fucked my life up for literally a decade. I took it on a dime in senior year and had brainfog, intrusive thoughts and hallucinations for a decade after.Tried every religion and cope you could think of, nothing solved it expect multiple long silent and difficult buddhist meditation retreats.
>>24739941DAE think it's suspicious that the anecdote-teller is always involved in his anecdotes? Seems improbable.
Try overdosing.