When getting into a writer, I try to get as much primary and secondary material as I can to fully understand their work. Do you do the same?
>>24977317No. The only thing that matters is the book.
>>24977317Only a website of full retards would think they know more than academics who have spent their entire lives studying an author and his time. OP’s strategy is the correct one. In fact only after reading secondary sources should someone even comment after all why would anybody want to hear something you think is original but has been written about for years.
>>24977581Are you reading literature or larping as an academic?
>>24977317This is based as fuck, and what all my professors do anyway. Not to this extent, as none of them are like specific philosopher specialists but instead topic specialists. Had one professor that had multiple hegel books, sartre, heidegger etc but they also had the entirety of Hegel in German along with a bunch of secondary lit on heidegger and Hegel.So this is a totally normal practice, although I'd say X specialists will have even more secondary lit on that specialty than just a Metaphysics guy or whatever.
>>24977587I have no connection to academia. But it’s definitely an American custom to lack respect for authority. There is a lot of scepticism about Covid, global warming etc.. Even Protestants are essentially people who thought they knew better than the “experts” who had been carrying Christianity for over a millennium. So on an American board already pre disposed to outcasts and conspiracy theorist types it’s only natural to think that the primary source is all that matters. IMO these people are retards because how could you think you know more. Narcissistic yet funny. I read about 100 books a year. My recommendation :1. Read source and use AI for questions about plot or confusing points. (Like I’m reading Pedro Paramo but the Spanish names don’t stick in my head and I lose track of the baby mamas). AI can help ads some context especially if you’re unfamiliar with the time and setting. 2. Now if you want to learn more than start looking at biographies, JSTOR; academic literature, influences of the author etc…3. If you really like the work then read others by the author or reread and you’ll appreciate so much more. 4. Repeat step 2Like an onion you’ll keep peeling back layers and learning more. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>Average book length in 2025: 340 pagesHow did you do?
>>24976137heh
>>24977272What is the worst that could happen? On an unrelated note, some weirdo is shouting about "starting with the greeks" outside my door, be right back.
I didn't read anything this summer. There was too much to do.
>>24977558the The Book Leo?
People count all the pages they read? I guess when you're severely autistic / ADHD you gotta do what you gotta do to stay focused on reading.
Renaissance edition>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·>>24914151>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw>Mέγα τὸ ANE·https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg>Work in progress FAQhttps://rentry dot co/n8nrkoAll Classical languages are welcome.
>>24977362Any money is too much for one ebook imho. Especially in Latin/Greek.
>>24977362This can be done manually with Eulexis and Collatinus
>>24956717Has anyone else here ever started learning a new language and felt a very strange and subtle almost "psychedelic" feeling as the wires of their brain began crossing in new ways? Reminds me very much of this anecdote from a book about improv I came across. I haven't tested it myself, but I have a hunch that the more you lean into "drifting at sea" with the new language through immediate immersion, the stronger this feeling will be. Maybe someone here who's done LLPSI or studied abroad knows what I mean.
>>24977578Yes absolutely.
>>24977362There were a few Aesops on the page I linked, if that's what you're interested in.
I know it's hardly 'literature', but my nostalgia has hit me hard this Holiday season and instead of working on my Fiction/Non-Fiction book list I just want to cozy up and go through these books. I ordered the first four, and I remember growing up loving this one the most. I thought it was the best one. Was I right?
I just want to learn what's so appealing this genre
>>24976992>pathology due to the patriarchy.Bait.
>>24976970Thanks. I'll check those out
>>24976978Ok but any recommendations? Since you are being so defensive I reckon you've read quite a few.
>>24977089Fight/flight is the same instinct of fear and if you have ever had sex and the woman wants you to hit her or choke her then you know she wants you to fuck her violently. Rape is an act of violence and in a way is driven by an impulse similar to what makes a savage hack someone to pieces and eat him
>>24976052If you want to learn what's appealing about dark romance I recommend reading A Billion Wicked Thoughts.The only book you'll ever need to get a grasp of female sexuality.
English is such a shit language. For me the nail in the coffin for English was when I learned that the problem of ambiguity between argument and explanation, where all you have to disambiguate is context, which they talk about in logic books, is not something which is universal in logic, but rather is a problem of English. Other languages don't have this problem. English is a low IQ language. All it's good for is dumbing down the masses.
>>24976976>>24977546(2/2)Returning to your example sentences, I'm going to take a couple words in the German to illustrate something. This isn't make or break, as it provides only a subjective insight into what I tale from it, but I hope it gives you a flavour of what I'm on about. The word 'genommen' to me, trying insofar as it's possible to ignore what I can infer on the basis of my newfound, low-level familiarity with the tongue, makes me think of the word 'name', but also, given the English sentence, 'nom', as in 'nom-nom! how tasty!' The word 'gnome' also comes to mind, along with 'genome'. None of this would help me infer what it actually means. Or take 'verstand', much less clear than 'comprenait'; or 'bedeutete' which pales compared to 'signifiait'. Anyway, if you can't tell, I love thinking about this sort of thing, so cheers for the stimulation.
>>24969246So it's true, you really CAN'T learn Japanese...
>>24965277I speak 3 languages natively (Portuguese, German and English. Thanks, mixed nationality parents) and I genuinely never "felt" any difference between the languages in terms of how effectively they convey information.
>>24965277Then how come Chaucer, Shakespeare, Milton, Donne, Burke, Dickens, Tennyson, Dickinson, Conrad, Fitzgerald . . . wrote in English and not dungslinger sh*thole-speak?Go back to that awful place you pine for, please!
>ugh English is so bad!Then why does everybody use it?
>Lift weights, get in shape, become strong, drink RAW milk>Stop oversocializing, treat time as gold & use it to>Get a Skill>Speak ill of no Man so you can prevent social friction>Separate yourself from Outcomes and stop feeling sorry for yourself>Find a Mentor who can pass you down knowledge>Stack the money and avoid chasing after lavish products and consumerism>Learn how to leverage debt in your favor by DebtmaxxxingIs there a single self-help book with better advice than this?
>>24977583>>24977586cringe samefag retardalso wtf is "debtmaxxing"?
>>24977600its the same as goymaxxing
Ecelebfags don't go to heaven
>>24977583>repackage ancient wisdom to virgin chuds>make immense profitMany such cases
>>24977583this is the kind of shit that you father would tell youand the mandatory "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" or somethingI really never undestood the appeal of self help literature, you have probably heard this shit somewhere else, all of them are ultimately saying the same thingsI think a separate category should be given to self-help books on how to get things done, dude you are reading a 1k page book instead of literally just doing whatever it is that needs to be done
I've never personally found any argument against suicide that really convinces me. The more philosophy I read, the more many common objections seem based on instinct or emotion rather than careful reasoning. When people call suicide "murder" or "unnatural" they often ignore that a right to life should also include the right to give it up, and that nature itself isn't a moral authority. If it were, we wouldn't use medicine to prevent or delay natural deaths. The claim that suicide is selfish also feels very one-sided. It can just as easily be seen as selfish to expect someone to keep living with unbearable mental or physical suffering simply so others don't have to feel grief. None of us chose to be born, and being stuck in a life that has become intolerable is a tragedy, not a moral failure. I think society has a strong optimism bias that makes people assume life is better than it really is for everyone. When someone experiences life mainly as a heavy burden, ending their life can be a rational way to take back control over something they never chose.
>>24977391the devils greatest trick is getting you to believe he doesn't existnot sure if theres anything I can say to convince you of hell, some people just need to see to believe, tho when you get there you have no chance of escape, that will be your eternal home (if you dont repent and believe in Jesus before death)hell isnt a place where all the cool people go, there will be no comradery, youd be too busy being tormented beyond imaginationall I can say is that to demons it doesn't matter how you die, suicide, war, murder, doesn't matter they just want you deadthe hatred that demons have for us is beyond comprehension, while were on this earth they want you to think they dont exist / their your friend so they can lead you astray by any method possible, very sad that most people no longer see or learn the truth of the spiritual realmlove you :^)
>>24976419The older I get the gayer posts like this become. Do you legitimately view your question as intellectually significant? Protip - You have every reason in the world to kill yourself, and that’s the single greatest piece of evidence we have to prove humans are not logical creatures. Go drink, get laid, do drugs and sin so you can learn a little more about yourself and the by association your fellow humans.
>>24976419Mfr this was beutifully written, anon. Pls write a short story before you killyourself
>>24976441this is not true by the way. It's just spiritual sociopathy.Your God is false, and if he were real, the only moral response would be to reject such an arbitrary and cruel being.
>>24977391If Hell were real, the answer is not to grovel and scrape so that you don't get tormented.The answer is to hold fast to your moral core in the face of such an evil system.
Why is poetry less popular now than it's ever been? And why are people so bad at pronouncing poetry? I've seen poetry professors read poetry as if it was prose and without a hint of self-awareness.
>>24976666Not just that, there's the problem of modern values/ beliefs/ ideologies/ whatever the fuck one wants to call them. Consider, outside of poetry, Flaubert's Salammbo with Madame Bovary. Salammbo was the work he wanted to be remembered for, a work wherein heroism is actual, men are men instead of actors playing a social role, religious belief is substantial and not reducible to being effectively a team sport, while Madame Bovary is at bottom a complaint about the world that won't match up to Salammbo. The preference for the latter over the former is a sign of how unbelievable the former is. Even the Iliad and Odyssey are read just as plot pieces and judged according to how effectively a translator can make them feel like a Marvel movie to a reader. The problem with modern poetry is the same. Praise or blame through poetry feels too didactic in a pejorative sense. Beautifying feels too silly and flippant. There's increasingly fewer people worth eulogizing, and almost any modern figure someone would think worthy would undoubtedly come across as bathetic in that context. Poetry now is at best just a formal activity like Japanese tea ceremony bereft of former significance.
>>24974465I just don't get it. I get completely filtered by stressed and unstressed syllables. What does that even mean? What are they stressing about?
>>24976827It's called epic poetry.
>>24977161You correctly use stresses every time you speak. To pronounce a polysyllabic word properly, you have to put the stresses in the right places.You say 'toDAY', not 'TOD-ey'.When stresses are arranged in a consistent pattern it creates a rhythm and musical effect, that is called a metre, and the most common metre in English is iambic pentameter used by Shakespeare and many others:to BE or NOT to BE, that IS the QUESTionOnce you learn it this all becomes extremely easy.
>>24977576>da-DUM da-DUM da-DUM da-DUM da-DUMevery high school English teacher ever
Looking for recommendations on futurist novels. It seems like their literary output was mostly poetry. There's pic rel but I don't think it has a complete English translation unfortunately.It doesn't have to be Italian or strictly within the movement, a novel with "futurist themes" would be good too.
>>24971558I really need to learn Italian. So much interesting literature
>>24976332French anon, French. Mafarka was written in French and only translated into Italian by somebody else.
>>24976385Yes yes. But Marinetti wrote other novels in Italian. Also Palazzeschi, Corra, Carli, Rosà, Papini, Bontempelli, ecc.
>>24976897All only relevant insofaras theyve been translated to french, sadly.
>>24975531Thanks for letting me know. I found the epub copy.I read the first chapter and didn't really like it lol. I thought the sex and violence would be cool and invigorating to read but it's actually just kinda repulsive. Like the part where they stack the black women's bodies so high after raping them that the pile of their bodies begins to rot and secrete green pus. Gross.Also the prose is too purple. Literally every sentence has to has some adjective adjective adjective noun simile in it. Off to try The Plumed Serpent by DH Lawrence.
As you read, you form images in your mind of the characters, scenery, actions and objects. Those mental images use remembered images and your imagination as ingredients.But how many of those remembered images are from things you have witnessed first hand, and how many are mediated by mass media like TV, photos in newspapers, logos on cans in the supermarket?As mass media penetrates more and more of our daily life, will these images saturate our reading experiences so that we all imagine more or less the same images as we read?
I am a recovering fash, and in 2026 I wanted to do a lot of additional reading on Marxism, Socialism, etc. I have already ordered the Marx-Engels reader, but I am always looking for more. I've been reading this stuff voraciously lately and feel like a changed man.
>>24977524I don't like the "directional" in political discourse. Used to think it was handy, but no, it is a hindrance to understanding.No, going from here to there shows maturity, humility, and growth. I have developed a lot over my life and it's good to do so. You can't be seriously advocating remaining a stupid fucknut
only thing you are is a non-recovering spastic is what you areyou are living in the 1920s
>>24977574I have autism. Please be nice.
>>24977414This sort of extremely low IQ take is worn out.
>>24977607>Fascism is capitalist>Laugh at the fools who think it isn't>"This is worn out"Truth can never ware out.
wait so this is the Great American Poet?>And so,>They went down to the skiff>Picasso's lioness kissed the banquet lips>Into the sward of kelp-stream (kennings now, JJ)>And loosed a lob of cum into the chyme>So-shun>The great unwobbling teacher came>And threw the rest of the spermatozoa>Into the dross>MARINETTI ZIMZOMBOB>As Climacus.... Shat into the mix>AND HELL OPENED with the pustules of (St Peter Basilica judged by Eriugena's stained glass)>Gonzaga his heirs>And the shepherd-god blew his fife,Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24974827Whitman is just vintage Amanda Gorman.
>>24974457Yes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d7-yvs8-JE
>>24977476yea math rock isn't that bad.
>>24977429It's really nothing like that. What you're saying is 'no matter how beautiful the melodies and harmonic progressions are, I don't understand the form therefore it's garbage'. That's the musical equivalent of what you're saying, only you're denying that there's anything musical about Pound at all because you lack the ear to hear it.
>>24977471This anon gets it.
>it’s better than blood meridian
Based Bakker Edition>Old:>>24968637>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>24977543it looks like he wanted to write some new detective series that flopped and took the rejection poorly
>>24977504I just wanted Guts to have a happy ending so I stopped reading when Casca was unpotatoed and stopped reading there.
>>24977551Lmao thats incredible
>>24977415Read the Lankhmar/Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser series
>>24977415I trust you've read Conan.
