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read lord of the mysteries
So how did Paranoid Mage end? I never read beyond about two chapters into the last (fifth) book.And we need a hero to update the latest two patreon chapters for DCC onto kemono.
Comfy.
interesting world - roman empire rules everything and has a ponzi scheme of human soul essence passed up and up the chain to the ruling officials and senators - but the story itself is extremely YA and is basically harry potter at hogwartssequel might be better though since the ending introduces some interesting ideas
>>23622839>sequel might be betterhe already announced he was gonna shoehorn in a ton of forced diversity
>>23622746I want opinions of anons on:Witcher, Game of Thrones, Black Company.
>>23622844Source?
>>23622844like one of the three worlds is entirely full of blacks or something?
>>23622860witcher: kinda shit, the games did way better with the universe/charactersgame of thrones: good to book 3, book 4 is questionable, book 5 is dogshit, grrm will never finish itblack company: good until they go to not-india and then it becomes extremely trash
>>23622860>Witcher has good moments, but ultimately feels aimless because Geralt doesn't really have concrete goals, and most things just happen to him as opposed to him being active>GoT is good, but the first book can feel like a slog after a while because it's mainly Ned Stark taking Ls for 700 pages with little reprieve.>never read Black Company
>>23622893>feels aimless because Geralt doesn't really have concrete goals, and most things just happen to him as opposed to him being activedoesn't that describe most Soviet/Post-Soviet Eastern-European literature?
>>23622860warosu
Is this faggot ever going to finish the series?
>>23622913I've no clue I don't intentionally seek out slav jank (or any books by ethnicity desu). I think the only other book I'm aware of on my shelf written by a Russian is The Master and Margarita, and I've yet to read though I've heard good things.
>>23622957nohttps://www.reddit.com/r/gentlemanbastards/comments/hg3ey4/scott_lynch_and_wife_elizabeth_bear_accused_of/
>>23622957The answer to this question for any author seems to be no.
>>23622957has a series ever fallen off so hard in the second book? god it was fucking awful
>>23622913It describes the elric books, which the witcher is clearly based on.
Any scifi similar to Blame! (the manga)? Not necessarily 1:1 but I mean like, far-future post apocalypse with fucked up transhuman stuff, cyborgs, etc. I've already read Great Sky River and Feersum Endjinn, and I'd add The Stars Are Legion and Sisyphean by Dempow Torishima.
>>23622746xianxia/litrpgfags are destroying this generalwe didn't know how good we had it with bakkerfag
>>23623105he's the worst shitposter in the history of this shit general
>>23622791Why would you read patreon chapters instead of just waiting for the book?
>>23623105They barely talk about it except for the ri ritual poster.
>>23622860Havent read black company yet, got is great, but unfinished and witcher outside of the 2 short stories books is pretty mediocre
>>23623235Id kindly request that you dont group us carlchads with the rest of litrpg and weebslop vermin
>>23623105He's gone?
>>23623098probably the adjustment team by philip k dickbecause thats what the net sphere safeguards are
>>23622860>Witcher: i want FUCK Yen>GoT: i want to Fuck Cersei and Catelyn>Black Company: i want to FUCK Lady and Ky SahraI think milfs are neat
>>23622844It's interesting how words can get so twisted.
>>23623098That's a tough one. Nothing I've read really captures the feel or look of Blame! The vast brutalism, gothic tech and the like. You would think something in the Warhammer universe could pull it off, but not really. It also doesn't help that Blame! has hardly any dialogue to fuck up the mood. The closest thing that comes to mind is The Vagrant. Pic related is an excerpt from around the second or third chapter.
>>23623256Reading this, neat but not capturing the vibe I'm looking for.>>23623337You mean the book by Peter Newman? There's a few books with that name when I google it. I'm interested regardless. You're right that it's hard to capture the manga's energy though, I know it's a long shot to find anything like it.
>>23623347Yeah, that's the one.
>>23623098I'll be honest. Blame in lit form would probably be so depressing that it would make you kill yourself.
>>23623369And the author would probably be some sad Russian guy which would only compound the sense of despair.
>>23623369I've read and liked Crooked God Machine so I qualify as a depression enjoyer I think. On that note, I'd actually consider that kinda Blame!-like with its robot stuff and dreamlike energy but is more down to earth with its normal looking small towns and non-fucked-up human population.
Japanese techno-depression diaspora VS Japanese Spirtual life affirming diasporaPick one
>>23623369>western scifi lit isn't depressingStop reading space operas and read some REAL scifi zoomie
>>23623098Diamond Dogs by Reynolds.
>reading three body problem book 3>part where dude tells girl the cryptic fairy tales>hidden messages on what the ayys are doing>there is a character who is the same size no matter the observer's distance to himwhat was that about?
>>23623267it's interesting how disingenuous cunts can give away so much about themselves while saying nothing of substance.
>>23623471possibly a nod to the fact that without a frame of reference, you don't know where a signal is coming from, because it could be a weak signal from close by, or a strong signal from far away
>>23623448Why would you pretend my post says something that it doesnt say?Assumptions and their consequences have been a disaster for mankind.
>>23623472He didn't say he is going to shoehorn in a bunch kf forced diversity.
Me collection:>>>23623113
How do I coom to words?
>>23623558Nice covers
>>23623598imagination
>>23622860>WitcherNever read it. Never finished the first game.>Game of ThronesThe first novel of A Song of Ice and Fire is compelling with strong dialogue and character writing, especially for Tyrion Lannister and Catelyn Stark. The world building is also interesting and mysterious, with magic looming over the story but not playing a very active role in the day to day lives of most characters. >Black CompanyLays claim to being the originator, or at least what popularized, the "military fantasy" sub-genre. Inspired a lot of other authors, at any rate. The style of the writing is very terse, sometimes frustratingly so, but it is gripping because of the strong narrative voice. Think of a Vietnam war vet's memoir, but from a mercenary fighting on behalf of the Dark Lord of some weird fantasy world. The books are short and worth a read, imo.
>>23623689Thanks, you convinced me to read jim company
>>23622746What do I read if I want a complex narrative full of betrayals, schemes, plots, etc, but all of that in a single standalone book instead of an entire series?
>>23623248I doubt it. Bakkerfag has gone into remission in the past, only to return with a vengeance. Probably sitting out his latest ban, or maybe his tard wrangler banned him from the internet for a while. What we know for certain is he doesn't get bored or find his shitposting unfulfilling, because he's been doing it on a nearly daily basis for nearly 5 years.
>>23623701Bible
>>23623455thanks!
Any suggestions close to this? The harder the better.
>>23623720Read more Egan.
>>23623689>terseI think I liked that aspect, Black Company dialogues sometimes make it feel as if it's people actually speaking and thinking, more "natural".
>>23623598Requires an active imagination. People who can get off to erotica usually don't even need any kind of external aid for masturbation, their imagination is enough on its own. But using erotica, or other types of porn, is definitely less effort.
>>23623732That is one of the reasons I find it so compelling. Because of the framing device for the story as a chronicle of his company, we get enough exposition from the narrator because that's his entire purpose for writing the chronicle (though he can be frustratingly vague at times when he decides not to elaborate). The dialogue he transcribes is therefore largely devoid of exposition.
>>23623701If you insist on stand alone novels you're gonna be looking for a long time. They aren't common in fantasy to start with, and are less common now than in previous decades because publishers really prefer trilogies at a minimum. If you actually do want to find something to read, but don't want it to be a huge investment of time, a more realistic stance would be to ask for trilogies, or for series with fairly short novels (400 pages or less).
Still crazy to me that fantasy is the dominate genre in this general. Don’t you ever get tired of reading insanely bloated, word count maxing, 5 book series genre fiction that is just all lore and gay sex?
>>23623855Sci-fi fags always act so uppity but every time they have tried to make their own general thread (I believe there were 5 separate attempts in the past?) it fails within a few days and they come crawling back here.
>>23623855Fantasy tends to be nostalgic, so it makes sense that the kind of people on 4chan would like it. Sci-fi, especially modern sci-fi, is pretty much the antithesis of nostalgia. Also, your caricature of fantasy isn't really apt at all, and shows how little of it you read.
>>23623855>all lore and gay sex?Sounds more like modern sci-fi desu. Modern fantasy is all trying to be Game of Thrones, so it's political intrigue and gay sex, with really lazy thrown-together world building.
>>23623855The cultural relevance of sci-fi peaked 60 years ago and has been in decline ever since, while that of fantasy peaked in the 2000s/2010s with LotR movies, Harry Potter and GoT. Don't blame me, I don't make the trends.
>>23623924>>23623929Y’all are right about modern sci-fi, but it is more like “r/HeckinScienceIsAwesomeSause” than lore and gay sex. Recommend me some fantasy for a predominantly vintage sci-fi reader. Only fantasy I have really read is some Tolkien forever ago and Jack Vance & Gene Wolfe.
>>23623855As long as the gay sex is between women I don’t mind. I love lore
>>23623957>gay sex is between womenI could do with more of this honestly. Seems like all the token gays or token bisexuals are dudes these days.
>>23623949>Recommend me some fantasy for a predominantly vintage sci-fi reader.idk, maybe try reading fantasy authors that were also sci-fi writers back in the 60s and 70s. Moorcock, LeGuin, Zelazny,... GRRM, believe it or not.
First for loli mc xianixa + litrpg fusion
Just finished Urth of the New Sun. Anyone want to talk about these books for the thousandth time?Also, what should I read next? I'm thinking maybe Moorcock. I'm assuming those later Solar Cycle books are more or less their own thing. I'll get around to them, when I get around to them.
Thought's on Moorcock's von Bek books? Recently finished this and The Warhound and the World's Pain and they are of the most gripping and intelligently-written eternal champion books I've read. Definitely picking up The Brothel in Rosenstrasse when I get a chance.
I'm starving, can someone recommend me something? Recent science fiction books I read (that I liked): Valis, Beautiful Star, This Is How You Lose The Time War, The Dispossessed, some Jack Vance book forget the name, Blindsight.
>>23624119Maybe check out some elric stories? Largely hit or miss but they are great pulpy reads after a more taxing Wolfe book
>>23624167I just noticed there's comic adaptations of some of those, and now I'm on the fence as to whether I should read those, since I haven't read a comic in a while, and I've been thinking about getting back into that. What would you say? Is he a good prose writer? Am I missing out if I don't read the actual book?
>>23623701Illusion by Paula VolskyChuddies beware: Female mc and Female writer>>23623949>predominantly vintage sci-fi readersame here, i advice just reading vintage fantasy, Saberhagen's Book of Swords and Books of Lost Swords, Moorcock's Eternal Champion Cycle, Belgariad, Darwath, Riftwar, Wagner's Kane, Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, Dragonriders of Pern, Riddle-Master of Hed, Melanie Rawn's Dragon Prince trilogies, Fionavar Tapestry, Tanith Lee's Flat Earth.>>23624153It's definitely one of his best books, i still think about the ending from time to time. Second Ether and some parts of the Dreamquest/Moonbeam Roads have similar themes to "World's Pain"
The pariah by anthony ryan good or not? I want to read it but I heard it was written in first person point of view
>>23623105THE SLOG OF SLOGS BOYS
>>23624251
>>23622860The first two Witcher books are pretty good, after that it's not good. Games are alright.
>>23622980I’m reading the first one right now and if the guy is getting cancelled/jailed why bother reading the rest of them if they aren’t finished yet? Especially if they fall off. I’m enjoying it so far, shame
>>23624326First one makes for a great standalone. Very easy to pretend he never wrote any more.
I don't know if I can't go back to Sanderson's souless writing style after reading Jordan's WOTAlso makes me hesistant to finish WOT cause I know there's invisible prose waiting for me at the end.
>>23624177It's been a while since I last read elric so I can't really say much about the prose, although Moorcock definitely can crank out some well written stuff when he tries. If anything it should be a very comfortable read since his chapters tend to be short and read very naturally. Also, I personally feel that a character as dramatic/moody as elric works better in prose, and I'm viewing the comics (which I plan to read eventually) as an easy way to revisit the character when the notion strikes me.
>>23624200That cover is sick, love looking at fantasy covers from other countries
>>23624332>I don't know if I can't go back to Sanderson's souless writing style after reading Jordan's souless writing style
>>23624355someone post chinese bakker, it's k i n o
>>23624332It's an incredibly jarring change for sure. Luckily book 12 is shit for the first half so you have plenty to hate and make you forget about the prose by the time it gets good again
>>23623976Its absence can (probably) by explained by the "straight men don't read" meme. Sure, there's plenty of books featuring lesbian love but like, they're all primarily focused on hating men with the rest being secondary. What's left is either written by women or fags for women and fags, neither of which want to read a scene with two chicks gettin' it on.>>23624330>first one makes for a great standalonegood to know, thanks anon
>>23624425Straight men don't publish due to industry capture, and men aren't going to read poorly-written shit for women
>>23624454yes yes chuddie kikes and women are the reasons why you can't get laid
>>23624454oh bakkerfag is back
>>23624469Bakker isn't a straight man.
>>23624459>women are the reasons why you can't get laidThats a fairly good reason to not be able to have sex, isn't it?Unless you are a rape advocate
Why is most modern fantasy stories written with some fake middle english bullshit?! Write in modern prose!!!!
>>23624454touch grass
>>23624510>why do pseuds use purple prose unnecessarilybecause flexing the fact that they own a thesaurus is the only joy some people can get out of life.>>23624459Women are the reason all men can't get laid. Unless of course like >>23624506 suggested you want men to rape more?
>>23624521No amount of grass touching is going to change the demographics of published authors and the publishing industry
>>23624531see >>23624459
>>23624534>he noticed>shut him down
>>23624536what would your mother think if she saw you saying all that awful stuff about women? she raised you better than that
just finished stranger in a strange place, what a weird but interesting book. every heinlein book is so different.
>>23623720>>23623730agreed. There's really nothing out there like Egan. that said, his books aren't for everyone
>>23624360
>>23624646He said it like a massive faggot, but he's right.
>>23624646he should have told her about all the gay rape and alien black semen
>>23623471>made it to book 3Chatgpt even broke down when they tried to feed that trash into its model.>>23624646>campusStopped reading.Academics can't write and should all be sent to the mines.
>>23624646Bakker is /lit/.>write fantasy books based on your philosophical studies>commercially unsuccessful>coworkers call them childrens books>seethe endlessly>refuse to finish the series out of spite
>>23624736no wonder bakkerfag loves him so much
>>23624646>gets mogged by some hagAll he had to do was not get defensive. I can't imagine how much more poorly it came across in person if you can see it so clearly in writing. Just say something like, "While I'm not opposed to writing something for children in the future, the project you're referring to is actually for adults. If you'd like I can get you a copy sometime. Do you still teach in room blah blah blah" or something to that effect.When someone sneakily takes a jab at you you've got to be careful not to overreact because they'll always have the option to feign ignorance which in turn can make you look like a fool to everyone around. Normies are far more sadistic than they're given credit for.
Wish this got adapted properly into a film, instead of Tarkovsky's boring Soviet arthouse dogshit.>b-b-but muh atmosphere
>>23623701I'm not reading all that.
>>23623939Maybe they should make new sci-fi about how we never left earth because we had to take care of ni
>>23624646Real talk, how do you respond without sounding mad?The actual answer is to strike her but that comes with jail time even though it's morally just.
>>23624890but the twist is some hyperborean whites did successfully leave the earth and now they have a utopian society?
>>23624909No. Bring back post-apocalypse. This city-state managed to scrounge up enough black powder for a single cannon shot after 20 years of toil by the peasants kind of post-apocalypse.
>>23624850Nothing outs you as a bitch faster than feigned nonoffense. Stand your ground.
>>23624646Somebody post that meme.
>>23624922Depends on the person, the place, your history with them, the offense in question, etc. There are times when you should stand your ground, and times when it's unnecessary. An overreaction can make you out to be just as much of a bitch as a lack of any reaction in the face of a great offense.
>>23624932No I'm gonna have to disagree again. In the original post, the person is defensive. In your post, you are also defensive. Neither of these are standing your ground.Standing your ground would be>what's wrong with childrens books?It's a dodge and a counter attack. Whereas you and the person in the image just stand there and let the enemy land blows on you. That's not standing your ground, it's giving up, it's bitchmade.Only bitches and babies think standing your ground is cowering behind your castle walls while the enemy lays siege. KILL HIM kill your enemy, ram a spike through his sternum murder your foes.
Let me try:"I don't write children's content you petty whore, but you knew that."Replace "you petty whore" with "fag" for male opponent.How do I fare?t. someone who has never had to have a real argument and try to use anything from "How to Win an Argument"
>>23624960Yeah, you get it.
>>23624899This is now a scene from a Fallout game. What do you say, anon?>Thank you! I would've written something more mature if my professor wasn't a woman.>Excuse me, but have we met before? I don't remember your name.>Ignore her>I'd give you a copy, but you're probably still childless.
I was crossing campus not so long ago and I happened to bump into one of my old professors. She greeted me with a warm smile and congratulated me on coming out to my mother as gay. After swearing under my breath, I explained to her that I had not come out to my mother, and that if an- Wait no I mean I'm not gay!
>>23624966"You're a woman. Just seduce him." goes really hard.Your choices are dead on for Fallout 4.I choose 4.
>>23624957No shit. The reply I wrote was intended to be neutral. I was showing how to respond to a situation in which it's virtually impossible for you to know if the lady meant it as an insult. It goes without saying one should adjust accordingly when they have more pertinent info.
>>23624999Nobody learns when you're nice to them.Attack them and win or attack them and force them to be repentant.You win either way. Instead of losing one and losing the other in your mind deciding if she meant insult for the rest of your life.But this is real life and all I'm sure I would have done was "Hmm" through my nose.
>>23624646id bet 10 bucks the prof is a sweet little old lady who was just being nice and Bakker is autistic af
>>23625030absolutely notacademics are all massive cunts and the wording "children's fiction" is clearly an insult
>>23625036maybe today they are but i doubt it was anywhere near as bad 30 plus years ago when he was in college
>>23625049electronically balkanized society sounds pretty modern to me so i doubt it happened 30 years ago
>>23623720Stillwell, Pugh, Mars Gravity.
Documentary about SF writer Jeff Lint, feat Alan Moore, Jeff Vandermeer, etc.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIgJYgw7v3c
>>23623471It's about the different dimensions. Remember the chapter when they were in the 4th dimension pocket and perspective was all fucked?
>>23625049>>23625036>>23625030>>23624646Did Tolkien ever get shit from other professors?
>>23625217No but CS looey did, and his response was based.
>>23624510>fake middle english bullshitIt's not even middle english-esque, it's more faux-victorian
>>23625238What was his response?
>>23625217I don't know but according to his students he was simultaneously both fun and frustrating as hell. I'd risk a class of incomprehensible mumbling just to see him cosplay as a knight or something.
>>23625244>A children's story that can only be enjoyed by children is not a good children's story in the slightest.and>When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty, I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.
>Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.
>>23622757lord of the mysteries0/10 no cunny>"a five-year-old child whose hands were stained with sweets attacked Anderson Hood in all kinds of manners">"He had a vague feeling that, despite him being here to take advantage of a baby, it ended up as the baby taking advantage of him." >>23622800UndineUndine is 18, how tf is that a nymph. Still pretty based as it's implied that she was having sex with her foster father for an unspecified amount of time before that, there is also a cute scene with a young Undine, so I'll give it a tenth point for that0.1/10>"Then there came a noise of something rattling at the door: it opened, and a marvellously [sic] lovely little maid of three or four years of age stood, in a rich dress, on the threshold, and smiled at us. ">>23622839The Will of Many0/10 no cunnyFinally we get some real shotalit, is what I thought, too bad the mc is a chud who want to overthrow the government or some shit who knows, who cares >"The children will be excited, and I need your help getting them ready.">"Almost all children are brought to one of the ancient pillars when they turn twelve, after which they’re able to cede to anyone, any time">"Of the room’s twenty-odd occupants, more than half are between seven and ten years old... Matron Atrox, who sweeps into the room and favours the children with a beatific smile. Almost all of them reflect it back, even Vermes. They adore the matron. And why wouldn’t they? She treats them with patience and respect. She feeds them and clothes them, gives them hope for a family. And all they have to do is regularly cede to her, and then occasionally to strangers for a day or two.">"Cede: The act, in the Hierarcy, of giving half your Will to someone ranked directly above you."Will is undefined. I can only assume it means your virgin buttholeThere is a scene were the mc (15?) is swimming naked and sitting "near naked" by a campfire >>23622860 (maybe a real review of each got and black company book later)>witcherNo cunny 0/10>game of thronesNo cunny, but does have some oppai hebes 0.01/10>black companyI think there was cunny, but I honestly can't decipher the writing, so maybe not?/10>>23624119The Urth of the New Sun0/10 no cunnyLike everything Wolfe just a bunch of meaningless (or false) purple prose, thesaurus wrangling and homoeroticism>"Aflame, she comes to children, announcing that they are to be children no longer. She is the seducer.">>23624251The Pariah0/10 no cunny>"very much like a child expecting a blow">"My grandmother’s sick,” a girl shouted, three people deep behind them [sic]. “So if you could help me out, uncle—"
>>23625390Can you rec some cino?
>>23625390cunny is shit
>>23625390your """reviews""" are SHIT. fuck off
>>23622860>WitcherThe short strories are charming and funni. The novels are legitimately some of the worst ebin phantzie slop I've ever read.>Game of ThronesPretty alright. >Black CompanyPretty alright.
>>23625400Start here with Bernd_LauertaHR0cHM6Ly93ZWIuYXJjaGl2ZS5vcmcvd2ViLzIwMjIwMzEyMDkxMTAxL2h0dHBzOi8vYXNzdHIub3JnL2ZpbGVzL0F1dGhvcnMvQmVybmRfTGF1ZXJ0Lw==here are more author recsaHR0cHM6Ly9zdG9yaWVzLmFsbHRoZWZhbGxlbi5tb2UvaW5kZXgucGhwP3RpdGxlPUFTU1RSX0Zhdm9yaXRlcw==You'll probably need to use wayback (probably on .org not xyz, or find a mirror. There is also a scrape of all of asstr/mrdouble etc on all the fallen forums)Nothing explicitly Chinese as far as I can tell, so just average kino.
>>23625456mmm, I'm more of a frank mccoy man myself.>There is also a scrape of all of asstr/mrdouble etc on all the fallen forums)wait what? shit, does it include the loliwood exclusive stories? couldn't find a complete mirror for that site after asstr went down.also>cunny>kinocino...cinno?
>>23625467I don't know about exclusive loliwood stories, but it has ~7000 loliwood stories under LOLIWOOD269. It also has velocityIf you have the names of any exclusive stories I can confirm or authors I can post a story count Frank Mccoy is awesome, I remember reading tons of his stuff in highschool, shame what happened.
Is impregnating the daughters of both your enemies and letting them get attached to your children before revealing it the best revenge?
>>23625489>impregnating the daughters of your enemiesThat's called making peace and a political marriage and alliance/personal union.
>>23625480Found a (verified complete) webarchive there, lets fucking go! Thanks. Idk why it never occured to me to check the forums. I looked at the atf stories thing a while back but I don't remember finding much.And yeah, rip Frank fuck the feds.
Any fantasy book with a protagonist that doesn't really fight that much but it's a leader of a group?Kinda like professor x
>>23625493He's an utter inferior socially and rank wise.
>>23625489That's just xianxia done right. The look on the face of the clan grand elders when their head disciple says "father!", when seeing you at a sect/clan technique exchange tournament, is worth getting bitchslapped and then having your sect elder come out to defend you 1000 times over.
>>23625489>>23625515Seminal victory
>>23625509Then you played yourself. Should have pulled out at least. Now some disgruntled underlings are going to off you and put your bastard in your place instead.
>>23625489God I wish I could impregnate some jade beauties
the slog of slogs
>>23625533THE COFFERS
>>23625508Yup there was a wuxia/xianxia that was pretty good I forgot the name though, and novelupdates isn't helping, cause it was definitely multiple protagonists at one point. >>23625515That's one cool thing about xianxia, that I rarely see. Using the long lifespan to fuck around with family trees could generate endless lulz
>>23625543what if the slog of slogs was the true coffers all along?
>>23625519>being important enough to have a rank>not being a ninja master or some shit where trying to assassinate you result in an epic final battle where, win or lose, your legend is forever*Laughs in Asian Mysticism*
>>23625554>be me>cultivator belonging to immortal cultivation family>ancestor finally comes out of his cultivation cave>family banquet held for the patriarch’s breakthrough to one level of the true celestial essence refining divine star venerable heavenly earthly immortal god realm higher than he was before (still in early stages of the realm)>millions of people gather >billions more mortals who are also of our clan’s bloodline celebrate too>to celebrate ancestor decides to add another concubine>he takes fancy to my sister>marries her as his 97888988898898th concubine>mfw we’re descendants of his 3rd son’s 4th son’s 9th son’s concubine>ancestor is 10,000 years old>we’re also 5,000 generations away from him>mfw i now have to also call my sister ancestor because of the sudden generational difference>ancestor impregnates sister, then immediately goes back to his cave to cultivate for the next 200 years
>>23625554They usually get around this by having actual cultivators have really low birthrates. If they actually address the issue it will be something like, the stronger you are the stronger your kids will be so you don't want to have kids until you max out your cultivation.
>>23625582I like the idea of a battle being so epic, it's viewed as a supernatural disaster.>The sky split open>The sun moved backwards>Shadows quaked>Whole forests whitheredIf future empires don't build themselves atop the consequences of your battle, can you really call yourself a master?
>>23625603The problem with this, is that it would discourage impregnating young women.
>>23625599>be me>cultivator belonging to immortal cultivation family>ancestor finally comes out of his cultivation cave after 100000 thousand years>not even 10000 >he doesn't like my drip>slaps me to death>reincarnate as an earthling>shitpost on /lit/ while trying to find a way back to my universe>can't find a way>shit my self to death whilst gooning in my goon cave>mfw it was just an illusion and I failed the test, now I have to go cultivate for 10000 years>mfwihnf
>>23625608I've never seen a good explanation of aging in a xianxia novel.
>>23623523What did he say?
>>23625390>There is a scene were the mc (15?)he's 17, he turns 18 at the end during the trial thing
Was John Brunner a cuckold? I really get that vibe occasionally reading his works. Romance and relationships only figure very rarely in his books, which isn't too unusual for science fiction, but when they do they tend to be short, disappointing, unfulfilling affairs, most commonly without either participant having much motivation to continue the relationship after the social/technological/psychological drama of the story is resolved. However cheap physical pleasure, polyamory (especially interracial), etc tends to figure heavily (especially in his magnum opus Stand on Zanzibar), but never makes the protagonists spiritually happy. In an "about the author" blurb in one novel he reveals that he lived with his wife "and a friend" in a flat in London. It really suggests to me that this man might have been a cuckold living in sexual inferiority to his own wife's possessor.
>>23623701Off the top of my head I can think of Rumo & His Miraculous Adventures. It's not exactly a book of politics like what you seem to be looking for but it does have a very important subplot revolving around that. The book is a standalone and pretty bizarre but it is essentially an adventure story.But I can't think of any more standalone book with those exact requirements, desu.
>>23623855>5 book series genre fiction that is just all lore and gay sex?Stop reading gay fantasy. And no, if you know what books to read you will never get tired
>>23623855>What about insanely bloated, word count maxing, 5 book series genre fiction that is just all lore and straight sex?
>>23623855>Don’t you ever get tired of reading insanely bloated, word count maxing, 5 book series genre fiction that is just all lore and gay sex?Yes, that's why I switched to xianxia a decade ago and never looked back.
>>23624332The good thing is that Sanderson moves the plot forward. I'm not much of a plotfag but to have Jordan wander around for nearly 4,000 pages was pretty frustrating.
I'm kinda burned out by Malazan tbhfam. On book 8 atm so I probably gonna finish it eventually but man it's hard to get back into it after a long pause.
>>23624459>kikes and women are the reasons why you can't get laidThis but unironically
>>23622839Hard to believe sanderson inspired this. I guess he was like: "Damn if this middle school writing can make millions then I can print money"
>>23624547Nta but I talk shit on women with my mom. What are you gonna do about it, sweaty?
>>23625682>Sanderson moves the plot forwardHAHAHAHSHA
>>23624922When it comes to passive-agressive bullshit, sometimes the best option is to not even acknowledge it. But other times, just call it out and make the person spell it out like>Congrats on your children's books!>Oh, you read them?>N-no>Then shut the fuck up, granny trannyAnd then proceed to shit on her desk
>>23625703How is that not true? Books 12-14 literally cram as much loose ends as they can and also ties them all up.
>>23625711Come on, say it. Name the book(s) you know I'm talking about.
>>23624646Just post the meme
I dropped MT after orsted, but read a doujin and was like OH he goes back in time and the story loops sound lit. Nope, it was exactly as predictable as I thought, orsted literally tells you how the story will end and what rudy will do and he does that and then the story ends.
>>23625703>>23625720he's talking about wheel of time you schizo
gardens of the moon is so cool. it's been over 10 years since ive last read it, and i think i'm enjoying it a lot more now. probably because the way erikson is introducing all these legends, and me having some idea of who's who. it's just SICK, man
>>23625774i liked it on first reading anyway, i'm not really sure why people think it sucks. i like books just dropping you straight in to the world and the characters
Is cradle the only western xianxia that isn't a webnovel? When does the protagonist learn to fly? What book does he get his immortal boat?
>>23625807>protagonistSorry, I meant mc.
>>23625682Jordan had this aggravating way of spending ten chapters detailing the minutia of a characters progress, would build up to some grand climax, and he'd spend a single sentence on that.Like 20,000 words of foreplay then >and rand drew his sword and stabbed ezekielmael and he died. The next day....If Jordan had written the last three novels, he would've made #14 just an epilogue of #13.Sanderson was unironically a better choice for the conclusion. It was a breath of fresh air when there was actual payoff.Sanderson also Sanded off the rough edges of Nynaeve and I assume Elayne (i quit reading her chapters in book 10). Horrid characters under Jordan.
>>23625831What? Is wot progression lit now? I read that shit in middleschool and there wasn't a stat menu to be seen.
What book was this I read?>cardboard cutout characters>excessive world building>some witch that is killed in a purge and enters a 6yo girls body and joins the group>edgy superevil thugs with demon dogs>ten part series or something>wizard battles on an empty plain near some cityI quit after this book.Second one>opening to another big series>starts in dungeon>le evil zealous torturerI couldn't get farther than the first 25 pages. I want to say this one was Abercrombie.
>>23625838English?
>>23625841>What book was this I read?gardens of the moon. and you're a BITCHand 'the blade itself', yea
>>23625831Incredibly poor bait
I appreciate edgy characters when there is sufficient scale (worldbuilding).
>>23622860>Witcher Read the first two volumes, which are short stories. Very nice and comfy ready, some are fun spins on fairy tales. It goes downhill quickly after that>GOTCurrently at the third book (audiobook, and in my native language), really liking it, the multiple pov characters brings a nice variety in the information given and how the lanaguages changes naturally. Cool and mysterious world building as said above, the show really didn't delivered on the fantasy elements and the sheer scale of the cities and the iron throne itself.Tyrion and Sansa pov chapters are great, probably my favorite among the whole cast regarding what it focuses on and how it's narrated.>Black company Got all of the volumes as I gifted to my father. Who liked it a lot, but I can't really speak for it myself.
>>23625892>Read the first two volumes, which are short stories. Very nice and comfy ready, some are fun spins on fairy tales. It goes downhill quickly after thatIt was same experience for me, although I have read them years ago as a teenager. Might view sequels differently now, but maybe for the worse.
What the fuck is wrong with chinks? Why does this novel have 12 million words?21755 instances of the word "face" 182052 "yang"113967 "kai" 182052 times. That's the mc's name repeated more time than there are words in new spring. Seriously? Go fuck yourself. Kill all chinkshit posters
>>23625769And the anon who responded wasn't, autismo.
>>23625849If the characterization was better I would've stuck with malazan (yes that is the one), despite the warnings of it being convoluted. It wasn't bad otherwise.Did I miss anything with Abercrombie? His writing came off as amateurish and clichéd.
>>23625852She said as she tugged her braid. "Men, amirite sister," Elayne nodded, haughtily, "you go girl. What about my castle tho, life is so hard, I have to like literally feed myself now, what the fuck!" "Don't worry girlfriend, I'll use my ubermagic I get from charging up my braid by tugging it and venting about men to make a magic box that will feed you." [500 pages of Perrin explaining that he's not dumb he just thinks longer, detailing how he thinks longly] [2000 pages about how egwene has to endure mild torture and humiliation] [a one paragraph Ultimate Showdown between rand and villain-du-jour]
>>23625955>12 million words>182052 timesonly 1.5% of the textHarry potter is 1 million words and has 'Harry' 18956 times or 1.7%
>>23623105Yu Nigg'er
>be in coma for 2 days on the verge of death>miraculously wake up and immediately teleport to another side of the continent>casually stroll through town, proceed to follow a mage on steroids to another cursed town>walk around, shoot some lighting, swing your flaming sword and chill on a wall>steroids mage dies on his own and you get crowned a king>all in a spam of few hoursYep, it's another last chapter of wot
This whole site should be taken down under us obscenity laws.
>>23626231Obscenity laws aren't going to stop me from plowing your mum.
>>23626000Arguing that Chinklit is on the same level as Harry Potter isn't the flex you think it is.
>tried reading stormlight #4 after a long break between #3>have no idea what the fuck is going on>read a recap>it sounds retarded and kills any desire to read the actual booki'm a branderson hater now i guess
>>23625969I'm reading Abercrombie right now. It's by no means high literature, but it's also above young adults, and it's entertaining.
>>23626314Cool it with the autism little bro. Go outside, touch grass.
>>23626314Imagine reading books written by people whose thought processes sound like this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePWKvg_SDVI
>>23626231Why?
>>23625370That is very based.
>>23626351Abercrombie is fun (excluding the latest trilogy), anyone who disagrees has a stick up their faggot asses. It's not high literature, and it's not meant to be.
>have passed over prince of thorns multiple times>read some reviews>a woman complaining about rapeokay i'm in
>>23626440Because The legalist philosopher Guan Zhong (720–645 BC) declared that "the monarch and his subjects no matter how great and small they are complying with the law will be the great order."
>>23626471This and its sequel series were decent.
>>23626471>"Water! Water! It's always water with the dying. Strange, it's killing that gives me a thirst."
>>23626000Harry Potter sucks as well.
>>23623471It's about relativity, the speed of light is the same across all frames of references
>>23626481But obscenity laws are virtually sunset. Applying an outmoded law to something so broad and interpretive would destabalize the entire legal system.
>>23625967Yes I was, you mongoloid.>>23624332>Also makes me hesistant to finish WOT cause I know there's invisible prose waiting for me at the end.>WOT>invisible prose>implying SandersonStick to pretty picture books, schizo anon.
>>23626582>Stand against the wall degenerate k***. I'll make this quick. *bang*These laws are still in effect and are used every day. Playing word games won't help you.
>>23626586>IWhy are yoy pretending to be me?
>>23626604>and are used every dayno they arent...
>>23626586>post has four replies>anon thinks its about himsad
>>23626634I was the one that made the original replies that got the schizo response, faggot. I accept your tranny concession.
>>23626619I made this reply, you piece of garbage >>23625711
Last for xianxia >>>/new/
Any other underrated books similar to pic related?
>>23626642the chain was>>23624332>>23625682>>23625703
>>23626647Fucking and? That's not the reply anon was referring to.
>>23626740I couldn't finish this on my first try because he made the main character an elf with a long white moustache, and I could not get over how retarded it looked in my head. I hope one day I can come back to it because I like his writing style.
Who else knows every region and culture of the Hyborian Age? It's sincerely more interesting than Middle Earth and should be considered the grandfather of the 20th century fantasy genre
>>23626847I mean it's just a bunch of real world cultures anachronistically thrown together and given edgy religions>should be considered the grandfather of the 20th century fantasy genreI think it is actually. I've seen it described as such in worldbuilding autism circles anyway.
>>23622746Test
>>23626866Status: Ribbed
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>>23622746just started reading shadow of the torturer (book of the new sun 1). it's as excellently written as I expected, considering it keeps cracking the top 100 lists. the world building is daunting at times, I'm considering for the first time in my life going back to the beginning to take notes.
>>23626847>Who else knows every region and culture of the Hyborian Age?Like thisDon't believe any of the art or any shit that secondaries postThere have been almost zero pieces of art that accurately conform to howard's vision of the hyborian age>It's sincerely more interesting than Middle Earth and should be considered the grandfather of the 20th century fantasy genreIt's funny because middle earth is less technologically advanced compared to the Hyborian age but if you only relied on post hoc artists you'd think the oppositeMiddle earth is dark ages/migration era mail and shieldwalls, the Hyborian age is late medieval/renaissance knights and full plate armor
>>23626869>cliches LE BADYou will never make anything this cozy.
>>23626888Dibs on Old Town btw
>>23626881Reading Rogues in the House made me realize this, just how advanced the knowledge and technology of the Hyborian Age was supposed to be. The Red Priest Conan was sent to assassinate had a mansion equipped with technology dwarfing anything in middle earth
>>23626888we postin' genericino?
>>23626974I like that this one has trade routes (of silly things)
>>23626990>>23626988generica hivemind
>>23626995>Suckmarsh
>>23626888>>23626974>>23626988>>23626995What would be the sci-fi equivalent to these settings?
>>23627012A galaxy map with an inner core of cityscape hive world planets, a middle ring of agricultural worlds and an outer ring of savage wasteland worlds coming from a center sun
>>23627012stellaris
>>23627012Probably uninteresting for a novel, but I'd be fully on board for a ttrpg campaign here
Recc some fantasy whose author isn't a manchildHard mode: the author is still alive
>>23626869You can't be generic if you were the first one to do it in the 1920s
>>23627012>no GolgotterathYour map is wrong.
>>23627012>>23627027Can't forget the portal (gate, ring, wormhole, etc.). Giant fleet of planetless nomads. The mechanized planet. The uncivilized planet. An uncharted nebula.
>>23624251I read the entire series recently and I enjoyed it. But I don't mind first person.Main character is a bit of a cynic but ends up with quite an arc in regards to his opinion on religion which I enjoyed.
>>23627077Sarah Maas.
Has there been any good xanxia released lately? Give me some recs
Garo or Kamen Rider-esque webnovels
>>23626881>insists the Hyborian Age is late medieval/renaissance era>posts an image showing it's a hodgepodge of whatever REH thought was coolest for whatever time period, ranging from late medieval back to antiquity and tribal culturesk
>>23627433Advent of Immortal Truth
>>23625684really? It's hard for me to get into anything else when taking a pauge. I just finished Toll the Hounds and it was one of my favorites. I hear it's a common slog point but there's lots like me that take it slow and savor Erikson's writing page by page. my boy Kallor gets some good page time and I liked the climax/ending too. >>23625774I don't know that I'd reread the whole series but I could see GotM benefiting the most from one yea.>>23625790most fans agree his prose improves a lot from 1 to 2 and then steadily plateaus at high quality, then there's the sizeable portion of vocal people that want simple sentence genrefare or get too confused and drop it.
>>23627452The Hyborian Age is pre-history, isn't it? I believe the frozen north is basically all of Europe, because of the Ice Age, and the stories are mostly taking place kind of in North Africa or the Middle East. As for Howard's influences, yeah, he's just pulling from whatever he thinks is cool, without much real regard for accuracy.
>>23627452Secondary detectedthere are regions of this world today that remain in the stone age yet we don't call our modern world a "hodgepoge" ranging from 21st century to stone-ageThe most advanced kingdoms in the Hyborian age have a late 15th/early 16th century technology level. Other parts of the world farther away from the Hyborian western kingdoms vary in advancement. This is ignoring the fact that that howard also took inspiration from 17th century pirates and 19th century afghanistan and 18th century frontier americaRegardless the most advanced nations in the Hyborian age, the Hyborian core, mitra worshipping nations roughly based off western european nations are renaissance in technology level so it makes sense to call the hyborian age vaguely renaissance/medieval
>>23627623I fuckin loved Toll the Hounds, but like nothing happens for the first ~60% of it. And even then, a lot of plotlines fall flat for me, I didn't really care for the Nimander stuff or the later Seerdomin plotline (maybe I just hate the dying god stuff). Enjoy Dust of Dreams anon, I'm on track to finish it tomorrow night and it's pretty alright, way too many new factions and PoVs though
>>23625603>>23625608Sounds retarded.A cultivator would have to have bodyguards to stop the dick/pussy from assaulting them while they sleep.
Just finished the Agent Cormac series. Transformation or Rise of the Jain next? Not really into the aids jungle planet thing.Also, Kill AIs, behead AI golems, hyperaccelerate a technician out of a runcible, slam dunk Earth Central AI into the trashcan, report AI agents to the separatists, curbstomp a hAIman and throw them into a volcano etc etc
How do you write a series when you plan for the MC (the main draw of the series, typically) to die?
>>23627780You build up an ensemble cast while the MC is alive.
>>23627787So basically you try to make at least a few characters that are worth following?Or else you try to make the kids of the MC/others involved worth following?
>>23624251The first book is really good. Series tapers off after that.
>>23627715You don't call those stone age civilizations modern or 1st world. You aren't in an advanced civilization when you are in their camps or villages. Likewise, Conan isn't in an medieval civilization when he's fighting picts or blacks in the jungle, or in a stygian town. You're calling people secondaries because of art that depicts Conan always in a stone age setting but you're just as retarded as that art for implying he's always battling knights in full plate armor. It IS a hodgepodge of eras because Howard wanted it to be because he wanted to tell stories in many different types of civilizations. Acting like you're some enlightened individual because you read Hour of the Dragon and and know heights of Hyborian technology is fucking idiotic. The Hyborian Age isn't homogeneous and calling it a renaissance period is no more valid than your imaginary secondaries who only picture a sword and sandal setting.
>>23627780>>23627787>>23627800see game of thrones
How do you go from this...
to this?
>>23627863ewww art disgusting>>23627867is that some heckin graphic designerino
>>23627855Game of Thrones isn't finished, and thus was poorly planned.
>>23627867FINALLY! I can read this book in public without feeling embarrassed. Having a character on a cover makes it look like I'm reading a kids book! I'm glad people will think I am reading a book for adults now! :D XD
>>23627939>caring about the opinion of othersYou are an actual child.
>>23627777I've read (almost?) everything by Neal Asher, the man is criminally underread his older works still holds up tooDefinitively Transformation. Then you can read Jain if you want more, Jain gets a bit goofy at the endAbsolutely love it when he goes into detail on the anatomy and details on hot steamy alien crab sex. He also writes really exciting action scenes.
>>23627890game of thrones is finished and sets up a series without its main character, you're thinking of ASOIAF
>>23622746What are some good books/web novels that are similar to isekai but with an actual good story and compelling writing and not just being cartoony like the no personality MC is OP and gets a harem of underage girls and kills the demon lord type bullshit, something along the lines of re:zero and shield hero (before filo was introduced)
>>23627989reverend insanity
>>23627989Has anyone done the Isekai concept of 'the mc lives in the isekai world in his dreams but wakes up to his real life' yet?
>>23628049That's fucking gay but probably? "It was always a dream bro" is a fairly common thing in visual novels
>>23626847I compare it favorably to Clark Ashton Smith's Hyperborea or Zothique. Howard almost uniquely in that domain of similar constructed worlds manages to convey an actual geography to the whole ordeal. Possibly because Conan is a throughfare to the setting and interacts with polities on multiple levels.
>>23628049Isn't that just Thomas Covenant
>>23625680Recs?
>>23628184DE, ISSTH, ATG, CD, MW, RI (er gen), ST, ToDaG, TMW, WotMW, AWE, HSFor starters then find reviewers and authors you like and check their profile and other books on novelupdates
>>23627719re:Toll the HoundsNimander plot was not terribly interesting but I still enjoy the narrative techniques and characterization in the writing. Dying god plot felt VERY tabletop RPG which I kind of enjoyed as a horror tinged side story in the pursuit and exploration. I can see Seerdomin not hitting except I thought the Itkovian reprisal was great! and a very necessary ideological rejoinder to his simplistic philosophy of forgiveness and absolution in MoI. Looking forward to how that's extended in DoD.Harllo arc as a Rake foil was thematically/emotionally pitch perfect. I also fucking love Kruppe so this book was a treat>[H]e stared down into his stolen tankard of bad ale, and listened to those infernal bells and those oversized vultures. And that chorus was hauntingly familiar. Death, ruin, grief. ‘Hear that?’ he said to his tankard, ‘they’re playing our song.’*chef's kiss
>>23628220>Nimander plot was not terribly interesting but I still enjoy the narrative techniques and characterization in the writingSuch as?
>>23628220Yeah fair enough, I loved the horror vibes in the Nimander stuff but just didn't really care for the characters themselves and didn't understand the Dying God plot enough to really get too interested. And yeah I liked getting some more Itkovian, and I generally liked Seerdomin growing close to him and all that, I just didn't give a shit about his priestess and thought Seerdomin fighting her off went on way too long. That said, yeah the Harllo stuff was probably my favorite plotline in the book and the moment it clicked and I realized he's a foil for Anomander was one of my favorite moments reading the series. And I hard agree, Kruppe brought it from good to great
>>23628251I mean even if I'm not emotionally invested in the outcome of his personal arc I still enjoy reading how Erikson sketches his characters out using understated literary techniques and story structures - a lot comes from close reading of loaded word choice and connotation. He provides a lot of insight into the other Andii generally, those in his party and is another thematic foil for Rake
>>23628282>using understated literary techniques and story structuresSuch as?
>>23628288>rhythm, sentence pattern, sentence length, sentence structure, beat, pace, voice, point of view, tone, atmosphere, diction level, psychic distance, exposition, dialogue, setting, foreshadowing, subtext, symbol, theme, plothave you ever read a Karsa Orlong chapter?
23628296This is what /lit/fags who can't read webnovels actually believe.
>>23628296What is the difference between rhythm, beat, pace, psychic distance and sentence pattern?
>>23628296you can read the man insightfully break it down himself in this series of posts. https://lifeasahuman.com/2013/arts-culture/books/deconstructing-fiction-for-writers-and-readers-excerpt-deconstructed-2/
>>23628302Oh it's a lolcow. I get it
>Finished another book and have no idea what to readFUCK I hate reading single novels because I finish it in two sitting and then it's back to searching for something worthwhile
>>23628302The problem with doing it like this is that it's simply unscientific, people do the same thing in rhythm game communities. They construct this unrealistic model of the player or reader and then justify any nonsense that appear in their head with this ever more complicated model. It final state is a fashion club, not a research organization, as such it's accomplishments will be relegated to the runway and not the stars.
>>23628300they describe differences of alternating time, length and pattern at the syllabic, word, sentence and paragraph level. which part are you confused about? psychic distance is unrelated and self-explanatory I would hope
>>23628313bot post??
>>23628313>it final stateWhy would anybody take you seriously when you have demonstrated your lack of writing ability. Go play in the sandbox, adults are talking
Has anyone read this? Is it any good?
>>23628321>>23628323>The reader makes natural breaks He claims he can exploit this fact, but he gives and clearly has no way of quantifying it, and even if he could gives no argument as to why his way would fit his hypothetical data>The human mind likes repetitionAgain, no way of quantifying this. Would you read a novel were every sentence started with nothing? 6 is already too much in my opinion, I'm not really picking up on any rhythm here either>Nothing...inside>4-2-4-3-2-3-4-2-4 If you wanted repetition wouldn't you have 3x (4-2-4)?And besides all that is predicated on how the reader reads, and dialects have different syllable counts so the whole point is moot.You have to be delusional to think that someone would read a fantasy novel for the rhythm,or that it makes reading what, easier? Good luck testing that and coming away with a meaningful result.He is also bouncing around topics like a schizo.
>>23628302on "show don't tell" characterizationhttps://www.facebookcom/steveneriksonofficial/posts/893813617437606>>23628355did they not teach poetry at your high school?
>>23628355are you one of those lit-rpg number go up people by chance?
>>23628370>did they not teach poetry at your high school?Only elementary school, so I left it in the dust with my colored counting rods. Today I use monochromatic numerals, and monosyllabic words. >>23628375Read Everybody Loves Large Chests.
Read Tenebroum
>>23628313>>23628355not sure if trolling but yes that level of engagement is not for everyone, especially in genre, but it does contribute to the register of the Epic in epic-fantasy and a lot of it is like a magic trick that works subconsciously on the reader and it's creating that illusion with an intentionality of form and effect that takes so much practice to hone and become adept at as a writer.
What am I in for anons, absolute litkino or what>I already know hedge knight is lame
>>23626828>elf with a long white moustacheHuh, must've missed that part of the description. I always imagined Skafloc and Valgard as either clean shaven or with beards, but not with moustache's as their only facial hair, and certainly not long ones.
>>23628405Not sure if you are trolling, but I'm claiming that it doesn't work, and even if it does you haven't tested it or even defined it well enough to BEGIN testing it. Considering the fact that nobody has succeeded in the last few hundred years, and I'm sure tens of thousands of people have tried, I'm guessing it's complete bullshit.
>>23628355>The human mind likes repetitionI fucking dropped Haruhi during that repeat shit. The 2nd episode was already pissing me off and the 3rd was too much.
>>23628590Fucking lazy ass animators. Deserved what happened desu
>>23628590>haruhi vs anon vs egan vs er gen?Who wins?
I don't have much of an opinion. But I will say that trying to use pre-established language patterns is retarded. You need to set up your meter and pace, you can't just assume the readers mind will do what you want it to.
>>23628431He mistook Skafloc for Imric who does have a moustache. I'm sure Skafloc and Valgard look like your typical viking guy..
Advice on heroic fantasy? Basically I want to write a book about cool characters doing cool things.
any standalone fantasy books about a party just dungeon crawling? sword and sorcery-like, peril around every corner?
>>23628693Stakes.Dragons are big and breath fire. Flesh is easily rended.Any decent sword at all is a dangerous weapon.Your poor outland village is made out of wood and the castle, while stone, is hardly Minas Tirith.Dames are still supple even if riches are few and far between.t. never wrote in my life nor have I read heroic fantasy.
>>23628693Read ISSTH. Think WWMHD.
>>23628734guess I'll be taking that order TO GO
>>23628754>TO GOWhat books are those?
>>23628693All hero myths are based in unconscious images conflicts that exist in the psyche. Find this and you can create any hero story you want. Study psychoanalytics. What do you think Theseus and the Minotaur represent?
>>23628831minotaur represents anime cow girls
>>23627834>You don't call those stone age civilizations modern or 1st world. You aren't in an advanced civilization when you are in their camps or villagesYou aren't in an advanced civilization when you go to new guinea and surround yourself with a bunch of stone axe wielding cavemenThat doesn't mean out entire word is an ahistorical mashup because there are people existing who are less technologically advanced than us>Conan isn't in an medieval civilization when he's fighting pictsHe wears medieval armor and besides the pict vs aquilonian conflict is literally just the american frontier so it's later than medievalAquilonian frontiersmen are described as wearing buckskins and moccasins>You're calling people secondaries because of art that depicts Conan always in a stone age setting but you're just as retarded as that art for implying he's always battling knights in full plate armorWhen he is not sneaking or is not deprived of it conan is ALWAYS depicted as wearing armor. Always. He only survives in the phoenix on the sword because he is able to get some of his armor on. However because of Frazetta's fetish for half naked men the conan we have today basically has nothing in common with the conan howard wanted to depict. Like how with frazettas admittedly good painting for the frost giant's daughter conan is depicted as half naked when in the actual story he's shown as wearing stereotypical viking garb and a fur tunic>why are you so mad at people depicting the Hyborian age wronglyImagine if middle earth was ALWAYS depicted as mid 16th century in technology despite tolkien depicting it as dark ages only because a certain artist who did the first few notable LOTR covers decided it was that way. That's the way the Hyborian age is depicted in pop culture at large to the point where there are 4 artworks i can think of that accurately portray howard's vision>muh hour of the dragonIt's far more than one story. The entire main hyborian kingdoms are 16th century in technology. That's a huge portion of the Hyborian world
>>23628831>Theseus and the Minotaur represent?Theseus represents Athens and the minotaur represents Crete. It's like asking what psychological archetype Captain America represents.
>>23628834>>23628870Delve deeper into your unconscious mind, where the truth of the human soul lives
>>23627863>>23627867I'm so happy I found the full tetralogy with the classic cover in English (I'm Swedish) at a yardsale a couple months ago for the equivalent to 7 bucks. Had been looking to get it but had been holding out since I thought all the currently available editions for it looked like dogshit. Haven't started it yet though, probably getting to it soon.
>>23628693>>23628831>>23628870The Hero with a Thousand Faces
>>23628870>what psychological archetype Captain America representsA turbo-closeted homosexual?
Just finished Tigana., and can I just sayDianora is one of the most spineless, pathetic, disgusting characters I have had the displeasure of reading. Seriously, what the fuck was Kay thinking. Can't believe people empathise with this bitch. Morally complex my asshole, Brandin is a cartoonishly evil piece of shit. Literally mindbroke his enemy and kept him as a pet for 20 years. What the fuck are people smoking when they praise the moral complexities and sympathetic villains. Are they just psychopaths?
>>23628069It isn't a dream, per se, though the worlds are separate: when he goes to sleep, he experiences the other world. When he wakes up, he goes back to his real life.In essence, he's never really sleeping.Moreover, even if it is a dream, it feels real to him.
>>23626847>>23626888>>23626974>>23626988>>23626995>>23627012Even if some of these are jokes, I fucking love Maps
>>23629154The evil lands must always be desert.Just because.I want evil tropical jungle. That shit is evil irl
>>23628430Read the Thorn novella.Is the series good? I was underwhelmed.Like 50 pages of meandering setup for the climax of>we die I dunnoSlightly less pointless than Hedge Knight.
>>23629529>>23629529>>23629529New!
>>23626828Make him look like a magic elf cowboy.There, just saved your brain.Old guys are cool. You need the 50 year old veteran to do some hardcore things when hardcore things start happening.Think Father Gascoigne (if he had a mustache)
>>23628831My fear of a big maze with no lights and very very slight claustrophobia?
>>23622839>the story itself is extremely YAYA is so fucking gay. Thanks for taking the bullet so serious readers can avoid this shite.
>>23622957ya slop
>>23623714the best piece of brainwashing fiction ever published.
>>23625649>Rumo & His Miraculous Adventures>The book is a standalone and pretty bizarre but it is essentially an adventure story.a book for the lowest common denominator
>>23623730>>23624562really hope someone finally has the balls to plaster a picture of his face online.
>>23624640the comma splices are painful. people read this shit?
