I don't get the hype. It seems to just be a book about some autist going around and scoring various shades of poontang. What the hell is going on in this book?
>>24977041I also thought it was boring and pointless. You are not alone.
>>24977041I'm glad this book filters retards. There's an alternative reality where this shit gets a netflix series and I blow my brains out
>"...being no stranger to the time honoured routine men have had to sit through since the world has been the world, listening to desirable women banging on about their love life history in hopes however remote of some payoff in the cheerfully jangling currency of present tense whoopee."I love Pynchon, he's so funny even if the book as a whole isn't mindblowing
This is a good first Pynchon
>>24976322Why is everything about cucklodry
>>24977049In the immortal words of Patrice O’Neal, “ you’re never gonna find a woman whose hymen ain’t broke.” If you view a girl having any kind of romantic past as cuckoldry, the odds are you and everyone you know are gonna settle down into cuckoldry. I don’t like it either but that’s life.
Why didn't they just stop waiting and go straight to Godot?
>>24975510That's one of the grimmest things I've ever read.
I just got back from the Broadway show starring Neo and that other guy from Bill & Ted. I thought it was funny how shamelessly they referenced Bill & Ted throughout the show. Just not "ha ha" funny.
>>24976176Unironically more impactful than the play itself
>>24975495>They were also responding to the likes of BrechtMust have been a shitty time for theater when your choices were Beckett and Brecht
The bulk of western fantasy (yes even today) is based on Christian philosophy, or its bastard child humanism. Good and evil, sin and redemption, sacrifice, justice, moral character arcs, etc.The remaining works that aren't, are largely based on some flavor of nihilism or existentialism. There's nothing wrong with this, but I want something fresh. Off the top of my head the only western fantasy series that isn't really based on the above is the Earthsea series.
>>24974327So what happened when Cronus overthrew Uranus? Did the world end? No. Odin is going to die too without taking the world with him. These are the two most popular mythologies after Abrahamic religions.
>>24972027A Wizard of Earthsea
>>24976453An allegory that reflects some moral principle embedded in reality also reflects the mind of God.
>>24972214Read more.
>>24974327Why is this kind of prose ok when Tolkien does it, but not McCarthy?
Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
Poetry is gay. Everyone who likes poetry is gay. Everyone who writes poetry is gay. You're all gay.
>>24976614I'm actually gay how did you know?
And I must bend, and bend again, to meet it,feeling the pulse of earth beneath my feet,the mountains moving inside my chest,their ancient songs echoing through my bones,while the psilocybin loosens the hinges of the world,light sliding like a river inside a dropthat refused to fall,each pulse of colour singing through my veins,the air thick with messages,the ground remembering my name.
AshiIndi tohtAndi staihdThrym
Ushh, flishhh. A beh…so.Boom, boom, … uhm. Trash? Ahi ahi – wah. Rupiterol. A bitFlushhh…tsssss. Ts. Tap.Corazon, dios mio. Aufff…BLARG!Shhh, a second
>>24976777Based 7's. Read it two years ago about this time, my favorite work by him. Yet to read Age of Louis xiv, however
Privacy by Danielle Chelosky (new story!)>A folder on her laptop held the stories she was not allowed to publish. One boy forbade her because there was an entire paragraph about his dick size (it was complimentary, she didn’t understand the problem). Another was worried his girlfriend would end up finding it. Another said he would cancel her for invasion of privacy. >These were rare instances. Mostly boys were flattered, considered it an ego boost, no matter how they were portrayed. People in general liked to be immortalized. In a way, she resented their narcissism, like they couldn’t appreciate what she’d written because they were just staring at themselves.>The truth was whatever reaction the boys offered was not what she wanted, even if they lavished her with praise, called her a genius, it was never enough. She thought of writing as not just a plea to be seen but a plea to be loved. It never seemed to have the effect that she yearned for, probably because it was impossible. Maybe, she thought, if she killed herself then her words would take on a new, heavier meaning.>She used to think that a boy being mad about a story she’d written about him meant the writing had done its job. It touched a nerve; it was controversial and had a direct impact on real life. Then she decided that mindset was banal, stupid. She thought her writing was at its weakest when it was a weapon.>On the internet she stalked a writer she had once done a literary reading with. During the reading he had spoken candidly about his sex addiction, and his girlfriend at the time stomped off. Now he was dating a different writer and they were constantly writing about their relationship, hosting readings where they read about each other with each other, publishing the history of their love in glossy magazines that paid by the word. She felt put off by this masturbatory spectacle. Like she couldn’t imagine anyone caring about it or finding it as anything other than insufferable. She wondered how one could make interesting art if they viewed their life as a project—then isn’t the project about the project, not about life?
>>24962028Why would releasing a log of her sex life be 'committing herself to art'? Who would read that...Who the hell cares. Women should write about something other than sex, jesus fucking christ.Such narcissism.
>>24975472Sorry chud, but women have been forced into silence by the patriarchy for too long. Shut up and listen. A women is speaking. What she is saying is unfathomably wise, wiser than any man's prattlings.
>shaved pitsWaste of a thread
DANIELLE'S TWITTER GOT DELETEDHOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO GET PICS OF DANIELLE NOW?
>>24977019I‘m glad you‘re miserable over this.
I have heard that the Neoplatonists taught the Platonic dialogues in a particular order, but I cannot seem to find any information on said order or anything else there pertaining to.
>>24976428The primary ancient source for the specific curriculum/reading order of Plato’s dialogues attributed to Iamblichus is not found directly in the extant works of Iamblichus himself, but in a later text known as the Anonymous Prolegomena to Platonic Philosophy, a late ancient (6th-century CE) introduction to Plato’s works that preserves this tradition. Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy+1 Key Source for Iamblichus’s Platonic CurriculumAnonymous Prolegomena to Platonic PhilosophyThis is a late antique, anonymous Greek text (often attributed to a sixth-century Neoplatonist in the school of Olympiodorus the Younger) that preserves the reading order of Plato’s dialogues ascribed to Iamblichus. Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy+1In this text (chapter 26 in the edition of Leendert G. Westerink), a list of twelve Platonic dialogues is given, described as offering a systematic overview of Plato’s philosophy — a canonical curriculum rooted in Iamblichus’s teaching tradition. Stanford Encyclopedia of PhilosophyComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24976428The curricula actually vary a bit, but the AI slop here >>24976457 is mostly right.The thing is, you're supposed to have run through the Aristotleian corpus before the first Platonic dialogue. Things like Porphyry's Isogogue and commentaries on Aristotle might be consulted around this point. The Prolegomena would often be read first though.However, from what I've seen the Philebus is often last.
They also thought you should read all of Aristotle first
>>24976851this kills the average /lit/ user
>>24976851>>24976840>starting with the sequel first
God I wish I was Icelandic.
>>24970661And gay !
>>24976948>europe doesn't have wealth the cope is unreal
>>24970659I have heard that Icelandish bitches give up the pussy quite easily and freely. Always wondered if that is true.
>>24977047yes. but not to you
>>24970659>Inceldur brought Finnegans Wake to Jobalocoffee again
Is there a point in reading classical works about formal sciences and natural sciences? I'm looking at western canon lists and there's stuff like Euclid, Archimedes, Hippocrates, Copernicus, Newton, etc., but I don't get why people other than historians should bother with all of this. It's mostly outdated and any school textbook seems like a better choice.
>>24975863>>24975875Non-shitpost response: the treaty is mainly centered on the kidneys as Asclepiades of Bithynia taught that urine is actually a gaseous vapor inside the body and the atoms rearrange as urine in the bladder meaning the kidneys serve no purpose at all in his schema which Galen refutes
Whats a good history of science besides picrel?
>>24976619that one is no good
Berkeley's critique of Newton's Calculus is highly relevant and a joy to read. Should get taught in history as well.
>>24973077>Is there a point in reading classical works about formal sciences and natural sciences?It's fun
How should I react if somebody told me that my writing is shit?
>>24976392>>24976403it's not critics responsibility to tell you how you can improve, as an artist you have to figure it out and usually by yourself
>>24976360Being a frog poster, you react like you do to most everything, you make a thread about it on /lit/.
>>24976914Yea I bet you’re quite the artist
>>24976360My trick is to tell them that they're wrong and then secretly implement their advice.
>>24976360start writing stories about actual shit so that your writing quality matches the content
what was the best book you read this year?
>>24971290and quiet flows the don. (I'm reading it rn)
>>24976731It's a real travelogue, but it reads in places like a shitpost. Part of his standard travel pack apparently includes 'blue pills' -mercury and sugar- as a syphilis treatment. I'll cop to skimming parts of it where he described the individual churches in each monastery. The author, Athelstan Riley, a son of a stupidly wealthy railway speculator - has his job listed as 'hymn translator'. It's a fun read and online.
>>24976878Thanks man maybe I’ll check it out
It's a skit.
Pic rel without a doubt.>>24972978John Hawkes is fantastic and deserves more love.
How many books did you read this year?
As someone whose 2nd main hobby is language learning I respect reading slopGood for her
>>24976854Why not shoehorn another novella into 2025?
>>24976150Hoooooooooott.
>>24976870I mean I guess I could read all of Metamorphoses?
>>24976530Yes. You’ll either love it or hate it. It’s not for someone looking for The Exorcist pt. 2. The cases become increasingly hard to believe, and concerned with theology / christology. There’s only one “occultist gets possessed” case. The rest of them concern dogma. The conclusion is either “this whole thing is horseshit” or “Only because of God’s Mercy there are not billions of possessed people right now.”
Why is poetry less popular now than it's ever been? And why are people so bad at pronouncing poetry? I've seen poetry professors read poetry as if it was prose and without a hint of self-awareness.
>>24974465Honest answer, it feels heavily moderated, probably a symptom of the time. Its just sickly and fake feeling. Here is an example.O, Wert Thou in the Cauld BlastO, wert thou in the cauld blastOn yonder lea, on yonder lea,My plaidie to the angry airt,I’d shelter thee, I’d shelter thee.Or did Misfortune’s bitter stormsAround thee blaw, around thee blaw,Thy bield should be my bosom,To share it a’, to share it a’Or were I in the wildest waste,Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24974465>Why is poetry less popular now than it's ever been?Because it's never been easier to add fitting music to it to create a song instead. Songwriting > poetry
>>24976804Music was always used for great poetry, Schubert composed over 600 pieces specifically for poems. But the music was far better then and so was the poetry.
>>24974465Post a poem of heroic virtues. No whining, no yearning, pure He-Man shit.
The Marshall Mathers LP is high art and fits poetry. Remember original classic poetry had a beat and rythm attached to it.
What's your favourite budget publisher? For me it's Arcturus. Their books are dirt cheap and often come with tasteful, bright designs, with a wide selection of classics.
>>24976810Dover
