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/mu/ is dead
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>>129455768
The Beatles killed /mu/
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>>129455768
At least it died doing what it loved most.
Well..?
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>>129455768
based on what evidence?
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>>129455768
i like internet ghost towns
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>>129455862
>>129426154
>>129447389
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>>129455862
>>129385484
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>>129455862
>>129442428
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>>129455884
>>129455891
>>129455903
you don't like 4 threads out of 150 and that means the board is dead?
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>>129455903
Hey! Would you prefer how it was before the general when we had 5-10 livvy threads at the same time?
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>>129455933
There are a lot more terrible ones but these ones stick out as evidence of the boards death
>>129455949
You guys don’t stay in your container
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>>129455891
>>129455903
At least those two put in effort to be helpful with info. Hayley is pure spam and I don't even know what the yellow-green one is.
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>>129455957
Ok RIP then. May it trudge along for many more years. I'll miss it if something happened to it.
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>>129455957
I don't see any other livvy threads right now
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>>129455978
>put in effort
I wouldn’t call copy/pasting the same wall of links over and over “effort”
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LONG LIVE /MU/
BE IT DEAD OR ALIVE
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what is dead may never die OP
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>>129456003
>>129451515
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tfw no gf
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>>129456030
That's not fair. Why not have only one thread named MUSIC then.
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>>129456035
lel
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>>129455768
Good, may real music discussions take its place.
/mu/ culture is embarrassing and the sooner it is forgotten the better.
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>>129456082
No one cares anymore. There are what... 300 posters on the board? 500?
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>>129456082
/thread
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>>129456089
I’d say less than 100
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>>129455768
Can't speak for all boards, but every single board I visit is a little like that now.
Sometimes I get the impression most posters now have Reddit, Twitter and 4chan open at the same time, and that they just screenshot whatever the see on one site and post it on some other. Maybe refreshing tabs every 20 seconds like they're fiending for a reaction, any reaction
Besides it's weird how every single board must have like 5 or 6 active threads at all points that are just for jerking off. Specially strange when there are boards made just for that. I once looked inside a Kpop thread and there were basically no words about the music, just endless posting of videos and the very occasional quip on which artist you want to fuck the most
I think at this point the healthy way to use this site is to just open the board like once or twice a day at most, look for a thread that isn't awful and, if any, leave an on-topic post and then do something else. Thinking you'll be able to have interesting discussion for as little as 10 continuous minutes is lunacy
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>>129456126
Seriously?
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>>129456132
>I once looked inside a Kpop thread and there were basically no words about the music, just endless posting of videos and the very occasional quip on which artist you want to fuck the most
of course it is those are robot threads with no human posting in them
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>>129456182
i find it easier to believe it's just wankers
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>>129456156
50 optimistically. including 10 no life autists who do 90% of the work.
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>>129456339
jfc
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>>129456089
if the remaining population is a significant portion of musicians and people who actually explore stuff on their own, even with the gooners it's better than the 9th circle of fantano and /mu/-essentials inferno that has been going on for more than 10 years
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>>129456441
in fact i just took a quick look, today is absolutely blessed, i can't understand how you can see this and think this is a bad state for the board to be in
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>>129456456
what's so special bout today
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>>129456491
NTA but the bad bunny hype died off and so there's less politislop flooding the board than usual, although there is one thread in the catalog still by some schizophrenic tankie spouting weird delusions about rap music or something
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>>129456491
slightly more original discussions than usual
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The board will never come back to life as long as the waifu/kpop fags are allowed to spam relentlessly. Simple as.
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>All the top 10 biggest threads are Kpop threads
>Discussion about actual albums barely gets 20 posts

I honestly prefer the days where this board circlejerked over Neutral Milk Hotel 24/7.
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>>129456554
What about Beatle threads?
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>>129456554
there's one ongoing thread on whether boards of canada is a hip hop group and it's the most braindead thing i have seen in years
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>>129456339
>including 10 no life autists who do 90% of the work
is that including Christgaufag and that 50s music guy?
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>>129456539
>>129456554
please nuke weeb shit from music culture
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>>129456300
No it's literally an automated spambot. The threads don't behave like they're made by human posters.
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>>129456554
>I honestly prefer the days where this board circlejerked over Neutral Milk Hotel 24/7.
no. begone.
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>>129456539
Tbf, there ARE music discussions in kpg from time to time, but 90% at least is absolutely deranged porn addicts. I don't think people who care about the music stay there
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>>129456621
What do you prefer we talk about then?
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>>129456633
waifus
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Remove kpoop and board is solved, kpoop is the only problem
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>>129456539
>>129456628
Kpop is not a serious music genre, the people who listen to it are not people who are serious about music, that's why the threads are less about the music itself and more about celebrity culture and gooning. The wpop threads are the same way but they're not spamming 50 threads all over the catalog every hour like some mindless drones like the kpopfags are.
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>>129456652

the board will not improve until you wankers realize waifus are within the rules and not part of the problem.
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>>129456656
No shit, it's not a music genre. It's pop music from Korea.
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>>129456661
based waifu defender
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>>129456661
Nigger, your thread is a literal chat room. Half of you came from vg and otk threads
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>>129456680
so be glad the boards is getting posts instead of being a desert
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the thing with these complaints about kpop and wpop and whatever is that if every single one of the posters was dumped in a volcano the end result would just be a low quality board

just slower

what was the last interesting thread that hit the bump limit?
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celebrity gooning is fine, but remove kpoop
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>>129456554
Iiiii love you Jeeeeesus Chiiiiist
Jeeeeesus Christ I loove you
Yes I dooo
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>>129456661
>not part of the problem.

They are the fucking problem
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>>129456706
now that /mu/ has no influence on internet we can stop pretending Neutral Milk Hotel was good right
we have no one to trick into listening to shitty music anymore. so we can drop that
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>>129456661
The rules need to be adjusted to keep waifufags and kpoopers out. Even with the rules we have, if there was proper moderation the waifu/kpop spam needs cleaned up and contained.
>>129456696
Nobody even bothers making good threads anymore, everything gets churned down the catalog by kpop and waifu slop. More posts =\= equal higher quality
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>>129456656
>the people who listen to it are not people who are serious about music
This is not true at all. It's not a homogenous genre, there's bad and good music like everywhere else. Some posters there are metal and gg crossposters. Some people try talking about the music. The majority are the absolute cancer and I don't know what they are doing here in the first place.
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>>129456554
we have threads too bad they're this. back in 2015 unironic KISS threads would not be tolerated.

https://desuarchive.org/mu/thread/129350106/
https://desuarchive.org/mu/thread/129332563/
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>>129456736
Better than whatever shit you listen to
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>>129456719
>Music production IS
>LE BAD!!

>>129455768
Just make the threads you like you faggots
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I WANNA SEE OLIVIA’s RODRIGO
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the K-Poop threads are bots as anon said

>always one active and on page 1 at all times of the day
>all go to the bump limit extremely fast
>no discussion just image dumping
>as soon as one hits the bump limit another is automatically made
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>>129456736
>now that /mu/ has no influence on internet
when can we stop pretending it ever did?
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>>129456788
It's worse anon. It's actual real autists
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>>129456762
the thing is that if people treated it as an actual music genre it would be suffice to have at most one general up like prog and metal do, not actually five
or maybe people would just make threads on the genre and specific artists and albums sporadically instead of a general being up all the time
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why are their kpop threads on /bant/? IS this all bots?
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>>129456767
I hate to keep reiterating, but what about Unironic Beatles threads?
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>>129456633
how about something that hadn't already been discussed to death within the first 3 months all the way back in 2012 or so? like how is this even a question? listen to music, search for stuff you like on the vast internet, and when you find something cool, post it. is it that complicated? what does debating which radiohead album has a higher musical DBZ-style power level for the 500000th time do for you?
i despise fantano, essentials charts, RYM, and the people who keep spreading that shit here, because the discussion becomes about those things, not about music, it's one level removed from music. all you do discuss what some random grifter says in this week's algorithm slop video, RYM tranny ratings, and how original your ordering of the same 20 or so albums as everybody else on your chart is. no one has anything to say about the music itself, obviously, since nobody who does this is a musician, nor do they even know the genres well.
secondly, and i feel stupid for even daring to expect or hope for it, this is a music board, you'd think there'd be more discussions on MAKING music.
and the KPOP seething is a cope by the very people who are the problem. the KPOP threads are like 90% bots who basically don't interact with the rest of the board at all. they're definitely not why it's dead.
kill it with fire.
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>>129456807
Well that's why I said 90% of posters there are degenerate human failures. They actively ridicule anyone talking about the music, they have their own sub-culture, they know each other even without namefagging. And don't even try checking the thread in /trash/ which again is mostly the same posters as here on /mu/. It's a pedophile gooner central. I would've loved it to be just about the music but I have no idea if it's even possble because gooners will always crawl back in.
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>>129456768
sorry kid but there is no metric on which the Anne Frank meme band beats Wayne Shorter
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>>129456827
>and the KPOP seething is a cope by the very people who are the problem. the KPOP threads are like 90% bots who basically don't interact with the rest of the board at all.
That's why they shouldn't be there. They push actual discussion off the board and you have to hide a dozen or so at any given moment.
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>>129456842
Meme jazz
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>>129456827
>KPOP seething is a cope by the very people who are the problem. the KPOP threads are like 90% bots who basically don't interact with the rest of the board at all. they're definitely not why it's dead.

Nah they are exactly why it’s dead. They shouldn’t have ever been allowed to escape their container, and they shouldn’t be allowed to make a new general until the existing one hits page 10.
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also tf's with the Hayley and Linkin Park general threads?
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>>129456843
actual discussion such as what?
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>>129456767
that's because of election tourist Trump boomers who started posting unironic threads about boomer cockrock
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>>129456775
>Just make the threads you like you faggots

This. Stop crying, make the threads you enjoy (high effort discussion retardation) and ignore whatever ones you don't like. It's not rocket science ffs.
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>>129456767
Those were actually constructive discussion of bands and music in there tbqh.
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>>129456780
absolutely based and best post in the thread
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>>129456827
>first part
I agree with you
>second part
I disagree with you
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>>129456843
>>129456853
will deleting KPOP threads address the rest of my big ass post? no, just like you didn't.
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>>129456591
the Mitch Miller schizo at least makes actual threads to discuss stuff in so he does contribute something constructive anyway
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>>129456859
he won't respond, you got him there. all these complaining retards can never point that out
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>>129456876
unironic discussion of KISS is still discussion of KISS, dude. if you weren't a zoomer you'd know that we did not allow discussion of boomer cockrock back in the day.
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>>129456856
They shouldn’t exist
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>>129456886
You didn’t say anything worth responding to, just a bunch of schizo complaining with an unjustified kpop defense at the end.
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>>129456856
Those are Indians making those. I could at least believe Olivia Rodrigo threads are organic because she's a normal chick in her 20s that normal guys could goon to but only Indians with nonexistent standards goon to those blown out grandmas.
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>>129456856
Same as any other waifu thread - Olivia, Sabrina (when it existed), Grimes, Halsey
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>>129456897
Back in the day people were shilling death grips as good music
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>>129456898
>if I like it - it should exist
>if I don't like it - it shouldn't exist

excellent logic champ

>>129456909
lel I never understood the attraction to 40yo hags
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>>129456918
Still better than Kiss
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>>129456909
Same goes with any Billie Eilish threads it's just Indians making those.
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I don't even know why I still come here, it's the same shit every day. Lazy bait, kpop gennies and cuckgau reviews. I hate this board but I can't leave
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>>129456906
the question was rhetorical, the post isn't for you, it's about you.
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The lack of electronic music discussion killed this board. It's full of americans who are pushing 40 and jammed out to Beastie Boys slop while eurochads partied to House beats.
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>>129456942
>and cuckgau reviews
sometimes those do lead to interesting discussion
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>ITT
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>>129456909
>I could at least believe Olivia Rodrigo threads are organic because she's a normal chick in her 20s that normal guys could goon to
and maybe Chappell and Sabrina threads. i'm 100% convinced threads about Hayley are Pajeet-made though.
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>>129456973
hagley poster has good English can't be a jeet
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everyone in kpop general is a real person
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>>129456993
Grim
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>>129456973
there's also Indians who sometimes make Taylor Suck threads
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/his/ is also one of my regular boards and it's one of the worst Indian-polluted boards on the site. They rendered the place nearly unusable.
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post yfw you realize all the waifu posters are real, there are no bots
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>>129456993
you have flesh and bone like we do but there is little in common between you and us
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leave livvy alone you big meanies
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>Thread about how the board is dead is the most active thread on the board
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>>129457072
lel
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How about.. and give me some rope here... we try ... bear with me... to not complain about what other people post and focus on posting whatever we like. Can we do that?
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range banning all Indian IPs would improve the board tbqh
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>>129455768
I get the frustration and I'm disappointed everytime I come on here too, but how would you try to fix it? genuinely. No one seems to like reviews either, even if they're of the 'i just found this and I luke this about it' type. Essentials charts get basic quickly and discourage diving deeper since they often act more as a checklist of albums that you need to listen to until you're allowed to talk about a genre. But what else is there to post? It also doesn't help that any genuine post that actually expresses some sort of feeling towards the music discussed gets immediately hit with post-ironic clowning.
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>>129457175
Indians are not intelligent enough to do what you are attributing to them. Austici posting day after day requires patience and low IQ people lack that.
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>It also doesn't help that any genuine post that actually expresses some sort of feeling towards the music discussed gets immediately hit with post-ironic clowning.
I think this here is the most important part about why everything is going to shit t b h.
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All we need is to ban K-Poop Fantano and boomer cockrock threads and the board will be useable.
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>>129457197
Autistic* lol, lmao
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>>129457203
And what will be left?
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A little amazed I haven't been brought up yet.

I maintain that what killed /mu/'s activity is combination of user attrition, the lack of new blood and a steadfast amount of low quality threads. Waifuists are a scapegoat for a much bigger problem afflicting this board. Even if the waifuists were all banned tomorrow, this board would suffer from a lack of serious discussion. While today isn't particularly worse than others, we still suffer from low effort shitpost threads and bait threads (can't link them all do to muh spam):
>>129456497
>>129454554
>>129457012
>>129455543
No waifuists are to be found anywhere in these threads.

>>129456521
That isn't even his first thread. The Maupinshill has been posting this conspiracy theory for months to fewer and fewer listeners.
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kpop threads are just passionate people sharing their hobby with friends. there's a lot of subject matter to work through so if you're not familiar with it perhaps they can seem like bots are posting.

my advice would be to find your own hobby instead of complaining about other people's.
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>>129457222
Based tripfag spitting facts. Anti-waifu shills have no answer for this and will ignore you.
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>>129457217
music that doesn't usually get talked about and music-making threads, what joy.
>>129457202
yeah this is the biggest reason by far
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>>129457226
>my advice would be to find your own hobby instead of complaining about other people's.

this a million times. post ij threads you enjoy and don't shit on other people's fun.
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>>129456943
>t. dumb and angry schizo
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>>129457226
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>>129457222
this
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I've never even opened a waifu thread and they don't bother me at all. You people are weird.
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>>129457222
>amazed
Nobody likes you, stop begging for attention and samefagging like you did here >>129457233 and >>129457260
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>A little amazed I haven't been brought up yet.
Hardest I've cringed in a while
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>>129457281
>>129457286
samefag
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>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T PRAISE THE TRIPFAG IF YOU AGREE WITH HIN
>YOU ARE SAMEFAGGING

cringe
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>>129457299
that's right bb lick his balls too
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Yet another thread ruined by the trolling triptard, samefagging yet again.
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>>129457296
>photoshop
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>>129456859
Prompt methods of suicide.
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>>129457313
Go away
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>>129457313
In 57 seconds dawg?
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>>129457309
Proof?
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>>129457330
Kys waifufag scum
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>>129457328
Yes? I can do it in 30.
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>>129457281
Cry more, faggot.
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WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OF DEADMAU5
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>>129457339
So no proof of samefaggng? Got it.
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>>129457351
WHAT IS THAT?
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>>129457272
the argument being made is that a billion waifu threads slide better threads into the archive even if you never interact with them much like noise drowning the signal

the counterpoint is that there really aren't that many good threads in the first and the few good ones die after half a dozen replies and thus would die even without a billion waifu threads

the quality over quantity argument could fly but if you were to actually enforce quality somehow you'd basically have three or four threads left for the few people who actually play, read and write music since they're the ones who actually have anything interesting to say about music
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The thing you should ask yourselves, and answer yourselves not me, is why do you hate waifufags when they are less than 10% of the threads on the board while 80% of the theeads are shit. Waifu posters are not the problem.
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no matter how dogshit your thread is you can always count on the tripfag to make it worse, that's the Nineveh Guarantee™
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>>129457364
BASED WORD OF GOD BTFOS THE SPERGS
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>>129457355
>>129457330
>>129457328
>>129457327
>>129457299
Arguing with this guy will end exactly like. It doesn't matter how well you make your point or bring evidence. He'll just claim anyone supporting me is just me samefagging:
https://youtu.be/UijhbHvxWrA
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>>129457350
>screen caps wrong posts

lmao
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We need Billie Eilish to make another milquetoast political statement if we want /mu/'s activity to go up
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>>129457373
because is a 100% bad faith argument, deliberate scapegoating. there is no debate here, the people who shit up the board with /mu/-core garbage will defend it to the grave by any means. why? that i don't know.
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>>129457372
>the counterpoint is that there really aren't that many good threads in the first and the few good ones die after half a dozen replies and thus would die even without a billion waifu threads

This is what OP doesn't get. Removing all waifu shit still leaves 90% shit on the board. "Good" threads still die.
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I wonder if most people that occasionally do discuss music are just hanging out in their little discord servers
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>>129457184
>It also doesn't help that any genuine post that actually expresses some sort of feeling towards the music discussed gets immediately hit with post-ironic clowning.
This is an issue across 4 Chan. It’s the result of ceaseless rage baiting and demoralization. Everyone is tempted to act out some power fantasy of humiliating another after they have been thoroughly harassed themselves. A microcosmic example of social dissolution.
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>>129457403
I just called you cringe and then responded to someone calling *me* a samefag. Don't ever quote me again loser.
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those /mu/ in X year threads are gay
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>>129457433
no because discord servers have the exact same problems, they just look a little different. same with subreddits.
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>>129457440
yup. most threads are. removing x thread from the board won't bring quality out of nowhere. it's all bait and shit.
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Do people in kpop threads talk about the music? Do they even see themselves as part of mu?
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>>129457369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHWXx27VKMI
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>>129457437
on that note
how did "don't feed the trolls" become some forgotten ancient knowledge
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>>129457433
private servers yes. i used to hang out a lot in a few of those, it was the best of times.
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>>129457372
>>129457432
No you still don’t get it. Nobody is going to even bother to make a good thread because it’s futile, it WILL get slid off the board by kpop/emily armstrong/wpop/politcal garbage. Why even bother to make a thread when the people making the bad threads also are the jannies/mods? The odds are stacked against the good posters and in favor of the spamming retards
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And while we're at it, here are more shit threads with no waifuists present whatsoever:
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>>129444605
>>129445315
>>129455293
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>>129457454
does it matter? it's an IMAGEboard.
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>>129457437
and it doesn't just stop at 4chan. this is the entire internet now. every community of people that discusses their passions anywhere are just diluted with shitposts and engagement farming until there's nothing left.
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>>129457467
>KPOP LOOK KPOP KPOP LOOK
kys
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>>129457475
>here’s more of my biased argument
Nobody asked you. Go away fag
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>>129457467
There are no mythicsl good posters. If you remove X the threads you perceive as good will still die.
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Tell me, where are the waifuists?
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>>129451576
>>129455741
>>129454026
>>129455773
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>>129457500
There’s only one way to find out
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>>129457475
based. they hated him, because he said the truth.
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>>129457462
Easy, everyone's a troll now. If you don't want to feed the trolls you'll have to leave or not post anything at all.
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>>129457475
>>129457503
no one cares fag
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>>129457503
Knock it off you fat virgin creep
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>>129457503
PREACH

>>129457510
Because he BTFO your argument lol.
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>>129457484
Yet you didn't post any and wrote a text.
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>>129457520
>Because he BTFO your argument lol.
i am not the kpop seeting retard, however i do see an annoying tripfag
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>>129457467
Look I understand that this is how you see things but I'm not convinced this game of incentives you describe has any meaningful impact
I seriously doubt there are a bunch of effortposters in hiding, lurking and waiting for the board to slow down before they actually make good threads
I tend to think people who actually want to discuss what they find interesting on a basket weaving board will just do it
If you're one of these people who thinks twice before posting a thread I don't really know what to say
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>>129457530
>seeting
seething*
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I could keep going:
>>129444615
>>129452615
>>129454307
>>129451295
>>129450420
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Probably gonna get flamed for this but I think people underestimate how much the /pol/iticization of this whole site has hurt the smaller boards (yes I know /mu/ used to be huge I'm talking about now).
Places like /tv/ or /v/ will probably be fine because videogame and fanboyish movie culture thrive on this whole culture war shit but I dunno if that applies to a board like this one where now you can't discuss any female or black artist without half of the user base dismissing it or mocking it. I'm not even talking about modern pop stars or rap now even a Kate Bush thread is is prone to have some chuddery in it.
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>>129457542
hey what's wrong with the portuguese thread (other than it having been created by a loathsome brazilian)? he's posting music, and none that i've seen before on here.
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>>129457542
just as a litmus test please post what threads you think are actually good
because i think the argument that goes something like "these awful threads are up so why can't MY awful threads also be up?" is flawed since the cleaning has to start from somewhere
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>>129457531
this 200%
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>>129457542
>>129457503
>>129457475
HOLY BASED. Shut them up with facts. I might start doing that. Just linking the shit threads BTFOs the waifu narrative so hard.
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>>129457530
Point being: I could link to tons of low quality threads where waifuists, if present in the first place, are peripheral. You blame waifuists for bringing down the board because they're an easy target. What's killing this board is the lack of users capable of posting threads that invite discussion and encourage critical thinking. Instead, we either have irrelevant references, troll threads, bait threads or just shitpost threads.
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>>129457562
this is irrelevant, fag
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>>129457556
/tv/ is worse than /mu/ with the politics, the unique problem with /mu/ is how few people actually care about music and have an interesting taste. you can bring up some mega autism thing in any other board and at least one person might respond. i could probably make 10 threads in a row about a different artist each time that would die without a single reply here.
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>>129457531
I don't have the patience (or maybe I just lack the balls) to post about album that Iove just to get 5 replies of people making the most lowhanging jokes about it. I can handle people telling me the music is ass if that's what they genuinely believe, I like to engage with that too, but you can't even differentiate between people making fun of it because that's their opinion and people doing it just cause. I'd rather keep my favourite albums just to myself then. I guess people just see other people with better taste than themselves denigrate certain albums, therefore they think the more albums they shit on, the more alhpa their music taste must be.
has little to do with waifu posters though.
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>>129457556
Partially. I feel like the big issue no one is talking about seriously, again just memeing about uncs, is that boards become old. The original board posters are in their 30s-40s-50s now. Lots of them moved on and you're right, politicization had an impact on that. Board culture is more or less dead. For people who came later freedom of anonymity is a freedom to shit everywhere and say nigger. Look at how b is now just a porn board. Does anyone even remember that it was so much more once? That's just how the things are, the whole internet changed.
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>>129457562
Gladly. These threads are made with good intentions even if the responses fall short. I'll try to avoid genre generals:
>>129446704
>>129455236
>>129456185
>>129445888
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>>129457595
did you drop the tripfag to respond to me? or did the tripfag call some of his retard friends from his beloved fapping thread?
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>>129457637
He doesn't post there at least not with a trip
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>>129457637
the tripfag replied, i guess this >>129457595 anon just felt compelled to suck someone's cock for whatever reason
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>>129457626
>>129457637
Oh wow, you actually delivered it. I take it back. These threads are fine.

>>129457595
But I still think you're retarded
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>tripfag is talking to himself again
Yeah, turns out one barely employed schizophrenic with infinite time on his hands and infinite willpower can devote all the time and willpower just to shit up any thread with discussion on /mu/
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>>129457641
and how would you know :^)
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>>129457648
>infinite willpower

That's something to be admired tho
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>>129457602
music also not as engaging as tv. the internet has eroded a lot of people's attention spans, even if it's not directly through tiktok. not a lot of people are willing to just give a vaguely interesting looking album the 40 minute listen. this is even worse on music rating sites where people won't listen to an albums unless it has been previously approved by at least 20k rating to be enjoyable in every second. very ironic.
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>>129457649
Guess sherlock
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>inb4 thread bitching about the death of /mu/ gets 200+ replies
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>>129457666
>inb4
>is 207th reply
>inb4
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>>129455768
>>129450734
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>>129457647
These threads also aren't half bad:
>>129454101
>>129455929
>>129444552 (contentious but at least OP tried; side note: I don't like Albini)
>>129449145

These non-genre general threads actually encourage discussion.
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>>129457675
Hey congrats on getting his joke man, we're all proud of you
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>>129457666
>>129457675
>anime fag
you are meaningless
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>>129457666
it's good to see the waifu hater get told by actual facts. I doubt he has the intellectual capacity to change his hateful ways tho.
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>>129457675
it was at 195 posts when I finished typing
guess you fags just yap that fast
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>>129457691
>actual facts
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>people unironically defend unrelated softcore porn dumping erp waifu threads on /mu/
the absolute fucking state
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>>129457691
oh no, KPOP threads are absolutely degenerate garbage that adds zero value and takes up space, i just don't think they're what "killed" the board.
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>>129457706
>unrelated

Sir, please level up your reading comprehension foe the following 2 (teo) points:
1. All the pictures are musicians/singers
2. You are positng on an I.M.A.G.E.board.

Try to understand what I am saying.
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>>129457689
i think you forgot where are you are
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Point has been made. Apart from the guitar/bass, production and genre generals, threads that invite productive discussions are few and far between. As much as waifuists are scapegoated, they are a much smaller problem in the bigger picture, if they're even a problem to begin with. What kills this board are threads that only encourage rank shitposting or trolling.

For what it's worth, I don't care for KPOP at all, but they seem to be content to stay in their little corner. /wpop/ is an absolute gutter but I still frequent it because I like to challenge myself and encourage others to listen to my darling.
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>>129457706
>retarded fantano faggots use kpop threads as scapegoats to distract from the fact that there was almost no good discussion anyway, forcing people to defend said kpop threads
this is the real state
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>>129457715
correct. the problem is not that.
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>>129457741
>guitar/bass general
>invites productive discussions
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>>129457738
I don't think you need 5 threads buddy
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>>129457715
It’s the poor/biased/non existent moderation that has killed it, the kpop threads are a symptom
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>>129457761
>backtracking

I accept your concession
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>music threads are bad
>waifu threads are good
I'm so tired.
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>>129457738
Don't use words next time, just post pictures, retardigno. It's an iMaGe board after all.
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>>129457754
I'm not terribly familiar with them but at least they keep their shitposting contained to one designated thread.

Anyway, this board has far too few productive discussions and far too much shitposting. Waifuists are not to blame. Shitposters are.
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>>129457776
I am not the person you were replying to and I seriously don't give a shit about bump limits as mentioned in >>12945776 because you can just spam. Now explain to me how on earth 7 kpop threads being created in less than half a day nearly all of them reaching bump limit does not count as said spam
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>>129457800
Shut the fuck up waifufag
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thoughts?
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>>129457798
>>129457808
>the last stage of being unable to handle your arguments getting BTFO is SEETHING

checks out. you lost the debate.
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>>129457788
I never said that at all. If you want to know what active threads I consider good, check these:
>>129457626
>>129457686
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>>129457804
Because people post in them ar that speed. There is nothing malicious in it.
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>>129457804
i think it's kind of cute how all of them are ALL CAPS except for the one in the middle
whoever made that one is still getting the hang of it
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>>129457830
bot narrative BTFO too
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Don't cry when the only people left would be gooner waifufags then.
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>>129457864
I won't. It is what it is. So stop crying about them now.
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>>129457812
everywhere i look
i just see you
on your own
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yall got too much free time kek
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nmixx bros how are we holding up
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Good threads:
>>129457781
>>129426408 (side note: I find the Maupinshill tedious and irritating but this thread invites discussions about music and its relation to politics/cultuer)

Bad threads:
>>129447958
>>129457799
>>129451982
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>>129457892
you're typing like a twenty year old
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>>129457892
You are and always will be an egotistic cunt that nobody on this board ever enjoyed interacting with in any manner whatsoever. Even your mere presence ruins any thread you decide to vomit in with your worthless contributions.
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>>129457892
someone (me) just made that zappa thread good
you should check it out
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>>129457905
Can you see the irony here, idiot?
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>>129455933
>4 threads
there are currently 20 kpop threads.
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>>129457915
oh no
it's gone already
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>>129456918
Nowadays they shill Bad Bunny as "good music" to "own ICE."
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>>129457924
you can't count, we understand
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>>129457924
Even if the kpop threads were all nuked or given their own board, /mu/ would still suffer from rampant shitposting. Apart from what I already linked to, here are more shitpiles:
>>129457563
>>129457890
>>129445173
>>129457867
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>>129457939
now count all the kpop "band-specific" threads. sserafim, etc
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>>129457939
>it's not actually 20
>it's actually JUST 7!!!
are you just being pedantic by taking the post at face value? when you're past two concurrent threads it's already too much
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>>129457942
>doesn't mention benefaggot shill threads that are CLEARLY against board rules
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>>129457924
made me check. it's 13
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>>129457939
are duplicate threads against board rules? yes or no.
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>>129457939
>phoneposter
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>>129457957
see
>>129457960
and reply.
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>>129457939
I made one of those!
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>>129457951
???

I have no idea what thread you're talking about.
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>>129457957
13 is too much, hell, 5 at a given time would be too much. Why the fuck do mods allow this shit again?
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>>129457967
>>129457960
don't bother
he'll just say duplicate threads are fine when they reach the bump limit which is true on a technicality but when you're at 7 threads the rule starts to feel like a loophole and it raises some serious eyebrows on the organicity of the posts
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>>129457967
technically it's only one active kpop general and one active thread of kpop groups they have. all the others are dead bump limit reached threads. the duplicates are being purged by jannies. if a kpop thread reaches image limit they keep posting until they reach the regular limit. so it's all within the rules
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>>129457987
>I can even predict your angle.
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>>129457203
Speaking of banning Fantano, why not just ban e-celeb threads in all boards in general? /v/ has been suffering from this cancer for too long.
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>>129457993
yeah because that's what any reasonable person would say. they are within the rules technically, that's what anon was asking about. i don't know what else you expected
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>>129457987
kill yourself, faggot. you're in a thread talking about why this board is dead, then you defend one of the main reasons that killed this board. you are allowed 1 (ONE) bump limit thread. not two. not three. not fifteen. how are FIFTEEN threads required to replace ONE thread that has hit bump limit? if you can explain it using actual logic, i'll paypal you $100
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>>129458008
do you have the same issues with metal, gg and wpop threads or any other general? that's just how it works, kpop threads have more people i guess
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>>129458008
NTA, but they need 15 threads because having artificially inflated high numbers gives kpoppers a feeling of superiority. same with streaming music videos etc. they're like investors, all their joy is derived from seeing the number go up, doesn't matter what it represents.
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>>129458006
and a reasonable person would answer your claim with what I said before you even opened your damned mouth, so why don't you answer that? 7 fucking threads my man, clogging the catalog
at this point it IS a mere technicality and a sign the older rules are insufficient
there is no point in insisting it is within the rules since the damned rules are not being effective in stopping precisely this behavior

>>129458008
if you actually look at the time the kpop generals are being made it's like one every hour
bizarre posting speed. kpopfags
please
settle down
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>>129458018
The metal, gg, and wpopfags don't spam 10 threads at a time like mindless drones everytime the current one ends, they're not the ones actively pushing real music threads off the catalog constantly.
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>>129458018
>do you have the same issues with metal, gg and wpop threads
all of those shitty faggot generals start one thread to replace the old one that got bump limited. i feel like you're pilpul'ing me. you can't be this retarded. again. explain why FIFTEEN generals can somehow replace one without threads being pruned. $100 to your paypal.
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>>129458037
??? you realize you're talking to different people right?
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kpop threads will keep coming
you all will keep whining
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Reminder that we have 6 (six) boards dedicated to videogames, a board dedicated to fucking v-tubers, but for some reason adding a k-pop board or a music/general board is a step too far for the idle leaders of this website
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>>129458037
kpop record companies pay 4chan to allow shilling. anybody can do it if they have enough money. /mu/, /tv/, and (unironically) /pol/ are the biggest culprits. shit that would earn anybody else a permaban for repeated shilling is completely allowed. jannies don't make money, but the chan does. which just makes it even more embarrassing for the j(tr)annies, because they're lining pockets of investors for FREE
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>>129458043
alright
but before this poster >>129457987 even opened his mouth I had already posted a reply to his claims, which is the post directly above it, which hasn't been addressed
i then repeated my main claim on this post right here >>129458037 and it also has not been addressed
wonder why that is
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>>129458042
nigger are you retarded or what? you asked me if that is within the rules, i gave you an answer - it is within the rules. what else do you want from me? go fucking cry or something fag
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>>129458049
there's no way near enough traffic to warrant giving K-pop its own board
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>>129458067
>it is within the rules
duplicate threads are against the rules. once a thread reaches bump limit, the first duplicate thread is allowed. all subsequent duplicate threads are to be pruned. you don't know shit about your balls.
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>>129458042
If, for whatever reason, kpop got its own board, we'd still have the same problems previous mentioned. An overwhelming presence of threads that don't promote serious discussions about music and instead bait others into hostile exchanges. That has always been a problem and continues to be, but in years past, a massive plurality of /mu/tants could talk about music. I'm not so convinced that's possible these days.
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when was /mu/ ever not "dead"? i dont even get it, this has always been a shit board.
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>>129458073
This website is full of dead boards that were created purely as containment boards for spamming retards, that's why /mlp/ was created for example, because they were spamming /co/ so much it warranted a containment board. Kpop should be no exception
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>>129458083
/mu/ was better when it was mostly nerds collabing on recording projects with the RARE "what did you guys think of this album" thread
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>>129458080
>Please try to keep duplicate topics to a minimum by always searching for an old or active thread before posting a new one. Do not post a continuation of a thread until the bump limit is reached.
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>>129458097
What helped was that there was a massive plurality of users capable of sharing and discussing music. We used to have /sharethreads/ as little as three years ago, but now, they're exceedingly rare these days.
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>>129458101
this guy gets it. board rules. 15-20 simultaneous threads? that's range-ban territory. but the chan gets a kickback from the record companies that produce the music
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>>129458083
loss of seriousness is seen everywhere, people pretend it is "irony" but people are just incompetent.
you pretend like they can if they just try harder.
they can not. it is incompetence not unwillingness.

this self pity / your mom said you are special thing is very millenial.
zoomers are just evil for no real reasons other than extreme frustration.
i cant blame them.

the problem is gen x died in l arge numbers to heroine so millenials overran them. it is always just a demographic problem, just check the numbers.

on total numbers there are less zoomers than millenials and they will always be blamed in the future and their rebuttal will never be enough, numbers game.

you can see this everywhere.
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Stop posting things I don't like!!
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>>129458119
They are not simultaneous.
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>>129458126
as long as it's within board rules. there are rules, donnie.
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>>129458126
dogfucker
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quite remarkably, while you faggots complained about 7 threads, they actually became 8
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>>129458134
>They are not simultaneous.
i'm not sure you understand what "simultaneous" means...

let's try an exercise:
>Do not post a continuation of a thread until the bump limit is reached.
what does that sentence mean to you when you read it?
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>>129455768
Goddamn, we're almost at the bump limit discussing the absolute state of this place. I'm not sure what was accomplished with this thread.

Anyway...

Are you a bad enough dude to listen to the top 20 Maggie songs?
>>129451526
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>>129458155
what about the 3 sserafim threads and the1 IVE thread? those are kpop.
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>>129458083
>>129458124
4chan is not, nor has it ever been, serious. I hate the k-popfags as much as the next guy but lets not kid ourselves here
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>inb4 thread bitching about the death of /mu/ gets 300+ replies
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>>129458157
No it's you who doesn't understand how it works. Simultaneous threads is two active kpop threads at once. In this case a duplicate is deleted by jannies. If a thread reaches bump limit it's gone, you have the full right to make a new one. In a better world a full general would've been immediately sent to an archive but it is what it is.
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>>129458175
i'm too lazy to do anything other than search "kpop" to make my point but i guess you're right
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>>129458179
That's where I was leaning. KPOP threads are overwhelming, but waifuists in general are a scapegoat that neglects a much bigger problem with this board. I'm not gonna repeat myself anymore than I have.
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>>129458180
we'd better start 3 more simultaneous threads. jannies have set the precedent that this is completely allowed. we can't get banned for following their lead
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>>129458186
>Simultaneous threads is two active kpop threads at once
3 sserafim threads
1 IVE thread
what are those?
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>>129458186
okay threads reached bump limit. sweet. a bump limit every hour
tell me, what kinds of miraculously quick discussions are happening in said threads for it to be considered anything other than spam?
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>>129458208
Look above. There's one ive thread, one lesserafim thread and one nmixx thread.
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>>129458214
so three simultaneous kpop threads? actually 4, cause kpop general
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thoughts?
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>>129458209
I dunno, shitposting I guess.
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>>129458217
no no you see the three kpop threads that focus on posting pictures of members of specific bands do not have any obligation to be merged into the kpop threads that focus on posting pictures in general so it's perfectly fine
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>>129458217
There's a metal thread and I've seen a Metallica thread somewhere. Your point? You can't have two kpop threads. If they make a new thread for every single group it would TECHNICALLY be within the rules and that's what I'm talking about. I'm not saying it's good or bad.
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I want a /kr/ on this website not out of hatred of Kpop threads but because I'm desperate to see anything new on the site, any sign of life other than captchas.
It's a natural fit really. Not just Kpop, but manhwa, dramas, webtoons. All more popular than ever. If anything, the lack of a board for that content just shows how disconnected from everything else this site has become. /mlp/ wouldn't have happened under the current administration.
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>>129458235
prove it. make a
>metallica thread
>megadeth thread
>slayer thread
>cannibal corpse thread
>morbid angel thread
>carcass thread
>born of osiris thread
post screenshots here of each thread. there's no way they'll get deleted and you banned.
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>>129458235
>Your point?
one metal thread can go
but 9 kpop threads have to go
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>>129458240
the kpop threads have been this way since 2011
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>>129458241
If I do that all at once sure, because it would be spam made all by me. These threads were born naturally and people stay in their containment threads.
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>>129458179
it was never serious but the contents of each post is getting more and more meaningless.
both in regards to information, content and entertainment it provides.

that is why no one can say "lurk more" anymore..
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>>129458260
>These threads were born naturally
i've got some wet fire to sell you
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the kpoptranny trash don't even listen to music. they shouldn't be allowed here. go in to any of those threads and try and find a single mention of music, you can't. it's creepy obsessed fat brown losers jerking their tiny dicks off together. why would anyone bother with this board when you have to share it with these cretins? remember when the bronies were spamming their faggot pony shit all over the place? it's the exact same situation, they even use the same arguments to justify their presence here. they finally got banished to a containment board and we never had to look at that trash ever again. it's long over due for the ktranny menace
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>>129458267
You're making a strawman and fighting it within your head honestly. It's regular autists.
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>>129458272
not true
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>>129458251
you are seriously so full of shit
you weren't even around back then
in these 2 months of 2026 alone there were almost as many kpop *threads* as they were full blown *mentions* of kpop between 2012 and 2013
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>>129458180
We are all prisoners stuck in the same prison
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>entire thread complaining about kpop
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None of the killjoys ITT realize THEY are the problem. When “discussion” devolves into 95% shit talk, effortposters give up and all you’re left with are bots, gooners and trolls.
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>>129458336
fuck off to a porn site
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you just know the kpopfags dropped by during their refractory periods
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>>129458279
You are
>moving the goalposts
>not arguing in good faith
>basing your argument off of anecdotal "evidence"
>shifting blame
>whataboutism
See, I can talk like a faggot too.
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>>129457973
Because you are a newfag larping as an old head
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>>129458711
Obviously
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And if /mu/ is dead
What am I?
A SPECK OF LINT
ON THE PENIS OF AN ALIEN
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>>129458711
>>129459006
Oh, you mean bengalfuel. Don't care.
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>>129459225
You are exposed as a newfag pretending not to be lmao
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>muuu 10 threads

9 out of them have reached bump limit. there is no rule against that. if people post fast enough to have that many expired threads on the board, but only one is live, it's perfectly within the rules. yes, pic dumps are within the rules as well. yes, having separate theeads for genre and a certain group from that genre is also within the rules.

you wasted 300 posts for the above.
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>itt
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>>129459817
>>129459859
>seething
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>>129459861
ok. you just wasted 300 posts complaining about stuff that doesn't break the rules, just because you don't like the subject, but I am seething?
>>
The people who complain about waifus are all leftist vermin. Coincidence? Everyone knows all leftists are mentally ill. Are the complaints coming from fags and troons exclusively? It would explain so much.



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