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I support open borders for Ukraine.
Stop acting like bigots hohols.
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enjoy the bread and remember to be antisemitic every day!
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>we didn't need africa anyway
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>>476147204
Yes, Russians will surely leave Africa because of losing a couple of platoons in an ambush. Epic peremogaposting.
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>>476147204
>we didn't need donbass anyway
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thanks for the blessed bread, you're not bad for a Mutt, blessings upon you and those you care about.
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>>476147518
They're really struggling for peremogas today
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>>476146979
>https://files.catbox.moe/doi1mr.mp4
>fucking up their own guys with over pressure
just nato things
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>>476147518
>Yes, Russians will surely leave Africa
Correct, they are royally fucked without prigozhin
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>>476147847
Nutriding pringles is an interesting look, good luck with that.
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>>476147847
When is Ukraine coming back from their African vacation to defend their strategic logistics base? The world looks at these headline and feels embarrassed for you.
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FUCKING KEK!
Every single Ukraine shill has be retasked to promoting Kumstain Harris!
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>>476148029
>Can you tell us Russia's win conditions?

well, lets see
removal of pro-western Kyiv "junta"
total demilitarisation of Ukraine
total denazification of Ukraine (whatever that means)
no enlagement of nato
protection of eastern Ukrainian "russians" from war

those the ones officially stated at the begining of the war

I would assume "retaking Kherson, the city we legally consider part of russia" would also be a part of it
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GreetingZ
>TTD (Total Troon Death)
>TRV (Total Russian Victory)
>Talmud denounced
Russia must gain control on the west and clean it from liberal parasites
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>>476148584
yeah, I mean russia is obviously losing now
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memba folks, according to chug, russia "wins" even if it fails to re-take "forever russian" city of kherson
yes. chug has this much trust in russia's ability to win
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>>476148743
well if they dont meet any goals they had officially or semiofficialy stated at the begining, then how is that a win?
if war ends today, will they declare that this was all they wanted, and it's a win worth those 500k casaulties ?
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>>476148762
>if you take your enemy's territories, they win

I see that toilet cleaners just adopted the nato standard Trudeau military doctrine
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>>476148535
>Comrades we took another farmfield after a decade of fighting)))))))
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>>476148762
Why are they digging new trenches in Xherson if the Russians will never get there?
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>>476148762
Kherson would obviously be a part of any negotiated peace agreement
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>>476148972
>>if you take your enemy's territories, they win

remember how USA won in Afghanistan after they took all the cities and bigger villages? a huge win, that one was
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>>476149081
so if russia doesnt take Kherson, you will admit they lost?
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Ukraine invented the first pizza in Aratta (Ukraine) 15,000 years ago. Taras the Tasty was a proto-Ukrainian born in the thick reeds of the Pontic-Caspian steppe. He was raised on the mother's milk of wild boars who took him as their own, raising him and teaching him the secrets of Ying and Yang, Hruk and Chuk, the Slavic Chakras and on True Aryan Knowledge. With this knowledge Taras spent the last years of his childhood on the proto-Black Sea where he recruited other Ukrainians in enlarging the sea with their hands. Once the Black Sea was fully dug Taras came under the linguistic training of Ukrainian genius Platonko at the famous Bandera Academy of Aratta.

Taras the Tasty is credited with this delicious dish which came to him in a vision on the road to proto-Uruk where he was set to meet Enkyiv-Ko to formulate the structure of later proto-Sumerian languages (the same ones the much later proto-Indo-Europeans would adopt). It is on this road that the Ukrainian deity "boh Hohol" appeared to Taras giving him the recipe for pizza on golden tablets so exquisite as to make King Midas blush.

Upon the completion of his foundational linguistic work in proto-Uruk and upon his return to ancient Kyiv, Taras consulted the golden tablets and baked what we now was the world's first "pizza" -- only then it was called "pizda." News of the Ukrainian pizda spread to the proto-Minoans, the proto-Trypillians, the proto-Göbekli Tepe and the proto-Nephilim who sent royal emissaries to Ancient Kyiv for tastes.

This was confirmed in the oldest Rigvedas, the proto-Code of Ur-Nammu and by Hitler's archaeologists who unearthed a giant proto-pizda in Kyiv which bore a Ukrainian trident made of salo. Dr. Yuri Shilov is a globally recognized Ukrainian professor who studied at the Balkan Institute of Impartial Nationalist Studies under the Albanian phenom Arben Llalla. Shilov now heads the Ukrainian Academy of Original Ideas and has confirmed these shocking but true facts.
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>>476148762
>russia must achieve all goals to win
>ukraine can win despite achieving no goals at all
This sounds like the Finnish interpretation of the winter war.
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henlo, i have been sent by putin to destroy every last shill and ukrainian
>picrel, it's me
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>>476149262
you asked what were russia's conditions to win
I told you what were the stated goals of the war
so far it seems none is going to be met

so the question goes back to you- what are russia's winning conditions, according to you?
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>>476148960
>and it's a win worth those 500k casaulties ?
Is losing 1/5 of your country worth like 1 million+ hohols? They could've taken a peace deal and lost nothing except NATO membership which they will never have anyway.
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>>476149123
yeah it's totally gonna be the same this time around buddy, russians will just pack up and leave with hohols clinging on their planes
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>476148762
Yes it does win even if it signs the evacuated Kherson away after taking everything east of the dniepr in Lugansk, Donetsk and Kherson. This includes the territories in Donetsk that Russia is advancing into currently, not just current borders. A shittier victory but a victory nonetheless, especially if it's after a change of government in Ukraine and a demilitarized zone. But let me tell you something, Russia will take the entirety of Kherson too. The worst case scenario won't happen. You can screencap me saying this.

Russia will take Kherson.
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Russia will win
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>>476149456
>so far it seems none is going to be met
What are Ukraine's win conditions?
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>>476149705
1991 borders.
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>shittier victory but a victory nonetheless, especially if it's after a change of government in Ukraine and a demilitarized zone.
>But let me tell you something, Russia will take the entirety of Kherson too. The worst case scenario won't happen
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>all of a sudden people cares about Venezuela
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>>476149362
Good luck
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>>476149505
>russians will just pack up and leave

I am old enough to remember when they did just that, in Poland, Czechoslovakia, Baltics
I've seen it on live tv

>>476149543
>Yes it does win even if it signs the evacuated Kherson away

so russia will have to cede to Ukraine a city that it by law considers a part of russian federation
and this will be still a win
let me tell you, losing a city of this size to enemy, and still considering it a win, is a low bar

Can't help but notice tho, you consider that to win, Ukraine would have to re-take Crimea. Is that not right? why such double standards in expectations?

>You can screencap me saying this.
>Russia will take Kherson.

of course I will take screenshot of that
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>>476149845
>look at this shizoid telegram post, this is pure proof that hohols are winning

purely psychologically, your dad did not die
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>>476150125
I remember telegrams saying the same thing for Kherson, and they were right. Crimea is now becoming an economic liability for monke
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>>476146884
Enki?
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>>476150207
Is true. Plywood general is now cardboard general.
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>>476150079
then you're an asshurt boomer retard who spend 8 hours a day shilling.
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>>476149705
>What are Ukraine's win conditions?

I asked first
I also told you russia's winning conditions when asked
a bit rude of you to avoid answering like that
so what are those winning conditions of russia, according to you?

>>476149472
>Is losing 1/5 of your country worth like 1 million+ hohols
dont you mean 6 millions?
anyways knowing russia they might have killed even more Ukrainians, had Ukraine surrender
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>>476150079
>Is that not right? why such double standards in expectations?
Because the Ukrainian government and the governments who supported it went on several highly publicized opportunities to speak about how they would reclaim Crimea and how important it was that Ukraine loses no territory. You guys were shockingly specific. No negotiations with Russia and all of that. Russia wants Kherson, true, but it didn't start speaking about how it psychologically still controlled Kherson when it lost it.

Now tell us, What are Ukraine's win conditions?
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>>476149362
Hello, nice to meet you.
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>>476150207
the real economic liability is your jewish pighole financed by my taxes
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>>476150494
If we're to determine who is winning, surely we need to look at the goals of both sides?
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>>476150549
You don't even pay taxes pajeet
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>>476149123
The US never controlled Afghanistan and it’s territory, they just controlled certain checkpoints, transit points, bases and urban centers including the central government which had next to zero influence as locals saw their loyalties with local leaders and tribesmen and not the globohomo central government.

US had no control over the rural areas of Afghanistan which was the vast majority of territory of Afghanistan and this played a big role in the sudden collapse of Afghanistan when the US withdrew and power shifted back to overt total Taliban control because it was already under effective Taliban control anyway, for all intents and purposes. The whole operation was a disaster and the only honest day was the day the US withdrew.
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>>476150460
I get paid to watch monitors all day and do nothing untill there's something red on them

I might as well shitpost in the meantime
dont get butthurt because you are starting to realize that in any scenario where russia "wins", the "win" itself is very embarassing comapred to initial goals, and this is what even chuggers admit
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Even the Japanese can see Chasiv Yar is falling. Washington DC will have to do two more terrorisms and one coup to make up for his dishonor.
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>>476150694
yep, which is why the afghan govt collapsed overnight like it was held up with cardboard.
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>I lost my legs but Russia lost because they failed to take my hand

We are winning NAFO sisters 2 more years and Russia finally collapses
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do you guys remember the last time there was some freak here that posted all day long every single day?
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>>476150802
you're trying to justify being an obsessed retard repeating nafo talking points all day. Go download some iphone game or something.
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are we chinese yet are there trains now?
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>>476150907
I would give three limbs to have a disability check that doesn't even cover the new Jewish overlords rent increases.
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>>476151144
China #1
Death to America
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>>476150516
>but it didn't start speaking about how it psychologically still controlled Kherson when it lost it.


at the begining of the war, russias stated goals were, among other things: removal of kyiv "junta" (read: return to a pro-russian government), demilitiarisation of Ukraine, denazification of Ukraine (open to interpretation, most likely killing off anyone that russia doesnt like)

While russia never stated that they will never give up Kherson, I believe that making it legally part of russian federation kinda implies that they considered it already "won"

>>476150516
>Now tell us, What are Ukraine's win conditions?
why? you had already asked me if I think Ukraine will retake Crimea. Lets go with that, then


>>476150560
>If we're to determine who is winning, surely we need to look at the goals of both sides?


sure, lets start with you telling what are russia's winning conditions according to you
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>>476150694
umm sorry but you are implying that controlling clay is not equal with winning
not sure this is allowed in chug
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>>476151036
We already have a freak here right now posting the same thing every day only not a janny who bans anyone slightly off topic
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>>476151360
So Ukraine's goals are 1991 borders according to helpful US anon, would you say that's correct?
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>>476151076
>you're trying to justify being an obsessed
lmao I havent been on 4chan in months, I am here only because my regular IB where I shitpos, has fallen off the bike 2 days ago and still is not up
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>>476151622
>still declining to say what are the goals for russia to win

why? are you afraid russia might *gasp* not win in the end
but you are sure it is winning!
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>476151360
Alright anon, thanks for clarifying that if NATO backed Ukraine(as per your own admission) fails to take Crimea then it loses. Would be weird if weak and pathetic Russia made NATO lose, but what do I know? Clearly NATO's interests will be upheld and Crimea will be Ukrainian. Thank you kindly!
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https://web.archive.org/web/20240703235819/https://basedjakwiki.net/Pepe#Steganography_datamining_strips
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>>476149869
It's because vuvuzuelans are kvetching pretty much everywhere they crawled into the entire continent.
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>>476150494
At minimum all of Donetsk and Luhansk. As that was the original demands at the start of the war. But obviously most people wouldn’t consider that a win. So everything east of the river in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson as a more realistic minimum claim.

I suspect most pro Russians would be pissed at that so I’d say everything east of the Dniper for a solid win.
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>>476151781
I haven't stated an opinion about who is winning.
I'm asking based on your assessment of stated goals from both sides who is winning.
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>>476147518
>>476147576
Ukranda is an African nation apparantly so yes it is infact a big deal that Wagner is active in Mali
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>>476151874
The jew fears the rebellious vevuzela.
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>>476151465
I’m implying the US never controlled the territory of Afghanistan. Only 25% of Afghanistan's people live in urban centers, the rest live in rural areas and those rural areas constitute 97% of the geographic space of Afghanistan, which the US didn’t/couldn’t control politically or overtly. Some influence here and there but not control.
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>>476151833
>Would be weird if weak and pathetic Russia made NATO lose

we had this discussion before, you already forgot?
NATO forces are not fighting in this war
even russian propagandists are not claiming that
you claim at least 10k NATO troops in active fight, yet there's no hundreds of POWs, or casaulties that would certainly happen by now

NATO provides some weapons to Ukraine (sadly not as much as they could), some training and some intel

one of NATO's interest is as many dead russians as possible, and as much of ex-soviet pile of pew-pew used up
and this goal is being achieved perfectly
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>>476150207
Maybe Ukraine can default on more debt to stick it to putler.
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The real blackpill is that the UN shill is right.
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>>476151874
Maybe they should have stayed in Venezuela to vote against him rather than running away to seethe when he inevitably was elected by all his supporters who refused to leave.
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>>476152005
>I haven't stated an opinion about who is winning.

ok so yuo dont think russia is winning, got it
what is your opinion on russia's conditions to win? and if yuo refuse to answer, at least say why
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>>476152345
Stop trying you're not fooling anyone. You know what? Answer the following:
>Will Ukraine win and reclaim Crimea?
>Does NATO want Ukraine to win?
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>>476152296
Ukraine will be bailed out by the wect and BRICS, whereas poccnr will have to spread its anus to chinks and become Cambodia with snow
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>>476152480
At this point I don't know what to believe, the whole hope of winning this war rests on Ukrainians running out of bodies without Russia running out of money first.
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>>476151874
I genuinely have a question
assuming maduro is toppled
who's the replacement?
I bet it's gonna be a globohomo government
thing might improve in venezuela by, idk, like 5% max?
idk I'm asking since I've just started following
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>>476152468
Taking the 4 regions that constitute an estimated 80% of Ukraine's natural resources is a pretty big victory. You can come about it if you want but there is a specific reason zelensky doesn't want to lose these areas. The country will have nothing left. The fuck industry does it still have?
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>>476152484
>Expecting jew bankers to bail you out
Lmao
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>>476152633
>who's the replacement?
They have a female carbon copy of Javier Milei that claims to be a libertarian free market person.
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>>476152590
Simple yes or no will suffice:
>Will Ukraine win and reclaim Crimea?
>Does NATO want Ukraine to win?
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>>476152633
im pretty sure the current guy isnt that good but the other option is a US plant. its pretty much like an american election except with higher stakes for the citizens
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>>476152736
The vatnik is really afraid Ukraine is going to become a first world and prosperous like the rest of east europe after they joined the western block
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>>476152802
>Will Ukraine win and reclaim Crimea?
Most likely not and if at all then not directly by military means.
>Does NATO want Ukraine to win?
Yes.
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>>476152240
For example, before the U.S. withdrew US forces and Afghanistan’s US-backed central government controlled less than 20% (likely substantially much less) of the territory of Afghanistan down from a peak of about 30%. Taliban controlled the rest.
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>>476152878
Kek. You have better chance of falling into a civil war as the kike refuses to relinquish power and the bankers come for you.
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Let's be honest this general is 3 years of pure cope about a war that shouldn't have happened, it's costly as fuck and no results to show for it so far.
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>Will Ukraine win and reclaim Crimea?
>Does NATO want Ukraine to win?
It's afraid
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>>476152781
yeah I've seen her
maria
>>476152823
>im pretty sure the current guy isnt that good
sure I might be inclined to believe that, but afaik they're sanctioned hard by the US
either way i fee like they're at fault here for not diversifying their industry and trade
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>>476152661
>Taking the 4 regions that constitute an estimated 80% of Ukraine's natural resources is a pretty big victory.

It's also pretty far from the original goals of the war, and something that was mostly achieved in 2014 anyways, before the 500k casaulties and depletion of ex-soviet stocks of tanks and armored vehicles

> You can come about it if you want but there is a specific reason zelensky doesn't want to lose these areas

lel no country wants to lose any of its areas
chinks and pajeets keep fighting over some barren wasteland in mountains
chinks and kacaps used to fight over some small, uninhabited island on a river, while both have more clay than idea what to do with it
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boring war
when is putin going to use nukes or chemical weapons?
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new battle image in
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>>476152212
They dont
>>476152364
Back when the burgers put a glownigger puppet (noriega) in charge of the country through a helicopter crash (they killed el general) most people stay here, even the wealthy people stay. We were all in this together and we fought against the glownigger puppet. Many people died but we continued to fight.
Then the burgers saw how that didn't break us and bombed most of the country's police stations and civilian targets to try to break us but that also failed because we continued to fight.
Vuvuzuelans fled their land by the millions at the first sign of a bad day. They deserve all the shit they get.
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>>476153070
It wasn't far from the original goal? The fuck are you on? They wanted the Russian areas and land bridge to crimea. They GOT the land bridge and Russian areas. Now they are in for more areas.
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>>476152802
>>Will Ukraine win and reclaim Crimea?

if russia's basic win condition is losing it's city Kherson, then Ukraine's basic win condition is keeping Kherson
no need for Crimea to "win"
according to your rules at least
simple as
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>>476152468
>and if yuo refuse to answer, at least say why
I don't have any opinion about what Russia's stated goals are, and even if I did it wouldn't matter to who you think is winning.

Based on the two sides stated goals, who is winning?
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>either way i fee like they're at fault here for not diversifying their industry and trade
They tried to do it, and they got scammed by yellow kikes, the same thing that is happening to puccians right now
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>>476152586
Ukraine has no future or atleast none under US/judaic control. It’s sad the Ukrainians can’t see this before they are all gone
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>>476152633
Maduro is globohomo, controlled opposition.
Most important buyer of vuvuzuelan oil is jewsa.
For as much shit maduro speaks about the gringos he is sucking burger cock behind everybody's back but everybody can hear the slurping.
Vuvuzuela is fucked regardless because vuvuzuelans are not worth a shit to begin with.
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Everyone that supported Ukraine is exercised about Venezuela. The same people that supported the destabilization of Syria.
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>>476153234
they wanted to have a pro-russian govt in Kyiv back
they wanted to enforce demilitarisation of Ukraine
and denazification as well
and no NATO expansion
but you are right, land bridge to Crimea was one of goals too
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>17 posts by this ID hohol rapefugee sperging out this late at night
oh my days
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>>476153427
That will be a bonus. Ukraine is in for decades upon decades of misery all these financial problems don't disappear in the end you will see upheaval. It's going to be catastrophic no matter whether Russia ends the conflict or not it's like a giant fucking jew elephant in the room and everybody sees it but ignores it
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>>476153333

well if you are afraid to state any opinion, not sure why you need mine, you dont seem to care
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>>476153384
i see
so he's only there to even soften the ground for a complete globohomo government that's backed by the normies
makes sense in a way
tho I am still a bit conflicted since he "supports the east"
idk I lack knowledge to speak, so i'll just read and listen
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>>476153649
You seem terribly afraid to say who is winning.
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>>476153659
They said the same about Lula.
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Gains!
>476153268
My mistake, losing the entire eastern part of their country is all Ukraine needs to do to win. After all, as long as they keep Kherson it doesn't matter that Russia now owns more than 1/5 of their country. But too late now pole, you already said that Crimea was the minimum requirement.
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>>476153440
>reply in civil discussion to posts that reply to me
>sperging
sad
sometimes I forget chug is only used to shitposting in circlejerk
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>>476153424
Hinkle is a weird third world loving faggot. It's a shame we have so many fucking weirdo commie fucks on the pro Russia side in the west.
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>>476153766
More gains
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>>476153739
Lula is a commie snake like Orban who will only side with the best bidder. He already told monke to not think about going to Brazil
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>>476153821
And one more round of gains. Some juicy ones today.
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>>476153739
again, idk my dude
i'll just watch from the sidelines for now
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>>476153818
It's best not to think too hard about leftists of any stripe, remember most of them only support Palestine because they think jews are white. If jews were overtly brown they wouldn't care.
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>>476153870
>Lula is a commie snake like Orban
The jokes write themselves.
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>>476153589
>That will be a bonus.

no, that were the goals
that were not met
500k casaulties for a land bridge to Crimea, wew lad
especailly since russia needed crimea mostly for its naval bases, which in this war were proven to be super vulnerable to Ukrainian land based anti-ship systems, and all the fleet had to be avacuated from there anywyas
so the naval base is in the end worthless
again, 500k casaulties for an empty, useless base
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>>476153766
>>476153821
>>476153821
>Start of offensive
>"Lol look at Russia only gaining a few km"
>Offensive still plowing through several defensive lines and taking towns
What a nice summer it's been.
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>>476153342
To me this is how he always looks. I appreciate his contributions towards 18k
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>>476153700
>You seem terribly afraid to say who is winning.
well you dont answer any of my questions
I wont answer yours
PS I had already said it in previous thread
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>>476146884
Damn, thank poleanon for linking this video https://youtu.be/w_bEpKBd07w
Just done watching, this is by far the best english speaking video about medieval russian history apart from Starmedia The Romanovs
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>>476146884
Putin is a huge faggot LMAO.
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>>476153766
>, losing the entire eastern part of their country is all Ukraine needs to do to win

why not?
if losing it's city is what russia needs to win, why not?
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>>476154120
So based on Ukraine's stated goals, you think they are winning? Can you elaborate?
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>>476154161
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you guys are still replying to a boomer polack with nothing better to do at 3AM who believes 500k russians have died, russia is going to lose in 2 weeks, russia wont retake kherson, and ukraine will win crimea
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>>476154036
It will get that goal. Do you think people are happy with the gover ment right now? They are locked in the country forced to fight and will probably have some massive problems to get that peace deal they need. The gover ment will collapse Russia will probably get control as rebellions spring up us will probably get nothing as any prace agreement will block them from NATO. You expect these fast gains which is such a zoomer mindset.uou probably won't find Ukraine on a map in the next 10 years. Screenshot this if you want for memory sake when it happens and you realize I was right that country is on the brink of ruin.
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>>476154320
I really enjoy his effortposts for a single line of text though.
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>>476153999
Checked it just sad when i find out I'm on the same side as commie rats.
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>>476154440
The shithole you are supporting is full of them also
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You heard it here first folks, losing a city is the same as losing more than 1/5 of your country. What a weird place the polish mind is.
>>476154068
That's what happens when you don't make a trailer for your military operation,.
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>>476153268
You know once they run out of males to kidnap or atleast take so many that the state itself stops functioning at even basic levels then the military will just fall apart and then Russia can make any demands they want.

I think it’s a certainty that all of Donetsk oblast will fall and I’m sure Ukraine will fight to defend the last cities in it as desperately as if it was Kiev itself so considering the lack of major military deliveries anymore and the 80% forced conscript army I think Ukraine will spend the last of its strength and basically keel over in regards to everything after that. They won’t surrender because they are just a US puppet and aren’t allowed to, but the fight will basically be over with only token resistance against further Russian advances.
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>>476154281
Yeah, this is correct. But how to do that actually? I have no idea honestly.
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>>476154320
It's fun, you don't get it, without people like him I'd never grow my collection. This is the same guy that will say he doesn't care about Ukraine winning and then goes on long text wall arguments trying to convince everyone about Ukrainian victory. Where else can you meet such a specimen? I should be paying to witness this.
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>>476154643
You won't do shit, but cry like krautcucks you were stabbed in the back, while chinks are fucking you
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>>476154382
>he thinks there will be a pro-russian government in Ukraine in the next 50 to 100 years

oh my sweet summer child
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does anyone have any vods of Jewish settlements in Ukraine?
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>>476154834
>He thinks the country will exist in 10 years
Enjoy your new neighbor soon. You are old friends
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>>476154834
You don't need pro-russian government in Ukraine, if there will be no ukraine
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>>476154564

if you can define losing a city as a part of winning, then the rules as to what is "win" are very flexible
how flexible, is up to anyones opinion

> will say he doesn't care about Ukraine winning
I dont

>and then goes on long text wall arguments trying to convince everyone about Ukrainian victory

arguing on internet is fun
is it not why you are here at 3 am, trying to convince me there are 10k or more NATO soldiers figthing in Ukraine?
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>>476154963
>Enjoy your new neighbor soon

China? well long overdue
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>>476149258
lmao that was good man. im dying
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>>476155328
What china going to take Germany? You'll have tons of old friends I guess?
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>>476155239
>how flexible, is up to anyones opinion
About that, is Ukraine winning anon?
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>>476154821
As a matter of fact I never supported putin's kleptocratic regime and actually a furry and neonazi. Yes, I am a russian neonazi with straight furry porn addiction, go figure that out.
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>>476154821
>china is collapsing economically
>china is buttfucking Russia and owns the nation
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>>476155328
Look, Poolack, I think you need some liberation too. How about you become a Polish SSR again
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>>476155493
China is China.
It's doing nothing and wins
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>>476155668
are you guys gonna seize taiwan this year?
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>>476155039
Looks like the more practical outcome. Ukraine as an independent nation is over for a number of reasons be they demographic, financial or social. They simply will not be able to function without constant support so absorbing them entirely or almost completely and allowing any that wish to leave the opportunity to do so will be the best outcome.
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>>476155842
Oh, I really hope so
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>>476155668
China doesn't have any Jews therefore it wins
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>>476149684
Second place
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>>476155493
A lot of problems chinks are facing will be solved once they take Siberia a la blackrock
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Don't worry, I'm not really arguing or anything, I'm just playing along to help you spread your message. Soon Ukraine will win and retake Crimea, just like you said. After all, your information and sources are truthful and accurate.
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>>476155861
It's an inevitability at this point zelensky will be the king of a ruined nation and will probably be killed by his own people. he already had to replace his entire personal guard for an assassination plot. There is no real recovery option and it will probably just be absorbed by Russia the west will keep those that fled because it doesn't seem to comprehend that refugees need to go back at some point.
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>>476155328
China and Poland have been friends since ancient times.
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>>476156031
But it has Jews

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_China
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>>476156317
I can picture Jews trying to blend in as a chinese named ching chong goldchang so they can spread feminism and faggotry. Funny image.
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>>476156317
Yeah like 0.002 percent
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>>476156555
Only takes 2% to ruin a nation.
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>>476146884
dead slavs means less white people so i suport both side
>>476144864
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>>476156454
They are universally hated, along with Brits for causing an opioid crisis here
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>>476156243
We waz kangs in ancient times
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>watch monitors all night to spot dirty toilet
>suddenly stop communications
Wonder where he went.
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>>476156650
Based on how they view the US as a Jew puppet nation they certainly seem to be aware of it at least.
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>>476156734
he'll keep posting his artificial news cycles until the sweat shop that employs him runs of out of funding
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>>476156799
Absolutely. Jews are the plague of the Earth
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>>476156799
anyone with a brain understands this
ZOG isnt just a buzzphrase
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>>476156160
>the west will keep those that fled
I'm not sure about that, at least in Europe they only ever talk about refugees going home if they are white, they only ever send illegals home if they are white also.
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>>476156951
Which is a better city to travel to shenzhen or hong kong
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>>476157346
they're like right next to each other
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>>476157346
Chengdu
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just a reminder, russia will get 90's again and this time 10x fold for the next 50 years+
enjoy your youth being fucked by chinks 0.05 rub a piece :D
are we still cocky?
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So according to memeflag, the country that's selling itself off to chinks can still penetrate NATO defenses in Chasov Yar.
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when i go to russia i'm going to act offended when russians don't smile
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>>476157732
>the country that's selling itself off to chinks
god i wish that was me
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>>476157855
Boy do I have good news for you
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>>476157855
Vatniks wish they were not, but not that their opinion matters
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>>476146884
>nafo puccia 3 days military operation zigger comrade gulaghomo gay sex
easiest $0.004 cents land on my bank account
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>>476153791
you already have a reputation, what did you expect, crackwhore?

here's advice:
don't want to be considered sperg?
next time start with that discussion and end with it, without sperging for hours before that
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Why do they bother bros.
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A lot of problems chinks are facing will be solved once they take Alaska
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>>476153342
thats all it has :(
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>476157726
Are all polacks this tetarded?
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>>476159618
Ya
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>>476157726
I can't wait until I see news reports of hordes of chinks invading over the Amur river.
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>>476159618
He's been making that same exact post for years
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>>476159531
Alaska is one the worst places on the planet to wage conventional war
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>>476160011
This is why no one will expect a Chinese invasion there. Perfect!
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>>476154320
>boomer polack
>speaking English
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Which of you shills are willing to denounce the Talmud and the Rabbincal councils?
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>>476160345
They won't do shit, just like in video games
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>>476160506
butthurt hohol diaspora, most likely
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UN memeflag is straight up endorsing Al Qaeda-IM, huh?
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>>476159789
funny, yuan in an official currency in 1/4 of russia right now
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>>476160011
for you
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>>476161611
>yuan in an official currency in 1/4 of russia
no, it isn't, retard
eat less nafo shit, it is bad for your health
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>>476159531
That's historically a Russian land
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>>476161841
we bought it fair and square
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>>476161936
Rented, not bought.
Time to pay back
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>zelensky has given the order that anti conscription protestors are to be executed on sight
and yet not a single peep out of the west about it
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>>476161841
>That's historically a Russian land
not really
we had it less time, than we hadn't
plus, we sold it, not lost it

you wouldn't want northern california either, if not to nuke it
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>>476161819
dumbass vatnigg, you're sold like a little bitch you are XDDDDDD

https://www.uawire.org/russia-faces-major-trade-disruption-as-chinese-banks-reject-yuan-payments
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>>476162026
Russia already has like 12 Alaskas in Siberia, they don't need any more Siberia
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>designated as a terrorist organization by the UN
It's yvir.
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>>476162195
Why not? They have a lot of agriculture, a lot of citruses.
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>>476162387
alaska has a crazy amount of natural resources that werent discovered until a few years after we bought it. it would be beneficial
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>>476162229
>ua wire
totally legit, not-a-hohol
>posts article that says they refused yuan payments
if it official why they refused?
didn't you just said it is official in 1/4 of russia?
or there is no correlation and your english and logic simply sucks, while you still post same post manually like a fag 2 years later?

nigger
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>stopped trading with China 9 days ago
>still beating NATO
How do ziggers do it?
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>>476147847
>memeflags
>image of Al Qaeda waving an Ukraine flag
Makes you think.
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>>476162747
And you don't think the same is true in Siberia?
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>>476162896
yes but more = better
also geopolitically speaking, we would be somewhat weaker without those resources
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>>476151874
>dirty sudacas get into other sudacas countries
So literally nothing changes.
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>>476163004
weaker how. extracting in arctic is pain in a ass and resources are dirt cheap
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>>476162870
2022
>russia is NIGGER
>russia is MUSLIM
>russia loves BROWN PEOPLE
2024
>OMG BASED NIGGER MUSLIM BROWN PEOPLE SAVING THE WHITE RACE KILLING RUSSIA FOR THE UKRAINE
weird
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>>476152633
The replacement would sell everything to Jewish companies are triple poverty just like Milei did in Argentina. They would also be a diehard ally of Israel and the Ukraine.
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>>476162870
Really makes you think.
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>>476163156
Al Qaeda is Mossad.
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>>476163152
we wouldnt have as vast reserves, also it would be a good staging point for invasion, especially if you let chinese ships dock there too
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>>476163282
doesnt change the fact natoids are cheering on nigger jihadis
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>>476157726
Poland would be on the same boat if it wasn't for the massive gibs from Germany, and the money coming from millions of toilet cleaners all across the EU.
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>>476163290
what is "good" about it, it is single road and mountains.
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>>476163440
Well they are all puppets of the same master.
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>>476163806
i just said, if you put naval bases there, it would be easier to invade the US
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>>476153333

>Spends entire thread failing to clarify the strategic goals of Russia
>"Based on the two sides stated goals"

Absolute waste of quads
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>>476164007
>memeflag
>1 post by this id
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>>476163973
You would have to overcome US naval power and a great deal of its air power for Alaska to be a useful invasion route.
Yukon and BC would not be easy terrain to pass through beyond Alaska
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>>476162896
More is better. Siberia is rich but that doesn't mean Russia shouldn't look for more.
As a matter of fact I firmly believe the ukrainian wars is for resources first and foremost. Just look at ukrainian natural gas, mineral, farm land and oil maps and compare to the currently russian occupied territories.
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>>476163973
how? if it is naval invasion chukotka is no different and more easy to supply. and no one will naval invasion usa anyway. mexico route is more feasible then alaska for this fantasy
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>>476157726
Just a reminder that the n-th partition of Poland is going to happen again.
Can your entire collective nation just read a fucking history book and realize already that the pendulum of history is always present, and it pays more to develop oneself than to lap at biggest bully in the neighborhood and bark away?
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>>476164584
none of that is worth the effort and expense - like most modern wars, this one is about security. It's easier to simply buy into resource exploitation - arranging economic access is safer, cheaper, and more predictable than fighting wars.
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>>476163440
It's pretty fucking funny desu - this is their only peremoga in months.
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>>476164826
Poccnr invading Ukraine was not about security concerns, but just an imperialist landgrab
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>>476164415
Invading through Alaska is retarded Mexico is the true route
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>>476164980
Me invading your mom was an imperialist landgrab.
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>>476164980
Jews is a reasonable security concern
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How long can they keep taking half a mile a day?
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>>476164980
It just looks that way to you because you've memed yourself retarded.
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>>476165343
Ask Julian
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>They couldn’t their asses with both hands in a brightly lit room. How to put it politely, they are imbeciles.
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>>476165343
2 more years.
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>>476165500
kek, saved
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>>476165730
How would comrades feel if syria and Venezuela betrayed monke and withdrew their recognition of crimea as part of poccnr?
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>>476159594
UN flaggot has to be one of the most retarded shills, right after hololina
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>>476166268
He still wont denounce the Talmud or the Rabbinical councils
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>25pbtid
kek.. that hohol hiding in Poland sure was mad.
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>>476166268
Hoholina is cute though.
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Just 2 more weeks till Syria and Venezuela betray Puccia and join NATO, trust memeflag's plan.
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>>476163235
>ukrainian muslim nazi jihadi defenders of white EVROPA
KEK
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>>476167090
He's starting to become like a sort of CEM, his shilling is just so persistent that it's becoming endearing
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>Odessian women are streaming a concert for their husbands and boyfriends, who are hiding from the military recruiters at home.
kek
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Da i know you would not take it very well
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>>476151036
I truly, and I mean this genuinely, do not understand. How fucking hard is it? Don't want to be hated? Don't be an annoying fucking faggot and spam a thread 24/7
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so a fucking tornado ripped through my town today, missed be by 0.5 miles.
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>>476167966
Forgot to say, this is the third close call this year :(
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>>476166983
Hoholina? Is that you? You know we love you, right?
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>>476167393
That's actually quite sweet, in a way
The best of luck to everyone avoiding the meatcatchers
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>>476167846
dude its their job
they dont come here for fun, they come here because they have to try to make the thread insufferable so people dont have actual discussion and instead argue with the same talking points every day
the tranny was definitely some mentally ill freak though, i think he just wanted to be edgy and ended up killing himself
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Do apparently Erdo dicking over Idlibistan and making Israel screech autistically this week means Syria is joining NAFO in 2 more weeks.
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>>476167576
How is this bad exactly?
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>>476168642
Trust the Plan
WWГ1WГA
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>>476168437
The professional shills aren't that obvious.
Trust me, I'm a professional shill researcher.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHBYwnTdbhg
one of the best interviews Scott has done in a while.
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>>476169907
I ignore anything that have word "collapse" in the title
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>>476168729
What do you think they will ask assad if he wants to join western civilization again?
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>>476164007
That post contains the blueprint for defeating Ukrainian shills but ok.
I'll defeat you with it too if you come at me faggot.
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>>476165730
Yet another CIA coup tho
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>>476168437
China #1
Death to America
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>>476170330
lmao you first tranny
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>>476170366
Stupid fat mutt can't stand that China can make a high speed rail!
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>>476170464
lmao stupid fat mutt won't ack himself or move to china
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>>476170464
go move to china faget go see how fun it really it is over there
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>>476170330
>>476170366
You both acting like retarded kids, get some help
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>>476170511
Seethe more about about China #1 steel production. US can't even steel anymore,
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BAKING
>BAKING
BAKING
>BAKING
BAKING
>BAKING
BAKING
>BAKING
BAKING
>BAKING
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>>476170578
You fake Chinese. True Chinese make China #1 in all threads. Make sure everyone know about high speed rail and steel production.
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>>476170598
>boron ridden scrap metal producer
lmao hasn't changed since Mao made a bunch of peasants mass produce worthless pig iron in backyard furnaces
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>>476170705
>>476170705
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>>476170705
NEW BREAD ALERT!!
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>>476170747
I'm not even Chinese, but I do live in China.
It's a fact, that China is better in almost everything, but you don't need to be annoying about it
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>>476170887
Yes, China #1, make best steel and high speed rails, US can't compete.
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>>476170861
i would not be posting broken bridges, retard
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>>476170057
have you looked at battle maps? collapse has been happening for few weeks at the very least
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>>476167393
That's cute, fuck dying for jews.
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>>476157726
enjoy your 30 years old post wall wife, divorce rape, alimony and child support. You people had been truly brainwashed by judeochristianism
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>>476146979
>>Helicopter Kino
>https://files.catbox.moe/ij53qs.mp4

Yay! Moar!
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>>476170084
Wtf is a western civilization and how is it relevant to arab countries?



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