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>>24957178en vobis Ciceronulus! qui autem anglice tantum valet verbis!
>>24956717Here is a nice little video on the Hippocratic corpus and equivalent Chinese texts.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u1RHCarlm5c&pp=ygUuaGVhbHRoIGFuZCBoZWFsaW5nIGluIGFuY2llbnQgZ3JlZWNlIGFuZCBjaGluYQ%3D%3DIt’s a general overview but also has some linguistics in it. The Chinese method of medicine could be considered more backwards than their Greek equivalent because Greeks distinguished between the world of “Physis” and the supernatural (On Sacred disease is a good text on this where supernatural elements are taken out of medicine) whereas Chinese held everything to be one ie Wu.
vagit plorator quidam va va
>>24957214nicethey mention childbirth and female's relation with it but I'd imagine in the military too there would be some kind of natural affinity for the development of a proto-science of healing, I mean in the Iliad itself there seem to be such link when e.g Menelaos gets wounded in the thigh and IIRC some guy in the army is called who had received this knowledge which was divine yet it still involved pharmaka being applied to the spot
>>24957957>Menelaos gets wounded in the thigh It’s interesting you mention this. There are three forms of soul/ spirit (psyche, thumos and nous). I believe he is wounded in his knee and one of them flies out but then returns? I read this in a book on Greek conception of soul and medicine and it explained that this form of the soul (psyche I believe) was tied more towards life in general rather than aggression/ spiritedness (thumos) or intellect (nous). Ie Menelaus wasn’t dead yet his Psyche left his body for a bit It’s all sort of interesting
>>24947268Lying down with my cat on my belly and turning pages is an experience infinitely better than the same but with a gay little tablet and no page turning.
>>24955816Put e-reader on a stand, and turn the pages with the bluetooth remote.
What is an ereader with:-7 Inch B&W Recessed 300dpi Screen-Physical Page Turn Buttons-Not Amazon-Purchasable newI would like to buy one.
>>24954389I only know of expensive ones that meet your requirements.
>>24955347>what's a luddite?Anti-technological progress people. Sometimes they're correct and other times they're retarded.
>First time reading myth of Er in the Republic>nearly 1:1 retelling of the Christian myth of afterlife judgement, down to virtue vs vice/sin, tribulations and suffering for sinners, and Tartarus/hell for worse offenders>wonderful heaven vistas for the virtuous before choosing ones next Daemon and REINCARNATING>the man who supposedly told this tale died in battle and resurrected>all with same book that the Noble lie was introduced to the Western cannonWTF. Is Christianity just a Platonic noble lie -religion? What are the actual origins to this religion? This isn’t even including other religion and myths ranging with the same motifs that predated Christianity.
>>24954076Atlantis is another Platonic moral lesson but it's not taken literally. He also hardly describes what the Atlanteans did wrong but takes his time describing their canals and lay of the land.
>>24954076>Christianity is a tool for the Empire to keep on just as the jews are a scapegoat and a ruler caste in it :O
>>24954458The Egyptians learned it from Moses. Simple as
>>24956580>Sheol, where everyone goes without exception, no reward or punishment coming into the puctureno, thats hades
>>24954076>>24954196>>24954209Every single one of you are engaging in an elaborate game of self refutation and question begging in which you vet the authenticity and admissibility of textual sources with the criterion that they agree with your thesis in order to support your thesis. The moment you apply your skepticism evenly your argument collapses. You are so committed to a pseudo-gnostic “unmasking” of history that you don’t even realize you’re operating entirely on genetic fallacies and post hoc ergo proctor hoc reasoning. You always assume that similarity implies derivation, and that derivation implies falsity. You’re letting psychological frustrations override your rational capacities, and it’s interfering with your ability to make sound judgements about things.
So they adapted a Pynchon novel for filmI've never read Pynchon before but like"One Battle After Another" - what the FUCK is this turbo jogger leftist power fanstasy bullshit?I always realized Hollywood is a bunch left-leaning cucks but holy fuck they outdid themselves with this one.The level of blatant propaganda is on par with fucking commie films of Stalin's era or something.This guy made "There will be blood" and now this what the fuck. This movie doesn't even feel real, it's a caricature of a movie.Tell me bros is Pynchon cringe plebbitor shit like that and not based? Le speaking truth to power
>>24946260I likely don't agree with your political opinions, but this is a good and nuanced take.
>>24946217Not really. One Battle after Another has none of the humor or the surrealism or the subtext of the book it's based on. It really just takes the basic plot of "Retired hippie has his daughter taken away by the government stooge her mom had an affair with" and does something mostly unrelated with it. Hell, the book was more of an anthology, that was really only one plotline that went through it.The movie is some boring facsimile of Pynchon that feels like it was written by a guy stuck in the 00's and directed by a guy stuck in the 70's and neither of these guys has a clue what Pynchon's appeal actually is. Real Pynchon is not only one of the best english speaking satirists of our time but his work is pretty much the ultimate map to 20th century western parapolitics. Anderson clearly doesn't understand either. If you want to watch a movie that feels like Pynchon, go for Dr. Strangelove, Southland Tales or even Eddington.
>>24948662I didn't get the impression that the movie was that gung-ho about leftist political violence, if anything Leo's character almost conveyed the opposite. He was a true believer until he got a kid and now all he wants is for her to do well in school and the ability to light up a bowl and watch old French movies in his meager hovel. The rest of the French 75 who didn't quit either got a prison sentence or a bullet in the head for their trouble, and Sean Penn died trying to impress a bunch of corny old men in Lacoste quarter zips so that he could join their special Christmas club. The only person who emerged unscathed was Leo because he stopped playing cops and robbers and got out with his daughter and tried to stay as far away from that world as he could. Also Benicio Del Toro made it out OK, and he actually took action that didn't involve planting any bombs or shooting anyone
I thought PTA did an amazing job with "Inherent Vice" - I'd thought of Pynchon as unfilmable but he really managed to capture the feeling of being inside a Pynchon novel. I'll watch this one but that would be hard to match or repeat.
>>24946217OBAA is pristine Pinecone in cinema form. You sense his signature wit in each cut. P.T. Underboob read him well.>I'm getting fucking paranoid man, I'm getting fucking paranoidJust like a character in a Thomas Pynchon novel!>I'm gonna say it... greeN ACRESLiterally getting away with saying it, a not-so-subtle nod and staple of every literature great>What is it, he, she, they?No trouble staying contemporary>(over the phone) "You're violating my space right now!"Ditto>black nun: "Don't ax for the fuckin Wi-Fi, okay?"Just lolComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>24956715Aristotle is the ultimate filter between people who like philosophy to know things and people who like philosophy because they think its edgy. >prime mover? accidents and substance? teleology?>dude this is boring and normie!>dude where are the ARCHONS bro!? the demiurge!? where's the based schizo realms?
>>24957296Aristotle is the ultimate trap that captures people right before they grasp philosophy. Normies read him and think they've tapped into some great source of wisdom, never escaping his maze of banal pseudo-philosophical nonsense.
Aristotle is essential to understanding Plato and (Neo)Platonism (and Christianity)The faith of a child is nothing to scoff at but as we age so must our faith or so it should...
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>>24955864"Complete Works">Table of Contents "Not Everything Is Included"Needs a different name.
Without God, meaning and morality do not have an objective grounding, yet a bunch of you people live as if your life still has value, or that your choices matter. The moment you deny God, you lose the right to claim that objective value, meaning, or purpose exist, or that something is right or wrong. But you cannot rule out the possibility of God either by default, because of cause and effect, and symmetry and order, etc.If a mathematician was presented with the choice (A) guaranteed 0%, and choice (B) even a slight chance of >0%, the mathematician would be forced to choose (B), not out of fear or despair, but out of logic and rationality. If everything you believe in collapses without a creator, and you can see even a slight chance for His existence, you must have faith in Him; otherwise, your choice is emotional.Most of you people do not want to be logically 100% consistent, and that is why you fail the test. You do not fail the test because you lack proof; you fail the test because you hate the truth.
>>24957559But the existence of God does nothing to provide an objective grounding. It remains a singular judgement *about* certain actions. If you argue that by the fact those actions are objectively (im)moral by virtue of their divine consequences you're still just arguing their validity through instrumentality. The problem is that 'objectivity' is a term that does not even parse ethics. Morals are ontologically divorced from any notion of 'objectivity', it's a term that does not make sense in the discourse of ethics.
>>24957262STFU faggot.
>>24957262>Without God, meaning and morality do not have an objective grounding,Even with a god those things lack groundi g, that's why faith Is needed
>>24957566Who cares? Christianity would have remained a minor, fragmentary Jewish sect in the Middle East if not for military force.
>>24957262>Without God, meaning and morality do not have an objective groundingAll of these things are subjective. There is no such thing as objective morality, meaning or God (that we can empirically measure). Morality is entirely based upon our fallible human perspective, which is subjective>yet a bunch of you people live as if your life still has value, or that your choices matter. Just because meaning and morality is subjective, that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have value. This is a logical fallacy>The moment you deny God, you lose the right to claim that objective value, meaning, or purpose exist, or that something is right or wrong. Again, the existence of God is not objective. Morality is not objective. Meaning and value is not objective. These are subjective things. Therefore, you are in the same bucket as I am>But you cannot rule out the possibility of God either by default, because of cause and effect, and symmetry and order, etc.If you can prove God exists definitively (you can’t) then perhaps you may have a point here. Cause and effect can still and does exist without God. Order and symmetry are functions of counter entropic patterns in nature, which is entirely dependent upon the nature of energy. This has nothing to do with god and everything to do with temperature differentials etc>If a mathematician was presented with the choice (A) guaranteed 0%, and choice (B) even a slight chance of >0%, the mathematician would be forced to choose (B), not out of fear or despair, but out of logic and rationality. There is no such thing as 0%. We can get close to 0 as to be practically 0, but never true 0. There is an infinitesimally small chance that the heat death of the universe could occur tomorrow. Mathematicians jobs are to calculate the probability of an occurrence based on objectively measurable set of variables, not to decide based on emotion.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>desire is the root of sufferingOkay, I'm listening>detaching from desires and ego will cease sufferingOkay, sounds good>by the way, there is also no self, you are just a collection of five aggregate senses. so like this is you but not really "you">also when you die they will just get recollected into something else if you didnt reach nirvana>also if you were really bad you might get sent to a hell realm where some spirit will torture the fuck out of you for a million years until you pay off your karmaWait what? Can you explain any of this?>dude you just asked one of the imponderable questions. don't worry about itHow am I supposed to believe this as the actual explanation for our existence?
>>24957945Also Buddhism without rebirth is largely incoherent, and it makes suttas like picrel really, really dishonest. If there's no rebirth, a person could probably reduce their suffering in this life in many more (short-term) effective ways than going to the trouble of devoting their life to the effort to become enlightened.
>>24957945There are many places in the suttas where the Buddha admits to doing just that, speaking in "season," telling the right thing to the right audience, only telling what makes sense to tell. But of course you can find places in the sutta that say things like you cited. In other words it's a contradictory text, which is inevitable when there are "two truths". Also, it's 80,000 suttas written by hundreds if not thousands of monks over hundreds of years, so consistency is not something that anybody expects.
Mahayana is the least nonsensical Buddhist sect because it doesn't have anatta. I would never follow a jeet religion but if I had to I would pick that one.
>>24957953Telling the right thing at the right time is very different from outright deceiving people, and the five precepts are central enough to Buddhism that if something very close to them doesn't go back to the historical Buddha, then it might be more accurate to say there is no historical Buddha whose teachings can be discerned, just a jumble of texts featuring a Buddha character.
>>24957914The two truths isn’t about a story told to layman to make them behave. The two truths is the absolute (the thing prior to the world and recognized in your experience at stream entry) and the relative (world). You have a wordcel understanding of Buddhism and should go meditate to actually experience it. The experience is the same that’s found in Neoplatonism and mystic Christianity and the upanishads and a few others, it’s the basis of all true religion
>If it can't be written in formal logic, it is not a philosophical position; it is not a proposition at all, and cannot be proved for or against empirically, or logically. It's just sophism.the most retarded thing i've ever read on this board by a mile. stirner is the only philosophy related image i have btw
>>24957856>If your good philosophers don't believe that their concepts and principles should be rooted in logic then on what basis do they agree or disagree on them aside from personal feeling?all theories are intuitive. in the sense that logic exists, there is a proposition (this is X, for example) and a theory (if this is Y then this should be X) and a proposition derived from the two (Y is so, because this is X and (if this is Y then this should be X). that theory and first proposition must be agreed upon-they don't need to be logically proven.>How do you judge such ideas or built from them? intuition>How do you even know that your good philosophers aren't dishonest and stupid? how many of their propositions and theories i intuitively agree with. if they are dishonest, and everything they say i agree with, then what is the difference? if they agree with me on most things, but disagree with me on fundamental things and they are dishonest, then they are very stupid.>That our belief is irrelevant. Humanity could nuke itself to extinction today and it would matter very little in the grand scale of things. The laws that govern reality wouldn't be changed in the slightest. philosophy is the study of the mental realm, not the physical one. of course what relates to the mental realm (our beliefs), are ALL that is relevant to philosophy. if we were to physically exist, but not believe anything, then philosophy would not exist. if we were to not physically exist, then our beliefs would also cease to exist, and then the mental and physical realms would both cease to exist. philosophy exists to serve those who believe, those who create and maintain the mental realm.
>>24957877To expand on this:"Logic" has at least 3 meanings:1. Good reasoning in general2. Formal logic3. Classical logicIf you mean that philosophical arguments should use good reasoning, most people will agree, but it's vague.If you mean classical logic, the logical system itself only gives you tautologies. So you can say that a entails a, or that (a AND b) entails (a OR b) but you can't do that much interesting stuff with this. Other than that it only tells you what truth value you get when you combine propositions, e.g. with AND or OR.The interesting implications are themselves just premises. E.g. "if Socrates is a man, he is mortal" or "Socrates being a man implies he's mortal" but you don't get this premise from logic itself, it's an empirical observation.Philosophical arguments are just a bunch of premises, combined in very simple ways. Your argument being logically valid (combining the premises in the right way) is almost a given.
>>24957877There is a middle ground between rejecting logic outright and demanding that all positions should be based on a priori.
>>24957940>it's an empirical observation.it's a belief. these premises, or theories, are simply beliefs.>if Socrates is a man, he is mortalthe premise that you are implicitly stating is that "all men are mortal". that's the real premise here. what you're doing is simply relying on implying a premise using another premise
>>24957954I wanted to highlight the structure in propositional logic and make the modus ponens obvious.
is Maya Angelou just a simple and basic everyday poet?how can people put her on Great Poets lists alongside Dickinson, Whitman, Neruda, Anne Carson, Geoffrey Hill, et al?is she a nepo baby or something?
this guy is DYING for someone to argue with him
>>24956191That bit of writing rang truer and had a lot more impact in the era prior the intimate and constant interaction with "the other" that comes with mass immigration.
>>24956931>said ‘name someone with more who isn’t on Greatest Poets etc lists’I'm the guy who wrote that. Poorly, clearly.What I meant:"Not only has she received the accolades that I linked, but has also been included on many Greatest Poet lists, etc."
other than Anne Carson and Geoffrey Hill, who are other contemporary poets the very highest tier?AF Moritz, maybe? others?
>>24953637I think her poem Caged Bird is worthy of the praise it got. Clinton was the person who elevated her to the household name she is today.
Do you have any literary tattoo?
>>24957307tattoos are shit. >>24957758I know this is a copypasta, but DFW tattoos are even more shit because Infinite Jest went on a long tract against tattoos.
>>24957361>hasn't read Poe>thinks she knows his aesthetic
>>24957453>am surrounded by tattoos at workWhere do you work for this to happen?
>>24957926>tattoos are shit.
>>24957592Good pointAnd why would you read Poe if he's one letter away from being called Poo?Age don't get me started on Balzac or Dickinson
whats your imagination like when you read a book? how do you visualize the characters and enviroment?i was recently looking at some illustrations and i realised i see things in a more cartoony way than other people like a chaaracter who is an old man who used to be a soldier was wearing a hat to me because soldier = hat even if he wasnt wearing the rest of the uniform because he is no longer a soldier even tho realistically there is no reason for the hat eitheror this young woman who was aworkaholic and very strict to me she had her hait tied so hard you could notice with just a look and also a large nose to give the idea that every muscle on her face was tensei kind of feel like a middleschool child now
Depends. Some books conjure vivid scenes in my mind, others nothing at all. In any case it's orthogonal to the quality of the book.>>24955442I skip fighting scenes when I know who's gonna win and I drop the book when the main character loses.
>>24956295Currently on book six of Paradise Lost and boy, oh boy does this Milton faggot like to drag on and on, I just want to read Lucifer being cool and sassy and read some memorable quotes, I couldn't care less about what fruits Eve chose to do some juice for Raphael or about how angels get their nutrients. Fuck, i'm half this supposed epic poem but Adam and eve didn't even eat the forbidden fruit so far. I feel scammed
>>24955409I like descriptive scenes of architecture, unless its In Excelsior like Eco's Name Of The Rose. Action is good too. Not a fan of droning dialogue especially if it doesn't advance the plot.
>>24955409Everything looks like a blur to me. It's probably a result of me being too fast when I read but I imagine things like snapshots rather than having continuous movement.
>>24955409I usually visualize in animated/comicbook form with varying styles. After a while it becomes less of an effort and just sort of happens.
are there any scientifically published books that have analysed why japanese people are so... particular about tidyness and obsessed with mastering everything they know?
>>24956845this book was a huge influence on heidegger? now i am interested
>>24956315Purity and Cleaness are important part of Shintoism
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>>24956702Japan was not always so clean and tidy. A society's level of clealniness is a result of its level of development and wealth. Poor countries do not have garbage collection, educational system or government programs to instill a consciousness in the population. Lower-educated, poor populations in general are not going to have high hygiene. America used to also be full of litter and there were campaigns for decades on television and billboards telling people not to litter. And yes, it worked.
>>24956315>scientifically published
What are some famous examples of weird literature or theatre?
>>24956180Jorjani is probably the most schizo author on the scene right now.
>>24956180Ubu roi
>>24956180I got you
>>24956181The Illuminatus! Trilogy fits perfectly.
>>24956180
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>>24957885I disagree. Problem?
>>24957890 (You)
>>24956733the basic idea is that you write from the unconscious, "from where you dream," so the more things or time you put between "dreaming" and writing, the worse your writing is going to be. if you look into the writing habits of famous writers, almost all of them write immediately upon waking up.
>>24957862Nobody would ever give up that much of their life for so little. It should be more like a million dollars for each hour to make it plausible.
>>24957923>Nobody would ever give up that much of their life for so little.The thing is that you don't have to do anything. You don't have to break your back wageslaving nor suck up to HR cunts / manager fags, etc.People waste countless hours of their lives and often go through horrible or unpleasant experiences for less.>It should be more like a million dollars for each hour to make it plausible.Then there would be no sacrifice nor reflection at all. You would make more money in a few days of doing nothing than most people will ever make in their entire lives.The point of the question is, "would you rather live a good but short life, or a long but shitty one?", "how good and short would you rather your life be?".
Forget Winds of Winter, when is this shit coming?
>>24956395It's not. He hasn't written even the FIRST CHAPTER of this book that he promised in a charity fundraiser years ago
>>24956521Why tho? Muh depression?
>>24956521I thought the story was that the draft was written years ago and it's not edited? Either way, yeah we're never getting this book. Victim of his own success.
>>24956521such a blunderhow you gonna promise a chapter of your book to receive charity donations and never deliver? people go to prison for fraudshould he be in prison? idkmaybe he should be charged with fraud and a jury of our peers can deliberate on it
>>24956395hopefully never
