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I am going to buy one as soon as they hit the market in early Novemeber. I hope I get the 1987 edition. It's fire.
Which one are you hoping to score?
You are going to be getting one right /p/?
You aren't gonna be a contrarian try hard no Charmera /p/haggot are you /p/? ISHYDDT
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>>4487570
Just ordered one for $20 dollarydoos. If it's shit it just becomes a cheap decoration piece which I'm honestly fine with
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I bought a six-pack to give to my family for Christmas. I'm keen. I'm debating whether I should give one to my Mum though because, on the one hand, she's going overseas next year but, on the other hand, she's utterly retarded with technology and she may not use it or find it awkward. She's also at that stage where she's basically blind to anything two feet in front of her face so I doubt she'd enjoy the experience of using it. I want to give one to my cousin instead. She's also going overseas and she's not a tech-illiterate boomer either but I would hate to make the rest of my extended family feel left out or whatever.
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>>4487763
The listing on Aliexpress claims it has autofocus. I think that is a lie but in case it does, I am intrigued to hear how well it works, since the real Charmera is fixed focus.
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>>4487990
tell me more about your mother
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>>4470128
i got the lil red nigga

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Wetplate Edition

Please post film photos, talk about film photography, film gear like cameras, film stocks, news, and tips/tricks in this thread.

Also talk about darkroom practices, enlargers, photo paper, techniques like dodging/burning, tools, and equipment related to enlarging, developing, and printing.

Thread Question: What alternative processes would you like to try?

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>>4487982
lovely pastel colors and very liminal space-like
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>>4487803
lol
>but even if we were off by 1000
yeah fully grasping how small atoms are can be difficult
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>>4488098
Ive done an experiment where I placed a 4x5 glass plate inside a 35mm only enlarger and was able to max out my enlarger height and still no grain. Only softness from optics/atmosphere/imprecise focusing was showing up.
The funny part is that wetplates typically look better when taken with a soft lens.
Using an ultra sharp modern lens can, unsuprisingly, make them look "too sharp" and kind of harsh in a way.
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alright bros im thinking about only taking a wide angle for my next trip, reckon i can get decent night shots in big cities with a 28mm 3.5 wide open w 400 iso, should be able to do 1/30?
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>>4483484
i like the zombie filmstock these lil niggas make

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and a worse form of it than vidya or movies?
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>>4474681
Its not that deep lil bro
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>>4485237
>our eye color is direclty related to our bheavior, to our intelligence
I love that any time I think I must have encountered the absolute dumbest manchild in the world, I can get on this board and within minutes one of you will prove me wrong.
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>>4474703
>great characters and stories
If that's what draws you to play video games you are severely retarded
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>>4485525
he whole fuckin world contributes less to math than the balkans. there's something in the fucking water over there. As the nobel comittee found one year, they've got irritable beet farmers solving world-stumping math problems for lulz. ...who did not want to be bothered about prizes of money that day lol
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>>4485649
>t. has never taken a good photo in his life
kys collector consumer fag

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"Merry Blobmas" Edition.
Previously:
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>>4488078
This is the only shot in your series that got my interest. The others were lacking something and I think this one encapsulates everything I would want from this style of photography. Good shot anon
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>>4487993
a picture worth showing on google when looking up "mountain photo"
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>>4487672

Some seriously cringe, questionably recent photos in this counterfeit "rpt".
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Last days of 2025 edition

All video related questions and discussion is intended for this thread. Here we discuss techniques, gear and anything else related to capturing video footage. Please don't pretend to be an expert if you don't know what you're talking about. Kindly leave your ego at the door.
Posting short films/scripts or other work you've done is encouraged.
We tend to use and recommend DSLRs/mirrorless cameras because they provide phenomenal picture quality for their price, have large sensors (ie the same size used in high-end cinema cameras and higher) and have interchangeable lenses.
In contrast, consumer camcorders often have much smaller sensors and a fixed lens.

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>>4488102
here's one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/165033287230?_skw=bell+howell+filmo&itmmeta=01KCCZES1NY26BPWAD82TZCGAC&hash=item266cc01e3e:g:vBQAAOSwyUZhI-6E&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA0FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1cxawU3naEluJr%2FD7p2sdpfUBEQwDZFgVeEY80tEFohxHepSqgtc%2FlbwnWfrEFKrcLosgOUOy1U%2Fc3cjO2rwQ7%2B0gsGqxP5FngPG3DXF2eVpABsdRKDeCJduZXjhYs7v0WnElSCni8YZMhannbGOAtIbaYAKnDsRkCB1r3wuyTq08nm%2B7vfy5wtbi0WSmBLc7FIhaQJWaaE36E0QrTjS%2FGt7YiDPbQgDaypBYHza%2FUe55bKQYpk1Pd1I4MNzQduOXU%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4CRu5_jZg

That one is filthy but you can see in the pics how loading works. It takes under a second bc the film comes pre-loaded in that black magazine, so you pop the rear door open, slide it in, burn through it, check the window on the side to see ftg remaining, and when you've used it up, in broad daylight pop the back door open, yank the mag out and slide another one in with more film. You send the entire mag off to FPP and they develop, scan and reload for the next customer. The BIG thing that makes these cameras (which were originally made as premium $$$$ home movie cameras) the prime choice for crash cams in real productions is that it has B&H's awesome mechanism, w/ an internal clock movement and brake to keep the film rate constant as the spring winds down, so your footage always plays back at a steady speed. It just runs at whatever (and I mean whatever) frame rate you set it to, for about 20secs, & then BAM, firm stop. It's unique among old cameras, and the mechanism that built that company, starting with the big hollywood cameras, & then they shrunk it down to these 16mm cameras and just kept making them for about 50 years, w all the parts interchangable from the 1920s to the late 1970s/80 model, because it's pretty much perfect, never needs maintenance, just works.
I could go on, bc I've been impressed as hell with these little things as minimalist film capture devices.
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>>4488102
https://www.ebay.com/itm/135460898208?_

We also have one of these, a three-lens turret on it, but never really used it. All these take standard C-mount lenses so you can play around with lenses and mounts. If you're going to shoot on a tripod, you might as well have your wide narrow & long lenses on the turret.

However, there's not much difference in price between a camera with a lens and one without, so you might as well get one with lens for no other reason than to get the viewfinder (the smaller lens you actually look through up & off to the side).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/287004873411?_

But we bought some little C-Mount to F-Mount adapter, and put the insanely sharp Nikkor 50mm Micro lens on it, one of the absolute sharpest lenses ever made, and the 16mm film is using the absolute sharpest center of that glass. I think we got the Nikkor lenses for about $75 ea, and the adapters for $20.

Terantino used them as crash cams in car chases & whatnot, so I thought I'd try them, and they're my favorite cameras ever. You can buy one so old & neglected it's siezed, and it'll just be old sticky grease gumming it up. Pull the face off it with four screws, drop some oil on the exposed gears and it'll work its way free in no time and start running smooth as butta.
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>>4488119
lol wide normal & long, not wide narrow & long
Dev&Scan cost combined was about $50/roll.
I haven't tried the big shop in Denver yet but have heard enough good things they're next, just to spread the business around a bitand support both.
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>>4488116
>>4488119

You can get those cameras for under $50 + taxes and shipping.

What’s the catch?
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There isn't one, they were extremely nice (and expensive as hell) back when they were on the market, bc they don't do a million things, they just do the essentials and do them very very reliably. They also have an actual claw, doing a proper serpantine motion, unlike most compact movie cameras which typically just cheap out and use a gear to yank the film along. They have a 4 position shutter button for run, run (lock), + you can nudge it upward to take a still, either for stop motion animation or whatever.

They're priced low bc before FPP reintroduced 16mm magazines, you couldn't get mag film at all, which made all the compact cams worthless. ...I've picked up a half dozen expired kodachrome magazines just to get the empty mags, and am loading my own now from a big 400' roll to save more $ on my next project.

The rounded model of the Filmo is the nicest to hold, though I'm not a fan of handheld. The boxy later version with the chrome plates on the back are available in gray and black, and both of those have a nice ratcheting winder. They have different front face & lens arrangements. The double turret is handy but still flat & small enough to pack small, though the pull rod in the center was in the way of our big Nikkor lens. The 3-lens turret is nice but is big & clunky to carry. The single lens face comes kitted with a very sharp 20mm lens (equivalent to a 40mm angle of view on 35/FF).

There is also an EE model to avoid, it's got electronic metering & auto exposure tacked on, which worked great when film ISO's were much slower, but are practically useless today. Skip the EE models.

If you really want to geek out, Angenioux made a reflex zoom lens assembly for them. I tried a couple, they're pretty interesting, but they're in high enough demand they sell for a few hundred, and of course a prime lens will give you much sharper image than an old zoom.

They're so cheap you can just get a few just to play with em.

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Should i get a Sony zv-e 10 II new or a Lumix S II.

My goal is 4k 30fps with the highest dynamic range possible, 10bit log and fast sensor readout speed (low jellow)
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>>4481589
chat is this real?
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>>4481441
name?
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>>4481494
>only ever one example posted and it was by a known idiot
Lol, every time.
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>>4481494
>the image that destroyed /p/
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>>4485905
ehhh... sure why not.

I like the little goblin that crawled out her butt to help pull her clothes off. I'm so glad we're all going to gamble our entire economy and energy industry so Ai can replace everything and everyone as quickly as possible. Finally we can all sit in our little cardboard boxes looking at 6.5-fingered cartoon boobgirls.

I feel like they're a powerful tool in a photograph.
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>>4488088
>I feel like they're a powerful tool in a photograph.
I agree. I'd hand moop one of those to hold if I were shooting his portrait.
Those products have political comic charm.
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I'm suddenly imagining a generic product shot, where the item is resting in the center while surrounded by a gratuitous amount of colored lights with a pointlessly extravagant background. Then you could shoehorn some slogan that pertains to being plain and functional while surrounded by outlandish attempts to stand out.
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>>4488103
Generic products are distilled kino, especially the Plain Wrap line

poverty porn photographers destroyed in one scene
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>>4481623
One or two % of acetic acid is enough if you do not reuse stop. So 2 parts of 5-10% white vinegar and 8 parts of water. Less water if you save the stop for next time. Few % citric acid also works, and does not stink like vinegar. About 30g / liter or oz per quart or whatever. Molds can grow in dilute citric acid so better not store it...
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>>4481645
The vinegar stink is what etched the darkroom into my memory from high school, highly recommended
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>>4481623
Advantage of acidic stop is it stops developing immediately (which matters if using fact acting develoer) and it keeps fixer PH down if you reuse it.
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>>4480501
based
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any other tv shows with photography as a prominent plot device?

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>literally no digital camera not even the state of the art 2025 cameras can surpass LF kodachrome
How? isnt technology supposed to get better with time?
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>>4488038
sometimes zero photo is better, just see the RPT
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>>4488038
False.

>>4488062
Correct.
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>>4488062
Fake and gay
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>>4487924
>who can produce the nicest photo
>nicest
>you know, that certain "thingness" all photos have, that makes them... "nice" or not.
>argument relies on undefined subjective fluffword

Yep, there's your problem.
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Only ai can do it

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Thread theme: https://youtu.be/QR75ti4mN_A?si=N-UtB79FhGkJOuBO
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Does anyone use GIMP for photo editing and manipulation? Has it become a "photographer's program" yet, or is it still clunky and freetarded?
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>>4481367
What is this? Somekind of edge detection algo run on a high entropy image? ig a splash of water or just the surface of turbulent water, i am probably wrong.
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>>4487887
Nta. Looks like one of the inbuilt G'MIC effects you can apply in GIMP (and other GNOOO software). They're mostly memes but you can get some neat effects.
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At this point Lightroom/PS combo is the only thing stopping me from ditching Windows. I'd love to see an actually good alternative that does everything those two apps do, but there isn't one.
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I use Darktable for editing jpg:s also.
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>>4488079
It's a good tool overall, but it can't do compositing and layering well or at all. For my product photography, I need both.

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What is the future of photography /p
If you were starting today what would you buy?
Will stand alone cameras start needing more technological integrated features?
Will cameras push harder for realism and imbedded certificates to show its a real photo or will cameras start integrating inbuilt editing features to add in skies on blown photos etc?
Will standalone cameras start adding features to make short form video?
I’m just worried buying today the world of photography is about to go through its most drastic change in its entire existence and this will occur over the next 10 years
Thoughts?
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>>4487857
Well, AI has to eliminate noise, aberrations and fuzz and then generate the perfect photo from what's left with plausible detail that is not in original to make the result look natural. I don't think current models can do that yet. But I'm no expert in AI or using AI.
But I do think graphic designers are already truly screwed.
The left one is part of my own filtered photo of turbulent water. I asked Grok to "find 24 shapes from this image which could be good logo of startup but different from any existing logo and draw them as lineart in 4x6 grid" (sic)
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>>4488049
>getting paid to generate a bunch of random shapes is a doomed career path
Well yes, but actually no.
The good graphic designers are still going to completely BTFO any AI generated shit smear because AI is only good at identifying, repeating and feeding into patterns.
A top-shelf graphic designer will still find work for the businesses that want to disassociate with AI. Genuinely good design is still the hallmark of a human mind (for now) and it's very obvious when genuine thought and talent went into a graphic.

It's just the semi-unemployed post-grads that are fucked, and rightly so.
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>>4488055
I do not disagree. I've asked AI find most "important" or shapes from abstract turbulence and what it finds simply is not at all what human brain would pick up.
AI can generate unlimited boring slop but AI also is already very good doing generic busywork and management. Top-self creative people will keep their jobs but there are not that many of those.
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future of photo is literally AI, but this cumslurping board is too dumb to get that. we should be having AI photo threads
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>>4488049
are those fuji worms?

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In order to achieve this kind of black does it got to be underexposed or overexposed? and how many stops?

Point the light meter at the subject or at the empty space?

thanks in advance
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>>4487994
Under expose and crush them blacks.

If you mean the slight matte effect caused by this image actually being just a shitty product photo of the cover: Lift the black point in post a little.
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>>4488000
Checked, based and redpilled
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>>4488017
>wild shit about hollow moon conspiracies
Moon being hollow is considered a fact nowadays, shove it Moshe you will not poison this thread
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>>4488039
>the degens on 4chin say the moon is made of cheddar so it must be troo
Nice self report schizo.
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Welcome to /m43/general!

m43 sisters, we are known to be adventurers at heart. While Wormfags and Snoybois debate mtf charts and x-trans rights, we go out and explore the world around us. Capturing its beauty within m43's infinite depth of field.

In this edition: I am back to m43. I've sold my huge bulky Nikon Zf after realizing that I'm way too feminine to lug around such a huge piece of Japanese technology and I got meself a brand new OM5 Mk. II.

I also got a GX9 to live out my closeted homesexual street photography urges. Picrelated is my sane financial choices in one picture. Enjoy!

A list of m43 youtubers you should totally watch if you hate yourself:

Landscape (leaves and rocks):
Guido v. (OM1) - https://www.youtube.com/@GuidoVanDeWater
Henry Turner (OM5) - https://www.youtube.com/@HenryTurnerphoto
Waterfall Joe (OM1) - https://www.youtube.com/@WaterfallJoe/videos
Ian Worth (OM1) - https://www.youtube.com/@ian_worth/videos

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I'm thinking about getting a proper bag. Would the Think Tank Mirrorless Mover 20 v2 be alright?
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>>4487940
My advice? Consider a proper camera first.
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>>4487940
That's a nice shot, I love the colors and textures.
I hate shoulder bags so I can't comment. Just make sure it's not too small for your gear and also not way too big, and keeps what you need accessible.
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>>4487576

Post your work faggot
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>>4487948
I never had a shoulder bag myself. But I know that any photo backpack I never really use because it's a hassle to put it down, open it, take gear, put it again up
and those gen-z sling bag manpurses I can't stand (also I'm too fat so it would look funny anyways I guess)

Which do you think is more useful for Architecture photography - a Panoramic tripod head? Or A Tilt Shift lens?
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>>4484919
i forgot about that. im acurakly using mamiya 645 macro lenses on mine.

https://www.captureintegration.com/cambo-actus-lens-compatibility-table/
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>>4480961
I shoot arch. I mostly use the tilt-shit when shooting things that are going to need to be tiled, like a huge vertical panel in an atrium yesterday I couldn't shoot any other way. If I have to stitch images together, they're getting shot on the TS. It eliminates the risk of time wasted dicking around with failed pano merges and other artifacts of trying to do it in post.

Most things you can correct in-camera, you should. Just shoot it right the first time.
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>>4477091
What's a parallax?
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>>4477071
You can get ones with a ball and a fluid. These are ideal imo, they cover almost everything including video.
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Noobie photographer here, what is a panoramic tripod head?

Does it have angle locking, because it seems like the thing in the OP does, and I'm considering that for what I say in >>4486909


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